Ducati Monster Forum

1. Winkleman - Salt River Canyon ... 278 miles
(http://www.bestdesignever.com/ducati/11-21-maps/1.gif) (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=S+Gilbert+Rd&daddr=2nd+St+to:33.813678,-110.46335+to:US-60+W&geocode=FVJ3_QEdfD5W-Q%3BFXpa9wEdGMpl-Q%3B%3BFbhw_QEdVG9X-Q&hl=en&mra=dme&mrcr=0&mrsp=2&sz=18&via=1,2&sll=33.813482,-110.463544&sspn=0.002986,0.003701&ie=UTF8&ll=33.275435,-111.025085&spn=1.538468,1.895142&z=9)

2. Salt River Canyon ... 239 miles
(http://www.bestdesignever.com/ducati/11-21-maps/2.gif) (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=S+Gilbert+Rd&daddr=33.813741,-110.463367+to:US-60+W&geocode=FVJ3_QEdfD5W-Q%3B%3BFQRw_QEdPsdW-Q&hl=en&mra=dme&mrcr=0&mrsp=1&sz=15&via=1&sll=33.818733,-110.458646&sspn=0.023746,0.029526&ie=UTF8&ll=33.559707,-111.049805&spn=1.524286,1.889648&z=9)

3. Winkleman loop ... 184 miles
(http://www.bestdesignever.com/ducati/11-21-maps/3.gif) (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=S+Gilbert+Rd&daddr=Ash+St%2FS+Willow+St+to:AZ-77+S+to:33.38616,-111.83876&geocode=FcCL_QEdkD5W-Q%3BFaaH_QEdDoRl-Q%3BFXpa9wEdGMpl-Q%3B&hl=en&mra=dme&mrcr=0&mrsp=3&sz=11&via=1,2&sll=33.359782,-111.694565&sspn=0.381957,0.473785&ie=UTF8&ll=33.213414,-111.192627&spn=1.530369,1.895142&z=9)

4. Salt River Canyon - Showlow - Payson ... 324 miles
(http://www.bestdesignever.com/ducati/11-21-maps/4.gif) (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=S+Gilbert+Rd&daddr=W+Deuce+of+Clubs+to:AZ-87+N%2FS+Beeline+Hwy+to:33.385013,-111.75499&geocode=FVJ3_QEdfD5W-Q%3BFRh3CgIdOJ9w-Q%3BFRb8CQIdOjhd-Q%3B&hl=en&mra=dme&mrcr=0&mrsp=3&sz=11&via=1,2&sll=33.422845,-111.754303&sspn=0.38168,0.473785&ie=UTF8&ll=33.45436,-111.099243&spn=3.052131,3.790283&z=8)

5. Prescot - Jerome - Payson ... 303 miles
(http://www.bestdesignever.com/ducati/11-21-maps/5.gif) (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=33.687782,-112.112732&daddr=AZ-89+N+to:Arizona+89A+N%2FPrescott-Jerome+Waterway%2FUS-89+Alt+N+to:AZ-87+N%2FS+Beeline+Hwy+to:US-60+W&geocode=%3BFVwqCQIdECRG-Q%3BFWYmEgId8ixR-Q%3BFRb8CQIdOjhd-Q%3BFQRw_QEdPsdW-Q&hl=en&mra=dme&mrcr=0&mrsp=0&sz=9&via=1,2,3&sll=33.646636,-111.706238&sspn=1.52275,1.895142&ie=UTF8&ll=33.632916,-111.719971&spn=3.045835,3.790283&z=8)

6. Mogollon Rim ... 232 miles
(http://www.bestdesignever.com/ducati/11-21-maps/6.gif) (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=S+Gilbert+Rd&daddr=33.495598,-111.62384+to:Rim+Rd+to:Rim+Rd+to:N+Ellsworth+Rd+to:US-60+W&geocode=FcCL_QEdkD5W-Q%3B%3BFeWbCwId6B9j-Q%3BFQWcCwId0R9j-Q%3BFUz__QEdxJ5Y-Q%3BFdxu_QEd2HlV-Q&hl=en&mra=dpe&mrcr=0&mrsp=1&sz=9&via=1,2,3,4&sll=33.662639,-111.456299&sspn=1.522467,1.895142&ie=UTF8&ll=33.742613,-111.29425&spn=1.52105,1.895142&t=p&z=9)

Michael - you do realize there is snow already in Summerhaven? (options 8 & 9)Brrr!

I thought this time of year "was when you guys loved living in Arizona"?  [roll]

I took the Summerhaven options off the poll. Maybe next year, then.

As for November, I think we're in good, non-freezing shape for the other routes. However, they're all going to be relatively cold (I mean, relative to normal Phoenix temperatures).

 [thumbsup]

Which route is the "devil's" [evil] HWY - I heard that's a blast to ride............

It's highway 666, which is now highway 191, from Springerville/Eager down to Safford/Thatcher.

Click here for a map (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=W+Main+St&daddr=S+1st+Ave&geocode=FXTWCAIdvG58-Q%3BFfD69AEdJP51-Q&hl=en&mra=dme&mrcr=0&mrsp=1&sz=12&sll=32.812382,-109.69265&sspn=0.192171,0.238266&ie=UTF8&ll=33.017876,-110.643311&spn=6.133526,7.624512&z=7)

It's not really something we can do in one day (it would be over 500 miles), but Springerville would be a great place to stay overnight. A while ago we were trying to get a group ride organized, but then decided more people would be able to go if we keep group rides to just a day trip and limited to about 300 miles.

It's a great ride, though. Very beautiful. Although, I think I would save that ride for late Spring, like April or May.

That now makes sense - I had not realised they changed the HWY number.
WOW 500miles - agree this is not going to happen anytime soon, but a two day spring events sounds like a great idea.
Ayway, hope to see you guy's again on Sat 21st - any route preference decided yet?

Option 1 please...and i hope my life doesn't go to shit this time!!!!!!

For route #1, the map isn't as accurate because of how Google draws the round trip.

So here is the course broken up into two legs (with accurate maps):
- Click here for a map of the first leg (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=S+Gilbert+Rd&daddr=32.987716,-110.769825+to:AZ-77+N%2FUS-60+E&geocode=FTB3_QEdfD5W-Q%3B%3BFQz1AwId5nZq-Q&hl=en&mra=dme&mrcr=0&mrsp=1&sz=15&via=1&sll=32.985952,-110.767636&sspn=0.023974,0.029783&ie=UTF8&ll=33.263953,-111.069031&spn=1.529484,1.906128&z=9)
- Click here for a map of the second leg (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=AZ-77+N%2FUS-60+E&daddr=33.395512,-111.753799&geocode=FQz1AwId5nZq-Q%3B&hl=en&mra=dme&mrcr=0&mrsp=1&sz=17&sll=33.394652,-111.752533&sspn=0.005966,0.007446&ie=UTF8&ll=33.403931,-111.09375&spn=1.527029,1.906128&z=9)

Here are the planned stops:
- The starting point on the map is a Shell gas station on N/W corner of Gilbert & US 60 Supersition Freeway (which is by my house).

However, there are alternatives (if you guys want to do breakfast again) ...
- Waffle House - Country Club & US 60 Superstition Freeway
- IHOP - Power Rd & US 60 Superstition Freeway
- There's also a Hooters on Power Rd, but then Ryan will start showing all the girls how long his thumbs are and ... you know. [roll] We should probably just avoid that place altogether.

Then ...
1. Superior - rest and gas (then down to Winkleman)
2. Globe - rest and gas
3. Salt River Canyon lookout point - rest
4. Globe - rest and gas (then straight through back towards Mesa)
5. Moki's Hawaiian Grill -- delicious Hawaiian food (http://www.mokis.com/) (Val Vista & Southern) for lunch

(http://www.mokis.com/images/logo.jpg)

 [clap]

If it's okay with you guys, I'd like to expose you to one of my favorite restaurants. I guarantee you'll go home happy. The food is great, not greasy at all, full of flavor, super delicious.

We're out for this one too since we're both competing in the El Tour de Tucson on the same day. I have to be at the starting line at about 4am.

Dave, according to my research, you haven't ridden your motorcycle since the Bush administration.

When are you going to come out and hang with your loving fans?

AZEMA

Training has been grueling over the last few months. Once the Tour is over we'll be back out on our power assisted two wheelers. I ride my monster twice a week, just enough to show it some love.  [thumbsup]

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for clarification:

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Does anyone have a preference for breakfast?

Here are the choices:
1) No breakfast
2) IHOP
3) Waffle House

Michael - Not sure if I'm going to make this one, but those are some of my favorite roads...  Do you have a start time in mind?  I would highly recommend heading straight to Globe, early, and on up to SRC before breakfast.  This get's you out ahead of lots of traffic and cops.  What we usually do is eat in Globe on the return trip.  Heading back through winkleman/kearny/Superior loop sounds fun.

That's a good idea to get to the Salt River Canyon early.

So the route is now like this:
- The way there (click for map) (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=33.38788,-111.788464&daddr=AZ-77+N%2FUS-60+E&geocode=%3BFQz1AwId5nZq-Q&hl=en&mra=dme&mrcr=0&mrsp=0&sz=13&sll=33.382003,-111.768208&sspn=0.096898,0.118446&ie=UTF8&ll=33.342002,-111.167908&spn=1.55106,1.895142&z=9)
- The way back (click for map) (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=AZ-77+N%2FUS-60+E&daddr=AZ-77+S+to:33.395565,-111.753767&geocode=FQz1AwId5nZq-Q%3BFaaI9wEdutJl-Q%3B&hl=en&mra=dme&mrcr=0&mrsp=2&sz=17&via=1&sll=33.393326,-111.752039&sspn=0.006055,0.007403&ie=UTF8&ll=33.342002,-111.167908&spn=1.55106,1.895142&z=9)

And is anyone opposed to skipping breakfast, at least until Globe?

Start time ... that's a good question.

Here are my thoughts -- The sun rises at 7:05am that day. Which, while driving directly east, will be painful with the sun right on the horizon.

So, if we met at 6:00am and left soon after that, we'd probably get to Superior by the time the sun came up, and our route would turn northeast through the mountains by then.

Is anyone opposed to meeting at 6:00am?

 [coffee]

I'll try my best to make 6am (or soon after, but well before 7am).
However that means leaving my place soon after 5am.
The reality of which will take a few day's to sink in

Michael, to avoid being the next rear tire "cord" showing group rider, I have purchased a new rear tire scheduled to install Sat. morning, therefore I am unable to join you all on the SRC/ Winkleman ride  :(. The Salt river Canyon route is also one of my favs. You should do a few laps on the twisties up in the canyon!
-j

Aw ... Man!

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Aside from the many people that I've spoken to personally, who is confirmed going?

UPDATE:

I don't think I'll be able to make my own ride.  [roll]

I still haven't put my spring back in, and my bike is in my garage in pieces.

I meant to put it back together tonight, but then I got busy doing other things ... yadda, yadda, yadda ....

Almost a month of planning and you don't even make your own ride.  [clap]

Well ... maybe a different kind of shame than the image below, but a shame nonetheless.  :-\

(http://www.adsneeze.com/media/2007/07/the-shame.jpg)