A lot of info is here: Mission Statement (http://ducatimonsterworldwide.org/index.php?topic=65.0) but here's a short version:
I can't speak for the others, but much of this is not wanting to put time into a forum owned by what amounts to an ad agency. I like the tech heavy and bullshit light environment, and that's how we're going to try to keep the DMF. But it's purpose is sharing that knowledge, not selling ad space. And while everyone develops friendships and comes to banter about all sorts of non-motorcycle topics with friends, it is still primarily a motorcycle forum. We'd like it to remain as much as possible a place for adult discourse.
Unlike the mission statement, This thread will stay unlocked for feedback.
So far, so good! wt: Thanks again for doing this....
Quote from: Statler on May 06, 2008, 08:40:21 AM
<snip>And while everyone develops friendships and comes to banter about all sorts of non-motorcycle topics with friends, it is still primarily a motorcycle forum. We'd like it to remain as much as possible a place for adult discourse.</snip>
Paramount! That is my primary use for the forum. I think if that is maintained it will continue to grow.
Excellent. The other place grew from humble beginnings. I hope this is as successful! wt: Thanks to everyone who helped make this happen for us. I have enjoyed several of the other alternative boards that have been opened as well. Though they all have there own charms and individual niches, it is nice that this place feels so like home. be::
I like the concept and used to enjoy the "other" place when it was like this. Nice job guys.
To the Mods that invited me...thanks!
Ditto! Glad to be here, guys.
+1
Awesome...
Considering that I'm locked out of the "DML" with log in issues, I'm glad this site is going up
I'm still gonna give DML a shot, but I am stoked that this forum is here as well!
I hope this isn't blocked at work.....
I think any question as to 'Why we're here' can now be answered by logging into the remnants of the DML... <sigh>
Thank you ...Thank you ...Thank you !!!!!!!!!!!!!
I just logged onto the DML and saw what I had hoped wouldn't come to pass.
Like others, I will continue to check out the DML for a while but this looks like home to me. (I like watching the aftermath of car wrecks too so that may explain why I still want to visit the DML ::) . )
Oh BTW. My old DML nickname was Pango. I never really liked it so I've "upgraded"the name to PizzaMonster but my friends just call me Joe. wt:
Oh and my new most favorite smiley......... be::
Cheers guys!! dr:: dr:: dr::
I love who ever created this. Thank you so much wt:
Yeah it's good to see familiar names on here already, thanks for keepin' your dignity and opening shop!!!
-Christopher
Thanks guys!
Luckily, my screen name wasn't taken... ;)
Well Well Well another one bites the dust. Glad I found this...actually thanks to scottrnelson's post on BARF i did.
Quote from: EvilSteve on May 06, 2008, 04:18:44 PM
Thanks guys!
Luckily, my screen name wasn't taken... ;)
I almost took it ;D
Q. Why are we here?
A.
(http://www.pbase.com/image/96667519.jpg)
Shamefully swiped from SteveG's post on TOB
God i logged onto the DML and got all depressed, it's now so generic.
I stumbled on the post about the "new" site and I am glad to be back amongst friends.
Great to see this up and running. Aussie riders are here to stay dr::
Hugh
Quote from: Duck-Stew on May 06, 2008, 04:00:08 PM
I think any question as to 'Why we're here' can now be answered by logging into the remnants of the DML... <sigh>
That about sums it up for me!! And the fact that I lost everything and had to reset my pwd just login and... well nm, you get the idea.
My deepest thanks to those who took the time and made the effort in doing this. So the rest of us won't have to go thru withdrawals of what was once a great place to hang out. Lemme know if ya need some help in anyway. wt:
Quote from: EvilSteve on May 06, 2008, 04:18:44 PM
Thanks guys!
Luckily, my screen name wasn't taken... ;)
I loaded the new DML, I read a thread, I saw a link here, my blood pressure has returned to normal levels.... b:::
Likin the new site. My old profile at DML isn't working. You guys are great, thanks.
I can appreciate why you guys are doing what you're doing here, but IMO a fork of the forum is a bad idea... Some will come here, some will stay on the DML, and some will probably frequent both, but in the end, we're all worse off being split up.
And yeah, maybe it's a lot of ads in the new site (they can easily be blocked), but that sort of thing is basically on every site anymore. You can blame VS, but they're just like the rest of us; trying to make a buck or two to pay the rent. Besides the ads, I don't see any material difference in the forum - it doesn't seem to do anything more than the old software, but it doesn't seem to do less either.
Anyway, my 2 cents. We'll see how this shakes out...
m
nice!!!
Quote from: mattb on May 06, 2008, 05:20:10 PM
I can appreciate why you guys are doing what you're doing here, but IMO a fork of the forum is a bad idea...
We agree... But since it was VS that had the option to pull the 'ad-fest' trigger, we had to have a contingency plan and the DMF is it.
I'll pick the no ads option any day of the week.
Anyone know the extent of the exodus from the DML?
Thanks mucho wt:
This has a familiar feel, Hmmmmmmmmm :)
Quote from: pompetta on May 06, 2008, 05:35:40 PM
Anyone know the extent of the exodus from the DML?
Hopefully it will create a vacuum that will suck canada straight to :e:v.
bout 100 members since its launch in 3 hours..... most of the talent, and know how is here now......
Oh thank god......i mean damn. I checked the DML first thing this morning while drinking coffee co::....like always, checked out the MOM and looked at the new replies to threads i'd posted on and all. get off work come home after a couple drinks dr::and the DML....well that's not the DML....why the hell can't I log in? WTF??? :'( :'( thank the lord it didn't take more than a couple minutes to find this
WOOOOOOOOT wt:
looks like i gotta set up my avitar and stuff
PS.....love the new smilies
EvilSteve good to see you here as well wt:
way to go everyone who set this place up be::
W00t!
Good to see so many familiar "faces." be::
Thanks to those who put in the effort to set this up!
AaronB signing in!
(http://theithacan.org/blogs/collegeave/files/2007/11/beer.jpg)(http://weirdblog.files.wordpress.com/2007/06/donuthole_donuts.jpg)
Thanks for setting up so quickly.
The old place was like crack and I was missing my fix.
Quote from: pompetta on May 06, 2008, 05:35:40 PM
Anyone know the extent of the exodus from the DML?
265 members here at this second.
WOW! I am still reeling from that mind blowing experience on the DML. I thought of that place as a home. I didn't advertise anywhere else and didn't look anywhere else for answers. Now I feel like most of the "EXODUS" do... I'm home once again.
please don't "sell out"
Thanks for letting me in. I tried several times and was getting desperate after seeing the remnants of my favourite forum.
Thanks for doing this guys. If you need Mod help, let me know.
Quote from: Motored-Sports on May 06, 2008, 05:57:22 PM
please don't "sell out"
couldn't even if we wanted to. Intentionally like that. check the mission statement for details. be::
Seriously, I'm on the verge of tears.
Yesterday afternoon I watched the DML self-destruct as its soul left it, one mod or old school member at a time.
Today I crossed my fingers and tried to log on, hoping that it would still be worthwhile. I couldn't even stomach it.
And now this evening I feel like I just walked into my favorite bar and all my old friends were there.
Quote from: DucLeone on May 06, 2008, 05:45:00 PMEvilSteve good to see you here as well wt:
Thanks. Don't really like the way other VS boards are run so this is a better option.
Nice to see so many familiar faces. :)
Sorry I had to go ruin it... ;)
Yep, another Aussie to jump ship. Thank you so much for making this happen. I was getting a headache over at that place that I can't remember the name of.
It feels good to be a small part of something new.
Now, just have to update everything.
wt:
They've now got the filter replacing the DMF url with stars.
Classy.
I noticed the changed look over at the DML. Read a few posts about the VS changes. Realized my log-in didn't work anymore at the DML. So, I guess the site I visited and enjoyed everyday for a couple a years is now dead. :'(
Thanks for the new forum. I know the DMF will be everybit as good as the old DML because of the people who make up the forum. ;D
Wow. That's all I have to say.
Thanks for starting this guys! I loved the old DML and I want this to be just as successful. I've been a member for over 4 years and I've enjoyed every minute of it. Hopefully this board keeps us together the way it should be.
We should do our best to pull eveyone away from the DML and into the DMF.
i may be in the minority, but i like VS very much feature-wise. it can be really powerful for the users, feature-full, etc.
but the ADS. and live wordlink to things the poster NEVER meant to become advertising - horseshit in a cupcake foil.
thanks for doing this, i was JUST starting to get back into the online M0t0 scene; i think since coming back the past two weeks i was simply pasted to the tech section and the basic how-to's.. just getting up the social juice to say things like "HAHA you showed me how to clean the chain, THANKS!" - too late.
politics is a pregnant dog, i'm sorry the split has happened, but many MANY thanks for the new haven.
This is the garage we used to go! mo:t:
I'm saddened with what has happened to the DML... I'm not one for all of the ads as well... Wish nothing but the best of course for the DMF and will be lurking around at both probably for a while...
Of course, I blame Mother for all of this, it's all his fault... ;D
I appreciate everyone here and will do my best to contribute. This will too be great.
Quote from: Motored-Sports on May 06, 2008, 05:57:22 PM
please don't "sell out"
Never Baby! wt: Member owned, member supported. We be a public entity that is NOT, nor will it EVER BE for sale dammit! 8)
Ahhhhh. Sigh of relief. :) How do I sign up for a titanium membership?!
damn it! all that hard work and I can't even log in anymore? all the more reason why I'm here, thanks for bringing me aboard folks! dr::
I was instantly :bang 'd by the "upgraded" DML, so I'm happy to hear this new forum has surfaced. Big thanks to those of you responsible for taking the initiative. Happy to support. Now let's mo:t:
If I buy stock now, will I get rich when the IPO comes? About how long would that be?
Quote from: Alex on May 06, 2008, 07:52:12 PM
If I buy stock now, will I get rich when the IPO comes? About how long would that be?
Cockroaches will own this ball of dirt we call earth before there's an IPO.
Quote from: Speeddog on May 06, 2008, 07:53:41 PM
Cockroaches will own this ball of dirt we call earth before there's an IPO.
so we should treat cockroaches a little better then?
The last thing I posted on the old board was something along the lines of promising to buy a membership to the new site once VS took a huge steaming dump on the DML. Well, VS took a huge steaming dump, and here I am. Where do I sign up?
now this feels like home
Thanks for this place ;D
The last place is really stuffed
I was only a member of the DML for about 2 years, couldn't believe what I found when I logged in this afternoon :-\. Oh well, to everything there is a season I suppose, but wait where are all the flashing advertisements ;D
One more ship-jumper from the DML. Holy ads batman!
Glad to be here. I tried to give DML a chance but i'm still in shock over the changes. I was having a hard time reading the posts with all the flashing ads on the border.
" I love who ever created this. Thank you so much waytogo" EXACTLY HOW I FEEL!!!!
Thanks for the new site. It's beautiful dr:: dr:: dr::
Just kicking the tires and checking the fires. I'd like to know who actually owns this board. Is that written down somewhere?
AWESOME! I am not kind of person to post a lot - but I really dont' like the change over the old place. Thanks for effort! be::
The "other place" will never be the DML. The DML died. I almost did too...that place makes me want to put a bullet in my frontal lobe.
Only complaint I have is now I have 4 forums to check each day instead of just 2. *mutter*
Quote from: Some Dude on May 06, 2008, 09:08:36 PM
Thanks for the new site. It's beautiful dr:: dr:: dr::
Honestly, it is just a re-manufactured version of the old DML. It doesn't seem like they put much thought into innovation, or uniqueness. While good IS the enemy of great, mediocrity suits some just fine (I guess).
Quote from: Sinister on May 06, 2008, 09:35:54 PM
Honestly, it is just a re-manufactured version of the old DML. It doesn't seem like they put much thought into innovation, or uniqueness. While good IS the enemy of great, mediocrity suits some just fine (I guess).
There was nothing wrong with the old site until today-why change it?
That and this way it feels familiar.
The reason they changed is so they could have fewer techs. All of their sites are vBulletin, not SMF...
Quote from: NAKID on May 06, 2008, 10:20:27 PM
The reason they changed is so they could have fewer techs. All of their sites are vBulletin, not SMF...
I know why VS changed it-I was asking Sinister why we *wouldn't* want to keep basically the same format....
Quote from: Duck-Stew on May 06, 2008, 04:00:08 PM
I think any question as to 'Why we're here' can now be answered by logging into the remnants of the DML... <sigh>
+11tybillion
AHHHH Now I can go to sleep tonight.. What a weird day.
I love you forever.
Yeah, the DML was never really about the site--it was all about the community and the folks you got to know over the years. I joined in 2003 and visited just about every day.
Now all we need is a good Randall post...
Good too see everyone making their way over.
I can't handle the old DML. I'm sure I'd get used to it, but this is so much better already. A huge wt: to all that put this together. I hope the rest of the gang migrates over here quickly so we can go back to life as usual. dr:: btw, the new smilies are the bomb. That's reason enough to hang out here. ;:|
Why we're here?!
Blame Canada!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RU6rWQd2cxs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RU6rWQd2cxs)
LOL..can someone edit this clip so she's talking about how Jim Douche, VS and the evil Canadians took over th once loved DML (RIP) before the song begins?! ;D
Quote from: EvilSteve on May 06, 2008, 04:18:44 PM
Thanks guys!
Luckily, my screen name wasn't taken... ;)
AMEN to that!!!
Quote from: Sinister on May 06, 2008, 09:18:50 PM
Just kicking the tires and checking the fires. I'd like to know who actually owns this board. Is that written down somewhere?
Have a look here:
http://ducatimonsterworldwide.org/index.php?topic=65.0
One of the things _I_ don't like is the idea that _anybody_ "owns" this board. The _members_ are what makes the community, not some pre-internet-forum era idea of "ownership". But for the record, ducpainter is currently the name on the hosting account bill, and either him or duckstew paid for the domain name (a bunch of us all bought a handful of relevant domain names when we started discussing setting this up a while back, so I might be wrong there).
big
Well people, I was not part of the old site too long (long enough to pay my Ti membership) until I found that absolute DRIBBLE they dished out today >:(. I have to say I am impressed at how fast the DMF is building. Great work guys, lets keep it simple and keep it how its intended, a bunch of monster fans sharing their passion for their bikes! wt:
P.S. Another Aussie here :)
And another Aussie just wanting to thank the people that made this happen. I don't know them all, and will probabyl never meet many of them. But thank you non the less. - Chris
ps, yeah corker new smilies mo:t: co:: dr:: be:: :wine
out of curiousity, how much does it cost to run something like this? i assume someone somewhere has to pay for the space, format licence, etc.
;D
Agreed, it has the same humble beginings of the DML, same people, all here for the same reasons, because we love our monsters, and ads suck!
I've still been having issues with the DML, so I am completely deleting it from my registry, so that I don't make the mistake of arriving there, when I want to be here to banter and kvetch!
Great thought guys!!!!!
Great job, and more will be heading here, I know our local club already has the site listed......that's how I found you!
No more hide and seek!
Ready or not! Here I come!
Quote from: sikducgrl on May 07, 2008, 06:44:11 AM
;D
Agreed, it has the same humble beginings of the DML, same people, all here for the same reasons, because we love our monsters, and ads suck!
Exactly why we built the DMF.
Quote
I've still been having issues with the DML, so I am completely deleting it from my registry, so that I don't make the mistake of arriving there, when I want to be here to banter and kvetch!
Great thought guys!!!!!
Great job, and more will be heading here, I know our local club already has the site listed......that's how I found you!
No more hide and seek!
Ready or not! Here I come!
I believe we're ready for you! :wine
Quote from: bigiain on May 07, 2008, 12:31:40 AM
Have a look here:
http://ducatimonsterworldwide.org/index.php?topic=65.0
One of the things _I_ don't like is the idea that _anybody_ "owns" this board. The _members_ are what makes the community, not some pre-internet-forum era idea of "ownership". But for the record, ducpainter is currently the name on the hosting account bill, and either him or duckstew paid for the domain name (a bunch of us all bought a handful of relevant domain names when we started discussing setting this up a while back, so I might be wrong there).
big
Please, with your pseudo-communist/collectivist notions. Oy, gevalt. Okay, Nate owns the board. Thank you.
Wow dude. Whats with the 'tude?
Quote from: JBubble on May 07, 2008, 07:58:43 AM
Wow dude. Whats with the 'tude?
;:| ;:| ;:| That's awesome! Thanks for that.
Sin
Just curious man. You're posts are a kind of filled with attitude. Didn't really see a reason behind it.
Glad to see this is here. I was pretty depressed to see the old DML go up in flames.
+ElleventyBillion ;D
Great job guys, and thanks so much for your hard work.
dj
Thanks for creating this new site. The DML was getting out of hand. I have a new name for a new site. Cheers. :wine
thanks for the new site wt:
Yay!!! Took me a few tries to get my "register" email, but it finally came, and here I am. ;D
So happy to see familiar names.
I used to be KT, but now am duqette (same as my plate). Actually, I'm still KT, out here in the real world...
Kudos to the mods! wt: wt:
Soooooo glad this happened!!!
Thanks to all the Mods who bailed us out of the sinking ship!! wt:
:bang <-----Me when I logged into the new site.....
Hi, yes im here for the bandwagon... did anyone see where they went?
Quote from: JamesMcCain on May 07, 2008, 11:38:37 AM
Hi, yes im here for the bandwagon... did anyone see where they went?
Out behind the barn, follow the smell of acrid, yet sweet, smoke. Yeah, right over there.
Quote from: Sinister on May 07, 2008, 11:46:29 AM
Out behind the barn, follow the smell of acrid, yet sweet, smoke. Yeah, right over there.
odd, I followed word by word and all I saw was ducati.ms; DML out there...
I am here to keep all of you Dainese wearing Starbucks swillers in check :wine
Quote from: Rotten Randy on May 07, 2008, 12:14:49 PM
I am here to keep all of you Dainese wearing Starbucks swillers in check :wine
I resemble that remark! Keep it warm and IZ_, man. ;:|
It's always warm but sometimes I'll shave when it gets too IZ_.... ;:|
Why are we here? I can't speak for anyone else, but I feel like I am already seeing in the DMF what I used to love about the DML. I was a little shocked & saddened when I saw the new DML :'(
...but now that I have found my way to Fraggle Rock once again I'm happy ;D
monster monster monster
...i think that it would help to know what hapened and why.
I mean, could someone please elaborate on the history?
How the DML started and who started it, who sold it and why. Also clrify for who does not know it, if any of the owners of the DML are envolved here.
It would be sad to know that the same thing that hapened to the DML could hapen here...IMHO
thanks
luca
Am I home again? Please give me hug wt:
I thought the great community was gone - is it really to be found here - just the way it was?
If the old mods have done all this in such short time with no compensation, I'm overly impressed. Where to send donations?
I'm Norwegian and I really need the spell check button. Can I have one? One that recognizes "Ducati"? :)
- also want the stars I got from my 370 posts (at age 46 I still like to be rewarded stars :D)
Is it easier to post pictures now? Mods soon (ha ha) to be completed (ha ha ha) and I'd like to share.
How about that hug?
Glad you guys did this. wt:
Quote from: Pakhan on May 07, 2008, 01:27:21 PM
Glad you guys did this. wt:
+1
Now, the Usual Suspects have a home again!
Brilliant!
Thanks guys... ;)
Congrats to the new site!
dc
Thanks, this feels like the old DML. ...I'm home!
wt: wt: wt:
Viva la Revolution!......great to see all the familiar names fellas! 8)
You know.....I thought I was logging into the DML just a while ago. Instead I found myself in Bizarro Forum! Thanks for those that posted the new addy. I like this "feel" much better. That new site is just way too busy.
RCD.
Hell yea, it feels real damn good not to have to use the freakin' horizontal scroll bar!
To all who set up DMF, bloody awesome job.... wt: wt: wt:
I noticed in the Mission Statement that you guys are operating in the negative. Should you ever need some funds to keep DMF going or enhance it I'm up for make a donation...
Bloody awesome jobs you alllll..... mo:t:
Great to be able to use my same username! Hi all!
Cesar. :)
this is great. ;D Big corp buys out old board, screws it up with adds everywhere, new board started, everyone jumps ship. be::
Excellent job ;D
does this basically mean that from here on in, the "VSDML" is gonna be just one big clusterf**k of trolls and nonsense, since all the people who hung there before the change (or the majority of them) are now here??
-I kinda feel bad for the new Monster owners who never catch on to this.... :-\
Quote from: Johnster on May 07, 2008, 07:01:23 PM
-I kinda feel bad for the new Monster owners who never catch on to this.... :-\
we'll be findable before too long with searches. give it time.
SILVANO here checking in! *walking in the front door, looks around and puts the bag down* yup, this feels like home again wt:
I've been asked quite a bit in PMs about two things:
how do people help with money
how do people know this won't be DML2 and be sold soon for profit to VS
I'll write something up and sticky post it tomorrow, but the short version is we will have a donation button some time next week and we will post financial statements to show we are covering expenses and not trying to make money. As to DML2? Never. but I'll discuss it a lot tomorrow. This will blow up and crash before it turns into what that forum turned into with VS.
Glad this site came up.....in a past life I was thundercat2320.....happy to see some familiar names.
Jamie
it is good to know that there still are people out there that hate the ad driven entertainment and information industry as much as I. a true highlight in media!!!!
the ron mo:t:
Wait I can see...thank the lord, all the flashing in front of my eyes it has disappeared be::
I was Gadget before and have been reborn as Qwack (its on my License Plate :) )
Thanks to Statler ..what about Titanium Member...will that be started up again, it can be a way to generate some money for the operation of the site too...
Either way Big THanks...wonder if I can get my membership fees refunded from the VSDML pu::
Quote from: Statler on May 07, 2008, 07:21:58 PM
I've been asked quite a bit in PMs about two things:
how do people help with money
how do people know this won't be DML2 and be sold soon for profit to VS
I'll write something up and sticky post it tomorrow, but the short version is we will have a donation button some time next week and we will post financial statements to show we are covering expenses and not trying to make money. As to DML2? Never. but I'll discuss it a lot tomorrow. This will blow up and crash before it turns into what that forum turned into with VS.
thanks statler
Thanks, Stat.
I think that this site will grow and the newly revised DML will perish.
It's like a fresh start with an old friend(s).
This is awesome.
JohnnyD
Quote from: Sinister on May 07, 2008, 07:42:48 AM
Please, with your pseudo-communist/collectivist notions. Oy, gevalt. Okay, Nate owns the board. Thank you.
Fair cop (I think of myself more as a "chardonnay socialist" then pseudo-communist, but I'm first to admit there's very little difference (except that I don't drink white wine either, but "shiraz-socialist" doesn't quite sound right)).
What I was trying to get across though, was that yeah, ultimately _somebody_has "ownership" of some essential part of a site like this (ultimately the domain name registrant I guess), but that we've set this place up in the hope of avoiding the long term plan being to sell up to someone like VS.
I dunno how to _ensure_ that _can't_ happen in the future tho, unless there's an affordable way, you're going to have to trust Nate not to sell you all out... (just the same as I have to trust him)
cheers,
big
Quote from: Statler on May 07, 2008, 07:21:58 PM
I've been asked quite a bit in PMs about two things:
how do people help with money
how do people know this won't be DML2 and be sold soon for profit to VS
I'll write something up and sticky post it tomorrow, but the short version is we will have a donation button some time next week and we will post financial statements to show we are covering expenses and not trying to make money. As to DML2? Never. but I'll discuss it a lot tomorrow. This will blow up and crash before it turns into what that forum turned into with VS.
Will there be some sort of titanium membership again?
Quote from: brad black on May 07, 2008, 05:49:18 AM
out of curiousity, how much does it cost to run something like this? i assume someone somewhere has to pay for the space, format licence, etc.
Actual monetary costs?
You can get a forum like this up and running on a ~$5(US)/month hosting plan (which is what we've been on since late Jan or early Feb). Since you hordes all turned up this week we've ramped that up to godaddy's premuim hosting plan which looks like it's costing ~$15/month.
.com domains cost ~$10/year to register (the group who started this registered maybe a dozen or so between us, and ended up using this one) (And Brad, if you're thinking about a .com.au domain, they're a little more expensive at ~$30/year, and there's also a requirement that you have a company or registered business or trading name that relates to the domain name...)
The other costs are the time involved in setting it up... Four or five of us spent a fair bit of time over a month or two getting this to the stage it is now, and we're not completely happy with how we've done it (but it seems people are happy enough, so we haven't done _too_ badly I guess). If you're happy with a default template set, you could be up and running in an evening. If you're picky about colours and layouts and stuff, you could easily spend hundreds of hours (or thousands of dollars if you need to pay someone else to do it).
cheers,
big
Hi all. I'm new to this forum after all the changes on the other one. I sent them an e-mail letting them know it was pretty tacky. Peoples posts were actually turned into adds. Words would turn green red and other colors acting as a link to an add. And all the blinking made me sick. I look forward to poking around your site.
Hey all-
I'm coming here from the DML--saw the link on DesmoNorthwest. This site feels more like the DML than the "DML" does. I always liked the community feel of the original DML, seems like it's been replaced. You've got my support! wt:
Quote from: bigiain on May 07, 2008, 09:17:28 PM
Actual monetary costs?
You can get a forum like this up and running on a ~$5(US)/month hosting plan (which is what we've been on since late Jan or early Feb). Since you hordes all turned up this week we've ramped that up to godaddy's premuim hosting plan which looks like it's costing ~$15/month.
.com domains cost ~$10/year to register (the group who started this registered maybe a dozen or so between us, and ended up using this one) (And Brad, if you're thinking about a .com.au domain, they're a little more expensive at ~$30/year, and there's also a requirement that you have a company or registered business or trading name that relates to the domain name...)
The other costs are the time involved in setting it up... Four or five of us spent a fair bit of time over a month or two getting this to the stage it is now, and we're not completely happy with how we've done it (but it seems people are happy enough, so we haven't done _too_ badly I guess). If you're happy with a default template set, you could be up and running in an evening. If you're picky about colours and layouts and stuff, you could easily spend hundreds of hours (or thousands of dollars if you need to pay someone else to do it).
cheers,
big
...so all the rumors on how "someone" HAD to sell "some-other-board" because he couldnt afford to run it are bullshit?
Quote from: lucazuma on May 07, 2008, 10:47:25 PM
...so all the rumors on how "someone" HAD to sell "some-other-board" because he couldnt afford to run it are bullshit?
Servers are expensive, especially when clogged with years of pictures, threads...etc....
Quote from: someguy on May 07, 2008, 11:13:42 PM
Servers are expensive, especially when clogged with years of pictures, threads...etc....
...but still un-cloggable or at least easyer to mantain if the membership quota (for exsample) had been yearly and not una tantum...and on and on... ;)
Quote from: lucazuma on May 07, 2008, 11:22:57 PM
...but still un-cloggable or at least easyer to mantain if the membership quota (for exsample) had been yearly and not una tantum...and on and on... ;)
Eh....Jeff made his choices, we made ours.
I won't say anything bad about it because it wasn't my money.
Quote from: lucazuma on May 07, 2008, 10:47:25 PM
...so all the rumors on how "someone" HAD to sell "some-other-board" because he couldnt afford to run it are bullshit?
Not at all. They were doing things differently over there, they owned colocated servers and had to pay for lots more stuff than we're currently paying for,because when they started there was no such thing as a $5/month hosting plan with pint and click forum installation. The other "cost" for the other place was the time and effort spend dealing with advertising and sponsors - we're hoping to minimise the overhead involved with keeping this place going, and thereby minimise the need to keep advertisers and sponsors happy.
Jeff quit his day job and started up a great monster parts business - I dunno if you've ever run a small business yourself, but you don't end up with any free time or money to keep a hobby like a busy web forum going. I _think_ when he sold out (and I've never talked to him about it) that they told him all the same things they told us as mods for the last 6 months "we won't change anything", "we'll consult with you all before we do anything" - I'm sure he though he was leaving everything in safe hands...
Didn't turn out that way.
I really appreciate what Jeff (and his helpers) built over the years, and the literal overnight success of this place shows that it fills a need for people, and the overnight ruin of the other place shows that the place _is_ the people who form the community. We (the mods) _tried_ to tell VS that, but we've all seen what happened...
big
Quote from: bigiain on May 07, 2008, 11:35:18 PMpint and click forum installation.
Freudian slip? [drink] ;)
...i know, its easyer to do the comment on the aftermath than the forecast, but still i think other possibilities were out there....
just not happy man here... :'(
What happened, happened. It's just time to move on now. :)
Quote from: msincredible on May 07, 2008, 11:45:54 PM
What happened, happened. It's just time to move on now. :)
...yeah, i hope that we learn from others mistakes... wt:
Quote from: lucazuma on May 07, 2008, 11:58:38 PM
...yeah, i hope that we learn from others mistakes... wt:
Yep, that's what we're hoping to do.
And keep in mind that we (the founders here) _know_ we're accountable to you (the members) - there's nothing to stop any of you deciding you don't like the way we're running things and starting your own forums up. I'll even offer to give you a bunch of advice about how to do it if you want, and I'll get Statler to link to your new forums in his Other Ducati Forums (http://ducatimonsterworldwide.org/index.php?topic=829.0) sticky.
We started this because we believe the way the old place used to be run suited a lot of people, and thought that if the old place changed there'd be a bunch of people who'd want to go somewhere else that did things "the old way", and thats what we're trying to do here - the same sort of ground rules, the same sort of style, and largely the same people (all 765 of us already!)
big
QuoteWe started this because we believe the way the old place used to be run suited a lot of people, and thought that if the old place changed there'd be a bunch of people who'd want to go somewhere else that did things "the old way", and thats what we're trying to do here - the same sort of ground rules, the same sort of style, and largely the same people (all 765 of us already!)
I think that's really it in a nutshell.
Thanks.
That's beautiful! cheers dr::
top effort guys.
lets keep the capitalist bastards locked out with "forgotten passwords" and "lost PM's"
paul.
Quote from: bigiain on May 07, 2008, 09:17:28 PM
Actual monetary costs?
You can get a forum like this up and running on a ~$5(US)/month hosting plan (which is what we've been on since late Jan or early Feb). Since you hordes all turned up this week we've ramped that up to godaddy's premuim hosting plan which looks like it's costing ~$15/month.
.com domains cost ~$10/year to register (the group who started this registered maybe a dozen or so between us, and ended up using this one) (And Brad, if you're thinking about a .com.au domain, they're a little more expensive at ~$30/year, and there's also a requirement that you have a company or registered business or trading name that relates to the domain name...)
The other costs are the time involved in setting it up... Four or five of us spent a fair bit of time over a month or two getting this to the stage it is now, and we're not completely happy with how we've done it (but it seems people are happy enough, so we haven't done _too_ badly I guess). If you're happy with a default template set, you could be up and running in an evening. If you're picky about colours and layouts and stuff, you could easily spend hundreds of hours (or thousands of dollars if you need to pay someone else to do it).
cheers,
big
thanks for the straight answer. i was just curious, that's all. and i thought it would have been much more expensive than that.
Quote from: brad black on May 08, 2008, 05:57:22 AM
thanks for the straight answer. i was just curious, that's all. and i thought it would have been much more expensive than that.
Using someone elses hardware is a key, and a company like godaddy has a lot of hardware. The downside? - we are at their mercy if they ever go out of business, or ramp up their rates.
But, they keep things secure, and upgrade their server software routinely, which is good, except we have to keep our smf software up to date also so everything plays nice, and that can cause problems, some of which we are seeing this week.
I can't really add too much to big's and stat's posts about the feel for the place, but I can see where Jeff H. came from in his decision to sell (*I have never talked to him about it either). It is a big responsibility keeping things running. There is also lot of BS that certain members create, and you to stay on top of it 24/7 literally, which is why it is great having mods in Europe, Australia, US East, and West. And finally, after 4+ years of owning it, I am sure he was ready for a change.
mitt
Bravo! wt:
I think Luca needs a hug... Group Hug everyone! And another pint... dr::
I think I'll be real happy over here. A big thanks to all who made it possible. wt:
Quote from: bigiain on May 08, 2008, 12:16:47 AM
We started this because we believe the way the old place used to be run suited a lot of people, and thought that if the old place changed there'd be a bunch of people who'd want to go somewhere else that did things "the old way", and thats what we're trying to do here - the same sort of ground rules, the same sort of style, and largely the same people (all 765 of us already!)
...im sure that Jeff never even immagined how big the DML could have become and certainly never started it with the intention of making a profit out of it. But money change things and much more easyer, they change people.
I loved the DML and all the people in it (almost ;D) and got personally banned and attacked for expressing my concern about private sponsorships etc. etc. and before i fall in love with the DMF i would like to know that it will never be sold...just that.
Quote from: loony888 on May 08, 2008, 04:29:42 AM
lets keep the capitalist bastards locked out with "forgotten passwords" and "lost PM's"
...speaking of wich, an alternative to sell out to VS could have been to set up a CoOp-like entity. Legally sell the forum to its members.
Leave the comunity based forum to the comunity...I think this is actually a possibility for this forum...
25$ per-year membership * 765 (
for exsample assuming that all members at this moment would want to contribute)= $19,125
...i think 20k a year to run a forum like this and ensure that it would stay ours for ever is not a bad deal... ;D
luca
and btw ill take the hugs AND the beer be::
ps: i need a spellcheck button :)
Lucazuma that possibility is just that now...a possibility. That's what Statler has mentioned a couple of times (so many similar threads that I can't find exactly where he wrote that), he said he is going to post something up later today that will be more official but saying something along those lines.
T
It's good to be back! dr::
Now I need to get my sig picture and avatar cranking.
Nice work, guys!
Thank you fo keeping it real...
Suggestion:
Can the founder, board members, mods and whoever in charge introduce yourselves?
This community feels so right and I think it would add to the feeling of "togetherness" (spell check button coming?) if we know who our superiors are.
I was thinking pictures, some personal info, jobs, interests, bike info - that sort of things.
Quote from: stopintime on May 08, 2008, 12:05:49 PM
Suggestion:
Can the founder, board members, mods and whoever in charge introduce yourselves?
This community feels so right and I think it would add to the feeling of "togetherness" (spell check button coming?) if we know who our superiors are.
I was thinking pictures, some personal info, jobs, interests, bike info - that sort of things.
Read the Mission Statement (http://ducatimonsterworldwide.org/index.php?topic=65.0) and the introduce yourself page for a who's who.
wt:
mitt
Nice wt:
- and if I haven't already said so: thank you so much for this great place!
Lars
Oslo, Norway
Just want to say after a couple of days online here that this plays "feels" familiar. Nice job guys.
Quote from: T-byrd on May 08, 2008, 11:06:31 AM
Lucazuma that possibility is just that now...a possibility. That's what Statler has mentioned a couple of times (so many similar threads that I can't find exactly where he wrote that), he said he is going to post something up later today that will be more official but saying something along those lines.
T
...yep, had a PM exchange with Chris about this yesterday. Just wanted to see ifi was the only idealist out here :)
apparently not ;)
...and thats luca for you T-bird ;D
I'm here finally -- glad to see the same cast of characters that made the DML such a great place the last few years.
As for the DML? Sad to see it die a rather unnecessary and unrequired death. But after myself having weeks of problem accessing due to blocked IP problems at home/shop and then dealing with the new ADMIN in regard to signature lines, what I said and how I said it. Tuesday was just the final nail in the coffin for myself.
So thanks folks for making this new sandbox happen -- it is much appreciated!
Mark / MotoCreations
Where was my invitation, jerks?!?!?!? "in the mail?" har har.
well i found you guys anyhow. and the beer drinking smilies make me laugh.
and i also like the DMF is close to the board I used to goes acronym.
HERE HERE! dr:: be:: and for the ladies: :wine
Well, we were trying to keep this place a secret from you...and just you. ;) ;D
T
Quote from: ato memphis on May 08, 2008, 01:53:14 PM
Where was my invitation, jerks?!?!?!? "in the mail?" har har.
well i found you guys anyhow. and the beer drinking smilies make me laugh.
and i also like the DMF is close to the board I used to goes acronym.
HERE HERE! dr:: be:: and for the ladies: :wine
Quote from: ato memphis on May 08, 2008, 01:53:14 PM
HERE HERE! dr:: be:: and for the ladies: :wine
I'll take the [drink] thanks! [beer] :-*
Lucy, i'm home!
I think I'll have a bottle of Champagne ready and stay up late tomorrow - to celebrate 1,000 members.
I found it, the new ducati monster forum yay!!!
Great - isn't it? wt:
It just dosn't get any better than this
THANKS
I'm here to find out why those other guys were calling Warren bad names? And this isn't even an election year. Is it?
FE
ok where the hell is BP?
thanks for the new site all! wt:
dr::Man oh man, I needed that! I just joined the other forum, got a TI membership, and then, the next day, kapoof!!! Massive change. WTF??!?!?
Quote from: MotoCreations on May 08, 2008, 01:46:22 PM
I'm here finally -- glad to see the same cast of characters that made the DML such a great place the last few years.
Welcome Mark, glad to have you on board!
You realise you now owe it to use to debut your next work of art here, right? ;)
big
Quote from: MotoCreations on May 08, 2008, 01:46:22 PM
I'm here finally -- glad to see the same cast of characters that made the DML such a great place the last few years.
As for the DML? Sad to see it die a rather unnecessary and unrequired death. But after myself having weeks of problem accessing due to blocked IP problems at home/shop and then dealing with the new ADMIN in regard to signature lines, what I said and how I said it. Tuesday was just the final nail in the coffin for myself.
So thanks folks for making this new sandbox happen -- it is much appreciated!
Mark / MotoCreations
Bout time you got on here!
Kinda wished somebody told me to print a copy of my DML info. That was an evolving information page...does anybody remember what all I did to my bike ???
Anyways I feel like my page (and that pic of my nephew wearing my helmet) is all I've lost, because everybody is here on the DMF already. Thanks for the heads up Tommys67.
-Dan
Hi guys glad to be here and leve the other gost town site in the dust wt:
I guess that I'm a new guy, here. So long other monster fourm.
Hey, you guys have dark beer here. Right on! dr::
What the crap? I knew the changes were coming to the old site but wow that is ree-dic-arous. Thanks for doing this here.
My account was lost on the old site, probably the best thing that ever happened.
uh oh, more troublemakers... be::
Quote from: spolic on May 09, 2008, 07:59:45 AM
I guess that I'm a new guy, here. So long other monster fourm.
Hey, you guys have dark beer here. Right on! dr::
That's a face I recognize - not easy to forget. Good to have it/you here wt:
woo hoo!!, not a heavy poster but DML was my daily dose of sanity (in ;> somedays) , really glad we have this new board. I understand the needs to pay for the care and feeding of a site but that new site is unreal.
thanks to whoever the new(this) board gods and mods are!!!
:e:v
Where am I?
Quote from: ducpainter on May 09, 2008, 11:26:43 AM
Where am I?
according to what is says below your avatar, you are where you currently are :)
Man,
You guys have no idea how glad I am to see the old DML alive and well in it's new un corporate bullshit mode as the DMF.
Thank you a million times to whomever set out to do this.
Once we can contribute, please let us know so we can pony up a few buks to make sure the DMF doesn't go the way of the DML.
Looking forward to seeing old the old faces, and hopefully some new ones her.
And by the way when we will the boobies and butts thread be started, and in what forum...
jimi
Quote from: Duck-Stew on May 06, 2008, 04:00:08 PM
I think any question as to 'Why we're here' can now be answered by logging into the remnants of the DML... <sigh>
+1. My thanks to whomever got this up and running or whatever you did to make sure its here!
:leo:
Later...
Brewster...
Quote from: wantingaduc on May 09, 2008, 02:27:47 PM
And by the way when we will the boobies and butts thread be started, and in what forum...
when: now
what forum: www.coastalducaticlub.org They are very very good at that.
;D
Quote from: Bergweiserus on May 09, 2008, 11:29:45 AM
according to what is says below your avatar, you are where you currently are :)
that would make me there...
thanks for clearing that up Berg...
I've been distracted lately.
Can we rename this place to "Ducati Monster Lounge" or something where the acronym would *actually* be D.M.L.??
;)
I was one of the original mailing list guys, and I love that I will now refer to *this* as the DML. DML was never the medium, it was the people.
I love you guys.
:-*
Too close to the Ducati Riders Lounge that another member started I think...
Quote from: ducpainter on May 09, 2008, 04:18:20 PM
that would make me there...
thanks for clearing that up Berg...
I've been distracted lately.
;:|
Congrats on the move wt: but would somebody gimme an insight on happened to the DML?
WTF are all these ads? :bang
dr:: (that's my smilie from now on. . . )
DML got fed into and spit out the back end of the corporate greed machine
Quote from: bryant8 on May 06, 2008, 03:49:17 PM
Considering that I'm locked out of the "DML" with log in issues, I'm glad this site is going up
I'm in the same boat - apparently I found DML and tried to register about the same time all the mods resigned, so my password confirmation got stuck in internet limbo.
Glad I found this place, I'm sure I'll have a ton of questions.
DTRAL
THANK YOU for the move away from the corporate BS....
It's great to be here.
+1
Glad I found the thread on DML that lead me back to the fold.
Thanks guys. While I was in the desert DML was my connection to the real world and happy people. Glad to see we still have a home.
-Tim
Goodness! Took me forever to figure out where this went... thanks for rebuilding our home.
Thanks for pulling this together....
Rob
I'm so glad I found this site finally. Stumbled around in the DML for awhile and read all threads about people leaving and trying to find the "new" site. Fortunately it didn't take long to find my way here.
Probably will keep checking out the DML from time to time to see what's going on.
Thanks guys for getting this going. [thumbsup]
/Pete
New Monster rider here (I've only ridden metric cruisers and a Busa before this one). . . I've spent the last week combing the proverbial interweb desert in search of information on my recently purchased '97 M750. Stumbled across the new corporate microfascist state, or whatever the best metaphor for the "other forum" is. . . nearly went sick from being bombarded by advertisements and reading about the censorship. Guess a small intro is in order, while I'm at it - name's Gary, I'm a born tinkerer and I'm guilty of hatin' on rice burners and Harleys equally. I'm a daily rider, a professional geek, a music collector, and I can be convinced of just about anything if I am handed a good cup o' joe. Welp, all I wanted to say [beer] is CHEERS! [beer] Glad I found THIS place, and I expect many happy returns.
p.s. Don't hate me because my clutch is wet :P Haha
thank the moto god for you guys starting this up...
i was on the DML just a short time (about 6 mo) before it became what it is.
i am so glad that there are people willing to do this for a community of people with nothing but love for monsters!
thanks again!
Alexandre
PS thanks for the facebook email or i would have given up entirely on looking for a replacement to DML- i wasnt willing to spend any more time there to find out what happened...
To quote Lewis Black:
"UFCK!!!... We're Home!"
edited: for language.
Glad to be here! I didnt like the new setup in the DML
Love the smileys! [wine]
THANK YOU!! THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU!!!
This is what we need.
It is nice to find home again.
As a soon to be 696 owner, I cannot wait to use this new site as a resource. I had done much research on the unmentionable site, but as a newbie, I gotta go where the knowledge is. I'm here. Thanks for getting this going. I hope to contribute later as I get to know my bike.
Ciao baby!
Since moving here from the "other" board, I can honestly say that my epileptic seizures are now gone. [moto]
I have read most of the posts within this thread and it is clear that we all want to maintain a "community" of interest feel and presence about the passion of our Ducati Monsters. I think the real issue is how we all remain vigilant in maintaining this ethos. The previous site would have started out with all the same and right intension but as they grow and build the actual essence of why it was created and what is actually the "life blood" of the site is completely lost.
So lets all remember what has happened.. support the people who have put in an incredible amount of person time and effort and where possible support the companies that support this site. I know from now on I will buy from companies that are behind this site over and above the others... So lets hope they come on board.
Great work guys... and bring on the T-shirts, Logos and other stuff... I have got rid of the DML stuff..
Bret
It's good to see the usual suspect stirring the pot :D
[thumbsup] [thumbsup] [thumbsup]
Z...
I'm soooo pleased that you guys have started this forum. The only fun thing at the other place now is watching guys get banned. I hope to contribute here in the future but for a while I'll be asking for help. Thanks so much!
So, I guess everyone is here. How about making regional board like we used to have? It really helps to coordinate rides, meets, etc.
Jo
Quote from: jftoha on May 15, 2008, 03:22:21 PM
So, I guess everyone is here. How about making regional board like we used to have? It really helps to coordinate rides, meets, etc.
Jo
Look here (http://ducatimonsterworldwide.org/index.php?action=forum#6)
Nice work. It's good to be back.
Quote from: msincredible on May 15, 2008, 03:26:58 PM
Look here (http://ducatimonsterworldwide.org/index.php?action=forum#6)
Thanks, I looked to the same place where those used to be, in the menu on the right.
With no ads...now where am I supposed to get my blow dolls??????? [evil]
My first post on the un-clutered forum. I used to hang out in the other site, as most of us did. I only got to experience the original version for a few months but they were very informative and helped me in my purchase decision of an '08 M695.
Thanks for not having all those blinking ads here, if I wanted to be annoyed by ads i would just surf for porn.
Thanks again for creating this new place to chill.
Hey Guys and Dolls!
A couple of days ago I came back from vacation, posted some new pics (as allways [roll]) and didn't quite understand what was happening and why. That came later.
But I'm glad to have found you!!! (Took me some time, though...).
Thank you for this new place!
Quote from: Celli on May 17, 2008, 04:21:12 PM
Hey Guys and Dolls!
A couple of days ago I came back from vacation, posted some new pics (as always [roll]) and didn't quite understand what was happening and why. That came later.
But I'm glad to have found you!!! (Took me some time, though...).
Thank you for this new place!
Hi Celli, I saw your post over there (just lurking) and didn't understand why one of the experienced guys would still be there. You didn't get much response over there, did you? Good to see your short butt avatar here.
Quote from: stopintime on May 17, 2008, 04:44:46 PM
Hi Celli, I saw your post over there (just lurking) and didn't understand why one of the experienced guys would still be there. You didn't get much response over there, did you? Good to see your short butt avatar here.
Thanks!!! I was wondering why everybody disappeared! Kind of spooky.
Quote from: Celli on May 17, 2008, 05:06:22 PM
Thanks!!! I was wondering why everybody disappeared! Kind of spooky.
Is that your bike in your avatar?
If so send me some pics of that thing, it's rockin'!! [thumbsup]
Quote from: Monsterlover on May 18, 2008, 07:07:06 AM
Is that your bike in your avatar?
If so send me some pics of that thing, it's rockin'!! [thumbsup]
Thanks!! Pics come later when i know how to do that..... Bike is almost ready. Busy with homemade fluidreservoirs instead of the Rizoma's I have now. ExBox is black now. You can see pics on my website if you like!
:( Web site-o no load-o
Quote from: Monsterlover on May 18, 2008, 09:19:07 AM
:( Web site-o no load-o
opera man?
(http://www.rightblueeye.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2006/09/operaman4.jpg)
You can't upload images here, you have to link to them.
directions here ---> Linky to FAQ to post Pics (http://ducatimonsterworldwide.org/index.php?topic=109.0)
He did link to them, it just didn't work.
Opera Man [laugh]
I was wondering where everybody went! Finally found a reference to this site in a post. Glad to see some fimiliar names.
Another Aussie has found his way here also! ;D
To those responsible for creating this new Forum; Thankyou [thumbsup]
Thank you for keeping this group alive. I've been a long time member of the recently defunct and have learned a ton from all of you along the way. To that I say [drink]!
Hi everyone....Like many of us, I ended up here after "disliking" the new DML. I don't mind advertising, I even supported the DML sponsors but I don't want to "dig" to find the forum topics in an insane amount of ads. So guys, if you have advertisers (and I know you will) try to keep them like the old DML: visible but not obstructive and annoying.....
[wine] Salud!!!
Thankfully I found this website after literally Googling "what the h*ll happened to ducatimonster.org" Who in their right mind would go to that website; ad after ad after ad after no new postings. Corporate America at it's finest; take something good and booger it up into something that resembles a pile of....., well you get the idea.
Finally I find you all. ;D
I'll never play hide and seek with you guys. [laugh]
[laugh]
Yeah, we're pro's
[laugh]
hi,
Im having trouble posting parts I'd like to sell. Where and how do I post to classified????
Thanks,
Skoota Trash
Quote from: Skoota Trash on May 24, 2008, 02:03:56 PM
hi,
Im having trouble posting parts I'd like to sell. Where and how do I post to classified????
Thanks,
Skoota Trash
I'd check on the left hand side in the navigation side bar.
It says Marketplace.
I hope that's not the only reason you're here...check the place out.
Great statement! The old board is mayhem...seems much more tranquil over here. I look forward to learning more about my bike, mods and riding from the veterans in this forum!
I'm not really a member. I just joined in order to extend my empathy towards your site for having been another board that VS tried to take over. I was a moderator/member on the r6messagenet for many many years before our board was taken over by the "ad men". We too, hit the road and rebuilt and I'd like to congratulate you for doing the same. Member supported communities>corporate bs. [thumbsup]
Quote from: warmseth on June 04, 2008, 10:14:56 AM
I'm not really a member. I just joined in order to extend my empathy towards your site for having been another board that VS tried to take over. I was a moderator/member on the r6messagenet for many many years before our board was taken over by the "ad men". We too, hit the road and rebuilt and I'd like to congratulate you for doing the same. Member supported communities>corporate bs. [thumbsup]
Glad to hear there were survivors from previous battles. :)
Quote from: warmseth on June 04, 2008, 10:14:56 AM
I'm not really a member. I just joined in order to extend my empathy towards your site for having been another board that VS tried to take over. I was a moderator/member on the r6messagenet for many many years before our board was taken over by the "ad men". We too, hit the road and rebuilt and I'd like to congratulate you for doing the same. Member supported communities>corporate bs. [thumbsup]
I surprises the hell out of me that VS would continue to follow the same plan when site after site follows the same pattern.
My guess is they show large numbers of "members" on their rolls, even after most folks have moved on elsewhere. And of course, they base their ad prices on the number of folks, not the number of posts.
Or as I said before they raped TOB, sounds like strip mining to me.
Now if everyone were to delete their old accounts... [evil]
Quote from: Drunken Monkey on June 07, 2008, 10:19:15 AM
Now if everyone were to delete their old accounts... [evil]
Is there a way to do that?
I don't think. Your name goes away, and is replaced with a number.
And you can still log in.
Finally found my way over.....they blocked all links to here on the DML >:(
Thanks for doing this btw! [thumbsup]
Quote from: warmseth on June 04, 2008, 10:14:56 AM
I'm not really a member. I just joined in order to extend my empathy towards your site for having been another board that VS tried to take over. I was a moderator/member on the r6messagenet for many many years before our board was taken over by the "ad men". We too, hit the road and rebuilt and I'd like to congratulate you for doing the same. Member supported communities>corporate bs. [thumbsup]
Yeah man, I recognized your name....BMiller is my account over on the MN too....they're all getting taken over by that ****** company [bang]
I had been away for a while and when I returned to the "other" forum I knew within the first 2 seconds that something had changed. Then it took only a few threads to realize that a large number had moved out, and a few more threads to realize that I needed to do a google search. This was how I found this forum. it has the feel that the other one lost. Glad to have found you all.
Cheers. [beer]
John
Quote from: powerband on June 16, 2008, 09:28:27 PM
I had been away for a while and when I returned to the "other" forum I knew within the first 2 seconds that something had changed. Then it took only a few threads to realize that a large number had moved out, and a few more threads to realize that I needed to do a google search. This was how I found this forum. it has the feel that the other one lost. Glad to have found you all.
Glad you made it John, I was wondering what had happened to you. :) [thumbsup]
AMEN!!!! Now lets get to modding..............bikes................
Hi,
Thanks for creating the forum and glad to be here! Was on DML but figured I'd start the new site here with a new name.
Other than the fact that DMF also could stand for Dumb Mother F@#$er I like it. We'll have to do a head count to see who's made it here from the DML.
Quote from: jbrizz on July 03, 2008, 11:57:17 AM
Hi,
Thanks for creating the forum and glad to be here! Was on DML but figured I'd start the new site here with a new name.
And your old name was?
Quote from: Desmo_Profundis on July 05, 2008, 11:17:12 AM
Other than the fact that DMF also could stand for Dumb Mother F@#$er I like it. We'll have to do a head count to see who's made it here from the DML.
...and the problem with that is? ;D
Quote from: Lucazuma on May 08, 2008, 10:06:52 AM
i would like to know that it will never be sold...just that.
werd.
but i don't think that setting up a legal entity or complex subscription/ownership thing is a good idea. it'll add complexity and too much paperwork and crap (speaking from experience here).
a good handful of administrators like it is now is good. responsibilities won't get spread too thin. It'll maintain accountability.
but you gotta keep the community in the loop. make a forum section where you keep those financial statements published. discuss publicly all major decisions. if DML did that, they would probably have found a way to cash Jeff out and still be alive without having sold out to VS.
you could also put in that forum section sponsor info, maybe sponsors could post DMF member deals in there. they'd get volume, we'd get deals, everyone's happy.
for fundraising, you could do one of those graphical thermometers (like on those TV fundraising things) where you have a goal to raise $x for certain projects/upgrades, etc. just make it a sticky forum post and make it a dynamic pic. i don't know about you but when I see those things it just makes me want to make the thermometer go up!
EXCELLENT WORK
I would have gladly paid a buck or two extra for a shirt to help support the board.
Keeping us in the loop is a great idea. Don't care about financial statements, but letting us know if funds are low empowers us as to the future of 'our' board.
Quote from: EvilSteve on May 06, 2008, 04:18:44 PM
Thanks guys!
Luckily, my screen name wasn't taken... ;)
HAPPY to be here! pete/gearitalia
Quote from: gearitalia on July 28, 2008, 11:21:09 PM
HAPPY to be here! pete/gearitalia
Hey Pete!
Welcome to the board [thumbsup]
- Randy
Just made it here tonight. I had joined the "other" forum, didn't post too much and before I could really get into it, it was sold. I really do not like how that company/group runs their forums so I dropped out completely. Glad to see this place up and going. I may not post up a lot - too busy working and riding ;) - but it's nice to know there is somewhere decent to go again when I want to read/talk Ducatis. Thankee. [thumbsup]
I've been reading up on this site for a little while, and read on the DML for about a year...up until they f'ed it all up. I'm glad to see that a lot of the most helpful people from the "other" site are here. Probably the biggest reason I'm here is because I just picked up my first bike, a '99 900s. [beer]
awesome guys, awesome. I already feel more comfortable. that other place started to make feel well sticky everytime i went back. like seeing an an ex girlfriend get fat.
[beer] I just want to thank the Flounder Admins & anyone responsible for the creation and maintenance of the DMF. I have been really enjoying the fun & information for the past couple of months I have been on the Forum. What could be better than getting a few laughs & becoming a better rider ? ( I love Ms Incredible's 128 ways to drop your bike thread - & the crash analysis & I saved It threads).
I thought about trying to send all of the Admins a personal thank-you but I was afraid I would leave someone out - so I hope y'all will see this !
Anyway thanks again for all your effort ! The Forum is a little slice of La Dolce Vida as far as I'm concerned. I'd be honored to buy each & every one of you the beverage of your choice ! [thumbsup]
Wow! Been gone for a while and came back to.... well you know. Soooo happy I found you guys here. It's been 5 min and I'm feeling all warm and IZ_ already. Thanks in advance even before I go to check it all out! - Bill
Good job guys keep up the good work! The DMF is a great place for networking among fellow Duc lovers!
new to the board here but not to monsters
thanks for the "better" alternative [clap]
Great site... The Monster family feel. Thanks
endless info and support here. love it.
Glad to be here and have found this great forum...definitely a fine example of technology put to good use, with the amount of information shared. Thanks! [thumbsup]
This forum is teh awesomes. Thanks for building and maintaining it, I hope to make a donation soon. [bow_down]