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Title: Replacing the air box with the cone air filters
Post by: jamanta on November 03, 2009, 11:49:20 AM
Hi guys, i saw a picture of a Monster somewhere and the guy had replaced the air intake box with 2 conical air filters.

Can anyone give me some guidance on how to do this? Which parts do I need to get? Is there any extra modding required?

Any help will be appreciated. It's almost winter and I have to find something to do heheh  [coffee]


Title: Re: Replacing the air box with the cone air filters
Post by: Bill in OKC on November 03, 2009, 12:21:40 PM
What model Monster do you want to modify?


Title: Re: Replacing the air box with the cone air filters
Post by: jamanta on November 03, 2009, 12:26:11 PM
I have a 05 S2R 800. Already has the Power Commander and the full Titanium Arrow Exhaust. Thanks!


Title: Re: Replacing the air box with the cone air filters
Post by: Bill in OKC on November 03, 2009, 12:28:55 PM
One option is TPO makes a kit. 


Title: Re: Replacing the air box with the cone air filters
Post by: jamanta on November 03, 2009, 12:31:08 PM
is K&N a option? Do I need adapters to fit the cones on the tubes or it will just fit in there?


Title: Re: Replacing the air box with the cone air filters
Post by: Bill in OKC on November 03, 2009, 12:34:38 PM
http://www.tpoparts.com/catalog/advanced_search_result.php?keywords=monster&search_in_description=1 (http://www.tpoparts.com/catalog/advanced_search_result.php?keywords=monster&search_in_description=1)

One kit has only the adapters, one kit has the K&Ns included - some on here have made their own adapter and used K&Ns.


Title: Re: Replacing the air box with the cone air filters
Post by: Dietrich on November 03, 2009, 12:37:18 PM
Another nice kit:
http://www.ducshop.com/product_view.php?cat=7&pid=321 (http://www.ducshop.com/product_view.php?cat=7&pid=321)

Common sentiment is that you will lose power by simply sticking on cone filters.  You need an engineered velcocity stack to help flow without an airbox.


Title: Re: Replacing the air box with the cone air filters
Post by: Bill in OKC on November 03, 2009, 12:38:59 PM
That is a really nice kit.


Title: Re: Replacing the air box with the cone air filters
Post by: jamanta on November 03, 2009, 12:40:31 PM
Another nice kit:
http://www.ducshop.com/product_view.php?cat=7&pid=321 (http://www.ducshop.com/product_view.php?cat=7&pid=321)

Common sentiment is that you will lose power by simply sticking on cone filters.  You need an engineered velcocity stack to help flow without an airbox.

Will this be all I need to do this mod?



Title: Re: Replacing the air box with the cone air filters
Post by: stopintime on November 03, 2009, 01:21:33 PM
Another nice kit:
.................

Common sentiment is that you will lose power by simply sticking on cone filters.  You need an engineered velcocity stack to help flow without an airbox.

Which of the two options here will be the best engineered velocity stacks -TPO's or DucShop's? If my ECU can be adjusted accordingly (don't know how much more there is) I'm kind of ready for this 8)


Title: Re: Replacing the air box with the cone air filters
Post by: DucHead on November 03, 2009, 01:30:32 PM
I just did this on my S4R.

You'll have to remove the crankcase breather box, and top the hose off with a filter -- I bought mine from K&N along with the pod filters for the throttle bodies.

I also bought a pair of OEM velocity stacks off a DMF member (eBay would prolly work too) for $25 and cut off the flairs.  Total cost: $120.

Bolted everything up and I've been enjoying the induction noise ever since!!   [evil]

...and I doubt I'll ever notice the loss of a few HP on the top end.


Title: Re: Replacing the air box with the cone air filters
Post by: jamanta on November 03, 2009, 01:54:48 PM
I just did this on my S4R.

You'll have to remove the crankcase breather box, and top the hose off with a filter -- I bought mine from K&N along with the pod filters for the throttle bodies.

I also bought a pair of OEM velocity stacks off a DMF member (eBay would prolly work too) for $25 and cut off the flairs.  Total cost: $120.

Bolted everything up and I've been enjoying the induction noise ever since!!   [evil]

...and I doubt I'll ever notice the loss of a few HP on the top end.

Are you referring to something similar to this? http://cgi.ebay.com/Ducati-916-748-996-throttle-intake-velocity-stacks-x2_W0QQitemZ370279132610QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Motorcycle_Parts?hash=item56365b2dc2 (http://cgi.ebay.com/Ducati-916-748-996-throttle-intake-velocity-stacks-x2_W0QQitemZ370279132610QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Motorcycle_Parts?hash=item56365b2dc2)


Title: Re: Replacing the air box with the cone air filters
Post by: scduc on November 03, 2009, 02:08:26 PM
Pompetta--- Did you notice the bike running rough and some what stuttering on acceleration? When I removed my breather and replaced with the TPO kit, I did not like the way she ran. Mine was all stock. I would really like to run the TPO filter kit, but I do not want to compromise performance.


Title: Re: Replacing the air box with the cone air filters
Post by: hackers2r on November 03, 2009, 02:17:46 PM
SCDUC, I am fairly confident that the bike will need to be tuned with any of these kits.


Title: Re: Replacing the air box with the cone air filters
Post by: kopfjÀger on November 03, 2009, 02:52:30 PM
The Ducshop kit won't work on the 800.  ;)


Title: Re: Replacing the air box with the cone air filters
Post by: DucHead on November 04, 2009, 01:46:23 AM
Are you referring to something similar to this? http://cgi.ebay.com/Ducati-916-748-996-throttle-intake-velocity-stacks-x2_W0QQitemZ370279132610QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Motorcycle_Parts?hash=item56365b2dc2 (http://cgi.ebay.com/Ducati-916-748-996-throttle-intake-velocity-stacks-x2_W0QQitemZ370279132610QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Motorcycle_Parts?hash=item56365b2dc2)

Your throttle bodies are different than mine.  I don't think you need/can use the velocity stacks at all.  Just fit the filters to the tops of the intake hoses (part#4, Drawing 016, page 40 of the S2R parts manual), or purchase the TPO/DucShop kit.

Pompetta--- Did you notice the bike running rough and some what stuttering on acceleration? When I removed my breather and replaced with the TPO kit, I did not like the way she ran. Mine was all stock. I would really like to run the TPO filter kit, but I do not want to compromise performance.

I have the DP ECU, and the bike runs fine...plugs are light tan, no hesitation/stuttering.


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