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Moto Board => Tech => Topic started by: fouramdesigns on November 06, 2009, 06:36:45 AM

Title: Power
Post by: fouramdesigns on November 06, 2009, 06:36:45 AM
I've had my bike now for almost a year, a daily driver, sold the car. I spend a lot of time with this bike. Do most maint myself. I've had the bike in two shops, the most recent I feel very confident in. But my bike just does not seem has fast as it did. A few times the CO has been off. And excuse my ignorance, I'm not entirely familar with the total fuel system, but I feel like there's a unresolved issue that keeps causing performance to change. The bike use to accelerate fast and hard, it now feels it takes a few secs to kick in, also seems not to rev as hard, like the engine is giving out sooner. All I can go by is past experience, my daily rides, and of course, sounds. I'm an audio engineer, and the bike just doesn't sound the same. At the 12K/base gasket, I had all filters replaced, throttles syched etc. They said all looked well. But the throttle link,  at the body was a bit sticky, we lubed it. Also replaced the cable. I just don't have money to keep throwing away, chasing a problem. Just curious if anyone else has experienced a similar issue. Even considered the fact that maybe I've just gotten use to the bike. I read somewhere once that an S4 set up like mine has 120wrhp, sure doesn't feel like it.
Title: Re: Power
Post by: Speeddog on November 06, 2009, 06:54:51 AM
If your sig line is up to date, here's some data on what an S4 with that setup does on a dyno:
http://www.bikeboy.org/monsters4_perfkit.html (http://www.bikeboy.org/monsters4_perfkit.html)

Basically, 105 HP.
As usual, YMMV, as dynos differ.

The recent replacement of all the filters eliminates them as suspects.

Do you have the OEM ECU to try?

Title: Re: Power
Post by: fouramdesigns on November 06, 2009, 07:07:27 AM
no just the Termi. Maybe the shop can loan me one
Title: Re: Power
Post by: Speeddog on November 06, 2009, 07:17:13 AM
Pretty sure it wouldn't work due to the immobilizer, but '01 S4s seem to be more tolerant, so it may be worth a try.
Title: Re: Power
Post by: fouramdesigns on November 06, 2009, 07:27:55 AM
crap is driving me crazy. I love my bike, but geesh. I found a bike co-op here in Nashville, may see what some of the veterans can suggest.
Title: Re: Power
Post by: scott_araujo on November 06, 2009, 08:13:09 AM
In addition to a full tune up (CO set, iilde set, TPS reset, TB synch, fuel & air filters, valve clearance set, oil & filter) you may want to do a compression check and get the cams degreed.  If that's all in order and nothing looks off, is it possible you're just getting used to the power?

Scott
Title: Re: Power
Post by: fouramdesigns on November 06, 2009, 09:04:23 AM
Quote from: scott_araujo on November 06, 2009, 08:13:09 AM
In addition to a full tune up (CO set, iilde set, TPS reset, TB synch, fuel & air filters, valve clearance set, oil & filter) you may want to do a compression check and get the cams degreed.  If that's all in order and nothing looks off, is it possible you're just getting used to the power?

Scott
I know all but the comp test and cams degree'd were done. May be time for that KTM Super Duke R...yes sir
Title: Re: Power
Post by: scott_araujo on November 06, 2009, 09:29:50 AM
Wow, sad times when a Termi equipped S4 v-twin doesn't have enough torque.  Too bad there's no 12 step program for Ducati addiction.  ;)

Scott
Title: Re: Power
Post by: fouramdesigns on November 06, 2009, 09:35:53 AM
I love my Duc, but I love speed and my neck snap more. Maybe the bike just needs a few tweaks. I would never part with her, least not now I have 8K in her, and the market is so sour.
Title: Re: Power
Post by: greenmonster on November 07, 2009, 02:20:06 PM
You have another thread were horn affects tach.
Combined it sounds electrical/ECU related.
Battery/charging OK f e?
All earth connectors good?
Title: Re: Power
Post by: fouramdesigns on November 09, 2009, 05:04:30 AM
well like I posted in the other, the bike has been wonky on start. It's the battery that came with the bike, a Bike Master or something. May be time for a Yusa. Today, when I turned the key to lock, someone at work told me my lights were still on, weird. I'll track a Yusa down, see if it helps these issues. I need a new one anyway, the mechanic said the trickle charge was showing it really low. And the lights look dim on the gauges.
Title: Re: Power
Post by: scott_araujo on November 09, 2009, 06:04:25 AM
One tiny notch past lock is park, which is park with the lights on.  This will drain your battery.

Scott
Title: Re: Power
Post by: fouramdesigns on November 09, 2009, 06:21:51 AM
Quote from: scott_araujo on November 09, 2009, 06:04:25 AM
One tiny notch past lock is park, which is park with the lights on.  This will drain your battery.

Scott
lmao. I was late and in a hurry this morning. This all started a month ago, I got a flat, left the lights on while I was on the roadside, battery was drained, shop trickle charged, he said it looked pretty low. Cheap battery to begin with, I'm sure it's time for a new one.
Title: Re: Power
Post by: Howie on November 10, 2009, 03:40:45 AM
If you want to confirm the battery is bad, fully charge it and have a shop load test it.  If you want to replace it just for the hell of it, that is fine too.  A weak battery and electronic fuel injection can cause some strange symptoms, and changing a battery prematurely is not a bad idea.
Title: Re: Power
Post by: fouramdesigns on November 10, 2009, 05:14:22 AM
thanks for the input. Another odd issue I forgot to mention. When filling up, I start the bike, it backfires, a pop that seems at times to come from the throttle body. Only does this after I've filled up.
Title: Re: Power
Post by: fouramdesigns on November 11, 2009, 05:05:07 AM
funny thing, the battery was dead when I got off work. I had to roll up and down a hill before I jumped it. I put on the trickle charger, seems to be ok for now. Ordering a new battery Friday.