Ducati Monster Forum

Gonna demo a 675 tomorrow. Anybody have experience with em?  I really hope I don't like it more than my Monster.  Rode an 848 two weeks ago and hated it. Killed my wrists real quick.

I pitted with a guy last summer at Miller who had one. It was a nice bike. A tad slower than my 848...but just barely, and only noticeable on Miller's long ass straight.

I doubt it would be much more comfortable than an 848...but who knows. Heli Bars made a HUGE difference for comfort on my 848.

Don't do it man. You'll end up like me, counting pennies until you can get one.

hold on, i just jizzed. 675=omg.

If you can deal with not having the extra 8-10 hp, the monoblock brakes, and different headlight + exahust, id go for a used 06/07/08. they can be had for pretty cheap. 5500k.

Screw that the 09's are worth it.

Ahhhh I would stay away.  Once you crack the throttle on that thing the stupid grin on your face will reach your ears!

The motor on that bike is pure perfection.

Then don't test ride it...

 [popcorn]

I just sold mine.  It was a great bike, but I liked the V-twin punch too much.  Plus, the triple needs to rev to really sing.  It's no where near as bad as an I4, but it is much better on full boil. 

One thing though, their ergos are a bit more aggressive than the 848s that I have ridden.

Thanks everyone for their input.  My demo is at 2 pm today. Spent quite a bit of time last night staring at the Duc and wondering if the Triumph would satisfy me the same way. Guess I will find out this afternoon.  I have clip ons on the monster but they were nowhere as aggressive as the 848. I'm hoping the triumphs suspension isn't as stiff as the 848 but that may also have been lack of setup.  When I sat on it the sag was probably in the 1/4 - 1/2 inch range.  Very stiff. Also turn in sucked but that was probably just me.  What suprised me about the 848 was how cheap it felt while riding. Seemed to rattle over bumps and was quite disconcerting although I could probably also attribute this to the suspension set up. Anyways I'm waiting till two and almost hoping I don't like the 675.

One thing with the Daytona, turn in can be VERY quick depending on how the fork is set in the triples. I almost shit my pants the first time I went to throw mine into a turn and the bike felt like it was dropping straight to the ground.   [laugh]

That's all suspension set-up issues on the 848. They come set very stiff. I had mine adjusted 1/2 way thru my 1st trackday on it and it was like night and day!

+1. A friend of mine put an Ohlins shock (with correct spring for his weight) on his and he swears the difference is night and day.

I have a 675, and all I have to say is the punch that triple produces, is pure perfection.  As far as comfort, it depends on the rider but the riding position is very aggressive and will take some getting use to.  The positioning of the bike actually forces you downwards vs. sitting level, so you will need to use your legs to reduce the weight transfer.  All around great bike, I'm sure you will be coming home with a new bike after the demo.   [beer]

He probably will.  I almost wish I had not sold mine, but after sinking so much money into my SC (got it to where it handles better IMO than the Daytona) I just didn't see the need for two bikes that were focused in the same direction.  Sold it to get a KTM, put a deposit on an SD and then the wife hits me with news that she is moving out...  FML...

That sucks.  Yeh, I'm actually interested in the SC, and will prob. get one some day.  I'm actually selling my monster because it doesn't make sense to have two bikes and only ride one (the 675 is just too much fun).  Getting married soon is also a factor, or else I would keep the monster forever. 

Don't do it!!  lol

Maybe I'll tag along and watch the show

 [popcorn]

well at least you'll have more "you time" to enjoy your bikes  ;D

Hehe, I held off as long as I could.  I'm lucky that she likes motorcycles and doesn't mind me riding.  She has no idea how big my collection will get when/if I get out of the city and get into a house with a big a$$ garage. 

Best part about Ducaholic,  We are in for a "Real World" review.
And based on where he lives, he either has a thumb in the air right now, or his middle finger.

Poor salesman.  [laugh]

 [popcorn]

I personally think it is one of the better handling bikes on technical roads/track that I have ever ridden. And yes like some have said, suspension is where it's at  [thumbsup]
  The bike is Very compact, especially compared to the generous cockpit of the new Ducati SBK's.
I weight 148, 5'9" (69"), and have a wing span of 72". This bike is not made for everyone...not that any are, but if it fits...It's golden.

This coming from a guy that uses a 1098S as a touring bike, with no risers, no diff. seat, taller wind screen, etc....  Take it with a grain of salt.  :)   
 

I agree, if your body fits the bike then it is one hell of a fine ride and as said before, I almost wish I would not have sold mine. But the call for something different (new) beckoned and away it went.  I have a feeling that my decision would have been different if there had been a track to take it on, but alas the PRH does not allow such things.   

Best sports bike in that class...
Good price, good english quality and nice ergos even for the chubby ones.
I would take it anytime over a jap or even and 848

As long as he gets the black and gold I'll be fine with it.
(http://www.kawasakimotorcycle.org/forum/attachments/kawasaki-streetbikes-sportbikes/22290d1218728169-next-bike-thread-triumph_daytona_675.jpg)

Comparing the 675 to the 848 is pretty interesting.  I spent a fair amount of time on both and while I thought the Daytona was a slightly sharper scalpel, the 848 was a bit more comfortable and had a bit more power.  But, the 848 is a bit more damaging to the bank statement as well and costs a fair bit more to maintain that the 675 did.  Either way you can't go wrong as long as you take the time and effort to set them up right.


You would have to find a used '08 special edition model to get that color scheme.  I don't know how many were produced in total, but only two came down to the dealer here in Hawaii.  Mine was one of them.  ;)

(http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z53/b_upton/DSC_0033-1.jpg)

Not sure how much the OP weighs but the suspension on the 675 is pretty harsh too. I have an '09 in black (shame on you He Man for suggesting to not worry about the monoblocs and fully adjustable suspension! ;)) the stock spring is rated around 12.5, I weigh probably 165 with gear and should have 7.6 IIRC. Can you say ouch? I've had the spring replaced and it's noticeably better. Obviously replacing the suspension would be better still but it's not in the budget.

As far as comparing the 848 to the 675, there are some extensive reviews on triumph675.net from people who have both (I don't go there anymore because that site is now owned by Vertical Scope like TOB so make the beast with two backs them). I doubt you'll find the ergos on the 675 any better than the 848. It's a very aggressive position so I'm not sure you'll be happy with it. I still wonder if I'd have been happier with the Street Triple R which is basically a naked pre-09 675 with a re/de tuned engine.

The bike handles really well but as with any bike, you're not going to get the most out of it without getting the suspension set up for you.

And yes, the motor in the 675 is amazing. For me, it combines the fun off the line grunt of a twin and the high revving screaming HP of an I4. I missed the screaming from my GSX-R750 when I went to the S4RS but I don't miss that (motor wise) on the 675, there's big difference in torque obviously but I don't pine for the S4RS motor at all (even though with a race ECU & exhaust it was incredible).

If you want a comfortable sport bike, you want a GSX-R750. I know that's blasphemy to some but it really is an amazing combination of sporty handling and comfort. I rode from NYC to Montreal & back on one, I don't I'd be anywhere near as comfortable on either the 848 or 675. For the record, I have long arms so I'm not all that uncomfortable on the 675.

That was a make the beast with two backsing great post (even the statement about the 750, I love that bike)...period.

I still miss that bike a little:
(http://photos.toshcroft.com/Bikes/2007-01-02-06-GSX-R750/P1010692/147974161_SnsMX-L.jpg)

So...  What's the word?

 [popcorn]   [wine]

No blasphemy here, I would love to have a GSX-R750.

Sorry to keep you guys waiting.  So Greg (Sa_S2r) and I rode out to the dealership.  I didn't realize it was gonna be such a huge event. They had all the tents set up and quite a few good looking bikes. Didn't take any pics so I failed there. Anyways about the bike, it was a red 09.  I was actually very comfortable on the thing. On the 848 I felt like I was over the windscreen, the 675 felt perfect. The ride was nowhere near as harsh as the 848 and would be almost as soft as the monster if the sag was set correctly.  Riding the bike I couldn't beleive how smooth the engine was.  Didn't chug or surge at all, 848 surged quite a bit below 4k and this is with termis and dp ecu, triumph was stock.  Shifting was precise and positive except for nuetral which was difficult to find at first.  We did a 16 mile loop that was mostly straight with a few curves.  The bike didn't have much torque but that was expected.  The powerband was very linear and pleasant until 9 - 10,000 rpm and then the thing just ripped with an intoxicating raspiness. Awesome engine. Could be ridden all day at 5,000 rpm comfortably but comes alive after that.  Brakes were great, and right now with one finger on the lever and I liked the feel.  Turn in was rather telepathic and fast. The bike just feels light.  I was left yearning for more.

So I inquire as to how much they will give me for the monster as a trade in.  lets just say I was disappointed. I really like the Triumph but can't just give them the duc. My wife stopped by the dealership just to make sure I wasn't being stupid.  She also suggested we wait a few months so we could keep the monster and still get the triumph. Hmmm. Guess we will see what happens in a few months.

Gotcha covered on the pics, sorry for the quality of the iphone pics though.

I had a feeling the dealer was going to give you a crappy deal on the Monster. You've got three things working against you.
1) Soft economy, and the used bike market is saturated and there are good deals everywhere.
2) Bad time of year, a lot of riders are putting up their bikes until next year, although that does not necessarily apply so much down here in Texas.
3) The dealer will never give you crap for a trade in.

My advice would be to wait untill next Spring or Summer and sell the Duc privately. You might also want to wait until you've done a track day. I think part of your problem is you are not so much bored of the bike but would like something different. Also if you wait you might just be able to find the bike you want used instead of new.

Oops - forgot the pics.

First up is the bike that he really wanted, the Daytona SE with the blue frame, I'm not a big fan of white but even I liked this one.
(http://i354.photobucket.com/albums/r438/SA_S2R/Daytona675SE.jpg)
Then there is the Street Triple R which I really liked, but didn't care for the $12K price tag
(http://i354.photobucket.com/albums/r438/SA_S2R/StreetTripleR.jpg)

(http://i354.photobucket.com/albums/r438/SA_S2R/StreetTripleR_.jpg)
The there was this customised Speed Triple that I thought some of you folks would appreciate.
(http://i354.photobucket.com/albums/r438/SA_S2R/BritishTriple.jpg)

[puke]

This is true, they did a major suspension reworking on this bike for the '09 model year.  And you are right about the motor!  Damn those things are sweet when on full song.  I would have kept mad if we had a track.

Dude, $12K isn't that bad at all.  Look, you even get a free ballon! 

Well the guy who appraised my monster has never heard a dry clutch before. He almost shat himself when he started it.  That pretty much set the tone for the appraisal. But my wife did say if I wait a few months I can keep the duc and still get the triumph.  I like that option.  Hope she knows I'm still getting a dual sport too.

I know what you mean.  I see people react like that to dry clutches down here pretty often.  I rode my SC down to the dealer that had one of the KTMs that I was looking at.  I told the guy there was no way I would consider trading the Duc in but he still wanted to see/hear it.  He actually jumped a little when I fired it up.   [evil]

I still have a stock cover if you want to install that and quiet it down to help sell it.

By the way - what was the ridiculous price they offered for the trade in?

$2500.  I was almost insulted but then the used bike market isn't there right now.

I'm not finding where you said the year & model, what is it?

Not that any of them are worth only 2500, but just wondering.

That's about what I figured, it's always depressing to see what dealers give for trade ins.

I know that you probably have not considered it , but with the stupid pricing available on
a Buell 1125R you may want to consider one.

On top of being available for around 6K , insurance is next to nothing on them.

A friend just purchased one and it is a very capable bike

That's been mentioned and I have thought about it but they are just so damn ugly.

I think the side panels are $300 ,definitely helps with appearance although you can't see it when you are riding it.

Thats funny, I rode today with a friend that has had many Ducatis, and showed up today with his new 1125R with that body kit. WOW, what a difference.  He rolled into the parking lot at the base of the mountain we ride & people (Bike & race snobs) were wrapped around it to check it out.
Of course it's black (The fast color).   [laugh] 

Back on topic: Ducaholic, sounds like you can't lose in the long run  [thumbsup]
Thanks for the post ride report, that is what I think about that bike...except for the cockpit. I can see the headlights when I ride the 675, but I look like a praying mantis.  [cheeky]

Still would like to know what you ride.

I thought I mentioned it, guess not.  Its a 97 M900 with ferrachi high comps and all the trimmings.  Its getting up in mileage as its just turned 39k. Its in good shape but is starting to need some things. I would like to redo the suspension, its developing a few leaks including the verticle cylinder head gasket.  Needs a new cush drive and voltage regulator. All this stuff is easily doable but I'm afraid once I start its going to end up with a full teardown so I can paint the frame.

interesting.. priced at $9,599 at my dealership...

That's what I was thinking.  Any chance you were given the price for the Speed Triple?

+2 Sounds like a Speed Triple price.

 He was looking at the Street Triple "R"

Interesting thread.  I rented a 675 down at MMP to see what it's like, and I loved it.  My favorite supersport so far (I have tried the 848 or Ninja yet).  The brake were a little soft on the one I tried, and the transmission wasn't Honda-nice, but the engine was awesome and the suspension worked great for me.  Overall it felt like an easy bike to ride, even compared to the excellent Japanese 600s.

"R" or not, that is still pricey for a striple, even with the full Arrow kit.

That's what I thought

Here you go - a brand new one for only $7,295

 ;D

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Triumph-Daytona-675_W0QQitemZ310179305231QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_motorcycles?hash=item483820970f (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Triumph-Daytona-675_W0QQitemZ310179305231QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_motorcycles?hash=item483820970f)

Not a bad deal at all.

Just curious, but what are you looking to get for your bike ?  Doesn't sound like $2500 is a terrible trade in deal considering some minor work to be done, mileage, and the tax benifit?

I ALMOST got a 675, but didn't because it just wasn't hooligan enough.  I have only 1 bike and I wanted it to be naked and nasty.  The 675 is beautiful and I would love it as a second go-fast bike.

You know I wasn't even thinking about the tax benifit.  Hmmm. 
Ya'll aint helping.

It isn't a whole bunch, and not to discount your bike in anyway, I'm not familiar with it at all.  But if it's a stock 97 M900 that needs some work, you've got to be realistic in how much you'll get for it.  Besides, it's a fun purchase, so do what makes you happy (because the money will always sort itself out!).

Yeah It is starting to need some work.  I know the tax break wont' be much but its just one more reason to consider it.  Hmm.  Wifee did say I could keep the duc and still get the 675 if I wait 6 months.

I really liked the 675 when I test rode one a little over a year ago.

Fast bike, great brakes.  If I were getting a fully faired bike, it would be at the top of my list.

DO IT! 







;)

yup. "R" @ $9599...

 http://www.bmwpgh.com/new_vehicle_detail.asp?sid=07659876X11K12K2009J9I12I13JPMQ2016R0&veh=154166&CatDesc=Motorcycles&ModelYear=2010 (http://www.bmwpgh.com/new_vehicle_detail.asp?sid=07659876X11K12K2009J9I12I13JPMQ2016R0&veh=154166&CatDesc=Motorcycles&ModelYear=2010)

^

Thats where I bought my 675 in 06 :)