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Moto Board => Tech => Topic started by: junior varsity on November 15, 2009, 06:04:31 PM

Title: Alt Case Cover - Interchangeability
Post by: junior varsity on November 15, 2009, 06:04:31 PM
I have the big alternator (1999), 3 phase charging system. The bike is carb'd. What keeps me from using a newer alt-case cover? Charging system seems to be the same, shape is near-identical.

I don't have a water cooled bike so I'd be looking at any of the newer monsters or hypermotard or mag version of such. Can I just swap the 'lectrics and such and bolt it all up?

I have noticed there is an electric port or something on some newer alt covers, but not on the newest 2v's (like the hyper).

Example: (http://www.kaemna.de/pic/katalog/7819mag.jpg) (http://www.kaemna.de/cms_en/katalog.htm?&view=artikel&artikel=1862)
Note that it says it will, or could be made to work on any 2v with newer style (98+) charging system

Hypermotard - No plug coming out of case cover:
(http://www.motodisiac.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/ducati-hypermotard.jpg)

S2R-1000 - has plug coming out of case cover, perpendicularly:
(http://www.totalmotorcycle.com/photos/2007models/2007-Ducati-Monster-S2R1000b.jpg)

The current bizniss on my bike, complete with 'love-marks' (some rash when I went down a few years ago):
(http://lh6.ggpht.com/_4iYlZ1m8UEM/SupDB-_MPkI/AAAAAAAAEbk/ANyrzxoeixA/s800/IMG_1673.JPG)
Note the sealed up port where the S2R-1000 has a plug coming out of it...
Title: Re: Alt Case Cover - Interchangeability
Post by: junior varsity on November 15, 2009, 06:07:09 PM
Note the big hole in this one like the S2R-1000, where a plug would go:

(http://www.store.commoto.com/images/hypermotard-magnesium-cover.jpg)

Is that where the plug I have, that goes in 'laterally' is accommodated on newer bikes?
Title: Re: Alt Case Cover - Interchangeability
Post by: ducpainter on November 15, 2009, 06:48:08 PM
That hole is for the timing sensor on the newer bikes.

The earlier bikes had all the wires exiting the engine cases near the front.
Title: Re: Alt Case Cover - Interchangeability
Post by: Raux on November 15, 2009, 07:38:39 PM
Quote from: ducpainter on November 15, 2009, 06:48:08 PM
That hole is for the timing sensor on the newer bikes.

The earlier bikes had all the wires exiting the engine cases near the front.

696 has it in the front as well.
Title: Re: Alt Case Cover - Interchangeability
Post by: junior varsity on November 16, 2009, 04:28:49 AM
so, swappable?
Title: Re: Alt Case Cover - Interchangeability
Post by: 2001cromo on November 16, 2009, 04:49:23 AM
I don't "think" so, but you never know till you try.

I believe the shapes of the actual parts are different. The biggest give away to me is the little cover that goes over the end of the crank (where you'd screw the crank turning tool into). That's a completely different shape and knowing the past experiences I've had I'd expect the actual cover to be a different shape too.

What years do fit for sure you ask. Don't know for certain, but I'd expect anything pre 1000cc 2V to work. But I know there's a difference in 2P or 3P of where the window is on that side.

hope that's of some help
Title: Re: Alt Case Cover - Interchangeability
Post by: junior varsity on November 16, 2009, 05:15:27 AM
I've wondered about that small crank end cover in the midst of the case being a different size. I wouldn't think they would have changed it merely because they wanted a different look, but that's what I'm hoping now as I look for a replacement. I may end up getting a used one for somewhat inexpensive off eBay or Gotham Cycles to check fitment and post up my results (unless anyone has FHE)
Title: Re: Alt Case Cover - Interchangeability
Post by: He Man on November 16, 2009, 07:03:05 AM
im pretty sure you can get awya without it, but the new covers timing window is located in a different spot so you wouldnt be able to line up the dots in the timing window to find tdc.
Title: Re: Alt Case Cover - Interchangeability
Post by: junior varsity on November 16, 2009, 08:34:05 AM
From Ducat Kaemna -

Quote
hi josh ,
the side cover fits directly , but you must close the little whole
with a plate or plug or something like that .

that you must manufacture by yourself .

there are two threads directly beside so you can fit it .
sidecovers without this wholes dont excists.

  regards rüdiger
Title: Re: Alt Case Cover - Interchangeability
Post by: Raux on November 16, 2009, 10:21:49 AM
Quote from: ato memphis on November 16, 2009, 08:34:05 AM
From Ducat Kaemna -


what does he mean side covers without the hole doesn't exist? i have one.
Title: Re: Alt Case Cover - Interchangeability
Post by: junior varsity on November 16, 2009, 10:51:57 AM
I guess he means aftermarket mag ones, since it was in response to the mag one they sell
Title: Re: Alt Case Cover - Interchangeability
Post by: Raux on November 16, 2009, 12:20:03 PM
Quote from: ato memphis on November 16, 2009, 10:51:57 AM
I guess he means aftermarket mag ones, since it was in response to the mag one they sell


oh i have the DP one.

looking for a clutch case at a good price to match.