Ducati Monster Forum

Here are some preliminary images and some info... systems will be shipped to us around the start of the year.

We plan to carry them with stainless collectors and carbon silencers or titanium collectors and carbon silencers. Both will have the option of carbon end caps as shown. In the images the collectors are titanium and silencers are aluminum.

Price for stainless/carbon is $1999 and titanium/carbon is $2880.

I'd love to hear some opinions on this exhaust...

(http://mota-lab.com/images/full/DUCATI/zard-monster1100-1.jpg)

(http://mota-lab.com/images/full/DUCATI/zard-monster1100-2.jpg)

(http://mota-lab.com/images/full/DUCATI/zard-monster1100-3.jpg)

(http://mota-lab.com/images/full/DUCATI/zard-monster1100-4.jpg)

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they follow the lines PERFECTLY IMO.  Great work.  My only suggestion would be make a full system that doesn't route the front exhaust over the clutch but instead underneath like you know who has them.  For me personally, although I'm not buying an 1100 anytime soon, I'd like to have that option.

I didn't think you could make that bike uglier, but there you have it.

i love zards, but thats  [puke]

i have to say... i strongly dislike this exhaust.

Price isn't bad for a full system, is it?
It adds to the modern lines of the 1100.
You're going to sell to quite a few people [thumbsup]


(I'm not one of them, but that's not the point ;) )

Def. different...

it is unbelievably the price of motorcycle exhausts; for $3,000 i could have a complete set of custom burns stainless steel turbo headers. *shakes head*...

sorry for my soap box

  Wow, I like them!  [clap]  But they are pricier than Termignoni and still need a PCV.

Termis retail for $2837.80 for stainless/carbon - these are $1999... how did you get that these are more expensive? Termis are over $800 more expensive.

http://www.store.commoto.com/ducati-monster-1100-termignoni-carbon-full-system-p-4118.html (http://www.store.commoto.com/ducati-monster-1100-termignoni-carbon-full-system-p-4118.html)

Correct about the PCV or similar devise.

I love dealing with ZARD exhausts as they polarize people... almost nobody is indifferent; people either love or hate their exhausts.

Thanks for the feedback - keep it coming!

If I had of bought the 1100 this would have been the exhaust for me.
I love the angles and hard lines it has.

p.s. I also like the colours of the bike it's on, got any more pics of it?

There are a couple more images of the bike from the images I took while at EICMA in Milan.

http://www.facebook.com/pages/desmoworks/327276760563?v=photos#/album.php?aid=345938&id=327276760563 (http://www.facebook.com/pages/desmoworks/327276760563?v=photos#/album.php?aid=345938&id=327276760563)

This would look much better.


(http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa91/chiflado/zard5.jpg)

Those are the slip-ons for the Monster 696/1100. We have them in stock now, but with stainless tips. ZARD is going to be offering carbon tip kits so we can switch out the stainless. They look much better in carbon IMO and the quality of the carbon is fantastic!

  My bad, my eyes automatically went to $2880. But I would order titanium if given the option.

 Any info on that Carbon Fibre  fender eliminator in your photo album?

Cool exhausts, new idea but keeping the original concept. like the tall vertical slits of the exhaust. and cool they used the original routing to keep the underside clean and high ground clearance.

oh and wow,

new triples
new clipons
new brakes
new rearsets
new exhaust mounts (closer to the frame)
new short tail

did i miss anything?

fail.

They look exactly like the slipons for the triumph street triple.

I prefer the look of the Termis...

+1. 
On a seperate note, I'm not to keen on the canary on the fuel tank.

Those Termis that are $800 more expensive come with a $1000 DP ECU...

hmmm.

I actually kind of like them. on the newer monster.

those cans on an older bike would look silly, IMO

I love it. LOVE it.  Looks absolutely fantastic [thumbsup]. 

$2000 eh?

Gaarr-on get'em........ Ungeheuer I wanna see some here.

The DP ECU is almost useless on these bikes. It retains the O2 sensors so your still running closed loop in the same areas. You can get a PC for less than 1/3 the price and map the same areas the DP ECU does.

For the price difference of $800 you can go aftermarket and end up with a much better setup that allows for full open loop tuning and have a correctly running bike. Though most products that will work with the Seimens FI aren't out yet.

Nothing wrong with the Termis, we sell them too, but they aren't the only option worth looking at.

Sorry I don't have any info - metaltech owns the bike - you might contact them.
They are also the people who make all the billet parts on the bike.

http://www.metaltechracing.com/ (http://www.metaltechracing.com/)

the DP ECU does change the redline

I like it but not on this bike, I think it will look better on the more aggressive style bike like kawi z1000
(https://lh5.ggpht.com/_EcO6je_QZhE/Sw3ufktlCQI/AAAAAAAAAqc/skHu8GHvNaA/s800/2010_Kaw_Z1000_side.jpg)

like the shape from back,
but side is a bit weak.

would love to hear the sound tho!!

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Nemesis will unite us all.  After all it kicks both PC and DP ECU.

ok what is the cost of the nemesis?

Do those pipes turn into eyebrows on the face when it transforms to robot form?

A LOT but if you're competitively racing it's worth every dime or if you want a totally separate system that you can mod.  No 'piggy back' systems or putting up with emission controls.  AND NO I'm neither a dealer or owner but have seen the thing in the dyno room and the results surprised me (disclaimer: I'm no mechanic or anything remotely close to it).  I'm thinking I heard in the $1200 range but I may be off a few hundred.  Either way I watched the program features and all it's capable of doing and thought it was worth every penny.  One day I'll have one.   [thumbsup]

The other issue is that all the nemesis i saw are made for the MM bikes. the new 1100 and 696 are Siemens ECUs

Microtec. They make the software for Nemesis I believe, and their newest model has the best of both worlds. My bike was tuned with one the other day.

http://www.microtec.cc/cms/en/component/content/article/18 (http://www.microtec.cc/cms/en/component/content/article/18)

I love the Zards, but clearly I'm biased.
(http://lh6.ggpht.com/_wOZuAIM4OIA/Si7gCj6lrwI/AAAAAAAABxU/WgANvsLqKGc/s800/New%20Exhaust%203.jpg)

they fit better than Termis.  I know, blasphemy but I have the Termis on the wife's 800 and helped a buddy put them on his 800 and it came together much nicer.  I like the exhaust tips more than anything and the way the pipes bend on Zards.

I'm a Zard fan as well, but I don't care for those new ones.

(http://i354.photobucket.com/albums/r438/SA_S2R/2Ducs.jpg)

I think they look amazing, and for being a full system, they definitely look better than the full termis, no pipe underneath!


but, i have termis, and i love them mucho

I dig the angles +1

 [thumbsup]

Nemesis destroys all, but unfortunately it (and microtec) don't work for the M696 and M1100. As pointed out the fuel systems are Seimens not Marelli. A LOT of the new bikes are starting to get Seimens systems - it is my understand that all of the Ducati lineup will be switched over in time, but that has not been confirmed.

I'm sure there will be some new tuning devices popping up over time. Seimens is a very common system so I'm guessing there are already some devices capable that are being used in car land.

 [puke]

I believe Microtec is already working on it.

When I met with them 3 weeks ago they said they weren't, but maybe they didn't want to tell me.

Does anyone know if it's possible to use the headers and midpipe from the Zard system with the slip on Termi system?  I like the routing of the stock pipes and the look of the Termi slip on system but I really want to get a fully breathing system.

I very highly doubt that this would be possible.

The Termi slip-ons for the S4R (desmoquattro)/S2R-800 (maybe the 1000 too) use 40 mm pipes and the Zard uses 45 mm.

does zard make a round can that you can put on with that midpipe, so that it looks liek the arrow exhaust?

basically i think the midpipe looks good but the shape fo the new zards not the best, the arrow aftermarket i think look the best so far on the 1100, though i would probably like the sound of the termi the best.. if only termi would stop making hte megaphone style look.

So... I really like this Zard system.... BUT... if there's nothing on the market to manage fuelling and/or deal with lack of lambda sensors and lack of dumb-arse flapper valve... why tease me with it, hmmm? 

Gimme a fuelling solution to consider and then..... well....  [evil]

There's some stuff in the works... manufacturers are just slow! There are NO good fueling solutions for these bikes right now. The ECU that comes with the Termi is not great as it retains the O2 sensors, but it is the best available right now. There will be more stuff in the future especially as Ducati moves towards all Siemens.

(http://mota-lab.com/images/full/DUCATI/zard-monster1100-3.jpg)

The more I looked at this exhaust.... the less I liked it.  Today - 4 months on from my first comment - me no like at all. 

Weird, eh  :-\.

i think its on the wrong bike, i want to see a picture of it a shiny black model. And, you need to hear it, i assume it sounds ridiculous.

ZARD Ducati Monster 1100 Full Exhaust System (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKFAVvE_xoU#normal)