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Title: Frame sliders / Crash Bungs...easy to fit? Best brand?
Post by: Lukey on May 27, 2008, 03:42:47 PM
Thinking this is an investment I should make for my '04 S4R.  The bike already has a thousand parts hanging off of it, so frame sliders aren't likely to make it look more cluttered.

Anybody have favorites?  What is known as the "best", if there is such a thing?  And is there any reason I wouldn't want to put them on?  Thanks and talk to you soon, Luke


Title: Re: Frame sliders / Crash Bungs...easy to fit? Best brand?
Post by: teddy037.2 on May 27, 2008, 03:45:55 PM
a much debated topic.

I like my cyclecats, even though they're big and ugly. they also paid for themselves after my low-speed highside  [thumbsup]


Title: Re: Frame sliders / Crash Bungs...easy to fit? Best brand?
Post by: mxwinky on May 27, 2008, 11:04:45 PM
Just put Speedymoto sliders on both my Multistrada and my S4RS and it only took about 15-20 minutes to install each set.  Fit was perfect, they're not too gangly, and the red logo on the black slider makes for a good color combo.  I definitely think they're a worthwhile mod and the Speedymotos are a nice product.


Title: Re: Frame sliders / Crash Bungs...easy to fit? Best brand?
Post by: Bizzarrini on May 28, 2008, 01:05:19 AM
Hi Guys!

Anyone ever used these?
http://www.rg-racing.com/browseBike/Ducati/Monster/1994/CP0149BL.aspx
These are the only ones my dealer sells, and I was wondering about your experiences! After a bit of reading on the net, I learned there are two types of sliders: the ones that break under large stress, and the ones that don't (duh). The reasoning behind the breaking is not to damage the engine and frame. Cyclecat used to make both types, but discontinued the rigid ones due to lack of demand (probably true for the rest of the line too, since they vanished?). No idea in which category the R&G slider fall!

Cheers!


Title: Re: Frame sliders / Crash Bungs...easy to fit? Best brand?
Post by: MotoPsycho on May 28, 2008, 05:33:05 AM
Just put Speedymoto sliders on both my Multistrada and my S4RS and it only took about 15-20 minutes to install each set.  Fit was perfect, they're not too gangly, and the red logo on the black slider makes for a good color combo.  I definitely think they're a worthwhile mod and the Speedymotos are a nice product.

+1 I really like my speedymoto sliders.


Title: Re: Frame sliders / Crash Bungs...easy to fit? Best brand?
Post by: numbskull on May 28, 2008, 08:50:50 AM
Just put Speedymoto sliders on both my Multistrada and my S4RS and it only took about 15-20 minutes to install each set.  Fit was perfect, they're not too gangly, and the red logo on the black slider makes for a good color combo.  I definitely think they're a worthwhile mod and the Speedymotos are a nice product.

I have a question about installation. Do you recommend a professional do the install or can any weekend mechanic do it at home with a few basic tools?


Title: Re: Frame sliders / Crash Bungs...easy to fit? Best brand?
Post by: Mduc on May 28, 2008, 10:38:31 AM
Speedymoto   [thumbsup]


Title: Re: Frame sliders / Crash Bungs...easy to fit? Best brand?
Post by: JoDuc on May 28, 2008, 11:35:18 AM
I have a question about installation. Do you recommend a professional do the install or can any weekend mechanic do it at home with a few basic tools?

+1


Title: Re: Frame sliders / Crash Bungs...easy to fit? Best brand?
Post by: faolan01 on May 28, 2008, 12:17:06 PM
installing the sliders is something any weekend wrench can do. I'm going to guess that the instructions are the same for all, but I know that with mine it was simply "Prop bike upright. Remove rubber plugs. Remove nut from right side. Insert slider into frame. Use rubber mallet to pound in slider bolt (the slider bolt drove the original bolt out in the process). Put on left slider. Torque down nuts. Ride." It took me about 15 minutes, including greasing the slider bolt and rechecking the instruction page over and over to make sure I wasn't going to screw anything up, from the time I put the bike up on the rear stand to the time I took it back down. I also grabbed the jack from the back of my car to put under the side of the engine in case I needed to prop the engine itself up at all to get the bolt through, but in my case it turned out to be unnecessary (YMMMV).

I also put the side of a small board against the bolt and hit that with the mallet to give myself a bigger target, and used the original engine bolt (once it was knocked out) to finish driving the slider bolt into the right side slider. Oh, and I had a buddy hold the bike because I was afraid hitting the bolt too hard and knocking the bike over ;)


Title: Re: Frame sliders / Crash Bungs...easy to fit? Best brand?
Post by: teddy037.2 on May 28, 2008, 01:07:13 PM
IIRC, I used a block of wood and a car jack to rest just under the engine, since the engine mount bolt is what you're removing.

but that was many moons ago.


Title: Re: Frame sliders / Crash Bungs...easy to fit? Best brand?
Post by: numbskull on May 28, 2008, 02:40:09 PM
installing the sliders is something any weekend wrench can do. I'm going to guess that the instructions are the same for all, but I know that with mine it was simply "Prop bike upright. Remove rubber plugs. Remove nut from right side. Insert slider into frame. Use rubber mallet to pound in slider bolt (the slider bolt drove the original bolt out in the process). Put on left slider. Torque down nuts. Ride." It took me about 15 minutes, including greasing the slider bolt and rechecking the instruction page over and over to make sure I wasn't going to screw anything up, from the time I put the bike up on the rear stand to the time I took it back down. I also grabbed the jack from the back of my car to put under the side of the engine in case I needed to prop the engine itself up at all to get the bolt through, but in my case it turned out to be unnecessary (YMMMV).

I also put the side of a small board against the bolt and hit that with the mallet to give myself a bigger target, and used the original engine bolt (once it was knocked out) to finish driving the slider bolt into the right side slider. Oh, and I had a buddy hold the bike because I was afraid hitting the bolt too hard and knocking the bike over ;)

Thanks for the detailed info. Sounds very easy to do. My chief concern was the engine falling out of the frame.  [thumbsup]


Title: Re: Frame sliders / Crash Bungs...easy to fit? Best brand?
Post by: somegirl on May 28, 2008, 07:49:18 PM
Hi Guys!

Anyone ever used these?
http://www.rg-racing.com/browseBike/Ducati/Monster/1994/CP0149BL.aspx
These are the only ones my dealer sells, and I was wondering about your experiences! After a bit of reading on the net, I learned there are two types of sliders: the ones that break under large stress, and the ones that don't (duh). The reasoning behind the breaking is not to damage the engine and frame. Cyclecat used to make both types, but discontinued the rigid ones due to lack of demand (probably true for the rest of the line too, since they vanished?). No idea in which category the R&G slider fall!

Cheers!

Yes, I have these on my bike.  They did very well in a low speed crash (the plastic got ground down and protected the rest of the bike).  I also have their bar-end sliders (same effect in the same crash) and fork sliders.


Title: Re: Frame sliders / Crash Bungs...easy to fit? Best brand?
Post by: He Man on May 28, 2008, 09:39:49 PM
Rizoma Sliders

http://www.pjsparts.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=56


Title: Re: Frame sliders / Crash Bungs...easy to fit? Best brand?
Post by: mxwinky on June 01, 2008, 08:46:38 AM
Just to put your fears to rest, your engine will not fall out of the frame.  Can't happen.  The only thing that can happen is that there can be a very tiny amount of movement which will make it harder to get the new slider bolt into the frame/engine cases.  That's why it's advisable to drive the original out slightly and then use your new slider bolt to both drive out the original the rest of the way and drive itself in place.  A jack placed under the engine and very gently raised is a nice help here as it totally prevents any movement of the engine.  But fear not, the engine is held in by more than just the upper mount and will never fall out.  Totally easy to install and very doable by most home mechanics.  Good luck!


Title: Re: Frame sliders / Crash Bungs...easy to fit? Best brand?
Post by: CairnsDuc on June 04, 2008, 04:38:47 PM
I have the SpeedyMotos, very easy to fit, Took all of 10 Mins, I hate the look of frame sliders, but I put them on to allow for the Dickhead factor where I work, It's sits out the front of a large Electrical retailer all day at the main entrance, I can see it from my position running the print lab, and so far (knock on wood) no one has touched it.
But I put them on just incase some Tool throws a leg over or some kid gives it a shove, they should stop mega damage from a simple tumble.


Title: Re: Frame sliders / Crash Bungs...easy to fit? Best brand?
Post by: somegirl on June 04, 2008, 08:27:09 PM
Yes, I have these on my bike.  They did very well in a low speed crash (the plastic got ground down and protected the rest of the bike).  I also have their bar-end sliders (same effect in the same crash) and fork sliders.

Pictures of my R&G Racing frame, fork and bar-end sliders:

(http://paularickert.net/albums/userpics/Keigwins_2007-10-07B.JPG)

(http://paularickert.net/albums/userpics/Keigwins_2007-10-07G.JPG)


Title: Re: Frame sliders / Crash Bungs...easy to fit? Best brand?
Post by: corey on June 05, 2008, 05:05:21 PM
 [thumbsup] Lookin' Good!
I might invest in some of those. The r&g sliders seem to have the length i was looking for... The speedymotos are dead sexy too...


Title: Re: Frame sliders / Crash Bungs...easy to fit? Best brand?
Post by: mstevens on June 30, 2008, 08:32:38 PM
Nice pics!

Somebody's bound to say something about the reflectors, but it won't be me.


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