I get a lot of pleasure about pundits making wild predictions, and then being called on it later. This is a giant, heaping plateful of crow (http://brainstormtech.blogs.fortune.cnn.com/2009/12/01/the-great-iphone-death-watch/) for those who predicted the iPhone would be a categorical failure.
“Apple is slated to come out with a new phone… And it will largely fail."
Michael Kanellos, CNET, 7 December 2006
OK.
And in other news recent rumors from Bologna signal that Ducati is making a motard. [coffee]
Quote from: il d00d on December 02, 2009, 10:01:41 AM
I get a lot of pleasure about pundits making wild predictions, and then being called on it later.
Untill Verizon pics it up, it will still be a failure where I live and work because AT&T sucks.
and..
Unless they become the only phone available... I will not own one.
Well, I guess my point was more like "look at this list of hilariously wrong predictions about the iPhone" and not so much "look how awesome it is". I don't own one, but my wife may soon - I am trying to push her in the direction of the Droid on account of the network problems (not so much here in Houston) others have experienced. That's kind of a gamble though - I am afraid that while Verizon can handle Droid traffic today, it may have trouble handling Droid and iPhone traffic with the same infrastructure.
i think more important people have made more important predictions, and been equally wrong.
the weatherman does it all the time.
Quote from: Rev. Millertime on December 02, 2009, 10:20:23 PM
and..
Unless they become the only phone available... I will not own one.
+1
I am a 100% RIM supporter
Why so serious? Making fun of pundits -- especially internet/tech pundits who know that their every bleat is recorded for posterity and instantly Google-accessible -- is good fun & good sport. As a dedicated late-adopter, I'm still happy with a dumb phone that mostly just makes dumb calls, but even I can see that the iPhone is the one making the market right now, and that's pretty far from the "largely fail" prognostication...
And just because I found if funny, from http://xkcd.com/ (http://xkcd.com/):
(http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/iphone_or_droid.png)
I've been a apple macintosh user since I was a kid (thanks dad) and an iPhone owner since it came out and just like any other apple product I own I can't believe how I've lived my whole life without them. [laugh] The iPhone is an amazing innovation that once again has changed many things and created new markets. The droid looks really cool too def.
I'm with Cyrus on the Blackberry. It does what I need it to.
Re: Networks. I used to be a Nextel customer. After Sprint bough them, service began to degrade. I switched to Verizon and service has been very good in terms of coverage area, data rates, etc. The soothes my conscience a little about dealing with such a large bureaucracy.
http://www.theonion.com/content/news/new_device_desirable_old_device (http://www.theonion.com/content/news/new_device_desirable_old_device)
QuoteNew Device Desirable, Old Device Undesirable - December 3, 2009 | Issue 45•49
SEATTLEâ€"With the holiday shopping season officially under way, millions of consumers proceeded to their nearest commercial centers this week in hopes of acquiring the latest, and therefore most desirable, personal device.
"The new device is an improvement over the old device, making it more attractive for purchase by all Americans," said Thomas Wakefield, a spokesperson for the large conglomerate that manufactures the new device. "The old device is no longer sufficient. Consumers should no longer have any use or longing for the old device."
Added Wakefield, "The new device will retail for $395."
Able to remain operational for longer periods of time and occupy a demonstrably smaller three-dimensional space, the new device is so advanced when compared to the old device that it makes the old device appear much older than it actually is. However, the new device is reportedly not so radically different as to cause confusion or unwanted anxiety among those familiar with the feel of the old device.
"Its higher price indicates to me that it is superior, and that not everyone will be able to afford it, which only makes me want to possess it more," said Tim Sturges, owner of the old device, which he obtained 18 months ago when it was still the new device. "I feel a strong urge to purchase the new device. Owning the new device will please me and improve my daily life."
"It's difficult to remember how I ever found enjoyment in my old device," Sturges continued. "It is no longer appealing to the eye."
In addition to aesthetic and technological enhancements, manufacturers claim the new device comes equipped with a wide range of desirable features, including fewer buttons for pressing down and holding; a new wire for connecting to larger, less-portable devices; and fewer device-related errors and frustrations.
The new device will also be available in blue.
"Not only will I be able to perform tasks faster than before, but my new device will also inform those around me that I am a successful individual who is up on the latest trends," said Rebecca Hodge, whose executive job allowed her to line up for several hours in the middle of the day in order to obtain the previously unavailable item. "Its attractiveness and considerable value are, by extension, my attractiveness and considerable value."
Consumer Robert Larson agreed.
"I'm going to take my new device wherever I go," said Larson, holding the expensive item directly in the eyeline of several reporters. "That way no one on the street, inside the elevator, or at my place of business will ever mistake me for the sort of individual who does not own the new device."
Added Larson, "The new device brings me satisfaction."
Despite the visible excitement among most consumers, some claimed to be exercising caution, choosing instead to sit back and wait for a newer version of the new device to be released before making a purchase.
"True, it appeals to my most basic insecurities, but this new device will ultimately be replaced by a newer device, rendering it completely undesirable and utterly repellent to my personal tastes," device-enthusiast Ryan Janosch said. "Also, I should start saving my money for the next latest device, which will replace the newer new device a couple months after that
I broke the screen on my iphone yesterday. They want $200 to replace the phone. :-X The last few months my bill has been $150 and I don't talk on the phone that much. So I bought a Droid Eris and went back to Verizon. My phone bill for both my wifes phone and mine will be less then the iphone bill. The phone is a bit smaller too. I may go back to an iphone when verizon has them but never with ATT again.
Quote from: hbliam on December 03, 2009, 08:57:44 PM
I broke the screen on my iphone yesterday. They want $200 to replace the phone. :-X The last few months my bill has been $150 and I don't talk on the phone that much. So I bought a Droid Eris and went back to Verizon. My phone bill for both my wifes phone and mine will be less then the iphone bill. The phone is a bit smaller too. I may go back to an iphone when verizon has them but never with ATT again.
there's a lot of great places online that sell iPhone parts and also offer repair servces most times waaay cheaper than buying a new one or replacing it.... Although sometimes worth paying the replacement cost if it'll bump you up a generation... As for the ATT bill, unlock & jailbreak it and you can use it with any carrier. I've had mine with Tmobile since it came out and it's great!
PM me if you want some links and instructions on how to jailbreak and unlock iPhones. Everything is online, Everything you can download for free and everything you can do yourself in a Mac or PC probably in less than 35mins depending on how long it takes to backup your iPhone (how mny apps, etc).
Until the iphone can work as a deluxe ipod touch w/ prepaid service, I'm out. I don't generally like people and rarely use my phone, so I roll prepaid. I pay $20 every three months and have about a hundred bucks balance on my phone because I don't want to talk to anyone.
I do have an ipod touch and use it a lot.
Quote from: redxblack on December 08, 2009, 06:23:46 PM
Until the iphone can work as a deluxe ipod touch w/ prepaid service, I'm out. I don't generally like people and rarely use my phone, so I roll prepaid. I pay $20 every three months and have about a hundred bucks balance on my phone because I don't want to talk to anyone.
I do have an ipod touch and use it a lot.
1) it'll never happen
2) why would you want it to?
never is a pretty long time. once the iphone is a dead technology (or at least dying), perhaps. I'm in no rush. I have my phone for emergency use and if the ipod could make calls, I'd have one less thing to carry and make sure it was charged up.
i have found that the folks who are obsessed with the iphone are usually trend followers. my sister in law and her husband, cases in point. they would have a penis grafted onto their foreheads if everyone else was doing it.
the iphone is interesting, but for 90% of users, it is just an expensive replacment bill waiting to happen. i need a phone for two main purposes: long talk time and the ability to use it as a hockey puck, because i drop mine all the time.
i have a blackberry flip and i regret it. i like the keyboard, but it is too fragile for me. my last phone (samsung something or other) survived not one but TWO 60mph skid trips when i dropped it riding the bike. somehow, they work their way out of my pocked to escape.
Quote from: ducatiz on December 09, 2009, 07:45:20 AM
they would have a penis grafted onto their foreheads if everyone else was doing it.
There's an app for that.
Quote from: redxblack on December 09, 2009, 07:50:05 AM
There's an app for that.
Jajajajajajaja :D
I agree a lot of people dont even use 25% of the Iphone's potential, heck most people dont even read the manual for anything they buy..... Then you have them sayin' "God, I wish this thing could do this, it'd make my life easier". Well dumb ass, read the F**** manual so you know what it can and cant do! But speaking from my own personal experience, to ME my iphone is indispensable and having a little (limited) mac on the palm of my hand which talks and plays nice with absolutely everything else I have is invaluable (even control protools or logic pro right from my phone), so.... I dont know what I would do without it, I can remember a time when I used to carry around a laptop to do 85-90% of the things I get done on my iphone today. But hey, to each its own.....
Also Id rather have people buying it out of trend and getting a hang of it so the industry keeps developing the technology and similar platforms as well as content delivery systems evolving than to STILL be stuck with Nokia and Motorola because most people are lazy assses who dont even know what an SMS is and how to send/receive them..... Woaaahhhhwwwww MAGIC.....
And please dont tell me that all that same people (trend followers) weren't the ones who would also go out and buy the latest Motobullshit phones, buttpebble crack, etc etc etc...... At least now they're getting a great product that is still great even if they're mentally retarded and cant figure out how to use it.... Dont look at the 35+ crowd, look at the young generations that have such an amazing tool in their everyday life, for school/university, apps that help at work, podcasts, itunes U, any info at the tip of your finger, or online search, etc etc etc come on man! It is exponential growth.... Look at what kids are doing with iphones, using the accelerometer and such to send wireless controls to a full size car they hacked and driving it from a phone! What were you or your generation doing back then? Punching holes in cards and making shure they were in the right order so you could see a triangle dot move around the screen and draw a box or some lame chess game? Ohhh, not even I bet...... Playing Tron over Telnet? [laugh]
Say whatever you say, just like now we can start to see the impact the ipod has had on the music industry (and how it shifted the paradigm) and customer sales, etc etc etc just like the sony walkman back in the 80's...... Perhaps by 2015 well be able to look back at the Iphone and say "Jesus did that shake things up or what?" Youll see, I hate to say it.....
As far as the ATT Bill goes, Ive had an iphone since it first came out and Ive never ever ever been an ATT customer, I have mine with Tmobile. Again, seek and you shall find. There's always workarounds to having to bend over to a corporation and taking it all in...... But again you need to be on the more active/bright minded side of things to figure that out and DIY.......
Not trying to offend anyone here, so please dont take it the wrong way..... Just trying to give a diff. perspective of the same thing....... ;)
And just to piss some more people off....... [evil]
Apple Rules & Long Live Steve Jobs!!!! hahahahahahahaha [cheeky]
Quote from: preynoso on December 09, 2009, 02:58:17 PM
heck most people dont even read the manual for anything they buy.....
I didn't even read your post. :D
Meh, Useful sure-indispensable? I doubt it. Looking at the younger generations, most of 'em just use 'em to make the beast with two backs off in meetings and play videogames in class.
I liken it to the internet-most powerful search tool ever for any sort of knowledge one could ever want.
What does 99% of the population do with it? Order stuff they're too lazy to go get and look at porn.
Quote from: MrIncredible on December 09, 2009, 04:36:16 PM
Meh, Useful sure-indispensable? I doubt it. Looking at the younger generations, most of 'em just use 'em to make the beast with two backs off in meetings and play videogames in class, daaagnabbit!
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