Ducati Monster Forum

Does anyone have pictures of a 695 from the rear?  I had a mishap where my buddie's bike hit the back of my bike and I'm not sure if one of the cans has been bent (along with the rearset).  They seem to offset, with the left side being closer to the bike than the right side.  I will post some pics of my bike as soon as I finish eating tonight.  I just want to know if I need to take care of something on my bike, or if it has always been like that.  Thanks for any pics, guys.  The night has been weird and bad enough, my buddie's bike got F$%#$ed and I just want to asses anything that happened to mine. 

Can't help you with pictures, but find riding buddies that don't attempt stoppies into the back of you.

It was a bad incident.  I can't fully blame him for it, but I just wish it hadn't happened.  Still any pics would be great from anyone else.

Can't you just look at yourself?

The cans and rearsets should be the same distance from the swingarm

Did you end up going down?

No, I didn't go down.  He did and broke off the footpeg and shifter.  I felt a bump but it didn't feel really forceful.  I looked at the cans and they are not exactly the same distance from the swingarm, the left one is closer, but the swingarm is not symmetrical so I wasn't sure if that played a role.  Crap.  Sux.  Frick.

Why isn't your swingarm symmetrical? You are on a DSS, yes? Its two straight bars connected like a U where the shock mounts...

The pipes should be the same-ish distance from the ground at the beginning of the pipe, at the end of the pipe, and horizontally away from the swingarm (better to measure from the frame instead since the pipes are connected to the headers/rearsets, which are connected to the motor which is essentially the frame.)

On my bike, the left side of the DSS angles inward toward the engine, while the right side is just a straight bar.  I've got a couple pics, I'll upload them now.

(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f215/instaphd/IMAGE_374.jpg)
(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f215/instaphd/IMAGE_375.jpg)
Notice how the DSS is not totally constructed symmetrically.

ah yes. it does go in horizontally at the cases.

Arg, my bike was pristine before this...

don't worry, you'll add more character to it in the future too.

Do you think I am just being way too anal retentive about this?  I went outside and tried to bend the rearset in the direction it seems to need to go, but it really doesn't bend very easily at all.  He must have hit me harder than I thought.  He said for sure he hit my left can, not my wheel.  I guess it's a damn good thing I don't have the Termi's yet, or I might have been really mad.

If you still have the standard rearsets, don't try too hard to bend them back, snap they will.  :-\

Don't get too anal about distance from the swing arm.

Use the wheel as a guide.

Chances are the rearset is fine and it's all in the mounting for the can.

I measured the distance from the rear wheel hugger to the rearset passenger footpeg mounts and both were 3.5"+-.125".  That's pretty close.  I'm guessing it might be the mounts for the cans, as you mentioned.  I'm going to check on it again in the morning because it's dark and it's getting frustrating to try to look at it. 
The whole ordeal really sucked.  I don't want to blame my buddy, but he was way too close to me and we were on a side road coming into a parking lot, not even going fast.  I baby my monster to the maxx, and I'm really stressing about it having to take abuse that I didn't dish to it.  I mean, if it's gona get messed up, I at least want to be the one to have done it!  Oi.
I will report back in the morning with some measurements to see if they are within what you guys would consider normal tolerances.  As you said, ducpainter, I will make the measurements to the wheel.

Like ShamWOW! said, the bracket is cast and won't move much without breaking.  If you need to measure, it is close enough. 

Check on the spacers between the rear sets and the frame. You might find the right hand has some or they are thicker. Remember n the stock config they make some space for the emissions can

That's why I was doubting myself about the spacing.  I took my emissions canister off and I didn't know if something was offset to accommodate it.  That's why I was posting this thread, to see if anyone else with M695 noticed an offset.

I'm really confused...I went out this morning and popped off the rear hugger to do some measurements.  From the passenger peg mounts to the closest edge of the wheel, both sides were 4.25"+-.125".  That's pretty freakin close, even in my book of anal retentiveness.  So I feel a bit better.  There's no denying from a quick visual inspection that the cans are not symmetrical.  I guess I will just have to live with it until I get my Termi's.
I saw the picture of the M695 with the low mount MIVV's previously posted on this thread when I was doing an internet search for images.  They look perfectly symmetrical...I want that symmetry.
I noticed there is an aluminum spacer on the right side can mount where the emissions canister used to go and ironically, the side with the spacer is farther from the swingarm than the the left side.  The whole thing is giving me a headache...
I just need to man up and get the new exhaust.  Do the Termi's run straight through from the cyclinders and eliminate the super-ultra-stupid udder?
If anyone has any pictures or tips to add on what I could check on my bike since the impact, I would still really appreciate it.  Just as a reminder, the M696 hit the back of my leftside can going about 20mph.

What udder? You have a 695. Yours goes: engine heads-->headers-->pipes

Your bike doesn't have the udder as far as I know. The S*R bikes have udders. Example:
(http://www.carpimoto.com/Images/Products/zoom/r%5Crz_MR_Z.jpg)

Udder: behind the engine, in front of the rear wheel, below the rearsets

I thought that 4 way connector on the pipes was the udder and the thing on the S*R's was the ballsack.  Maybe I'm just confused.

No. That's a header. Sometimes referred to as a collector. There's not much hope for improvement on a 695, I don't believe anyone made a spaghetti setup for you. That being said, the stock pipe design really isn't all that bad, since the pipes do connect, allowing the benefits of the pulsing system. Pure straight pipes without a crossover don't flow as well as those that do.

Oh OK, so the Termi's actually retain that collector.  I was under false impressions.  I'm not looking for much power improvement, I just want the noise (and now, symmetrical cans).  I have been considering chop/coring the cans since the Termi's seem to always be a bit too expensive for me.

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Its the difference between a full system and slip-ons. Slip-ons are a direct muffler replacement. The Full System replaces the whole kit and kaboodle. It also costs far more.

I've got my eye out for Termi replacements for my stock cans.  Still contemplating chop/core.
I guess I'm just going to forget about the crookedness and see what the other guys that have 695's bikes look like.  Also gona show it to the dealer and see if he sees anything I didn't.  Thanks for all the great advice!  This forum is killer!

I just took a quick look at the rear of my 695 and it pretty much looks the same as yours does in the pics.
The swingarm is indeed not symmetric and if your measurements from the wheel to the cans are the same...
Don't worry, ride !

Nice, thanks for taking time to compare yours.

get these... http://www.desmoworks.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=405&products_id=483 (http://www.desmoworks.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=405&products_id=483)

(http://www.desmoworks.com/images/ncr-monster-oval.jpg)

(http://home.comcast.net/~c.duarte/monster695f.jpg)

I have them on mine, they are really light at 4.5lbs each, fit nicely and are very well constructed. And titanium is much sexier than carbon...

To be honest, I love the sound of my chopped cans now.  If I have a fueling problem, I will need to move to slip-ons, but otherwise, right now...GRAVY!