I am going to do "filter autopsies" on oil filters. I need a sample of these common ones that are made for Ducati:
( already have done a Ducati filter, see post)
If you use any of these, please PM me, I'll update list as I get them.
Fram PH6019
HiFlo 153
KN-153
Amsoil EaOM138C or EaOM138B (or no letter too)
NAPA 7013 / WIX 57013
Perf-Form OF-0008 (formerly DUC-1)-- i wonder if these are identical?
Athena FFP011
Baldwin B7292
etc
You're really on a roll [thumbsup] Do you specifically want used filters or would a donated new one be OK? I have a HiFLo that I was going to open up to compare it with a new style stock filter (with the crappy silkscreened graphics) but I could mail it to you.
Oh hell yes. I didn't think people would be as willing to give up clean filters. I MUCH prefer new ones!
PM sent. I'd be ashamed to send off a dirty old oil filter and I'm happy to donate a new filter or two. I've received a lot more from this board than I've ever put back so it's a good cause. I'd also think some of our well heeled businessmen members like Ducpainter and Speeddog would be willing to donate a filter. ;D
Quote from: Langanobob on December 12, 2009, 04:49:28 AM
PM sent. I'd be ashamed to send off a dirty old oil filter and I'm happy to donate a new filter or two. I've received a lot more from this board than I've ever put back so it's a good cause. I'd also think some of our well heeled businessmen members like Ducpainter and Speeddog would be willing to donate a filter. ;D
well heeled?
[laugh] [laugh] [laugh] [laugh] [laugh] [laugh] [laugh] [laugh]
He thinks you have nice feet?
What about Baldwin? I can send you a new one, or in the spring i can send you a used one.
I'm supposed to find a Hastings too
Quote from: RB on December 14, 2009, 10:51:18 AM
What about Baldwin? I can send you a new one, or in the spring i can send you a used one.
Quote from: ducpainter on December 14, 2009, 10:54:50 AM
I'm supposed to find a Hastings too
i'll take anything, the list was just ones i thought were most common. if you want to send me a new filter, i am very grateful as it's much easier to cut into, and i'll post all of them.
dremel + used filter = finest mist spray of oil and smoke.
I can send you a new KN-153
I have a used chrome plated napa filter. Do you want it?
Quote from: cduarte on December 15, 2009, 08:40:32 AM
I have a used chrome plated napa filter. Do you want it?
yes, that's probably the Napa 7013 on my list.. thanks
Quote from: ducatiz on December 12, 2009, 03:56:29 AM
Oh hell yes. I didn't think people would be as willing to give up clean filters. I MUCH prefer new ones!
I can send you a Perf Form filter when I get home from NYC later this week.
Quote from: RB on December 14, 2009, 10:51:18 AM
What about Baldwin? I can send you a new one, or in the spring i can send you a used one.
Where did you find a Baldwin for the Duc? I use them on my Alfa and they are supposedly one of the best brands out there. When I looked, I could never find anyone with any Motorcycle applications listed, although the Baldwin site talks about them. I assumed the were a OEM only, not available in the aftermarket.
Quote from: dlearl476 on December 16, 2009, 12:52:32 PM
snip...
Where did you find a Baldwin for the Duc?
I have a good friend that is a distributer for them. He mainly deals with large marine equipment. i gave them the bike specs and they told me the filter number B7292.
and for the record, this filter is black, not red like most of the Bladwin filters. I just installed the first one for the winter oil (10w40) so i don't have anything to report yet, and actually hope i don't have anything to report, out of the ordinary, when i change the oil again int the spring about 3000mi from now.
If you or anyone is interested i could probably get them shipped to you, i think they are around $10 a piece but i will see if there is a price break....pm me.
RB
Quote from: RB on December 17, 2009, 07:42:56 AM
I have a good friend that is a distributer for them. He mainly deals with large marine equipment. i gave them the bike specs and they told me the filter number B7292.
hmmmmm
QuoteDescriptions: Lube Spin-on
Contains: 8-12 PSID By-Pass Valve
Replaces: GMC 7984608; Woodgate WGL9032
Thread: M16 x 1.5
O.D.: 3 (76.2)
Length: 2 31/32 (75.4)
I. Gskt.: [1] Included
UPC: 7 91440 07210 7
Quote from: RB on December 17, 2009, 07:42:56 AM
I have a good friend that is a distributer for them. He mainly deals with large marine equipment. i gave them the bike specs and they told me the filter number B7292.
and for the record, this filter is black, not red like most of the Bladwin filters.
The ones I get for my Alfa are black as well.
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If you or anyone is interested i could probably get them shipped to you, i think they are around $10 a piece but i will see if there is a price break....pm me.
RB
Tell you what, I think I still have 5 or 6 PerfForm filters left. I'll keep your info and let you know when I need some more. OR, next time you order why don't you post up for a group buy. I'm sure you could get a price break if you ordered a few dozen. I'd be in for 6 at least.
are the baldwins supposed to be That good?
when i get one, i'll cut it open and we'll see!
i have heard the perf-forms are excellent using top notch filter medium
Quote from: ducatiz on December 24, 2009, 09:24:54 AM
are the baldwins supposed to be That good?
when i get one, i'll cut it open and we'll see!
An Alfa guy told me that Baldwin filters were the best in the world, except for the felt MANN filters (that cost $30 each and are only made for a few European cars.) Part of "best" though is ability to handle higher PSI's than most (as I think you'll find when you take it apart.) IMO, that's a moot point on our bikes.
Quotei have heard the perf-forms are excellent using top notch filter medium
True, but if you read the disclaimer on the Perf Form site, I wonder about this:
(http://www.perf-form.com/images/microglass.jpg)
QuotePerf-form - Microglass / synthetic
enhanced media at 50x magnification. Not all Perf-form medias are identical.
From the "See the Difference" page.
Quote from: dlearl476 on December 24, 2009, 09:35:34 AM
An Alfa guy told me that Baldwin filters were the best in the world, except for the felt MANN filters (that cost $30 each and are only made for a few European cars.) Part of "best" though is ability to handle higher PSI's than most (as I think you'll find when you take it apart.) IMO, that's a moot point on our bikes.
True, but if you read the disclaimer on the Perf Form site, I wonder about this:
(http://www.perf-form.com/images/microglass.jpg)
From the "See the Difference" page.
i've seen that, and i thought the difference was made in USA vs elsewhere -- that all the USA filters had the microglass media
Hard to say.. I just looked at all my Perf Form filters and they all say "Made in the USA" and FWIW, the BMW F650 filter looks exactly like the OEM filters. (Yellow paper-looking medium) Whether it's the same or not, who knows? (My electron microscope is in the shop. [laugh])
Oh, and FWIW, Some distributors I've seen label the filter as "DUC-1" but the Perf Form PN is "OF 0008."
I'd like to start cutting these filters soon, if anyone wants to send me a filter, please do it. I want to cut them open at the same time to reduce hassle for me.
see first post for what I've received and what I'd still like to get:
http://ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=32839 (http://ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=32839)
Quote from: Langanobob on December 12, 2009, 04:49:28 AM
PM sent. I'd be ashamed to send off a dirty old oil filter and I'm happy to donate a new filter or two. I've received a lot more from this board than I've ever put back so it's a good cause. I'd also think some of our well heeled businessmen members like Ducpainter and Speeddog would be willing to donate a filter. ;D
Well, I coulda sent him 20 dirty oil filters, but I don't think they'd pass the USPS/FedEx/UPS hazmat restriction. :P
Well heeled [laugh]
Quote from: Speeddog on January 22, 2010, 08:19:55 PM
Well, I coulda sent him 20 dirty oil filters, but I don't think they'd pass the USPS/FedEx/UPS hazmat restriction. :P
Well heeled [laugh]
what brands? if you have anything on my list, just double-bag it in two quart-sized freezer ziploc bags. it will be messy inside when i get it but i don't care, i'll glove it.
Just got K&N and Duc OEM, so no help to ya at this point.
Quote from: Speeddog on January 23, 2010, 01:09:08 PM
Just got K&N and Duc OEM, so no help to ya at this point.
any of the old Fiamm Ducati OEMs? they have the old school DUCATI logo that was on the bevel bikes.
Quote from: ducatiz on January 24, 2010, 02:45:58 AM
any of the old Fiamm Ducati OEMs? they have the old school DUCATI logo that was on the bevel bikes.
Nope.
I am going to work on this soon. I have been trying to get as many filters as possible and do them all at once:
I have the following:
Fram PH6019
HiFlo 153
KN-153
Perf-Form OF-0008 (formerly DUC-1)-- i wonder if these are identical?
Athena FFP011 * if I can find it...
Baldwin B7292
Parts Unlimited 01-0066 ("Pro" brand)
I may have an old-school Fiamm somewhere in my pat-rat collection of bike crap.
I'll have my manservant root around for it there just as soon as he's done flossing my teeth and cleaning my monocle collection.
well-heeled, indeed [roll]
Quote from: Drunken Monkey on June 19, 2010, 02:01:41 PM
I may have an old-school Fiamm somewhere in my pat-rat collection of bike crap.
if you find it, PM me. I finished cutting open all the others today, will be taking some pics tonight and posting results in a separate thread.
Suffice to say, I found some VERY interesting things out...
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I'll have my manservant root around for it there just as soon as he's done flossing my teeth and cleaning my monocle.
Don't you call those a "gimp" out there? [evil]
New thread on this here:
http://ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=39672.msg706646 (http://ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=39672.msg706646)