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Moto Board => Tech => Topic started by: CCEMN1 on December 27, 2009, 11:39:21 AM

Title: Steering Dampers
Post by: CCEMN1 on December 27, 2009, 11:39:21 AM
Can I use a stock steering damper from a 748 916 996, on my Ohlins front ended, 2007 S4RS?
Title: Re: Steering Dampers
Post by: LowThudd on December 27, 2009, 08:58:18 PM
I doubt it. The damper attatches to the top triple on the SBK.
Title: Re: Steering Dampers
Post by: He Man on December 28, 2009, 12:08:11 AM
Yes you can....
Title: Re: Steering Dampers
Post by: CDawg on December 28, 2009, 05:16:54 AM
I think you are going to need to get/fab new brackets to hold the damper unit.
Title: Re: Steering Dampers
Post by: LowThudd on December 28, 2009, 08:19:53 AM
Quote from: He Man on December 28, 2009, 12:08:11 AM
Yes you can....

You'd need the SBK top tripple if it fits, and a fabbed bracket for the frame. I'm not sure if the top tripple will fit.
Title: Re: Steering Dampers
Post by: Speeddog on December 28, 2009, 12:44:21 PM
OK, here's the deal.

SBK damper attaches to the upper triple and a bracket that's welded onto the frame.

S4Rs doesn't have a bracket on the frame.

SBK triple will *not* fit, as the part of the triple that the damper attaches to will conflict with the keyswitch bracket on the S4Rs.
Besides that, the SBK triple has no provision for attaching the handlebar, as SBKs have clip-ons.
Title: Re: Steering Dampers
Post by: Raux on December 28, 2009, 01:46:30 PM
look in the parts for sale section someone has a damper that will work on your bike.
Title: Re: Steering Dampers
Post by: CCEMN1 on December 28, 2009, 02:51:36 PM
I'm STILL confused?
I already bought a stock damper & hardware from a 996, but only paid $30 bucks for it, so I guess I'll try & fab something?
Title: Re: Steering Dampers
Post by: stopintime on December 28, 2009, 02:56:26 PM
Maybe the damper itself is generic - if so, you'll need only the top mount brackets to fit it?
Title: Re: Steering Dampers
Post by: LowThudd on December 28, 2009, 03:16:18 PM
Quote from: CCEMN1 on December 28, 2009, 02:51:36 PM
I'm STILL confused?
I already bought a stock damper & hardware from a 996, but only paid $30 bucks for it, so I guess I'll try & fab something?

I couldn't find a 996 pic, but this is similar. The damper will not fit on a monster because of the key location.

(http://i834.photobucket.com/albums/zz267/LowThudd/Ducati1098RBaylissLimitedEdition_jp.jpg)
Title: Re: Steering Dampers
Post by: Speeddog on December 28, 2009, 03:26:56 PM
Quote from: CCEMN1 on December 28, 2009, 02:51:36 PM
I'm STILL confused?
I already bought a stock damper & hardware from a 996, but only paid $30 bucks for it, so I guess I'll try & fab something?

You may be able to fab something, but the 'stroke' of a 996 damper is pretty short, so it'll be a bit of a challenge.
Title: Re: Steering Dampers
Post by: Spidey on December 28, 2009, 05:13:13 PM
'fabbed' SBK damper mount.  Speeddog is right that the stroke is pretty short.

(https://farm4.static.flickr.com/3237/2831407133_56510406bf_o.jpg)

(https://farm4.static.flickr.com/3003/2832243248_4ae170cd79_o.jpg)
Title: Re: Steering Dampers
Post by: He Man on December 28, 2009, 10:33:15 PM
Quote from: CCEMN1 on December 28, 2009, 02:51:36 PM
I'm STILL confused?
I already bought a stock damper & hardware from a 996, but only paid $30 bucks for it, so I guess I'll try & fab something?


What im trying to say is, you CAN install it. Its not an issue. HOW you are going to do it, is a different story. Theres more than 1 way to skin a cat and Spidey just showed you one way.

not sure why you bought a damper and expect it to just bolt on...
Title: Re: Steering Dampers
Post by: Rock Store on December 29, 2009, 05:00:42 AM
All sbk dampers top mount have a 68mm stroke, like the spidey machine ,engineered by Stuart Baker,the side mount damper for monsters have 140mm stroke as bolt either to the lower oart of the triple or the fork stanchion.Arrow special parts at one time had a top mount bracket for the monster to suit the ohlins damper, with 68mm stroke ,I would imagine it would suit the stock unit as well ,providing the barrel is the same OD. Contack arrow for info.
later...RS
Title: Re: Steering Dampers
Post by: CCEMN1 on December 29, 2009, 09:42:11 AM
Never expected it to "just bolt on", but I've had a fair amount of success at Fabing and modifying parts to work on different bikes.
And, I'm not even a Kiwi!
I can see that the extremely short stroke on the stock unit presents the greatest problem, as far as restrictions in mounting positions.
Title: Re: Steering Dampers
Post by: Speeddog on December 29, 2009, 08:45:31 PM
The mounting method Spidey showed in his pics works great on air-cooled Monsters, but you have to weld the boss onto the frame.
Won't work on water-coolers, as the radiator's in the way.