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Title: I've seen it all now, we're doomed
Post by: cduarte on January 01, 2010, 06:55:57 PM
ducati rotors made in china....

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Ducati-600-1000-Front-Rear-Brake-Disc-Rotor_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem3a55e02296QQitemZ250548855446QQptZMotorcyclesQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Ducati-600-1000-Front-Rear-Brake-Disc-Rotor_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem3a55e02296QQitemZ250548855446QQptZMotorcyclesQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories)


Title: Re: I've seen it all now, we're doomed
Post by: kopfjÀger on January 01, 2010, 08:09:50 PM
New in town?


Title: Re: I've seen it all now, we're doomed
Post by: MadDuck on January 01, 2010, 08:10:37 PM
What about the $17.00 Brembo copy radial master cylinders that you can get out of Thailand?


Title: Re: I've seen it all now, we're doomed
Post by: FastAndLight on January 02, 2010, 05:00:48 AM
I hate to say it, but it sort of begs the question; how good are these components?  Are they made in the same factories, on the same assembly lines, as the ones that are "real", or are they true poor knock-offs with obvoius quality deficiencies?


Title: Re: I've seen it all now, we're doomed
Post by: cduarte on January 02, 2010, 05:02:01 AM
no idea, you'd have to buy one and evaluate it.


Title: Re: I've seen it all now, we're doomed
Post by: Raux on January 02, 2010, 06:11:55 AM
i would imagine that would be reversed engineered copies with inferior metals and slightly lower tolerances.

it would take a company to really do a good examination of them to see if they are truly capable components or are dangerous copies.



Title: Re: I've seen it all now, we're doomed
Post by: cduarte on January 02, 2010, 06:43:33 AM
why would it take a company? if you have experience with metallurgy and have the right tools, it could be done at home.


Title: Re: I've seen it all now, we're doomed
Post by: Raux on January 02, 2010, 07:56:03 AM
why would it take a company? if you have experience with metallurgy and have the right tools, it could be done at home.
volunteering are you?


Title: Re: I've seen it all now, we're doomed
Post by: aaronb on January 02, 2010, 08:37:34 AM
if i had a set I would take them to work and give them a quick poke with the handheld XRF to get a general idea of what the rotor is made from.

ideally, then lpi rotor and carrier, but the buttons would have to be cut off to do that. 


Title: Re: I've seen it all now, we're doomed
Post by: Charlief on January 02, 2010, 09:16:13 AM
I just received a set of risers/clamps from china. These look identical to the speedymoto sets.  The fit/finish is first rate at half the cost including shipping.    Im  lookng at some rear sets from the same company.


Title: Re: I've seen it all now, we're doomed
Post by: Raux on January 02, 2010, 09:30:07 AM
send em to aaronb to get analyzed :D


Title: Re: I've seen it all now, we're doomed
Post by: Link on January 02, 2010, 09:50:35 AM
I just received a set of risers/clamps from china. These look identical to the speedymoto sets.  The fit/finish is first rate at half the cost including shipping.    Imbactuly lookng at some rear sets from the same company.

What company ?
Thanks


Title: Re: I've seen it all now, we're doomed
Post by: justinrhenry on January 02, 2010, 09:53:08 AM
little suki makes my rotors and i'm ok with that. 

(http://5.media.tumblr.com/YPLZBJuHzli8tn3vQPniz542o1_500.jpg)


Title: Re: I've seen it all now, we're doomed
Post by: Charlief on January 02, 2010, 10:00:25 AM
What company ?
Thanks

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Title: Re: I've seen it all now, we're doomed
Post by: BastrdHK on January 02, 2010, 05:09:02 PM
little suki makes my rotors and i'm ok with that. 

(http://5.media.tumblr.com/YPLZBJuHzli8tn3vQPniz542o1_500.jpg)

HA...hilarious!

The red wave is already upon us, and few of us even realize it. 


Title: Re: I've seen it all now, we're doomed
Post by: LA on January 02, 2010, 06:04:07 PM
if i had a set I would take them to work and give them a quick poke with the handheld XRF to get a general idea of what the rotor is made from.

ideally, then lpi rotor and carrier, but the buttons would have to be cut off to do that. 

Jebus dude, what do you do for a living?  Handheld?

LA


Title: Re: I've seen it all now, we're doomed
Post by: mstevens on January 03, 2010, 08:43:19 AM
little suki makes my rotors and i'm ok with that.

Why does that Chinese kid have a Japanese nickname?


Title: Re: I've seen it all now, we're doomed
Post by: justinrhenry on January 03, 2010, 09:20:58 AM
Why does that Chinese kid have a Japanese nickname?

his parents thought it would sound exotic. 


Title: Re: I've seen it all now, we're doomed
Post by: Charlief on January 03, 2010, 04:47:15 PM
his parents thought it would sound exotic. 

I just lol'ed for real!


Title: Re: I've seen it all now, we're doomed
Post by: Bill in OKC on January 03, 2010, 06:27:38 PM
I've heard of companies getting their stuff made in China to save money/make more money - then the next thing you know somebody in China is selling your design and competing against you with it.  Not sure if that is what happened with the SpeedyMoto stuff...  just as likely a true clone I guess.  I've had too many cheap Chinese parts break to trust my life to Chinese brake discs just yet.  YMMV


Title: Re: I've seen it all now, we're doomed
Post by: Goat_Herder on January 03, 2010, 08:55:27 PM
You can have your made in China levers, too!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/DUCATI-748-998-996-ST4-ST3-S2R-CNC-BRAKE-CLUTCH-LEVERS_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem414be933b8QQitemZ280446448568QQptZMotorcyclesQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/DUCATI-748-998-996-ST4-ST3-S2R-CNC-BRAKE-CLUTCH-LEVERS_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem414be933b8QQitemZ280446448568QQptZMotorcyclesQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories)


Title: Re: I've seen it all now, we're doomed
Post by: Charlief on January 04, 2010, 01:16:48 AM
I'm not pro china anything .... Well maybe the women..... But ALOT of stuff is being sourced there with awesome quality.

A good friend of mine was promoted to "head of research and devlopement for china" within his USA company.  They make plastic injection machines. He has told me ... What we all know... That many US companies are manufacturing there with American management in place.

Is there crap manufactured there?  Yes there is.   But there is also some great stuff too.   


Title: Re: I've seen it all now, we're doomed
Post by: trpletme on January 04, 2010, 07:35:16 AM
I'd still rather support a company like Speedymoto (and I do) that actually makes their products here. I support local business where I live and avoid stores like (Malwart). Yes I do pay more for stuff, but at least I am helping people where I live.  (Neighbors), as there are many independently owned businesses where I live.


Title: Re: I've seen it all now, we're doomed
Post by: junior varsity on January 04, 2010, 09:08:00 AM
the black ano on my made-in-china master cylinder clamps with mirror holes (Brembo GP mc's don't have them originally) turned brown after my 2nd ride on a sunny day. fitment was fine, sure, but quality was not "awesome", and I can't exactly mail them back, or really complain to any meaningful extent. I'll just not purchase again.

With rotors, there's a hole lot riding on their functionality. EBC rotors are dirt cheap (i don't know why) but then at least you have a domestic vendor to complain to.


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