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Title: how is this motorcycle deal possible...whats the catch???
Post by: lwszabo on January 04, 2010, 03:16:06 AM
http://www.teamcharlottemotorsports.com/new_vehicle_detail.asp?sid=09898798X1K4K2010J7I14I22JAMQ677R0&veh=37791&pov=1396147 (http://www.teamcharlottemotorsports.com/new_vehicle_detail.asp?sid=09898798X1K4K2010J7I14I22JAMQ677R0&veh=37791&pov=1396147)


I  know i know its not a Ducati...but if its true what a deal!


Title: Re: how is this motorcycle deal possible...whats the catch???
Post by: junior varsity on January 04, 2010, 04:10:57 AM
Asking price under $5k?

That's not that far of a stretch for a 600, including factory rebates, etc.

The local honda dealer will try to sell you a 1000 for less money than a 600 (regardless of what you are there to look at or riding experience) because they need to move product. I am going to guess that something similar is going on here.


Title: Re: how is this motorcycle deal possible...whats the catch???
Post by: lwszabo on January 04, 2010, 04:31:28 AM
Asking price under $5k?

That's not that far of a stretch for a 600, including factory rebates, etc.

The local honda dealer will try to sell you a 1000 for less money than a 600 (regardless of what you are there to look at or riding experience) because they need to move product. I am going to guess that something similar is going on here.
they have used 07 ZX6R's going for more $. I know a 2009 10 bike is over 10K now


Title: Re: how is this motorcycle deal possible...whats the catch???
Post by: junior varsity on January 04, 2010, 04:37:39 AM
i think, at this point, its more about moving product than making profit. both at the dealer and manufacturer levels.


Title: Re: how is this motorcycle deal possible...whats the catch???
Post by: lwszabo on January 04, 2010, 04:48:55 AM
ok i ma sure the bike jumps up to almost 6000 by the time the dealership adds all the fees!


Title: Re: how is this motorcycle deal possible...whats the catch???
Post by: hoyden on January 04, 2010, 05:49:50 AM
notice the little carrot ^ next to the price?
here's the fine print:
" *Price, if shown, does not include government fees, taxes, dealer vehicle freight/preparation, dealer document preparation charges or any finance charges (if applicable). Final actual sales price will vary depending on options or accessories selected."


When I was selling bikes I learned a lot about the industry. Yessirreebob.
Taxes and government fees (title/tags etc) are non-negotiable.
No matter what the sales guy says, "freight prep" "document prep" "shipping charges" whathaveyou are All negotiable. Those are made-up charges.
Sure, they have to pay insurance on each bike to sit in their showroom, and yeah, they prolly did have to pay some kind of shipping/crating charge... but not $600 (and up) per bike.  (I knew a place that ended up tacking on around $1000/bike for "shipping & handling" fees!)

One of the big places they get you is in finance. If you are financing a bike, be careful!
Pay close attention to the numbers because a good finance guy will have your head spinning.
It's much better to get a loan from a bank and walk in with money than to finance at a dealer.

FWIW, my .02
 :)


Title: Re: how is this motorcycle deal possible...whats the catch???
Post by: junior varsity on January 04, 2010, 05:54:17 AM
I've always wondered if I 'ordered' a bike, rather than getting one from the showroom floor, if I could bypass "setup" charges all together. Thankyouverymuch, I can put it together just fine. I am quite aware the answer to that question would be "no" however.


Title: Re: how is this motorcycle deal possible...whats the catch???
Post by: muskrat on January 04, 2010, 09:43:48 AM
so calling a dealer "stealer" can sometimes apply  :P


Title: Re: how is this motorcycle deal possible...whats the catch???
Post by: Travman on January 04, 2010, 10:56:50 AM
About 6 thousand for a new Japanese 600 that has been sitting on the sales floor for years sounds about right in this economy.  It's a new world order as far as motorcycle values.  Imagine how much this bike would be worth after it's been owned for a a few hundred miles.  You could probably pick it up with some warranty left and a few hundred miles for $3500-$4000.  Suzuki and one of the other Japanese bike makers are not even bringing bikes to the U.S. for 2010 because their dealers need to get rid of the 2006-2009 bikes sitting on the floor. 


Title: Re: how is this motorcycle deal possible...whats the catch???
Post by: LowThudd on January 04, 2010, 12:20:31 PM
Here's a much better deal. 2008 Ninja 650 for $3k

http://losangeles.craigslist.org/sfv/mcy/1537238680.html (http://losangeles.craigslist.org/sfv/mcy/1537238680.html)


Title: Re: how is this motorcycle deal possible...whats the catch???
Post by: lwszabo on January 04, 2010, 02:08:32 PM
Here's a much better deal. 2008 Ninja 650 for $3k

http://losangeles.craigslist.org/sfv/mcy/1537238680.html (http://losangeles.craigslist.org/sfv/mcy/1537238680.html)
you have to search for bikes more than anyone...and how do you always seem to find bikes soooo far away?? thanks anyway.


Title: Re: how is this motorcycle deal possible...whats the catch???
Post by: Statler on January 04, 2010, 04:10:57 PM
with all the energy posting speculating about that 07's actual otr price, did anyone interested bother to call and ask for it?


Title: Re: how is this motorcycle deal possible...whats the catch???
Post by: junior varsity on January 04, 2010, 04:15:50 PM
i don't like to talk to real humans, that's why i came to the internets.


Title: Re: how is this motorcycle deal possible...whats the catch???
Post by: lwszabo on January 05, 2010, 02:58:51 AM
with all the energy posting speculating about that 07's actual otr price, did anyone interested bother to call and ask for it?
I have $8999 MSRP


Title: Re: how is this motorcycle deal possible...whats the catch???
Post by: muskrat on January 05, 2010, 04:17:58 AM
http://www.teamcharlottemotorsports.com/new_vehicle_detail.asp?sid=09898798X1K4K2010J7I14I22JAMQ677R0&veh=37791&pov=1396147 (http://www.teamcharlottemotorsports.com/new_vehicle_detail.asp?sid=09898798X1K4K2010J7I14I22JAMQ677R0&veh=37791&pov=1396147)


I  know i know its not a Ducati...but if its true what a deal!

always check these guys.  a drive I know but if you save several grand who cares.  http://www.abernathyonline.com/ (http://www.abernathyonline.com/)  I use them to compare prices in DFW when buying bikes


Title: Re: how is this motorcycle deal possible...whats the catch???
Post by: fastwin on January 05, 2010, 05:22:51 AM
I posted this elsewhere but some friends of mine who work in a local Kawi/Suzook dealership had an absolutely prestine used/trade in SV650S with less than a 1,000 miles on the clock. I mean it was perfect, it looked just like it did with zero miles on the showroom floor. If I taped over the odometer you would have never known it had been ridden, tire "whiskers"... everything. They had it for a year and a half!!! They wanted $5,000 for it and couldn't get anyone approved for a loan! I couldn't believe that every time I went by the shop it was still there. That is a very popular bike, in perfect shape for a good price. They finally blew it out the door on ebay for $3,000!!! They had $4,500 in it and just recently turned down a $3,600 cash offer. The Apocalypse is near... or at least a lot closer than Obama is telling us! [bang]


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