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Title: Rizoma Fluid Reservoirs
Post by: FastAndLight on January 23, 2010, 08:28:19 PM
I have an S2R1000 and am getting ready to order clip-ons and a bunch of other parts, and thought I would replace the ugly plastic fluid reservoirs with some Rizoma parts.  What I was really wondering about was the size of the reservoirs.  Is there any problem with going with the "medium": http://www.monsterparts.com/p/CT025/Rizoma+Fluid+Reservoir-+Medium,+side+outlet.html (http://www.monsterparts.com/p/CT025/Rizoma+Fluid+Reservoir-+Medium,+side+outlet.html)
ones for both the clutch and the brake?  I like the symmetry of having both the same size.  Does the bottom or side outlet much matter? 

I haven't seen my bike in 6 months and can't remember where the outlet is on the stock ones. 

Thanks for any and all help.


Title: Re: Rizoma Fluid Reservoirs
Post by: Slide Panda on January 24, 2010, 04:00:55 AM
Bottom vs side is just a matter of logistics - what will make the easiest hose run.

Plenty of folks have opted to use the same size reservoirs from brake and clutch when doing a swap like you are, for the same reasons. So far, I've yet to hear of any real problems from it. WIth a smaller brake res, you'll probably need to bleed the system more often due to the lower total fluid volume - but that's about it AFAIK


Title: Re: Rizoma Fluid Reservoirs
Post by: geoffduc on January 24, 2010, 04:31:57 AM
I've used the medium size, side outlet on quite afew bikes with out any problems with bleeding, I also find that using the billet rizoma bracket makes a much better looking job than the S/S hard ware that the pots come with. Just be careful when installing the short rubber pipe as I've found it best to get new clips that seal the pipe to the pot as they are abit fiddley [thumbsup]

 [coffee]


Title: Re: Rizoma Fluid Reservoirs
Post by: FastAndLight on January 24, 2010, 08:32:58 AM
Outstanding, thanks for all of the help guys, I really appreciate it. 

Is there any downside to just using the large size for both and having the clutch one be bigger than stock?



Title: Re: Rizoma Fluid Reservoirs
Post by: Bill in OKC on January 24, 2010, 08:51:05 AM
I agree that the billet rizoma brackets are nice.  They require some fiddling if you want to keep the screen.  Another thing, mine came with extra outlets, the side ones, and they are slightly different size.  I *assumed* the ones that came installed were correct, but ended up swapping them out for the ?smaller? ones (IIRC it seems the clamps didn't want to ride over the larger barbs).  It doesn't hurt to have some extra brake fluid hose handy when installing different reservoirs.  I needed a bit longer and had to wait a few days for it to arrive.
edit:  The windows are on the side where they face you if you get the larger/smaller ones like come stock.  If you mix/match one window will be facing away from you - if you use the side outlet models.


Title: Re: Rizoma Fluid Reservoirs
Post by: kopfjäger on January 24, 2010, 08:54:23 AM
Is there any downside to just using the large size for both and having the clutch one be bigger than stock?

Not that I know of.

(http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa91/chiflado/feral005.jpg)


Title: Re: Rizoma Fluid Reservoirs
Post by: Bill in OKC on January 24, 2010, 09:06:12 AM
Dang that looks good.


Title: Re: Rizoma Fluid Reservoirs
Post by: Novelo on January 24, 2010, 12:50:28 PM
Yes sir always curious how he got those Marzocchi SBK forks to fit on there Ducshop has a nice little right up on it and think there is a few floating around here as well.
http://ducshop.com/featuredbike15.php (http://ducshop.com/featuredbike15.php)
On topic though this Classic owner did something kind of neat to his pee cups pretty sweet if I do say so not sure if we Monster owners have the room. Definitely a source for inspiration can't stand my cups don't want to go Riza's either because that is what everyone does.  :'(
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v30/Batman50/DSCN1654.jpg)


Title: Re: Rizoma Fluid Reservoirs
Post by: Slide Panda on January 24, 2010, 05:00:55 PM
While looking neat, it's a tech fail. By putting the reservoirs lower than the masters like that he's created a situation were air can much more easily collect in the hose from the res to the master - and then working it's way in. There's a reason besides tradition that the reservoirs are always the highest point in the system.


Title: Re: Rizoma Fluid Reservoirs
Post by: junior varsity on January 24, 2010, 05:38:39 PM
While looking neat, it's a tech fail. By putting the reservoirs lower than the masters like that he's created a situation were air can much more easily collect in the hose from the res to the master - and then working it's way in. There's a reason besides tradition that the reservoirs are always the highest point in the system.

+1.

Like kopfjager, I've got Rizoma reservoirs on my bike. I have a good 10 or so thousand miles with 'em with zero issues.

(https://lh5.ggpht.com/_4iYlZ1m8UEM/S0fVvLS1EKI/AAAAAAAAFBg/iXkYSMljWr0/s800/IMG_1974.JPG)



Title: Re: Rizoma Fluid Reservoirs
Post by: FastAndLight on January 24, 2010, 07:34:46 PM
ato memphis, what headlight is that?  It looks outstanding.


Title: Re: Rizoma Fluid Reservoirs
Post by: junior varsity on January 25, 2010, 02:47:09 AM
Its the Desmoworld Clear Glass Headlight (http://www.desmoworld.com (http://www.desmoworld.com) - they speak english if you need to email); approximately the same dimensions as the stock headlight, and I had the ring powdercoated black.


Title: Re: Rizoma Fluid Reservoirs
Post by: Punx Clever on January 25, 2010, 11:29:36 AM
Another option that I managed to stumble on... Superbike parts:
(http://photos-g.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs126.snc3/17346_922392371268_13735265_51378738_4806884_n.jpg)

Resivoirs are actually built to mount directly to the masters.  Granted, that means they are matched to masters.  Just a thought.


Title: Re: Rizoma Fluid Reservoirs
Post by: Novelo on January 25, 2010, 07:16:50 PM
While looking neat, it's a tech fail. By putting the reservoirs lower than the masters like that he's created a situation were air can much more easily collect in the hose from the res to the master - and then working it's way in. There's a reason besides tradition that the reservoirs are always the highest point in the system.

Yeah I am aware of the whole "rolling down hill theory" in more than one way  [cheeky]. Found that on Ducat.ms guy claims to have not had any issues with them there but who knows. I don't trust it I ride the piss out of my S2R and that guy might not ride his classic often which might explain why there have not been any issues who knows though. 


Title: Re: Rizoma Fluid Reservoirs
Post by: dennisd on January 26, 2010, 04:18:21 AM
As long as there are no leaks at the hose connections and all air was removed from the hose at installation, no air can get into the system.  The fluid is always going to be at the bottom of the reservoir (assuming you maintain the fluid level) so only fluid can be drawn into the hose and master.


Title: Re: Rizoma Fluid Reservoirs
Post by: junior varsity on January 26, 2010, 04:27:24 AM
Not necessarily at the bottom of the reservoir at all times. Bikes go over bumps and around turns. That fluid gets sloshed every which way.


Title: Re: Rizoma Fluid Reservoirs
Post by: corey on January 26, 2010, 08:08:38 AM
As long as there are no leaks at the hose connections and all air was removed from the hose at installation, no air can get into the system.  The fluid is always going to be at the bottom of the reservoir (assuming you maintain the fluid level) so only fluid can be drawn into the hose and master.

my rear brake the needs bled every 3 months despite being constantly sealed says otherwise.
if this were the case, brake bleeding wouldn't exist.
air finds it's way in, no matter what.


Title: Re: Rizoma Fluid Reservoirs
Post by: FastAndLight on January 26, 2010, 08:38:55 PM
Thanks for the comments and help.  Today I ordered the reservoirs (and about $1700 worth of other stuff ;D) and ended up going with the "appropriate" size for each.  At the end of the day for me, the stock reservoirs looks so bad that any Rizoma part will be a massive improvement and if the lack of symmetry really bothers me that much I can always order another one to match.  Ducati probably sized them the way that they are for a reason, so I'm not one to play with that too much.

I'll post up pictures when I get everything installed, but it could be a while.


Title: Re: Rizoma Fluid Reservoirs
Post by: Charlief on January 28, 2010, 01:15:52 AM
Do these leak any less than stock coffins?

Mine weep so much


Title: Re: Rizoma Fluid Reservoirs
Post by: junior varsity on January 28, 2010, 04:19:43 AM
Mine weep nearly none. I say nearly, I occasionally notice a drop on the outside, but its usually around the time I bled the system and put new fluid in everywhere, so it could be more of a spill than anything.

Other note, the o-rings around the outside of the cap will wear away eventually. Mine's gone. Not getting replaced because they don't add anything to the reservoirs in my book.


Title: Re: Rizoma Fluid Reservoirs
Post by: geoffduc on January 28, 2010, 05:39:57 PM
I've found that if you smear alittle petroleum jelly carefully round the thread on the out side of the pot you'll get no weeping  [thumbsup]


 [coffee]


Title: Re: Rizoma Fluid Reservoirs
Post by: GrnEyedMonster on February 09, 2010, 05:51:35 PM
Not that I know of.

(http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa91/chiflado/feral005.jpg)

It's the Brembo billet brakes that I notice.  That's a fine piece of hardware.  About $1,300 for the set!


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