Title: Alternator solved! New problem: Post by: evoasis on January 25, 2010, 07:57:22 AM I need either that or some quick advice on putting my duc back together. I was in the middle of fixing the shifter fork spring and alternator generator when I had to perform a military obligation, forgetting how the thing went back together :-[
1) I need to know which direction the clutch control rod goes back in (In reference to the rounded end and the O-Rings) 2) I need to know which way the flywheel's inner ring installs in reference to its broad side and the engines inner case.. Item #18 and that washer #17 looks alot thicker on the diagram than the thin one I seem to have... (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v255/evoasis/DucatiEngine.jpg) Cheers, Christopher Title: Re: Haynes Manual to Borrow? Post by: Speeddog on January 25, 2010, 09:01:24 AM Clutch pushrod; O-rings toward the left side.
Which # on the diagram is "flywheel inner ring"? Title: Re: Haynes Manual to Borrow? Post by: evoasis on January 25, 2010, 09:07:00 AM Number 18 Nick, thanks for the help old buddy.. The ECU is STILL working just fine :)
Title: Re: Haynes Manual to Borrow? Post by: evoasis on January 25, 2010, 09:10:45 AM It's in no way attached to the flywheel, it just slips on the spindle with it :)
Title: Re: Haynes Manual to Borrow? Post by: Speeddog on January 25, 2010, 09:17:04 AM It goes together as shown in that diagram.
Put some grease on the washer #17 to hold it in place for installation. Make *absolutely* sure that it hasn't slipped out of place before you tighten the nut. Title: Re: Haynes Manual to Borrow? Post by: evoasis on January 25, 2010, 09:22:48 AM Will do, thanks man. Why would they make a washer whose inner diameter is larger than the spindle it rests on?
Title: Re: Haynes Manual to Borrow? Post by: Speeddog on January 25, 2010, 09:26:52 AM ID of washer #17 is just slightly bigger than the snout on #18.
Not sure why they did it that way. Title: Re: Haynes Manual to Borrow? Post by: Duck-Stew on January 25, 2010, 10:38:56 AM ID of washer #17 is just slightly bigger than the snout on #18. Not sure why they did it that way. Not that Speeddog needs this, but I can completely confirm the above information and yes....#17 is like wafer-thin. Title: Re: Haynes Manual to Borrow? Post by: evoasis on January 25, 2010, 11:25:12 AM Stupid Ducati.. Alright here's what I'm goin' with. When it breaks I'll drop it off @ Valley Ducati ;)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v255/evoasis/OrderOfParts.jpg) I need to sync all the tick marks huh. Damn. lol (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v255/evoasis/Flymarks.jpg) Title: Re: Haynes Manual to Borrow? Post by: evoasis on January 25, 2010, 02:52:17 PM Does it really matter the position of the tick marks on the flywheel in reference to the piston position? Idk if they've ever given me a correct TDC reading since I've owned the bike~
Title: Re: Haynes Manual to Borrow? Post by: Speeddog on January 25, 2010, 02:56:47 PM Does it really matter the position of the tick marks on the flywheel in reference to the piston position? Idk if they've ever given me a correct TDC reading since I've owned the bike~ Well, at the very least, it's better to get it right, just to avoid confusion in the future. What model and year of Monster? Title: Re: Haynes Manual to Borrow? Post by: Duck-Stew on January 25, 2010, 08:21:07 PM I need to sync all the tick marks huh. Damn. lol (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v255/evoasis/Flymarks.jpg) The white mark you have circled needs to line-up with the small gear that is keyed onto the crankshaft. That alignment is what keeps the valves from kissing the pistons. I don't know what other mark you have circled in that picture, but it's not the alignment for the timing. Title: Re: Haynes Manual to Borrow? Post by: Duck-Stew on January 25, 2010, 08:21:57 PM What model and year of Monster? '02 to '05 620 IIRC... Title: Re: Haynes Manual to Borrow? Post by: Speeddog on January 25, 2010, 08:28:18 PM IIRC, there's a dot on the center hub of the flywheel that lines up with a slot or a mark on the crank, such that the hashmarks on the flywheel will give you a correct TDC and Ignition point in the sidecover window.
I think that's what he's talking about.. Title: Re: Haynes Manual to Borrow? Post by: evoasis on January 25, 2010, 09:09:21 PM Yeah it's for the timing mark in the window, I never use it when I shim, I just go with watching the valves for compression / exhaust strokes and with a screwdriver in the spark plug's hole.
Turbine engines are so much easier than these things. Hell, even the boxer engines on a Cessna are more straightforward, but magnetos are no fun to sync... Edit: I didn't take any other gears off other than the (#20) pictured~ And that just engages the crank from the starter I thinkkkkkkkkk... Title: Both problems solved! Post by: evoasis on January 27, 2010, 09:39:15 AM Well, I have it all buttoned up in the middle of the bike, but the alternator generator I purchased (Off 2003 620) is slightly larger than my Ducati's alternator.. Anyone have an extra to sell me @ a cheaper than OEM price, I'd appreciate it :)
Part Number: 264.4.014.3B Title: Re: Haynes Manual to Borrow? Post by: Speeddog on January 27, 2010, 10:13:59 AM The alternator has that same part number for both '03 and '05 M620.
At least, according to Ducati's parts catalogues. Title: Re: Haynes Manual to Borrow? Post by: evoasis on January 27, 2010, 11:30:51 AM That's what I saw, maybe I got jip'd cause this thing wont slide into the flywheel magneto dealy..
Title: Re: Haynes Manual to Borrow? Post by: erkishhorde on January 29, 2010, 07:05:39 AM Did you get it from a local dealer? If so, try taking your original and the new one back and talking to them about it.
Title: Alternator solved! New problem: Post by: evoasis on January 29, 2010, 11:34:12 AM Alas, it worked Stu thanks much~
Now, there's a new problem (after I buttoned it up ofcourse) I must've put the shifter assembly back together wrong because all I can get into is 1st and neutral (after changing the fork spring).. Any ideas? Title: Re: Alternator solved! New problem: Post by: Speeddog on January 29, 2010, 11:47:31 AM Make sure the external stuff (shift lever, pushrod, case lever) isn't hitting on something or binding.
If that's all OK, then you'll have to pull the sidecover off.... Title: Re: Alternator solved! New problem: Post by: evoasis on January 29, 2010, 11:54:55 AM Yeah I ordered a remover... lol, fun stuff~
But a warning to everyone out there, when you order a new alternator, get the magneto with it as they are paired in size... Title: Re: Alternator solved! New problem: Post by: evoasis on January 29, 2010, 01:21:54 PM When I re-installed the fork spring thingy, I tightened the two bolts that hold the bottom fork leg at a bad point, putting it in a bad position for shifting. Used the clutch slave engine case removal method to pull the case too :) hahah
Thanks for everyone's help.. Title: Re: Alternator solved! New problem: Post by: Duck-Stew on January 29, 2010, 02:40:50 PM There's a small hash mark on the upper leg of the shifter fork. That mark needs to be aligned with the center of the pin in the shifter drum.
All you have to do to accomplish this is to slightly rotate the shifter fork until it's aligned and then tighten one of the two bolts which hold the fork to the engine case. Title: Re: Alternator solved! New problem: Post by: evoasis on February 04, 2010, 12:20:54 AM Yeah I figured it out after looking up several pictures on google images. Life saver!!!
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