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Title: Another suspension question
Post by: The Bearded Duc on February 03, 2010, 07:48:49 PM
I'm sure this has been gone over many times before but I didn't browse....
Anyhow, does anyone know if 2001 Monster 900 S4 forks are a direct bolt on for my '01 M750?

I found and used but good condition set for cheap and what to know if they're worth my time.
Title: Re: Another suspension question
Post by: Ddan on February 04, 2010, 01:43:45 AM
I don't think there was a 900 S4, but '01 900 Monster forks should fit an '01 750
Title: Re: Another suspension question
Post by: ducpainter on February 04, 2010, 03:19:16 AM
I believe that the S4 was called a 900 in some literature, we all know it had a 4V motor, and the forks will fit your 750. They might be slightly longer,

Just to be sure measure the areas that clamp in the triples. 50 mm top and 54 bottom.
Title: Re: Another suspension question
Post by: Speeddog on February 04, 2010, 02:43:28 PM
They will fit in the triple clamps of your '01 M750, but they'll be about an inch shorter.  :(

S4 forks are 27 5/16" from axle centerline to top of the outer leg, when *fully* extended.
The forks on the '01 M750 are 28 5/16".

I'm basing this on an '01 M750 in my shop, I'm 99.99% sure the forks are original.

However, they stick out of the upper triple about 0.70", so you would be dropping the front 0.30".
Title: Re: Another suspension question
Post by: The Bearded Duc on February 04, 2010, 03:20:25 PM
Quote from: Speeddog on February 04, 2010, 02:43:28 PM
They will fit in the triple clamps of your '01 M750, but they'll be about an inch shorter.  :(

S4 forks are 27 5/16" from axle centerline to top of the outer leg, when *fully* extended.
The forks on the '01 M750 are 28 5/16".

I'm basing this on an '01 M750 in my shop, I'm 99.99% sure the forks are original.

However, they stick out of the upper triple about 0.70", so you would be dropping the front 0.30".
That being said, I don't the front being lower by an inch or less so that's still an option. But are there other options? Say, new internals? I kinda want the ability to adjust but I'd settle for just a smoother ride.
Title: Re: Another suspension question
Post by: scott_araujo on February 05, 2010, 01:54:06 PM
You can easily change springs, oil weight, and oil level in the forks you have now.  You'll need to disassemble to adjust but once you get it right it will be much better.  If they are Showa forks you can probably get new internals.  Marzocchi can get new internals from Traxxion Dynamics but they are pricey and seem hard to actually get a hold of.  There was someone on TOB that posted up doing it, parts looked nice.

Dropping the front end an inch is a pretty radical change to your steering geometry.  It may make the bike very unstable.  .3", maybe doable.

Scott
Title: Re: Another suspension question
Post by: The Bearded Duc on February 06, 2010, 01:21:55 AM
Quote from: scott_araujo on February 05, 2010, 01:54:06 PM
Dropping the front end an inch is a pretty radical change to your steering geometry.  It may make the bike very unstable.  .3", maybe doable.

Scott

Is there a fork conversion that wouldn't change the geometry and wouldn't be that pricey?
Title: Re: Another suspension question
Post by: Speeddog on February 06, 2010, 07:50:38 AM
I think the adjustable Showas on the SS are long.

I don't have measurements off of a set.
Title: Re: Another suspension question
Post by: battlecry on February 06, 2010, 11:45:53 AM
Speeddog is right.  The SS's are quite long.  I was shipped SS cartridges by mistake and when I installed them on my Monster forks the slider area was 170mm instead of the nominal 130mm.  So you are talking about a  40mm delta.
Title: Re: Another suspension question
Post by: Mr Earl on February 06, 2010, 03:11:33 PM
SS900 adjustable Showas are long enough to interfere with Monster handlebar mounting, long enough to install Swatt clip-ons above the triple and have tube left over.  A huge improvement, however, with the right springs and fluid.