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Title: Monster vs 848
Post by: He Man on February 16, 2010, 09:20:13 AM
Alright guys, the other guys insurance has stated they will cover charges to repair the bike.

Im not sure what the estimate will be with a repair shop, im guessing it will be about $4000.

WIth that siad, i have 3 options presented to me.

1) I can leave the bike with ECS to get fully repaired. Keep the Monster
2) Pocket the repair cost of the bike and keep the monster (the bikes rideable but doenst look pretty)
3) Pocket the repair cost and sell the monster, save $2,000 and buy an 848

What do you guys think?


Title: Re: Monster vs 848
Post by: Triple J on February 16, 2010, 09:22:39 AM
With your luck I'd do #2.  ;D

Get a nice bike when you live somewhere you can protect it.  [cheeky]


Title: Re: Monster vs 848
Post by: He Man on February 16, 2010, 09:27:15 AM
With your luck I'd do #2.  ;D

Get a nice bike when you live somewhere you can protect it.  [cheeky]

A sane man spoked to me once, thats what he said too.  [laugh]


Title: Re: Monster vs 848
Post by: Slide Panda on February 16, 2010, 09:31:48 AM
With your luck I'd do #2.  ;D

What he said...

Also, I had a chance to demo an 848, only a demo mind you - but it's not something I'd want to ride around a city. It didn't feel real good until about 60. Below that, it felt very twitchy and unstable. Not that it was bad per se, but it's designed to turn at high speeds... city riding is not it's forte.


Title: Re: Monster vs 848
Post by: Duck-Stew on February 16, 2010, 10:00:18 AM
With your luck I'd do #2.  ;D

Get a nice bike when you live somewhere you can protect it.  [cheeky]

+1


Title: Re: Monster vs 848
Post by: yotogi on February 16, 2010, 10:28:07 AM
+1 #2


Title: Re: Monster vs 848
Post by: Popeye the Sailor on February 16, 2010, 10:48:06 AM
Keep it as is, keep the money.


Also please note that 99% of the people in this thread have said the same thing.



There's a reason for that.


Title: Re: Monster vs 848
Post by: mookieo2 on February 16, 2010, 10:58:40 AM
Pocket the money. Fix up the monster, as much as you can by yourself, get professional help where needed ( talking about mechanical,  ;D). Maybe buy a beater to commute with so you can keep the monster for Sunday, and non commuting rides.


Title: Re: Monster vs 848
Post by: Punx Clever on February 16, 2010, 11:09:19 AM
number 2.

Why? cause i'm rebuilding mine right now too, and if it had been in the shop to do all the work i've done to it... well, thats a lot of money.  4 grand in bike upgrades and making it how you want goes a long ways.


Title: Re: Monster vs 848
Post by: He Man on February 16, 2010, 11:59:09 AM
Alright then. Situation solved. Its the most sane sense, and probably the best.

Ill post up when i begin  tearing down the bike. hopefully i can get a check for a decent amount. ECS is going to take care of everything, im just going to drop the bike off to them and go home! They'll deal with the insurance adjuster to get the right amount without totaling the bike.


Title: Re: Monster vs 848
Post by: stopintime on February 16, 2010, 12:26:57 PM
I want only the best for you, but a 848 isn't it. Not now anyway.

Just keep the money, but in an account which can't be charged Monster bits [cheeky]


Title: Re: Monster vs 848
Post by: junior varsity on February 16, 2010, 12:54:47 PM
#2. go put the money in savings. buy a place with a private garage in the future.


Title: Re: Monster vs 848
Post by: He Man on February 16, 2010, 01:13:20 PM
i only plan on spending $1000 TOPS whatever else gets put into my bank account...to be only spent on food and tutition and gas. lol


Title: Re: Monster vs 848
Post by: Popeye the Sailor on February 16, 2010, 01:35:10 PM
Consider buying full insurance?  :P


Title: Re: Monster vs 848
Post by: He Man on February 16, 2010, 02:15:49 PM
Full insruance for 1 year costs more than the bikes worth right now


Title: Re: Monster vs 848
Post by: baller30 on February 16, 2010, 02:38:37 PM
848


Title: Re: Monster vs 848
Post by: bryant8 on February 16, 2010, 07:23:07 PM
Definitely not the 848... too much stuff to replace/repair if you have another incident with a dumpster or have somebody knock it over in NY.


Title: Re: Monster vs 848
Post by: Punx Clever on February 16, 2010, 07:40:14 PM
Tuition is a pregnant dog.  But you are making the right choice.

1) you get it done cheaper doing it yourself.

2) you learn more doing it yourself.

win win in my opinion.


Title: Re: Monster vs 848
Post by: Raux on February 16, 2010, 09:20:55 PM
buy the 848. build it into an 848 streetfighter


Title: Re: Monster vs 848
Post by: He Man on February 16, 2010, 09:42:54 PM
you mean let it rot into a street fighter? The money si going to all be spent anyway. I have tution covered with my summer work ( its only 2500 a semester) so im going to drop as little as money as possible into getting the bike good to go...then tracking the balls out of it.


Title: Re: Monster vs 848
Post by: xcaptainxbloodx on February 17, 2010, 12:22:34 AM
traaaaaaackkkkkkkkk biiiiiiiiikkkkkkkeeeeeeeeee


Title: Re: Monster vs 848
Post by: NorDog on February 17, 2010, 08:54:10 AM
Maybe you should take the money, sell the bike, and get one of these.

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3263/2617584638_a8633c5e98.jpg)


Title: Re: Monster vs 848
Post by: Raux on February 17, 2010, 08:56:36 AM
Maybe you should take the money, sell the bike, and get one of these.

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3263/2617584638_a8633c5e98.jpg)

yeah but for that money he may get one night with her... MAYBE


Title: Re: Monster vs 848
Post by: Punx Clever on February 17, 2010, 09:25:01 AM
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3263/2617584638_a8633c5e98.jpg)

Is it just me or does she look bored as hell?


Title: Re: Monster vs 848
Post by: Raux on February 17, 2010, 09:34:25 AM
Is it just me or does she look bored as hell?
it's not a ducati  ;D


Title: Re: Monster vs 848
Post by: NorDog on February 17, 2010, 09:54:46 AM
it's not a ducati  ;D

Yeah, but it won't fall over, and that's the important thing here.


Title: Re: Monster vs 848
Post by: He Man on February 17, 2010, 09:56:11 AM
hot body. generic hot face.
 not interested. ive seen hookers with a more interesting face. No i never paid for one, but they live around my area.



god i live a make the beast with two backsed up place.  [roll]


Title: Re: Monster vs 848
Post by: NorDog on February 17, 2010, 10:46:56 AM
hot body. generic hot face.
 not interested. ive seen hookers with a more interesting face. No i never paid for one, but they live around my area.



Guys, guys, I was talking about the three-wheeler, not the two-bagger!


Title: Re: Monster vs 848
Post by: Popeye the Sailor on February 17, 2010, 11:11:30 AM
This thread has run it's course. Consider it locked.



(I'm auditioning for mod-what'd you guys think?)


Title: Re: Monster vs 848
Post by: He Man on February 17, 2010, 11:23:53 AM
if you were auditioning for a mod, then you should have used the word consider.

Besides I have the power to lock it.  [evil]

Seriously though that bike just has more surface area to wash when chicken shit gets spewed on it.

I will say this, the 848 is running cheap these days. I dont know why. but they pop up for $8grand from time to time.

If i get a chance to snag it at 7500 or 8000grand i think its worth it.


Title: Re: Monster vs 848
Post by: swampduc on February 17, 2010, 11:32:48 AM
if you were auditioning for a mod, then you should have used the word consider.

Besides I have the power to lock it.  [evil]

Seriously though that bike just has more surface area to wash when chicken shit gets spewed on it.

I will say this, the 848 is running cheap these days. I dont know why. but they pop up for $8grand from time to time.

If i get a chance to snag it at 7500 or 8000grand i think its worth it.
Is $8k cheap? There's a bone stock 07 1098 near here that could probably be had for 8-8500. I bought an 08 for <10.5 with the Termi slip-on package, Ohlins ttx shock, and some other extras. 848's don't make good financial sense from a relative standpoint. Plus, they make little torque at street-riding revs, defeating the point of having a Duc. And you'll need to add a steering damper.


Title: Re: Monster vs 848
Post by: He Man on February 17, 2010, 11:50:42 AM
at 7grand, i am not spending any extra money.

thats the only reason. its just a deire to want an 848, not that i need one. the monster is more than suited for what i do.


man i need to just buy one ride it for a week and sell it to get it out of my system lol


Title: Re: Monster vs 848
Post by: duccarlos on February 17, 2010, 12:09:53 PM
Have you actually ridden an 848? It's a great track bike where you can get off of it after 15 minutes. I could not imagine spending more than an hour or 2 on it at any given time.


Title: Re: Monster vs 848
Post by: stopintime on February 17, 2010, 12:36:43 PM
This thread has run it's course. Consider it locked.



(I'm auditioning for mod-what'd you guys think?)

Hmmmm... maybe the DML isn't such a bad place...  [roll]


Title: Re: Monster vs 848
Post by: Triple J on February 17, 2010, 12:50:02 PM
Plus, they make little torque at street-riding revs, defeating the point of having a Duc.

I never understand people saying this. Sure, they make less torque than a 1098, 996, etc. However, they still do well. WOT an 848 at pretty much anything above 2800 and you'll get moving very quickly...just not as much so as a liter twin. More than adequate for street riding though.

The problem with them for street riding IMO is riding position (in slow traffic) and heat...not power delivery (other than not being able to use it all is frustrating).


Title: Re: Monster vs 848
Post by: He Man on February 17, 2010, 05:35:04 PM
I WANT an 848. Just because i think its a pretty bike and its got a lot of bells and whistles.

Practicality? No its far from the list.

im keeping the monster unless the strange opritunity that someone buys my bike the same day a $7,000 848 shows up.

Im just talking shit right now. Ive been on an 848. I think its alright. not too comfy, but not as bad as  a 749. the R6 was my favorite sat very very close to my monster, with the exception of the rearsets. which caused me to bend foward a bit, enough to not want to tour with it, but enough to ride all day with.


Title: Re: Monster vs 848
Post by: ducpainter on February 17, 2010, 05:39:15 PM
Hmmmm... maybe the DML isn't such a bad place...  [roll]
cold... ;D


Title: Re: Monster vs 848
Post by: danaid on February 17, 2010, 07:43:45 PM
  Get your bike fixed by the insurance co. If you keep the money you will just blow it on sh*t which will leave you with sh*t.

 


Title: Re: Monster vs 848
Post by: Raux on February 17, 2010, 07:54:40 PM
  Get your bike fixed by the insurance co. If you keep the money you will just blow it on sh*t which will leave you with sh*t.

 
or put it into an account called bike repairs...


Title: Re: Monster vs 848
Post by: He Man on February 17, 2010, 08:58:55 PM
rename, mandatory bike repairs... ive already begun to stock my bike up on things that are unbreakable or not easily broken.

First on list was bifolding levers...next up is the woodcraft clutch cover that has a slider pluck built into it... new sliders, im looking at either cyclecats or speedymotos, the rizoma shit is way to expensive...new bar end sliders cause mine got broken in the multiple hits... fork sliders and rear axle sliders.

make the beast with two backs it, maybe i should get crash cage? lol what else?

im defintely not going to fix the bike. Its noth worth it. Im going to get what? brand new parts for it and new paint job only to watch someoen run it over again? The monster is my beater bike. might as well look the part  :-[


Title: Re: Monster vs 848
Post by: caperix on February 18, 2010, 11:46:35 AM
I own both a monster and a 848, for city riding the monster is alot more fun but when it is time for a mountain trip it is the 848 that goes.  The 848 is not unbarable for a day to day bike, but the heat when stoped and the pressure on the wrists is much worse then the monster.  On trips to the mountains I have done 10 hour riding days on the 848, I am sore when I get off but able to do it again the next day.  For living in the city I would keep the monster, they handle better at lower speeds anyway.  Good luck with the repairs


Title: Re: Monster vs 848
Post by: pintsizejesus on February 18, 2010, 06:26:45 PM
I used to have an s2r800 and now have an 848.  It really depends on the riding that you do, for city the monster was much better for me but the 848 handles better on twisty rides etc.  I think I bought the 848 out of lust and now I wish I still had my monster because most of my riding is city.  I really think it all depends on what you are doing and if you can go test ride an 848 and see how you like it.  Sitting on it and riding it are completely different, and for what it's worth I had to change the stock spring because even with the preload backed off all the way I still had too much sag and I weigh 160. 


Title: Re: Monster vs 848
Post by: Speeddog on February 18, 2010, 07:24:24 PM
~~~SNIP~~~
 and for what it's worth I had to change the stock spring because even with the preload backed off all the way I still had too much sag and I weigh 160. 

 ???

My GF's 848 is way oversprung on the rear, I think Ducati mistakenly got a shipment of F250 truck springs.


Title: Re: Monster vs 848
Post by: MadDuck on February 18, 2010, 08:04:55 PM
And you'll need to add a steering damper.

Not that it wouldn't be a bad thing to have but I seriously doubt that you "need" one.  I haven't tracked my bike but I may have stuffed it through some turns once or twice. In almost 5,000 miles I've never felt the front even hint at twitching.  I put up a thread on Ducati.ms asking if anyone ever had a head shake on one. Not one affirmative reply. All that being said, one might find it's way onto my bike one day when I run out of other mods to do.


Title: Re: Monster vs 848
Post by: MadDuck on February 18, 2010, 08:09:08 PM
Sitting on it and riding it are completely different, and for what it's worth I had to change the stock spring because even with the preload backed off all the way I still had too much sag and I weigh 160. 


Somehow I don't think that came out like you intended.  Why on earth would you be backing off the preload and then complain about too much sag?? You'd be backing off preload to get more sag. And yes, the stock spring is set for about 240 lbs of rider weight.


Title: Re: Monster vs 848
Post by: Punx Clever on February 18, 2010, 08:46:30 PM
im defintely not going to fix the bike. Its noth worth it. Im going to get what? brand new parts for it and new paint job only to watch someoen run it over again? The monster is my beater bike. might as well look the part  :-[

invest in a jar of body filler and some rattle cans.  everythime someone knocks it over, sand, fill, sand, prime, spray.  yeah, it'll still look beater, but slightly less neglected.  probably be done for less than 50 bux a go for a full paint job once you spread the body filler over a few touch up jobs.


Title: Re: Monster vs 848
Post by: He Man on February 18, 2010, 10:18:32 PM
nah i bought my bike in mint condition. then i crashed it the day i got it registered. i repainted it with rattle cans and have not touched it since then. body filler is for sissys,


Title: Re: Monster vs 848
Post by: Desmo Demon on February 19, 2010, 05:14:44 AM
I'd also go with option #2 of pocking the money and keeping the bike, but I'm the guy with fairings on his ST2 that are scratched and plastic welded.

My wife's crashed her R1 last spring in a fluke incident and it could have been totaled at nearly $5000 in damages, but I insisted we didn't want to do that. The adjuster wrote it up and did not recommend totaling it, so we took the money, bought a bunch of used parts off of eBay and a few new parts like a tail fairing and a new slip-on to replace the stocker, I plastic welded the upper fairing and repainted over the welds, and you'd have to really know what to look for to tell the bike was wrecked. We pocketed close to $3000 out of that deal. We figure at over 40k miles, we don't care if the bike looks like new or not. That's how I look at my ST2 with over 50k miles on it.


Title: Re: Monster vs 848
Post by: pintsizejesus on February 19, 2010, 04:46:20 PM
You're right, I could only get 16 mm of sag with the stock shock spring with the preload all the way backed off.  Thanks for catching that.


Title: Re: Monster vs 848
Post by: DRKWNG on February 21, 2010, 04:52:58 PM
All that being said, one might find it's way onto my bike one day when I run out of other mods to do.

You mod your bikes?


Title: Re: Monster vs 848
Post by: Popeye the Sailor on February 21, 2010, 08:08:50 PM
You mod your bikes?

We can mod our bikes?


Title: Re: Monster vs 848
Post by: junior varsity on February 22, 2010, 04:35:28 AM
Ducati is making a Hypermotard?


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