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Title: Another one bites the dust
Post by: fouramdesigns on February 19, 2010, 06:32:19 PM
I wrecked yesterday at lunch. Hit the breaks too hard, front end slid on me, low tread and some road salt. I have a broken clav and thumb. My gear did it's job, new Alpinestars didn't fair so well. On a better note, most of the damage was to parts I've planned to replace on my rebuild. The tank is a goner, gauge cluster has a cut in top left, left Termi CF is cosmetically ruined, small 2.5" road rash on front rim, left bar/end is done. Frame seems to be fine. So this adds a new twist to the rebuild. So far I've sourced forks/triple, wheels. I've been thinking about going with a Quat D, not sure which setup to go with on ECU. Keep DP ECU add PC III, or Nemesis if available, since I was wanting a Motogadget Classic thus eliminating immobilizer. I'll be dropping the engine, having the frame painted. On the hunt for a CF tank. Trying to look at this from all angles. Wanting some advise where to start? Never been in this situation.


Title: Re: Another one bites the dust
Post by: Some Dude on February 19, 2010, 06:54:05 PM
Sorry to hear that.  I'm glad your Ok


Title: Re: Another one bites the dust
Post by: fouramdesigns on February 19, 2010, 07:01:06 PM
thanks man, very blessed it wasn't worse. Worried about my bike worse than myself at the time.


Title: Re: Another one bites the dust
Post by: Speeddog on February 19, 2010, 07:02:35 PM
Sorry to hear you hit the deck.  :(
Get well soon!

Is the bike fix going to be an insurance job or your pocket?


Title: Re: Another one bites the dust
Post by: fouramdesigns on February 19, 2010, 07:11:15 PM
My pocket. Ouch


Title: Re: Another one bites the dust
Post by: Howie on February 19, 2010, 07:12:36 PM
Sorry to hear about the mishap.  To a speedy and complete recovery for both you and the bike [beer]


Title: Re: Another one bites the dust
Post by: ducpainter on February 19, 2010, 07:32:58 PM
Haven't seen the tank, but unless you really want a carbon tank don't write off your steel one.

You'd be amazed at what can be fixed.


Title: Re: Another one bites the dust
Post by: fouramdesigns on February 19, 2010, 07:39:45 PM
shaving weight off. Whats a dented tank worth? lol


Title: Re: Another one bites the dust
Post by: ducpainter on February 19, 2010, 07:44:05 PM
shaving weight off. Whats a dented tank worth? lol
I'm not looking to buy.

You said this was out of pocket.

Just trying to point out that you could save some money by repairing.


Title: Re: Another one bites the dust
Post by: fouramdesigns on February 19, 2010, 08:01:25 PM
I know, I'm asking what you thinks it's worth is? Since I'm going all out, might as well go all out.


Title: Re: Another one bites the dust
Post by: ducpainter on February 19, 2010, 08:10:49 PM
I know, I'm asking what you thinks it's worth is? Since I'm going all out, might as well go all out.
The way it sits?

$50

Repaired and painted?

With the way things are going with the plastic tanks you might have a commodity. ;)


Title: Re: Another one bites the dust
Post by: fouramdesigns on February 19, 2010, 08:47:28 PM
what about calipers, rotors?


Title: Re: Another one bites the dust
Post by: somegirl on February 20, 2010, 08:42:19 AM
With the way things are going with the plastic tanks you might have a commodity. ;)

I'd rather have a dented metal tank than my plastic one with tumors. :P


Title: Re: Another one bites the dust
Post by: fouramdesigns on February 21, 2010, 06:18:24 AM
Sadness, hate to see my bike in this state. Least I'm ok, and it's rebuildable.


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Title: Re: Another one bites the dust
Post by: Raux on February 21, 2010, 08:04:52 AM
those are the same rims you are selling? have you checked the straightness cause that looks pretty nasty.


Title: Re: Another one bites the dust
Post by: fouramdesigns on February 21, 2010, 08:10:06 AM
Yeah, they're fine. The tank and bars took the hit. Very low speed, stopping at an intersection, some road salt, you know the rest. I'd never sell anything that's trashed. The frame is good, fork are good. Just the can, tank and bar. And my clav and thumb.  :)


Title: Re: Another one bites the dust
Post by: Raux on February 21, 2010, 08:18:54 AM
sorry to hear about your accident.

good luck on the rebuild


Title: Re: Another one bites the dust
Post by: ducpainter on February 21, 2010, 08:20:44 AM
those are the same rims you are selling? have you checked the straightness cause that looks pretty nasty.
Those scuffs are...nasty?


Title: Re: Another one bites the dust
Post by: Raux on February 21, 2010, 08:23:53 AM
Those scuffs are...nasty?

scuffs to you are somewhat scarier to most of us. but i meant the whole bike.


Title: Re: Another one bites the dust
Post by: fouramdesigns on February 21, 2010, 08:24:21 AM
Those scuffs are...nasty?
Seen way worse when I raced Honda's. You think it's not repairable? Am I off on the price? Was told $600-800 before this happened. Decided to let my new rear Michelin Pilot Sport go with them.


Title: Re: Another one bites the dust
Post by: ducpainter on February 21, 2010, 08:26:58 AM
scuffs to you are somewhat scarier to most of us. but i meant the whole bike.
The bike is scuffed up sure...but IMO our bikes are pretty rugged. At least the early bikes were, and unless you hit an immovable object or the bike slams hard to the ground on it's top they stay straight and the fix is cosmetic.

Seen way worse when I raced Honda's. You think it's not repairable? Am I off on the price? Was told $600-800 before this happened. Decided to let my new rear Michelin Pilot Sport go with them.
I'd fix it if It were mine.


Title: Re: Another one bites the dust
Post by: fouramdesigns on February 21, 2010, 08:36:12 AM
Well the good thing is, everything that was damaged, I was planning on replacing. I've sourced some SBK forks, still looking for tank, sourced some mags, maybe BST's. Just trying to get what I can, and be fair, from what I don't need. So if I'm off, let me know. Never had to part out a bike before. Amazingly, no damage to the radiator. The tank, bar took most of the slide. The bike hit road salt, slid left on the front, threw me right, slid back around, head light facing me. My first thought was, "Crap, you've got to be kidding me" Tried to pick it up, but my arm was screwed. Tank has a leak at the hinge. Removed it yesterday. Need to spray down the bike today. Everything seems to be ok other than what I've listed. Well, my headlight switch is busted, guess I can replace the whole controls since I'm freshening up the whole bike. Plan to drop the motor when I can. Send me a quote via PM what you'd charge to paint the frame and rear swingarms black.


Title: Re: Another one bites the dust
Post by: ducpainter on February 21, 2010, 08:40:35 AM
Well the good thing is, everything that was damaged, I was planning on replacing. I've sourced some SBK forks, still looking for tank, sourced some mags, maybe BST's. Just trying to get what I can, and be fair, from what I don't need. So if I'm off, let me know. Never had to part out a bike before. Amazingly, no damage to the radiator. The tank, bar took most of the slide. The bike hit road salt, slid left on the front, threw me right, slid back around, head light facing me. My first thought was, "Crap, you've got to be kidding me" Tried to pick it up, but my arm was screwed. Tank has a leak at the hinge. Removed it yesterday. Need to spray down the bike today. Everything seems to be ok other than what I've listed. Well, my headlight switch is busted, guess I can replace the whole controls since I'm freshening up the whole bike. Plan to drop the motor when I can. Send me a quote via PM what you'd charge to paint the frame and rear swingarms black.
You'd do better with powder on a frame in black.

The only reason to paint a frame is if you can't get the color you want in powder.


Title: Re: Another one bites the dust
Post by: fouramdesigns on February 21, 2010, 08:48:08 AM
I was thinking the frame KTM orange as well, logo in orange, rest black as night.


Title: Re: Another one bites the dust
Post by: ducpainter on February 21, 2010, 08:51:10 AM
I was thinking the frame KTM orange as well, logo in orange, rest black as night.
It's been done, but it's a good look.


Title: Re: Another one bites the dust
Post by: fouramdesigns on February 21, 2010, 08:55:01 AM
well that won't work, envisioned something completely different in my mind. May just stick with pitch black all over. Missed out on a CF tank last week. I hate making peanuts when I use to make cheddar.  ;D Least I have a job with great benefits. Especially now.


Title: Re: Another one bites the dust
Post by: ducpainter on February 21, 2010, 08:58:29 AM
If you think about it there are only so many combinations for a bike available. There are only so many brands of accessories available.

It's almost impossible to be totally original unless you're going to do a bunch of fabrication.

Pick what you like and go with it.

It's not a contest IMO.


Title: Re: Another one bites the dust
Post by: Raux on February 21, 2010, 09:09:03 AM
when i looked at my rebuild i started looking back on the history of Ducati.

at first i was going to do a redo of old blue
but that morphed into my silver/red theme i'm doing.

maybe research Ducati, look at old race bikes, etc. or even race cars. one of the coolest bikes i've ever seen is a 748 turned into a half fairing bike with the old Gulf racing colors from the CanAm race cars.


Title: Re: Another one bites the dust
Post by: fouramdesigns on February 21, 2010, 09:18:58 AM
True to both. I'm a minimalist.


Title: Re: Another one bites the dust
Post by: djrashonal on February 21, 2010, 12:59:45 PM
I wrecked yesterday at lunch. Hit the breaks too hard, front end slid on me, low tread and some road salt. I have a broken clav and thumb. My gear did it's job, new Alpinestars didn't fair so well. On a better note, most of the damage was to parts I've planned to replace on my rebuild. The tank is a goner, gauge cluster has a cut in top left, left Termi CF is cosmetically ruined, small 2.5" road rash on front rim, left bar/end is done. Frame seems to be fine. So this adds a new twist to the rebuild. So far I've sourced forks/triple, wheels. I've been thinking about going with a Quat D, not sure which setup to go with on ECU. Keep DP ECU add PC III, or Nemesis if available, since I was wanting a Motogadget Classic thus eliminating immobilizer. I'll be dropping the engine, having the frame painted. On the hunt for a CF tank. Trying to look at this from all angles. Wanting some advise where to start? Never been in this situation.

I know you said you want a CF tank, but i'm going to be putting on my new tank soon if you wanna buy my present tank from me. It's on my 01 S4, red, and in pretty good condition. I'm also going to be pulling off my Full 45/50 SS Hi mount Termi exhaust with Ti exhaust cans if you're interested... get well soon!


Title: Re: Another one bites the dust
Post by: fouramdesigns on February 21, 2010, 01:12:52 PM
Thanks for the offer. In the process of shaving weight, so I'm after the fuel cell or CF tank. Replacing my exhaust with the Quat D. But thank you for the offer. I'll keep you in mind if anything changes.


Title: Re: Another one bites the dust
Post by: COP TZR on February 21, 2010, 02:14:47 PM
Wow that sucks man.  Sorry to read up on your bad misfortune.  At least you're OK.  Bikes are always repairable.

Good luck


Title: Re: Another one bites the dust
Post by: fouramdesigns on February 21, 2010, 02:48:16 PM
Curious if this tank will work. Not much info on it, if it's FI. I assume not
http://www.trenditaly.com/fuel-tank-carbon-ducati-monster-900-p-10814.html (http://www.trenditaly.com/fuel-tank-carbon-ducati-monster-900-p-10814.html)


Title: Re: Another one bites the dust
Post by: ducpainter on February 21, 2010, 02:51:22 PM
Curious if this tank will work. Not much info on it, if it's FI. I assume not
http://www.trenditaly.com/fuel-tank-carbon-ducati-monster-900-p-10814.html (http://www.trenditaly.com/fuel-tank-carbon-ducati-monster-900-p-10814.html)
I don't believe it will.

This thread may help....http://ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=541.0 (http://ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=541.0)


Title: Re: Another one bites the dust
Post by: Duckintime on February 21, 2010, 06:48:19 PM
Id go with the fuel cell brand... Another mis hap and carbon fiber shreds. Fuel cell is meant to take abuse and imo safer. I think it holds more fuel too


Title: Re: Another one bites the dust
Post by: fouramdesigns on February 21, 2010, 07:05:02 PM
the only thing is Fuel-Cel isn't showing Monster tanks. Was the other day, now says "Under Construction" calling them tomorrow to see what's up.


Title: Re: Another one bites the dust
Post by: Mojo S2R on February 21, 2010, 08:15:01 PM
At least you came out of it okay.  This gives you an excuse to make some wanted mods though.
What are you going to do about the gaugepod?  Only option I've seen is to replace the whole thing.  If you find anyone that sells just the casing I'd like to know about it.  I wonder why I've seen aftermarket CF case replacements for every model of gaugepod case except that one.


Title: Re: Another one bites the dust
Post by: fouramdesigns on February 21, 2010, 08:17:22 PM
going the Motogadget route. Probably have the immobilizer zapped. Checking with Nemesis to see if they make an ECU that will work.


Title: Re: Another one bites the dust
Post by: djrashonal on February 21, 2010, 08:34:21 PM
going the Motogadget route. Probably have the immobilizer zapped. Checking with Nemesis to see if they make an ECU that will work.

also, check out electrosport. I'm waiting for this one:
http://www.electrosport.com/street/speedometers-series-4000.php (http://www.electrosport.com/street/speedometers-series-4000.php)
talked to them the other day, should be released at the end of march-ish for around 280-300. cheaper or around the same price as the motogadget ones with more functions.....just a thought  [thumbsup]


Title: Re: Another one bites the dust
Post by: fouramdesigns on February 21, 2010, 08:45:24 PM
Nice unit. Let me know how you like yours, and post pics.


Title: Re: Another one bites the dust
Post by: djrashonal on February 21, 2010, 09:40:33 PM
Nice unit. Let me know how you like yours, and post pics.
I'll let you know when i get mine, for now, adam's already got his (the prototype)
http://ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=30838.15 (http://ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=30838.15)
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Title: Re: Another one bites the dust
Post by: duc996 on February 21, 2010, 10:14:12 PM
Sorry to hear about your misfortune, glad you're ok.That's more important than anything.


Title: Re: Another one bites the dust
Post by: fouramdesigns on February 22, 2010, 04:58:37 AM
I'll let you know when i get mine, for now, adam's already got his (the prototype)

I like it, but it's almost a little "too" naked. If that's possible on our bikes. I would have a pod fabricated, with the gauge slightly recessed, powder coated black. To fill in the area a bit more. But it looks good. What sensors were needed?

Sorry to hear about your misfortune, glad you're ok.That's more important than anything.
  Thank you 996, means a lot from you guys


Title: Re: Another one bites the dust
Post by: rockaduc on February 22, 2010, 12:53:54 PM
Sorry to hear about your spill, but glad you are mostly ok though. Good luck with the re-build!!!
 Make sure to post pics when you're done!!!!    [beer]


Title: Re: Another one bites the dust
Post by: fouramdesigns on February 23, 2010, 11:02:06 AM
Quat D called me yesterday, they're recommending this unit with my DP ECU :
http://www.rexxer.eu/e_rexxer.html (http://www.rexxer.eu/e_rexxer.html)

Any experience?


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