Hankook Ventus V12 evo K110 (http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Hankook&tireModel=Ventus+V12+evo+K110&partnum=15WR7K110XL&autoMake=Honda&autoYear=2004&autoModel=Accord%20Cpe%20EX%20V6%206SP&autoModClar=)
I need to get a set of winter and summer tires (I like to run dedicated snow tires in the winter) and am considering these heavily.
Anyone here run them personally?
I've been running Hankook snow tires on my wife's cars for a few years now and run the high mileage commuter type tires on mine. I was thinking of trying one of Hankook's summer tires for her car (like those you link to) to replace the trashed stock tires on her summer rims. Nothing bad to say about the other ones I've been using and if I recall correctly I remember a good writeup on their summer tires in some magazine.
What kind of car do you have?
I run Cooper's on my Jetta. They seem to be working out nicely. My Lexus tires had an un-timely death after one year of use (came new on the RX when I bought it). Well, the steel belts were literally coming apart, so I replaced with Cooper's too.
My Jetta came with Z-Rated Michellin's and I got 66k miles out of them.........
Why not an all-weather tire or do you have some sort of sports car that requires winter tires?
Quote from: cyrus buelton on February 20, 2010, 12:51:25 PM
What kind of car do you have?
I run Cooper's on my Jetta. They seem to be working out nicely. My Lexus tires had an un-timely death after one year of use (came new on the RX when I bought it). Well, the steel belts were literally coming apart, so I replaced with Cooper's too.
My Jetta came with Z-Rated Michellin's and I got 66k miles out of them.........
Why not an all-weather tire or do you have some sort of sports car that requires winter tires?
All seasons = not too great at anything
^
That's the way I feel about all seasons.
The car is an 04 Accord Coupe with the v6 and 6spd manual.
Im at an impasse right now. I could get some used studdless snow tires on steel wheels from a friend of a friend for $580, though I'd probably offer 475 or 500 based on what the are new. These have one winter on them.
If I got these, id still have to get some summer tires in roughly 5-6weeks, when I expect (fingers crossed) the weather to improve.
Or. ..
I just get a set of summer tires now, be careful until it's a little warmer and buy snows on steel wheels next fall.
ATM I drive around 20,000 miles a year. Even during the winter here (NWPA) the roads are normally clear. Its just a little cold for a summer type tire.
Forgot to add I have to do something in the next few days.
I need 4 good tires to get through PA inspection, and the 10 days I have to drive with no sticker is half gone.
Quote from: lethe on February 20, 2010, 12:54:01 PM
All seasons = not too great at anything
Then you make the beast with two backsing suck at driving in the snow.
We've gotten pounded the last week or so.
I drive the Jetta as the wife gets the 4WD as she spent most of her driving years in Florida.
Maybe I am just a good snow driver and you suck.
Maybe it is the front wheel drive and the torque of the TDI motor.
No make the beast with two backsing clue, but I have no problems driving in the snow with them.
I have zero reason to drop 700$ on "snow tires" unless I had a rear-wheel drive sports car.
Quote from: cyrus buelton on February 20, 2010, 01:07:09 PM
Then you make the beast with two backsing suck at driving in the snow.
We've gotten pounded the last week or so.
I drive the Jetta as the wife gets the 4WD as she spent most of her driving years in Florida.
Maybe I am just a good snow driver and you suck.
Maybe it is the front wheel drive and the torque of the TDI motor.
No make the beast with two backsing clue, but I have no problems driving in the snow with them.
I have zero reason to drop 700$ on "snow tires" unless I had a rear-wheel drive sports car.
No suckage here. But snows do make a difference even to the best drivers, but then again you only do drive across the street. [cheeky]
Quote from: lethe on February 20, 2010, 01:09:46 PM
No suckage here. But snows do make a difference even to the best drivers, but then again you only do drive across the street. [cheeky]
Nah, I go out driving in the evenings in the Jetta during snow falls.
It is fun and miss all the snow of northern Indiana.
Quote from: lethe on February 20, 2010, 01:09:46 PM
No suckage here. But snows do make a difference even to the best drivers, but then again you only do drive across the street. [cheeky]
Gotta agree with lethe.
I've driven in hard core winter snowfall all my life. It's not my skill that's lacking.
I buy tires to do the best job they can in a given situation.
Don't get me wrong, I've had all seasons before and found them to be adequate.
With a fwd car, and 10,000 miles per winter average, Im spending enough time out on the roads that I want the best traction I can get.
It just happens to come with a full on snow tire.
The opposite is a full on summer tire
which is what I'm shopping for;)
Tirerack.com [thumbsup]
On my VW stock tire size is 195/55/16. In the summer I run 225/45/17, in the winter 185/65/15.
The other advantage to having a second set of rims is I think tires last longer if they're only put on the rims one time, plus I switch out myself one wheel at a time for free. No more waiting around the tire shop to pay to have the tires swapped.
Quote from: cyrus buelton on February 20, 2010, 01:07:09 PM
Then you make the beast with two backsing suck at driving in the snow.
We've gotten pounded the last week or so.
I drive the Jetta as the wife gets the 4WD as she spent most of her driving years in Florida.
Maybe I am just a good snow driver and you suck.
Maybe it is the front wheel drive and the torque of the TDI motor.
No make the beast with two backsing clue, but I have no problems driving in the snow with them.
I have zero reason to drop 700$ on "snow tires" unless I had a rear-wheel drive sports car.
Would you run race slicks on your S4R for street use?
How about ice racing tires?
On should run the proper tires for the proper application.
All seasons suck for all seasons.
Quote from: sno_duc on February 20, 2010, 01:37:43 PM
Tirerack.com [thumbsup]
On my VW stock tire size is 195/55/16. In the summer I run 225/45/17, in the winter 185/65/15.
The other advantage to having a second set of rims is I think tires last longer if they're only put on the rims one time, plus I switch out myself one wheel at a time for free. No more waiting around the tire shop to pay to have the tires swapped.
Re: tirerack. . .
been there :)
all seasons = no seasons
I have Michelin X-Ice on the focus and they have proven to be perfect for winter driving. I have Dunlop Direzza's in the summer and they have been pretty good but are starting to get a little loud and imo suffer a bit in the wet.
The S4 came with no season Michelins but at 280 bucks a tire I'm not too keen on replacing them and they are performing and wearing admirably. Traction isn't really a problem with qauttro though.
Direzza's were my second choice.
But for $91 a tire for the Hankook's, I'll give em a shot.
All weather tires are a compromise.
All weather tires are useless in snow over 4".
Coefficient of friction is coefficient of friction.
Do I run snow tires in the winter? Not usually, but I don't live where Monsterlover lives nor do I face the incredible commuting lethe does.
I run the ventus v12 on my gti, i just got them put on relatively recently. Before that i had bf goodrich g-forces and compared to the g-forces, the hankooks are very quiet. They don't grip the road quite as well as the g-forces but they work well as long as you're looking for a sporty summer tire for the street. Ive also driven a little aggressively during the pouring rain and they still grip pretty well in the wet. Hopefully that helps.
It does, thanks!!!
I've had Toyo T1-S, Sumitomo HTR Z II, and Falken Azenis ST-115 tires on my Jetta over the last 7-8 years, in addition to the stock Michelins. All of them are excellent summer tires, except for the stockers. The Falkens are a little less adequate in heavy rain, but being compared to Toyos really isn't fair, since I think the Toyos cost 2X as much.
Also, I run Nokians in winter that kick ass, but are also $$$.
C'mon ML-we all know you're a Kumho kinda guy.
I guess I have a different opinion, but never been involved in a snow related accident and grew up driving in Northern Indiana and been in snow states since. Of course, not as much as some, but still snow none the less.
Never had snow tires. Never a need. Tires on my car have always worked.
Don't need a performance tire for any driving conditions.
I drive a make the beast with two backsing diesel Jetta and a Lexus RX300, none of which are performance vehicles, so what I put on them seems to work out fine for us.
Carry on.
My current Cooper All Seasons on my Jetta did just fine in 7in of snow a week or so ago.
No reason for me to spend another 700$ on dedicated snow tires and rims.
Quote from: MrIncredible on February 21, 2010, 08:36:26 AM
C'mon ML-we all know you're a Kumho kinda guy.
I like the v710's a lot.
I suspect they wouldn't last too long on the street though [evil]
Quote from: cyrus buelton on February 21, 2010, 08:42:35 AM
I guess I have a different opinion, but never been involved in a snow related accident and grew up driving in Northern Indiana and been in snow states since. Of course, not as much as some, but still snow none the less.
Never had snow tires. Never a need. Tires on my car have always worked.
Don't need a performance tire for any driving conditions.
I drive a make the beast with two backsing diesel Jetta and a Lexus RX300, none of which are performance vehicles, so what I put on them seems to work out fine for us.
Carry on.
My current Cooper All Seasons on my Jetta did just fine in 7in of snow a week or so ago.
No reason for me to spend another 700$ on dedicated snow tires and rims.
You also live in the flatlands, you might have a harder time if you had to go up and down mountains covered in snow (and more of it).
How did this turn into a snow-driving pissing contest (don't eat the yellow stuff, BTW) when he's pricing summer tires. [popcorn] ;D
quick response.
loved my hankook summer tires. had the k106 sport, things stuck like glue, and had even better wet traction.
currently we are runnning new continental extreme-contact all seasons on the mini R56. they are incredible in every type of condition you can think of.
Quote from: somegirl on February 21, 2010, 06:15:40 PM
You also live in the flatlands, you might have a harder time if you had to go up and down mountains covered in snow (and more of it).
Your right, but ML lives in Western PA.....not exactly the Rockies.
I haven't driven with any of the tires your looking at...
but since everyone else is throwing out various recomendations you didn't ask for, I can't help myself [laugh]
I'm running some Goodyear Eagle GTs (they were having a great goodyear sell at the time), and they are excellent tires in varing summer conditions. They have been wonderful on rainy days especially. A little noisy sometimes though.
I'm not a big Goodyear fan, but these have been pretty damn nice
To update this thread. . .
I ended up getting a set of Sumitomo HTR- ZIII's from tires-easy.com
I think I had like $400 total into it after shipping them in and paying for mount and balance.
That was at the beginning of May and after probably 7500 miles they're all shot :(
I have my car at the Honda dealer for an oil change, alignment and tire balance (car was pulling right and had a vibration in it) They just called me and said the rears were like slicks and fronts are cupped bad.
I have a call into tires-easy and am waiting for a claim rep to call me back.
Even though they're max performance summer tires I expected them to go a little more than 7500 miles :P
Quote from: Monsterlover on October 05, 2010, 06:00:27 AM
To update this thread. . .
I ended up getting a set of Sumitomo HTR- ZIII's from tires-easy.com
I think I had like $400 total into it after shipping them in and paying for mount and balance.
That was at the beginning of May and after probably 7500 miles they're all shot :(
I have my car at the Honda dealer for an oil change, alignment and tire balance (car was pulling right and had a vibration in it) They just called me and said the rears were like slicks and fronts are cupped bad.
I have a call into tires-easy and am waiting for a claim rep to call me back.
Even though they're max performance summer tires I expected them to go a little more than 7500 miles :P
I would too, but I'll bet they'll want a receipt for the alignment 'before' installation to honor any claim.
I can produce that :)
Quote from: Monsterlover on October 05, 2010, 06:00:27 AM
To update this thread. . .
I ended up getting a set of Sumitomo HTR- ZIII's from tires-easy.com
AKA... lethargic-rubber.com....
tires easy... [laugh] [laugh] [laugh] [laugh] [laugh] [laugh]
See? This is why
we differentiate 8)
Too bad Cyrus isn't here to come up with some bullshit about his cousin that's the CEO of BFGoodrich and how you should've gone with all-seasons and you wouldn't've had a problem with them wearing out that fast.
;D
[laugh]
Quote from: Rameses on October 05, 2010, 08:35:33 AM
Too bad Cyrus isn't here to come up with some bullshit about his cousin that's the CEO of BFGoodrich and how you should've gone with all-seasons and you wouldn't've had a problem with them wearing out that fast.
;D
Generals like the ones that came stock on my S10 do last forever, then again they seem not to be made of rubber and instead the same hard plastic as Powerwheels tires,
There's a reason they last that long.
Traction and tread life have always been inversely proportional
;D
I used summer tires through 3 winters with no poblem.. got a set of all seasons toyo proxes 4s for 2 winters.. didn't change anything.. I now have summer tires on a diff set of rims and with the baby in the car and over 300 ft lbs on low boost ill be getting a set of m+s (mud n snows) on the 17" stockers now.. dnt knw which ones just yet..