Awesome! [bow_down] Skydive from 120,000 feet and break the sound barrier in free fall.
For those that haven't seen Kittinger's 1960 jump from just under 103,000 feet (there's a Discovery special on it)...it was amazing. I can't imagine the feeling of being alone on a balloon at that height. [puke]
http://www.redbullstratos.com/ (http://www.redbullstratos.com/)
that must have been a very odd feeling. complete solitude and open to everything.
when i first saw the thing on discovery about the jump i was a bit freaked out. the more i thought about it the more i liked the idea. not only are you doing something that others havne't. it's also just you and your gear. no room or time for second thoughts or fear by the time you get into the basket.
anyone feel like skydiving? lol
Quote from: KnightofNi on February 23, 2010, 10:56:45 AM
no room or time for second thoughts or fear by the time you get into the basket.
No room agreed...plenty of time as you float up though. :o
Quote from: Triple J on February 23, 2010, 11:13:26 AM
No room agreed...plenty of time as you float up though. :o
haha, yes. but by that point you are all in.
no sense in getting nervous then. you should spent the time thinking of all the moves you will be pulling off on your 5 minute free fall.
5 minute somersault
;D
Quote from: Monsterlover on February 23, 2010, 03:23:04 PM
5 minute somersault
;D
which leads to 5 min of [puke]
and then hiooping that it doesn't hit you as you are landing. lol.
I saw a bit of a documentary/commercial about the event on Red Bull tv. Looks excoting
new graphic
(http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2010/03/16/science/16tierney_graphic/16tierney_graphic-popup.jpg)
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/16/science/16tier.html (http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/16/science/16tier.html)
mitt
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terminal_velocity (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terminal_velocity)
Quote from: bobspapa on March 18, 2010, 07:06:20 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terminal_velocity (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terminal_velocity)
That's why he is going so high...less dense air = less drag = more speed. [evil]
Quote from: Triple J on March 19, 2010, 06:09:03 AM
That's why he is going so high...less dense air = less drag = more speed. [evil]
I had thought terminal velocity maxed out at 120... that's why I looked it up.
120 may be light speed for Randall..... but it's a far cry from breaking the sound barrier in the real world [laugh]
bummer...
http://www.redbullstratos.com/JumpOnHold.aspx (http://www.redbullstratos.com/JumpOnHold.aspx)
Oct 18, 2010
Red Bull GmbH and Red Bull North America Inc have decided to stop the Red Bull Stratos programme with immediate effect.
Felix Baumgartner had been scheduled to undertake a stratospheric balloon flight to 120,000ft (36.5km) and attempt a freefall jump that would, for the first time, reach supersonic speeds, as well as deliver valuable scientific data.
Despite the fact that many other people over the past 50 years have tried to break Colonel (Ret) Joe Kittinger's altitude record, and that other individuals have sought to work with Red Bull in an attempt to break his record, Daniel Hogan claims to own certain rights to the project and filed a multi-million-dollar lawsuit earlier this year in a Californian court.
Red Bull has acted appropriately in its prior dealings with Mr Hogan, and will demonstrate this as the case progresses. Due to the lawsuit, we have decided to stop the project until this case has been resolved.
That's just plain make the beast with two backsed up. They have been working on this project for a couple of years. Why is this coming up now? [bang]
What a prick. Mr. Hogan, hater of all things cool.
Says a little more.
http://austrianindependent.com/news/Sports/2010-10-13/4900/%27Red_Bull_Stratos%27_grounded_by_lawsuit (http://austrianindependent.com/news/Sports/2010-10-13/4900/%27Red_Bull_Stratos%27_grounded_by_lawsuit)
Actually, this one is a bit better.
http://www.courthousenews.com/2010/04/27/26753.htm (http://www.courthousenews.com/2010/04/27/26753.htm)
Not much "recent" stuff after November. Guess it won't be happening anytime soon.
Quote from: Triple J on March 19, 2010, 06:09:03 AM
That's why he is going so high...less dense air = less drag = more speed. [evil]
Not to mention sound being slower in the altitude range they are talking about
well it does sound like redbull did exacty what he said basically stole his idea and such for the entire thing, and didn't want to pay up. and now they have to stop.
lovely......the way I see it is this. If a party approaches a company and then the co decides against it that ok. Then a company a few years later decides to move forward with the project so be it. If the man that approached red bull did not trade mark his idea then who is to say who owns what. He voluntarily shared his info with them. I don;t think he has a case but then again I did not go to law school or have any legal training.Any Lawyers care to comment on this from a purely personal point of view?
one of my goals this year is to skydive before Sept.
look redbull is a big enough company that if they were right they would have not stopped the thing.
redbull stopping is sort of the smoking gun that they got caught using this guys ideas and such.
then hogan should go ahead and do what these guys did and attempt the jump w/o redbull:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7421435.stm#id7420000/7421600/7421641 (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7421435.stm#id7420000/7421600/7421641)
(click the above link for the article)
...of course, he should also probably make sure the balloon is attached prior to inflation.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michel_Fournier_(adventurer) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michel_Fournier_(adventurer))
Another attempt was made on 16 May 2010 which was unsuccessful due to the skydiver's reserve parachute deploying inside the capsule during a pre-launch test while the balloon was being filled.
The next attempt has been tentatively announced for May 2011.
Quote from: derby on March 06, 2011, 02:25:37 PM
then hogan should go ahead and do what these guys did and attempt the jump w/o
...of course, he should also probably make sure the balloon is attached prior to inflation.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michel_Fournier_(adventurer) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michel_Fournier_(adventurer))
Another attempt was made on 16 May 2010 which was unsuccessful due to the skydiver's reserve parachute deploying inside the capsule during a pre-launch test while the balloon was being filled.
The next attempt has been tentatively announced for May 2011.
These guys should stop while there ahead and still alive.
T-minus 8 hours 45 minutes and counting.
http://www.redbullstratos.com/ (http://www.redbullstratos.com/)
Quote from: derby on October 07, 2012, 08:14:32 PM
T-minus 8 hours 45 minutes and counting.
http://www.redbullstratos.com/ (http://www.redbullstratos.com/)
I can't even believe I'm getting to type this but...
Don't you mean 1 day, 8hrs 45 minutes and counting?
:D
Quote from: Monsterlover on October 07, 2012, 08:22:16 PM
I can't even believe I'm getting to type this but...
Don't you mean 1 day, 8hrs 45 minutes and counting?
:D
either i lost a day or they changed it to tuesday. ;D
edit: they DID change it:
https://www.facebook.com/events/492225154128689/?fref=ts (https://www.facebook.com/events/492225154128689/?fref=ts)
UPDATE: Mission Update: Cold front pushes the launch to Tuesday Oct 9th. We'll send another update as soon as we get the green light for launch.
Quote from: Monsterlover on October 07, 2012, 08:22:16 PM
I can't even believe I'm getting to type this but...
Don't you mean 1 day, 8hrs 45 minutes and counting?
:D
Nice try. [laugh]
There is no try.
I had that one solidly.
;D
Ill do it.. dmf chip in for a big ass balloon or 3000 small ones n ill jump nude with a snow bored n one chute... [evil]
Hey babe, I need to refill my Meds..
30min to launch:
http://www.redbullstratos.com/live/ (http://www.redbullstratos.com/live/)
A different info feed on the site
http://www.redbullstratos.com/the-mission/launch-progress/ (http://www.redbullstratos.com/the-mission/launch-progress/)
3 min 30 until launch.
Dah... bumped back an hour
another weather hold... next update 930 MDT
Started. But I can't see it from phone
On hold due to weather . . . earliest launch 1130h MDT
[popcorn]
It's starting !!!!
Doesn't seem to be. . .
live feed is just open sky and no data feed ???
Quote from: Monsterlover on October 09, 2012, 08:53:34 AM
Doesn't seem to be. . .
live feed is just open sky and no data feed ???
Wind conditions have improved and the balloon is being laid out. Felix Baumgartner's suit up procedure is complete. (http://www.redbullstratos.com/the-mission/launch-progress/)
There's some sort of smaller ballon in the picture. But the big one is being prepped... As noted, he's suited. So hopefully things stay calm so he can have a 'safe' ascent
Quote from: Slide Panda on October 09, 2012, 09:07:48 AM
There's some sort of smaller ballon in the picture. But the big one is being prepped... As noted, he's suited. So hopefully things stay calm so he can have a 'safe' ascent
Where are you seeing this? Im on the youtube channel and it's just sky and clouds.
My Droid won't let me stream the live feed [thumbsdown]
try this site with updates maybe
http://gizmodo.com/5950136/watch-the-first-human-supersonic-space-jump-updating-live?post=53351226 (http://gizmodo.com/5950136/watch-the-first-human-supersonic-space-jump-updating-live?post=53351226)
Mission resumes in 52 minutes.
Quote from: Monsterlover on October 09, 2012, 09:13:18 AM
Where are you seeing this? Im on the youtube channel and it's just sky and clouds.
On the youtube feed. There's a string of what I'm figuring are weather ballons. No really interesting though...
Clock is stopped :(
Looks like the party starts in 30 minutes
Quote from: VisceralReaction on October 09, 2012, 09:20:37 AM
try this site with updates maybe
http://gizmodo.com/5950136/watch-the-first-human-supersonic-space-jump-updating-live?post=53351226 (http://gizmodo.com/5950136/watch-the-first-human-supersonic-space-jump-updating-live?post=53351226)
Sweet, thanks!
Camera is now on the capsule prep... oop now it's a 5 min count down. Looks like they are going for it!
[drool]
Gusts are back... they are aborting. No Launch today :(
:(
Sons a pregnant doges!
Bummer
"Felix looks pissed off" lmao
I wonder how well he slept last night.
Not... As they were scrubbing one of the commentators noted they got him up at 2am for prep.
Are they trying again today?
no news on webpage . . .
They are closely monitoring conditions...
Quote from: Grifo on October 10, 2012, 05:16:18 AM
Are they trying again today?
there was an expectation that the following fewdays would be unfavorable due to weather. that was one of the reasons they were pushing through yesterday's extensive weather holds.
Latest update maybe sunday 10/14
Quote from: Grifo on October 10, 2012, 11:08:09 AM
Latest update maybe sunday 10/14
yup. latimes says sunday:
http://www.latimes.com/business/money/la-fi-mo-red-bull-jump-20121010,0,420812.story (http://www.latimes.com/business/money/la-fi-mo-red-bull-jump-20121010,0,420812.story)
interesting question's.... :-\
the reason that he can break the speed of sound it's because the density of the air is thinner in the stratosphere....
but what will happen when the atmosphere will become thicker as he approaches the ground ?? because the terminal velocity of a object of that size is around 275 kmh (when freefalling in parachute) ???
theoretically the friction should produce heat as he decelerate ??
and yes I'm blonde ... ;D
Quote from: ducatigirl100 on October 10, 2012, 05:45:09 PM
interesting question's.... :-\
the reason that he can break the speed of sound it's because the density of the air is thinner in the stratosphere....
but what will happen when the atmosphere will become thicker as he approaches the ground ?? because the terminal velocity of a object of that size is around 275 kmh (when freefalling in parachute) ???
theoretically the friction should produce heat as he decelerate ??
and yes I'm blonde ... ;D
http://www.reddit.com/r/askscience/comments/117ere/what_will_prevent_felix_baumgartner_from_burning/ (http://www.reddit.com/r/askscience/comments/117ere/what_will_prevent_felix_baumgartner_from_burning/)
Quote from: kopfjäger on October 10, 2012, 06:10:04 PM
http://www.reddit.com/r/askscience/comments/117ere/what_will_prevent_felix_baumgartner_from_burning/ (http://www.reddit.com/r/askscience/comments/117ere/what_will_prevent_felix_baumgartner_from_burning/)
Is that supposed to be an answer? Looks like a bunch of people trying to figure it out to me...might as well link to here! [laugh]
Quote from: ducatigirl100 on October 10, 2012, 05:45:09 PM
the friction should produce heat as he decelerate ??
That's a good question. The answer is likely that he will generate some heat as the atmosphere thickens and he slows down; however, he won't be going fast enough to generate dangerous levels of heat...plus, it's extremely cold at that altitude to begin with so that will also keep the heat down. I'd guess the cold is more of a problem than the heat.
Supersonic missiles and aircraft generate significant heat, but they're going a lot faster. Typical airliners, which can travel fairly close to the speed of sound (within about 100 mph of it at altitude), still get ice deposits on the plane during flight.
Quote from: Triple J on October 10, 2012, 07:34:29 PM
Is that supposed to be an answer? Looks like a bunch of people trying to figure it out to me...might as well link to here! [laugh]
That's a good question. The answer is likely that he will generate some heat as the atmosphere thickens and he slows down; however, he won't be going fast enough to generate dangerous levels of heat...plus, it's extremely cold at that altitude to begin with so that will also keep the heat down. I'd guess the cold is more of a problem than the heat.
Supersonic missiles and aircraft generate significant heat, but they're going a lot faster. Typical airliners, which can travel fairly close to the speed of sound (within about 100 mph of it at altitude), still get ice deposits on the plane during flight.
There ya go :D
Shouldn't the larger surface area of those objects also increase the friction and in return the heat?
Yes
As well and rough textured or irregular surfaces. His suit is far from aerodynamic perfection. The speeds he'll hit will be mostly a factor of atmo density - or lack there of at the altitude he'll be jumping from.
Can't have friction if something ain't there...
As he descends and the amto gets thicker his terminal velocity will reduce proportionally.
And yeah.. hes not going to burn up
"The Red Bull Stratos team estimates Baumgartner will step out of his capsule into temperatures of minus 10 degrees Fahrenheit (minus 23 degrees Celsius). As he plummets, he could experience minus 70 degrees F (minus 56 degrees C) or lower. In such cold air, Baumgartner's body would be unable to maintain a core temperature of 98.6 degrees F (37 degrees C) for long. When body temperature drops to 82 degrees F (28 degrees C), unconsciousness can occur. Death is likely when the body dips below 70 degrees F (21 degrees C)."
- From an article on ways he can die...
Disc channel and velocity have space jump in the program name but no show
Quote from: Darkmonster620 on October 10, 2012, 06:12:55 PM
and very intelligent . . .
tanks [thumbsup]
now lets see him burning up ...lol [popcorn] nah just kidding I'm sure I'll be fine [laugh]
If his suit fails at those temps, hypoxia would kick in and he would hopefully pass out before freezing. Though with the way they are preparing for this, i think he is in great hands.
the amount of force pulling him in is directly related to his mass, so a heavier object would generate more force. He weighs close to nothing so the increasing air resistance would slow him down almost instantly to his terminal velocity.
Quote from: He Man on October 13, 2012, 09:28:29 PM
If his suit fails at those temps, hypoxia would kick in and he would hopefully pass out before freezing. Though with the way they are preparing for this, i think he is in great hands.
the amount of force pulling him in is directly related to his mass, so a heavier object would generate more force. He weighs close to nothing so the increasing air resistance would slow him down almost instantly to his terminal velocity.
Is that a text book answer. :D
If the suit failed id worry less about freezing and more about blood boiling and my body trying to turn itself inside out.
There's hardly any pressure up there.
Not directly accurate, but this probably gives an idea of how much (or little) heat he's likely to generate
http://www.aerospaceweb.org/question/planes/q0199a.shtml (http://www.aerospaceweb.org/question/planes/q0199a.shtml)
gizmodo news stream:
http://gizmodo.com/5951563/first-human-supersonic-space-jump-live-coverage (http://gizmodo.com/5951563/first-human-supersonic-space-jump-live-coverage)
redbull live stream:
http://www.redbullstratos.com/live/ (http://www.redbullstratos.com/live/)
weather hold lifted, ~52min to launch.
that is a big freaking balloon:
(http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/18241f3p7daqujpg/xlarge.jpg)
looks like they just started inflating the balloon.
[popcorn] [thumbsup]
[popcorn]
[popcorn]
Looks like they pushed the launch back another 45 minutes or so
lots of activity goin' on around the capsule ("spacecraft..." *snicker*)... wish we could hear a live radio feed.
Redbull announcer just came on and said launch was scheduled for 12 my time (40 minutes from now) but that wind was falling off rapidly and they may go sooner than that
looks like they just changed the official "broadcast start" to 3m from now.
cue dramatic intro...
launch!!
[clap]
Live on TLC
it's on discovery channel too
wow... -91.8°F outside the capsule at +/- 53,000 ft
Online for me. Sounds like they aren't happy with heating system.
Quote from: mitt on October 14, 2012, 09:32:35 AM
Online for me. Sounds like they aren't happy with heating system.
faceplate heater (to prevent fogging) is not functioning properly
Going through the countdown.
Quote from: TiNi on October 14, 2012, 10:04:00 AM
faceplate heater (to prevent fogging) is not functioning properly
We could have told him to use PinLock [roll]
Man he's getting really close to jumping and my stomach is turning!!!!!!
[bow_down]
[clap]
[thumbsup]
Damn
[thumbsup] [thumbsup]
[bow_down]
[clap] [clap] [clap]
gotta love that!
[clap] [clap] [clap]
[clap] [clap] [clap]
[bow_down]
WOW!
And he landed on his feet! [thumbsup] [clap] [clap]
WHEW! ;D [thumbsup] [bow_down]
good work [popcorn] [thumbsup]
When he went into a flat spin, it was driving me nuts, but you could hear him breathing in a controlled manner. Thats all that I needed to hear!
+11tyb!
video is live for the post-event press conference:
http://www.redbullstratos.com/live (http://www.redbullstratos.com/live)
Alright, fine. I'll go buy a make the beast with two backsing red bull.
Jesus. The lengths some people will go to... [roll]
If I wasn't busy doing yard work I would have beaten him to it. [laugh]
I wonder if Red Bull or him will ever publicly say how much this stunt cost? Wonder who made the suit, capsule, balloon, etc.? Pretty damn amazing no matter how much it cost! [thumbsup] [bow_down] Who thinks up stunts like this? ???
Google said the suit was a quarter mil
Quote from: fastwin on October 14, 2012, 03:50:52 PM
If I wasn't busy doing yard work I would have beaten him to it. [laugh]
I wonder if Red Bull or him will ever publicly say how much this stunt cost? Wonder who made the suit, capsule, balloon, etc.? Pretty damn amazing no matter how much it cost! [thumbsup] [bow_down] Who thinks up stunts like this? ???
This was by no means a 'stunt'
The guy who pitched the idea sued red bull [popcorn]
the guy has balls of steel. I would have shit myself when I stepped out of the capsule. Kudos to him for achieving such a milestone.
Quote from: kopfjäger on October 14, 2012, 04:45:15 PM
This was by no means a 'stunt'
1st test to see if following the signs to the emergency exit is an option the space station
Quote from: kopfjäger on October 14, 2012, 04:45:15 PM
This was by no means a 'stunt'
What is it then?
A scientific experiment? [roll]
Quote from: ducpainter on October 14, 2012, 05:01:26 PM
What is it then?
A scientific experiment? [roll]
read my semi-joking response above yours
Quote from: ducpainter on October 14, 2012, 05:01:26 PM
What is it then?
A scientific experiment? [roll]
I would say yes.
Quote from: kopfjäger on October 14, 2012, 05:03:08 PM
I would say yes.
If it was NASA Stratos I'd agree.
I'm jaded...you all know that.
I can't buy that it was anything other than advertising because of the Red Bull involvement.
I'll leave now.
Quote from: ducpainter on October 14, 2012, 05:06:30 PM
If it was NASA Stratos I'd agree.
I'm jaded...you all know that.
I can't buy that it was anything other than advertising because of the Red Bull involvement.
I'll leave now.
I am pretty sure there were folks in the control room from NASA.
Quote from: kopfjäger on October 14, 2012, 05:16:34 PM
I am pretty sure there were folks in the control room from NASA.
Lot's of NASA engineers looking for
anything to do these days. ;)
If a human jumping from a balloon could provide important scientific data, you'd think it would have been done before we sent a man into outer space or to the moon...
if any of those things really happened. [laugh]
I mean it's cool and all, but no more significant scientifically than Evel jumping the canyon IMO. Undoubtedly more expensive.
YMMV
It was done before and I thought you were leaving :-*
Quote from: ducpainter on October 14, 2012, 05:23:49 PM
Lot's of NASA engineers looking for anything to do these days. ;)
If a human jumping from a balloon could provide important scientific data, you'd think it would have been done before we sent a man into outer space or to the moon...
if any of those things really happened. [laugh]
I mean it's cool and all, but no more significant scientifically than Evel jumping the canyon IMO. Undoubtedly more expensive.
YMMV
What do you think the original Excelsior project (and Kittinger's jump) was for?
Quote from: kopfjäger on October 14, 2012, 05:29:26 PM
It was done before and I thought you were leaving :-*
Quote from: derby on October 14, 2012, 05:31:02 PM
What do you think the original Excelsior project (and Kittinger's jump) was for?
So why do it again if not to plaster the Red Bull name all over the world?
Quote from: kopfjäger on October 14, 2012, 05:29:26 PM
It was done before and I thought you were leaving :-*
'I have the right to remain silent...but not the ability.' :-* Ron White
Quote from: ducpainter on October 14, 2012, 05:34:09 PM
'I have the right to remain silent...but not the ability.' :-* Ron White
:D [drink]
Quote from: ducpainter on October 14, 2012, 05:32:55 PM
So why do it again if not to plaster the Red Bull name all over the world?
Red Bull doesn't need anymore advertising, MotoGP and F1 give them plenty. :D
Dammit, am I the only one on this planet not sponsored by Red Bull or Monster? Where is my entitlement sponsorship? [laugh] [laugh]
Quote from: kopfjäger on October 14, 2012, 05:38:36 PM
Red Bull doesn't need anymore advertising, MotoGP and F1 give them plenty. :D
Clearly the Red Bull people think otherwise ;D
This was a stunt, absurdly high-end, but still a stunt.
and I missed it due to ... not gonna curse here . . .
Quote from: ducpainter on October 14, 2012, 05:32:55 PM
So why do it again if not to plaster the Red Bull name all over the world?
Materials and technology have come a long way in the subsequent 52 years.
Also, judging from the records broken, there was stuff left to do.
If it wasn't of interest/value to NASA and the military, they wouldn't have assisted in order to get all the sensor data from Felix's body/suit.
Sounds like a mutually beneficial relationship to me. Red Bull gets a lot of publicity, scientists get a lot of data to crunch.
I can see the sponsor decals on future interplanetary rovers in my mind.....
stunt or not it was a risk for Red Bull to sponsor the jump....
what kind of PR nightmare would it have been if all didn't go as planned?
Quote from: fastwin on October 14, 2012, 05:51:59 PM
Dammit, am I the only one on this planet not sponsored by Red Bull or Monster? Where is my entitlement sponsorship? [laugh] [laugh]
I was in talks with them back in my DH race days. Never got a deal, so no you are not the only one ;)
Anyone found a good video of the actual jump and free fall? I had to stop watching live right at 120,000ft.
mitt
I have not seen any on board footage of the jump, just what was shot from the capsule and from the ground/helos
Quote from: mitt on October 15, 2012, 07:06:21 AM
Anyone found a good video of the actual jump and free fall? I had to stop watching live right at 120,000ft.
mitt
full jump:
Red Bull Stratos 120000 ft/36km jump Felix Baumgartner HD (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rAeB4K8yDT0#)
onboard:
Red Bull Stratos - Felix Baumgartner On Board ( Helmet ) Cam [full HD] Freefall Jump 128000 Ft (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3KrhbiFylCo#)
Like the lunar landing I think it was all faked in a studio! [laugh] [laugh]
Seriuosly, that was some hard core cool shit. Imagine what was going through his mind as he saluted and stepped off the edge of the capsule. Yeah, I have gone on some good rides but nothing like that one. [thumbsup] ;) The "death spiral" was pretty damn scary. Glad he made it through that trauma and landed on his feet. [popcorn] [bow_down]
Glad to be alive to say I got to watch it. Yeager busted the speed of sound a couple of years before I was here... but how cool to have both of those events in what's left of my memory banks! ;D ;)
Awesome. Damn high, can't imagine what being up there feels like.. how come he didn't free fall longer though?
Quote from: cokey on October 15, 2012, 08:53:25 AM
Awesome. Damn high, can't imagine what being up there feels like.. how come he didn't free fall longer though?
that time lost was because he accelerated to a much higher speed and needed more time to decelerate. so his overall avereage speed was higher over a longer distance. hence it was a shorter time. its hard to imagine that he jumped almost 25,000+ feet higher yet was more than 20 seconds faster!
Ah ok.. That view was crazy
Quote from: cokey on October 15, 2012, 08:53:25 AM
Awesome. Damn high, can't imagine what being up there feels like.. how come he didn't free fall longer though?
I think he did not want to break the longest freefall record out of respect to the old guy [thumbsup]
He didnt have enough altitude to do it. he had 40 more seocnds to cover, but only 6,000 feet to do it.
with all that weight on him and all that speed hes carrying, hes going much faster than terminal velocity for a normal human being.
Quote from: He Man on October 15, 2012, 07:43:26 PM
He didnt have enough altitude to do it. he had 40 more seocnds to cover, but only 6,000 feet to do it.
with all that weight on him and all that speed hes carrying, hes going much faster than terminal velocity for a normal human being.
I beg to differ. Here's a jump with a tennis ball.
http://youtu.be/PlCBBlYr5uU (http://youtu.be/PlCBBlYr5uU)
With a car. ;)
http://youtu.be/mH5bvGQ1KL8 (http://youtu.be/mH5bvGQ1KL8)
Quote from: kopfjäger on October 15, 2012, 07:59:46 PM
I beg to differ. Here's a jump with a tennis ball.
http://youtu.be/PlCBBlYr5uU (http://youtu.be/PlCBBlYr5uU)
Which shows you exactly what He Man is talking about.
To put it in ballistics terms you're more familiar with, all the extra gear on him gave him a higher sectional density than your average skydiver. Laid out flat, because of the extra mass of his equipment, air resistance didn't present a proportional up-force until Felix hit a higher velocity than your average skydiving human.
In the video you posted, the skydivers initially go vertical to catch up to the tennis ball, then flatten out to stay close to it. As they try repeatedly to grab it, they wind up going below it, then flattening out to "float" back up to it.
I think some dude named 'Newton' covered this a few years ago. :D
That all objects ACCELERATE at the same speed, but their terminal velocity is determined by sectional density and air density. A feather has a very low sectional density. It'll accelerate at the same speed as a penny or a human in a vacuum. If Felix had dropped a feather at the same time he hopped off the ledge, it likely would have kept up with him for the first 60,000 feet or so as there was no air to resist its fall. The exact same reason he was able to go supersonic. Add an atmosphere and the feather's terminal velocity goes to crap.
Quote from: Buckethead on October 15, 2012, 08:23:41 PM
That all objects ACCELERATE at the same speed, but their terminal velocity is determined by sectional density and air density. A feather has a very low sectional density. It'll accelerate at the same speed as a penny or a human in a vacuum. If Felix had dropped a feather at the same time he hopped off the ledge, it likely would have kept up with him for the first 60,000 feet or so as there was no air to resist its fall. The exact same reason he was able to go supersonic. Add an atmosphere and the feather's terminal velocity goes to crap.
Yeah, but if a chicken and half could lay an egg and a half in a day and a half, how long would it take a grasshopper with a wooden leg to kick all the seeds out of a dill pickle? :D
12 fortnights, roughly. ;D
Redbull should have included a treadmill in this plan
But then it never would have even taken off.
Quote from: Buckethead on October 15, 2012, 08:52:31 PM
But then it never would have even taken off.
It most definitely would, if the wind was blowing from the east. ;)
I saw this quote elsewhere, some folks are just idiots. [bang]
This is nothing compared to the Project Manhigh and Project Excelsior jumps. The Excelsior jump at 107,000+ feet made by Joseph Kittinger in 1959 was the gnarliest thing a human has ever done. True.. this Red Bull guy went eleven thousand feet higher in his gondola, which is truly ballsy, indeed, but Kittinger doing it in '59 with the equipment that was available and not even knowing if a human could survive that ascension or free fall, (not to mention that Kittinger's record was intact until THIS YEAR) simply dwarfs this fella's accomplishment. Mr. Kittinger is eternally memorialized in the Natl. Air Force Museum and this dude will be lucky to grace a red bull display for the next few months. Nice try.
Quote from: kopfjäger on October 15, 2012, 11:55:25 PM
I saw this quote elsewhere, some folks are just idiots. [bang]
This is nothing compared to the Project Manhigh and Project Excelsior jumps. The Excelsior jump at 107,000+ feet made by Joseph Kittinger in 1959 was the gnarliest thing a human has ever done. True.. this Red Bull guy went eleven thousand feet higher in his gondola, which is truly ballsy, indeed, but Kittinger doing it in '59 with the equipment that was available and not even knowing if a human could survive that ascension or free fall, (not to mention that Kittinger's record was intact until THIS YEAR) simply dwarfs this fella's accomplishment. Mr. Kittinger is eternally memorialized in the Natl. Air Force Museum and this dude will be lucky to grace a red bull display for the next few months. Nice try.
I'm not seeing the idiotic part...
Quote from: kopfjäger on October 15, 2012, 09:14:03 PM
It most definitely would, if the wind was blowing from the east. ;)
judged by a european or an african swallow???
Please explain . ..
(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/282392_373965506012713_1048096430_n.jpg)
Coyote is wearing a special low drag fur suit.
Sponsorship by ACME has its benefits
:D
Quote from: Buckethead on October 15, 2012, 08:23:41 PM
in a vacuum.
^^^ That is the part that most folks don't thing about
Quote from: zooom on October 16, 2012, 06:11:53 AM
judged by a european or an african swallow???
[laugh]
Quote from: Monsterlover on October 16, 2012, 09:59:57 AM
Coyote is wearing a special low drag fur suit.
Sponsorship by ACME has its benefits
:D
[thumbsup] [laugh]
And yes... I do thing about it. ;)
i dink about thing all da dime!!!!
http://amyshirateitel.com/2012/10/16/redbulls-stratos-stunt/ (http://amyshirateitel.com/2012/10/16/redbulls-stratos-stunt/)
Interesting article on what was done and accomplished, and how it compares to Kittengers attempt.
BBC is doing a special on it as they said. Though i agree those 2 hours was mostly silence and bull shit. i would of loved to hear some cool stuff and some graphics about what not.
People always gotta pregnant dog about something.
I thought it was cool as hell.
Did I have questions? Sure.
But I was able to find answers online in about 8 seconds.
I thought it was cool as hell, too, but still pretty much a stunt
I never get bored with science! Give me as much info as possible while the guy is floating for 2 hours.
Two hour special on national geographic this coming sunday 7pm eastern
Quote from: Grifo on November 08, 2012, 06:42:32 AM
Two hour special on national geographic this coming sunday 7pm eastern
Thanks [thumbsup]
Back from the dead, sorta:
http://www.wired.com/2014/10/googles-search-czar-just-smashed-felix-baumgartners-sky-dive-record/?mbid=synd_slate (http://www.wired.com/2014/10/googles-search-czar-just-smashed-felix-baumgartners-sky-dive-record/?mbid=synd_slate)
Saw that. The NYT take on it:
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/25/science/alan-eustace-jumps-from-stratosphere-breaking-felix-baumgartners-world-record.html?_r=0 (http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/25/science/alan-eustace-jumps-from-stratosphere-breaking-felix-baumgartners-world-record.html?_r=0)