I am considering getting a billet gas cap for bling factor. How risky is this if it doesn't have a lock? I don't park my bike outside at night, and if i ride it somewhere it may only be out for a few hours. I guess it depends on where i live too.
anyone have any thoughts? i ahve heard of people punching holes in tanks down south to steal gas. i guess this way they can just have it, right? [roll]
oh, and does anyone know if these fit a 696?
http://www.carbon-imports.com.au/product_info.php?products_id=97 (http://www.carbon-imports.com.au/product_info.php?products_id=97)
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Question: Does your car have a locking gas cap? I drive my cage most days of the week. DIdn't come with a locking gas cap, never needed a locking gas cap. When gas shot up to $5 in ATL for a bit, I considered getting one to keep folks from siphoning from my tank while I was away. Didn't end up doing it, didn't need it. With the bike, this is a much smaller concern. Much much smaller. How long are you away from it when it isn't put away? For me, not very, I'm on it and riding. Filling up is much easier with a non-locking gas cap.
point taken. Ha, they could steal $6 in gas! ha ha ha
anyways, will that thing fit? the company wont get back to me.
1) most thieves are too exposed in siphoning gas from a motorcycle. Not much gas to steal either!
2) i'd rather have them steal the gas and do no damage if at all possible. PITA for oneself with no gas. But better and cheaper than fixing damage.
3) it's easier to STEAL your motorcycle (ie: roll away or load into a truck) than it is to steal the gasoline out of the fuel tank
Only negative about a non-locking gascap (trick looking ones) is that people will want to touch / play with them. Usually more damage from this or if they should drop the cap while off and damage it.
Not sure based on this picture:
(http://hellforleathermagazine.com/images/2009_Ducati_Monster_1100_tank.jpg)
The guys at Motowheels will know whether older monster fuel caps like the one you pictured are interchangeable with new style. no fhe.
I've had a non-locking gas cap on my SS for years and I've never had any problem with tampering. YMMV, but I wouldn't worry too much.
I would say depends where you park.
if you park somewhere where lots of people are
-young
-stupid
-drunk
one of ems gonna get the brilliant idea to stick something in there.
examples- college campus, grocery store, bar, any state where you frequently hear 'Hold my beer....now watch this'
Quote from: JEFF_H on February 24, 2010, 01:23:51 PM
...any state where you frequently hear 'Hold my beer....now watch this'
So... pretyy much anywhere?
including my garage
That seems pricey for a gas cap, but it looks cool [thumbsup].
Yean, I'd also be worried about the kids and people with diminished capacity thinking it'd be funny to put crap in there.
If you do decide to get an aftermarket gas cap make darn sure it can breath. Your factory cap lets air in and out. I bought one that had air ports on it but wasn't able to breath right and so it now holds paper on my desk... Very flashy paper weight I might add..
I thought about getting unlockable gas cap,i'm just afraid some jealous mofo might put something in there and mess up my ride.
Quote from: JEFF_H on February 24, 2010, 01:23:51 PM
I would say depends where you park.
if you park somewhere where lots of people are
-young
-stupid
-drunk
one of ems gonna get the brilliant idea to stick something in there.
examples- college campus, grocery store, bar, any state where you frequently hear 'Hold my beer....now watch this'
I live next to a community college. I weep for the future of humanity. But I still don't worry about my gas tanks. Not because nothing bad could happen but rather because I choose not to live in constant fear of bad things happening.
sac
Quote from: Aflac on February 24, 2010, 03:00:47 PM
If you do decide to get an aftermarket gas cap make darn sure it can breath. Your factory cap lets air in and out. I bought one that had air ports on it but wasn't able to breath right and so it now holds paper on my desk... Very flashy paper weight I might add..
Had the same issue. Quick use of a small drill bit on the new gas cap's flange and it was good to go. I had just filled it up (very little air space in the tank) and as fuel was pulled from the tank, air could not fill the void and thus gas did not want to flow. Easy fix. You may be able to do the same.
Quote from: SacDuc on February 24, 2010, 03:11:39 PM
I live next to a community college. I weep for the future of humanity. But I still don't worry about my gas tanks. Not because nothing bad could happen but rather because I choose not to live in constant fear of bad things happening.
sac
Amen.
Topic: Unlockable gas caps. Risky?
I unlock mine all the time, and no problems yet. Just be sure your fingers are clear before you button 'er up again.
if your me, i woudlnt get it. why?
because omse dick could just twist it cause hes bored. then realize it comes off and there goes your gas gap.
trust me. i dont have a lock on my seat casuse people kept sticking shit into it.
mine came unlockable from the factory. how do you guys put gas in your bikes if they don't unlock?
Quote from: justinrhenry on February 24, 2010, 07:23:06 PM
mine came unlockable from the factory. how do you guys put gas in your bikes if they don't unlock?
[laugh]
Exactly what I was thinking through the whole thread.
Non-lockable gas caps. IMO
Its not the likelihood of a few litres of fuel theft that puts me off, its the opportunity that it creates for some pea brained knob to drop some oh-so-funny foreign object in there that I'd be more concerned about.
Unlocking... Non-lockabe... Sheesh, you get the guys drift. Some pedantic ball breakers around here ....lol.
I just got the other model from Carbon Imports, remember these prices are in Aussie $
I have the Oberon screw-on/off cap. The red anodizing turned pink pretty fast, and I need a new o-ring. What ever you get, please don't get a red/gold combination. [puke]
LighTech makes some that appear to be hard anodized and don't fade (PJs Parts sells them). It's a spring-loaded 1/4 turn cap. I like the 1/4-turn much better than the traditional screw on/off cap like the Oberon. I have a LighTech cap on my Bandit.
I have groovy billet/carbon twist off gas caps on half of my bikes and I have never had a problem. I don't think the average yahoo is bike saavy enough to know a locked vs twist off gas cap if they saw it. There is so much more easily committed mischief to get into like pushing your bike over, keying bad words into your tank, etc... ;D I agree that where you park and leave it is generally more important than concerns over siphoned gas. There are lots of places in my town where I wouldn't ride my bike and leave it un-watched but having my gas stolen would be my last concern.
No problems on my Multi...other than I keep looking at it because it is nice. 8)
Another option for you from Slingshot Racing. Cheaper at $99.99. If the one you have pictured will fit, then this one will also.
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2462/3796457674_c773847dda_o.jpg)
yeah that one is sweet. i was thinking a red and black combo. maybe all black.
thanks for the input guys
the 696 is definitely a differet type gas cap than the old monsters. but i've seen a company with them, just can't remember who.
i wouldn't do it, because people are dicks... sugar, piss, or just taking it... just because... no thanks.
I was going to get one. Then one day someone had stuffed paper down my exhaust pipe. I knew who did it but still that was enough for me not to want a non locking gas cap. I love the looks of them, would love to do it, just rather not take the risk.
Question, when you take off the gas cap where do you place it? I love how the stock one just stays there.
Quote from: Heath on February 25, 2010, 01:51:59 PMQuestion, when you take off the gas cap where do you place it? I love how the stock one just stays there.
Often wondered this myself....
When gassing up I just put it on top of the fuel pump. No biggie.
or on the seat if I'm getting off to stretch. or on the top triple.
Quote from: ato memphis on February 26, 2010, 03:53:28 AM
or on the seat if I'm getting off to stretch. or on the top triple.
Wait, you pump gas
while you're sitting on your bike? Not saying that's wrong or anything...it just never occurred to me that one would do that. Interesting. [popcorn]
I only have one key. Not for long as I will have none.
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Quote from: Javamoose on February 26, 2010, 07:54:51 PM
Wait, you pump gas while you're sitting on your bike? Not saying that's wrong or anything...it just never occurred to me that one would do that. Interesting. [popcorn]
All the time
+1.
+1
only way to fill it up all the way safely.
Quote from: Raux on February 27, 2010, 05:06:11 AM
+1
only way to fill it up all the way safely.
Huh. Guess I never thought of that, makes sense though.
[laugh] Doesn't apply to you, but a buddy of mine has an HD softtail who's two non-locking gas caps would rattle off as he rode. [laugh] He lost a couple that way.
Quote from: ducwrx on February 27, 2010, 10:09:57 AM
[laugh] Doesn't apply to you, but a buddy of mine has an HD softtail who's two non-locking gas caps would rattle off as he rode. [laugh] He lost a couple that way.
I've seen several non locking caps on Ducs...
go south while riding.
Quote from: Javamoose on February 26, 2010, 07:54:51 PM
Wait, you pump gas while you're sitting on your bike? Not saying that's wrong or anything...it just never occurred to me that one would do that. Interesting. [popcorn]
I usually sit on the bike to pump gas.
Quote from: pompetta on February 28, 2010, 02:11:36 PM
I usually sit on the bike to pump gas.
Me too. It's the only way to get as much into the tank as possible.
I don't get off the bike at all at the gas station, there's no need to. Pay at the pump, pump gas, leave. While in Oregon they even hand you the pump and take your money or put your card in for you. (Unless you're fast like me, then they don't even get to do that.) I pump my own all the time in Washington and don't need help just b/c I am on the other side of the border.
Sometimes if they are slow I even pump gas in the cage in Oregon, but they don't like that so much. Ehh, I say if you are going to have a stupid law like that (you can't pump your own gas in Oregon, except on a moto) than they had better not make me wait around for it if I can do it faster.
The Doc
PS: nothing in this thread should actually be construed as encouraging or even admitting an actual committing of a crime, and I take no responsibility for whatever the heck you do in your own life. Oh and don't even bother sueing me 'cause there isn't anything to win, except the Duc, and that just ins't gonna happen . . .
Quote from: kopfjäger on February 26, 2010, 08:07:32 PM
I only have one key. Not for long as I will have none.
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what dose that mean? none?
switch ignition instead of key ignition is pretty common - but I think the M-Unit allows the fob proximity, like new cars.
i had no idea what he was talking about, i thought he meant key for his gas cap. Whats the M unit? Monster?
motogadget device, i believe www.spieglerusa.com (//http://) is a stateside vendor.
I had all the concerns above but decided it's on my list anyway. My bike parks in the home garage or the work garage, or I'm nearby. Figure someone dick enough to do that is going to do something anyway.
I torn between the oberon and the SSR versions..
oberon: (http://www.monsterparts.com/pc/FUE0419/ACC-TANK/FUE0419.html)
(http://www.monsterparts.com/mm5/graphics/00000001/FUE0419-2.jpg)
SSR (http://www.slingshotracing.net/catalog/ducati-quick-release-gas-cap-p-165.html)
(http://www.slingshotracing.net/catalog/images/!B%28G0bVQB2k~$%28KGrHgoOKicEjlLmZ3G2BK,meNOcP!~~_12.jpg)
i like the oberon. is it available in black?
How does it seal compared to stock?
The locking mechanism shuts it tight - how does that work with these caps?
Quote from: Raux on February 27, 2010, 05:06:11 AM
+1
only way to fill it up all the way safely.
Also the only way to make sure you have no good options if a cager doesn't see you. They are idiots all the time.
I get off my bike to fill it. :P
Quote from: stopintime on March 07, 2010, 09:15:05 AM
The locking mechanism shuts it tight - how does that work with these caps?
The SSR ones screw shut and there is a gasket on the cap. No issues as far as closing go.
Mine (SSR - Multistrada) did have a problem with letting the fuel tank vent...as in it didn't. The cap covered the breather hole when fully shot. A little bit of dremel work (which can't be seen when the cap is on) and the problem was fixed.
Quote from: Triple J on March 07, 2010, 11:02:43 AM
The SSR ones screw shut and there is a gasket on the cap. No issues as far as closing go.
Mine (SSR - Multistrada) did have a problem with letting the fuel tank vent...as in it didn't. The cap covered the breather hole when fully shot. A little bit of dremel work (which can't be seen when the cap is on) and the problem was fixed.
interesting. If I go that rout i may look for more info on this dremel work of yours.
Quote from: DucatiTorrey on March 07, 2010, 01:44:17 PM
interesting. If I go that rout i may look for more info on this dremel work of yours.
It may not be necessary on the Monster ones. I know the Multistrada and Sport Classic ones need it though. Not a big deal IMO, considering the reasonable prices SSR charges.
just found this one on Desmoworld. $150. Anyone know or seen these? Any US distributors?
http://www.desmorados.com/shop/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=2529%3Cbr%3E (http://www.desmorados.com/shop/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=2529%3Cbr%3E)
(http://www.desmorados.com/shop/catalog/images/TD.64.TDC04k.jpg)
and these!
http://www.desmorados.com/shop/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=2528%3Cbr%3E (http://www.desmorados.com/shop/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=2528%3Cbr%3E)
(http://www.desmorados.com/shop/catalog/images/TD.64.TDP04.jpg)
Ciao Torrey,
to understand ... all prices on our webside include 19% German Taxes !
Outside europe you don't have to pay ... means 109 â,¬ / 1.19 = 91.60 â,¬ ( today about 123 USD )
let me know if you need any help
bye
Chris
Quote from: Chris,desmoworld on March 30, 2010, 12:12:02 PM
Ciao Torrey,
to understand ... all prices on our webside include 19% German Taxes !
Outside europe you don't have to pay ... means 109 â,¬ / 1.19 = 91.60 â,¬ ( today about 123 USD )
let me know if you need any help
bye
Chris
Hey Chris, these will fit the 696? I believe this is the first i've seen that fit new monsters. look great!
torrey
Quote from: ungeheuer on February 25, 2010, 12:03:42 AM
Its not the likelihood of a few litres of fuel theft that puts me off, its the opportunity that it creates for some pea brained knob to drop some oh-so-funny foreign object in there that I'd be more concerned about.
Unlocking... Non-lockabe... Sheesh, you get the guys drift. Some pedantic ball breakers around here ....lol.
I put a hand full of popcorn kernels into a gixxer exhaust once. it was make the beast with two backsing hillarious.