Ducati Monster Forum

since i've been looking around for some sets. i've noticed there's only maybe a handful of companies that still make them for the older monsters.

It's seems like everybody is copying the DP/S & P rearsets and came across these on ebay. they almost seem to good to be true.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=160408393589&viewitem=&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWAX%3AIT (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=160408393589&viewitem=&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWAX%3AIT)

i ran the PN# and the MSRP is $675.00, but anybody could put a PN# on a copy.

here are 2 others:
http://www.desmoworks.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=6_400&products_id=454&zenid=42cd2155704c6db3e6d332508de5717f (http://www.desmoworks.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=6_400&products_id=454&zenid=42cd2155704c6db3e6d332508de5717f)

http://www.motowheels.com/italian/myproducts.cfm?parentcategoryid=1395|Monster%20Controls&productID=204&showDetail=1&categoryID=1376|Monster%20Foot%20Controls&vendoridtodisplay=0&filterFor=&collection=168|European%20Motorcycle%20Parts (http://www.motowheels.com/italian/myproducts.cfm?parentcategoryid=1395|Monster%20Controls&productID=204&showDetail=1&categoryID=1376|Monster%20Foot%20Controls&vendoridtodisplay=0&filterFor=&collection=168|European%20Motorcycle%20Parts)

i know the r brake switch might have to be switched to the micro.

What are some of your thoughts regarding the ebay ones or all of them. LMK what ya'll think thanks.

dont see why you cant just get cheaper rearsets for the SBKs (they look cooler) and make a braket to fit them. doesnt seem all that hard. Youd have to give in to GP Shift and find a way to mount that brake lever though.

I think i had these in Alu color

(http://supertjeduc.zenfolio.com/img/v4/p1021433482-4.jpg)

When i bought them they were 175€
And they are very good (i only bought the wrong color ;D)

Hmmmmmmmmmmmm HE MAN, i like your style of thinking. just to make sure we're on the same page he man, is SBK "superbike"? 

This is my thought since im striping my bike down to the frame anyway.

http://www.speedymoto.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=04-0204&Category_Code=SpareRS (http://www.speedymoto.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=04-0204&Category_Code=SpareRS)

Plus

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/DUCATI-848-1098-1198-S-R-REARSETS-REAR-SET-FOOT-PEGS_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem45f13e9445QQitemZ300400153669QQptZMotorcyclesQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/DUCATI-848-1098-1198-S-R-REARSETS-REAR-SET-FOOT-PEGS_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem45f13e9445QQitemZ300400153669QQptZMotorcyclesQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories)

or whaever brand you want

= cheap cool rearsets. the only issue is, im not sure how comfortable it is. id have to play around with it before i feel comfortable enough to weld it on.

The S&P style rear-set has a lot of strength, is good looking and is cheap too.

If you were to buy SBK rear-sets and (billing yourself out at $20/hour) make a bracket to adapt them to the Monster correctly....you'd likely be loosing money as it would take longer than one might imagine to get everything lined up and working properly.

But, because Modding a Monster is a personal affair and $ hardly ever really comes into it...  Go for it!

here's some sets that caught my eye He Man. yours are nice ,but scared about china made stuff.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/DUCATI-1198-1198S-REAR-SETS-REARSETS-FOOT-PEGS-IN-BLACK_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem5190d7d288QQitemZ350322414216QQptZMotorcyclesQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/DUCATI-1198-1198S-REAR-SETS-REARSETS-FOOT-PEGS-IN-BLACK_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem5190d7d288QQitemZ350322414216QQptZMotorcyclesQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories)

these allow you to have reg shifting and seem very adjustable.

you realize that anything you find on ebay thats not labeled as a named brand is most likley made in china right? like the ones you showed. pretty sure they are made in china. howver they do look much nicer!

Im about to pick up those tabs, and TIG weld it to my frame then PC it red. [evil] but i want to pick up the rearsets first so i have an idea of how it would fit.

another thing to think about is the rear brake... on the s2r its moutned onto the rearset

yeah after posting that, i was like those are probably china made too. well they look good.

when figuring out about the rear brake set-up. i've been looking at how the rear brake is on the superbikes.

like this, but it's already ended.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=290406414871&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=290406414871&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT)

well, i emailed podium racing about those sets i posted from ebay. this is what they said.

"We make the rearsets locally in the same facility that we make our Titanium bolts. We do sell all of the parts individually to anyone who has purchased our rearsets. The center to center distance is 75mm."
regards,

they're based in arizona.

i'm not bragging, just wanted to post it to info

yeah i have been looking at podium racing's ti stuff as well. good to know. but they MAKE ti bolts there... somehow that doesn't sound right...

TAft... do you make your own bolts or do you repackage a wholesalers' into kits?
I mean what kind of setup would a company need to make their own bolts?

i can't figure out S&P's website.  i need to brush up on my italian I suppose.

nevermind.  i'm a dolt.  i finally realized google will translate it for me.

actually i still can't figure it.  they say my browser doesn't accept cookies so I can't look at rear sets.  whatever.

I may have to drive over to their shop and check them out!

man. i have just recently found out how much the OE monster sets suck. i'm still taking in ideas about how i want to do my sets. i've noticed that if i had some that were a lot closer to the frame and set back farther would be perfect. but i can't really start messing with anything just yet, because i'm waiting to hear back on a guy selling a seargent seat.

i got a chance to look at stock 1098 rearets. to get it to the stock S2R position (if you were to mount them directly to the frame like the DSS Monsters) they would need to be 2 inches longer and moved foward 2 inches as well.

So if you want to go back and up 2 by 2 inches, welding a frame tab and installing 1098 rearsets would be perfect. thats TOO much for me.i was thinking back 1 inch and up 1 inch. i may still do it and just make a bracket to extend them.

ohhh. when i said closer to the frame i meant inward. it almost feels like i riding a horse. bowlegged.

So I took the plunge and made an offer for them.  Here's my story, to share my experience and hoping to have some of yours:

Made an offer for them and was accepted by the seller. Paid by Paypal (which is a mode of acceptable payment advertised on their site). Guess what? They returned my payment and asked that I pay by bank transfer.  No reason given.  My guess is that Paypal takes a cut from the money received and the seller is trying to avoid that.  To make it worse, I will have to spend about 30 euros to my bank to send the payment to them by bank transfer, and I reckon that the seller's bank will take a cut too.  That'll be a lose-lose situation.

So guys, what are my options?

(1) Complain to Paypal or eBay that I made payment and did not get the goods?  (Of course telling them about the unilateral refund by the seller)

(2) Stand my ground and write to the seller and tell him to honour his ad and take Paypal?

(3) Don't go through with the deal and risk punishment by eBay?  

Any idea what will eBay's stand be on this?  I've never experienced this before in my years on eBay.   I have sent a message to the seller asking him to reconsider a re-payment by Paypal.  Fingers crossed.

Here's the description of the item from the site:
NEW
MADE IN ITALY
IN ERGAL
WORKED FROM the FULL LOAD
ANODIZED BLACK OR SILVER
ADJUSTABLE COMPLETELY
COMPLETE OF LEVER BRAKE AND LEVER CHANGE

PAYMENT WITH PAY PAL OR DIRECT BANK TRANSFER
for any question contact me
worldwide shipment

Cheers

isn't the bank transfer a 'wire?'  same as cash basically, guaranteed funds.  Might be legit, but that's pretty sketchy if you ask me.

I'd go with option 2 if it was me.

+1

Sorry for the thread jack...

I highly, highly doubt they make their own bolts. It is quite involved to make titanium hardware. It does require a hot heading process which the machines are extremely expensive. One of my suppliers that I am very close with was looking at acquiring a hot heading machine....Like $500 K and that is not including the tooling and dies.

Despite the fact they may or may not manufacture their own rear sets does not determine the quality of the product, even if they are subbing the machining out it looks like a decent product.  I have seen stuff made in China that is pretty nice stuff, it all depends on how the quality control is and if they are using the proper material.  Probably a good number of the parts you see from named manufactures are made in China.   

 

thanks for the info

You have the upper hand here.  Their listing specifically states "PAYMENT WITH PAY PAL OR DIRECT BANK TRANSFER".  I would file a dispute with Ebay/Paypal.  I assume you also paid with a credit card?  Then also file a dispute with your credit card company.  File both of those disputes NOW (for non delivery of goods), do not wait for the seller, and inform the seller that you've done so.  I dont see how the seller is going to get out of this, since the listing clearly says PAYMENT WITH PAY PAL..."  The best I would hope for is you get a refund.  If for some reason you get a partial refund from Paypal, file another dispute with your credit card for the remainder.

If the seller is just balking out of the Paypal fees (about 3%, someone remind me...), and you really want the item, consider paying it! At 3% that's only $11, right?

Good luck!

Thanks ... yes, I am on the moral high ground. I just do not understand why the seller refunded me and created this problem.  No response from them to my email to them asking them to accept a re-payment. 

Cheers

i'm confused. is this S&P that refused payment or another company?

You might want to check these guys. Nice stuff and great to deal with.
http://www.ducabike.com/prodotti/file/193/423715091116_big.jpg (http://www.ducabike.com/prodotti/file/193/423715091116_big.jpg)

ohhh man i finally pulled the trigger and bought some aftermarket superbike sets and rear superbike brake mount. i really can't wait, but i hope i didn't get over my head.

Hey slowkitty, if you don't mind me askin. how much did they accept on the rearsets?

Hiya,

Just thought I post an update and closure on the issue of my purchase.  The seller and I communicated and we agreed on the PayPal route.  He was decent about it and took care to ensure that I get the colour that I want.  Reckon that if the goods are as described he will still earn a positive feedback.  Will post pics when I get them.

The seller is not S&P, I think, and although the pegs sold are not described as S&P they certainly look like them.  Having said that, one of the DMF guys made me an offer for his manufactured pegs which are cheaper and I would have taken his offer but for the fact that I have to honour my end of the eBay purchase too.

Düb Lüv, I reckon that it is not proper for me to post the final price openly since these guys are running a business,  so I will respond to you by PM.

Cheers

i hate to mention this, but there was a set of DP/S&P rear sets that sold a couple days ago for $165.

Really? ... ah well, I was looking out for a couple of months and there was nothing. What to do? sigh. 

Let' see what the postman brings. :)

i know i was kinda pissed too because  it did a "buy it now" on some sets a couple days before they were listed. i'm still glad i bought that ones i did. they have a rizoma style adjustment grid. major adjustability and were only $125 shipped.

Show me yours and I'll show you mine ... :)

the sets i bought were originally for a 1098, but i was able to mod them to fit. if you look where they mount to the frame, you can notice the bolts aren't centered. i took a carbide die grinder bit and ground in about 2mm on both holes. then had to shorten and re-tap the rods. what was aswsome they came with 4 rods so i have extras.
these make riding so unbelievably enjoyable now to ride. sooooooo much more comfortable.
(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x251/seusssandm/IMG_9149.jpg)

(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x251/seusssandm/IMG_9150.jpg)


i've noticed when people have low mounts and buy mono or single rider sets that they are kinda suck with mounting their exhaust can clamp. i didn't really like the turn buckle setup, so i came up with this idea. it's a thin steel rod that i bought at lowes for about $2-3, and i bent it to how i needed it. i used a MAP gas torch and used the bolts where i was mounting it to bent the rod into the right shape. each rod took maybe 30 minutes to make.
(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x251/seusssandm/IMG_9151.jpg)

Cool .. the mounting plate is surely fabricated? Such a simple yet workable idea.  Will post pics of what I get from eBay when it comes in! :)   

I can only imagine its just a matter of time when the 696 people get "$150" rear sets. sigh*

even $300 seems cheap right now.

Take heart .... S&P from my Ducati dealer still costs about US$700 for the 2000 Monster :)

An update, folks.

Seems like the rearsets seller had deregistered with eBay and I may have to activate the eBay non-delivery refund.  Sigh, will give him another week then open a case with eBay for the refund.

Was really looking forward to this. 

Anyone selling nice aftermarket rearsets for a 2000 M900ie? 

Cheers

Dont wait a week, do it NOW.  While you're waiting, others are filing disputes too, and any funds left in his Paypal account are being depleted.  If he comes through then just cancel the dispute, that simple. 

Thanks for the heads-up. Will do just that.  Hang on, isn't there the eBay Buyer Protection program if I pay by Paypal (which I did)?

Educate me.  Thanks.

Slowkitty, those were the exact sets/seller I was looking for the other day.  They had been on ebay for months at a minimum, and had good feedback up until a few sales ago.

Pisses me off as I was looking to buy them the other day, and now they are gone.  Moto carries the same rearsets, but at ~650, it's too rich for my blood.

Good luck with getting the money back.  The few times I've had to do it ebay has figured it out for me. [thumbsup]

My gawd, you've wasted a whole day  ???  Get on ebay and file the dispute.  Paypal is a wholly owned subsidiary of eBay, so the dispute process covers Paypal.  Did you use your credit card on Paypal?  If so, then also file a separate dispute with your card company,  because if for some reason Paypal/eBay is unsucessful in getting the funds back from the seller in order to refund you, then your credit card dispute goes after Paypal.  Remember, you paid Paypal, not the seller.  After you file the disputes, then kick back and leisurely educate yourself on any Buyer Protection Programs.  If you read eBay's dispute process, you only have a certain number of DAYS to do this (the paypal dispute), and the clock started when the auction ENDED!   IIRC it's a 45 day timeline! You're already over 30 days into this!  Once that time period is over, your only recourse is your credit card dispute, that is, IF you paid with a credit card...

And if the buyer comes through, or Buy Protection kicks in, or if any of the disputes rules in your favor and you're refunded, you can cancel any remaining disputes.

Get your a** in gear, slowkitty!  ;)

Righto .... disputes filed!

I wonder why this seller with a good rep disappeared into thin air?  If I recall, he had a track record that passed my scrutiny.

Anyone else bought from him?

cheers

A couple of things happened.  After I filed the disputes, the item arrived.  The seller then lodged a claim against me (funny how he only responded after I received the item and signed for it) and I closed the disputes.  I am amazed that the item travelled from Italy to me via several countries.  Anyway, the seller notified me that the item was shipped on 8 April 2010 so I am surprised how UPS only sent it on 30 April 2010:

Tracking number
1Z91369V0477152703
UPS
Delivered, May-03-10, 10:59 AM, SINGAPORE, 079903
DELIVERED, May-03-10, 10:59 AM, SINGAPORE, 07000
DESTINATION SCAN, May-02-10, 23:19 PM, SINGAPORE
DEPARTURE SCAN, May-02-10, 13:10 PM, CHANGI
LOCATION SCAN, May-02-10, 10:56 AM, CHANGI
LOCATION SCAN, May-02-10, 10:10 AM, CHANGI
ARRIVAL SCAN, May-02-10, 08:42 AM, CHANGI
ARRIVAL SCAN, May-02-10, 08:42 AM, CHANGI
DEPARTURE SCAN, May-02-10, 05:21 AM, SHENZHEN
DEPARTURE SCAN, May-02-10, 05:08 AM, SHENZHEN
ARRIVAL SCAN, May-02-10, 02:06 AM, SHENZHEN
DEPARTURE SCAN, May-01-10, 18:27 PM, MUMBAI
ARRIVAL SCAN, May-01-10, 17:09 PM, MUMBAI
ARRIVAL SCAN, May-01-10, 16:38 PM, MUMBAI
DEPARTURE SCAN, May-01-10, 05:02 AM, KOELN (COLOGNE)
LOCATION SCAN, May-01-10, 01:25 AM, KOELN (COLOGNE)
LOCATION SCAN, May-01-10, 01:24 AM, KOELN (COLOGNE)
ARRIVAL SCAN, May-01-10, 00:04 AM, KOELN (COLOGNE)
ARRIVAL SCAN, May-01-10, 00:01 AM, KOELN (COLOGNE)
DEPARTURE SCAN, Apr-30-10, 22:46 PM, BERGAMO
DEPARTURE SCAN, Apr-30-10, 22:46 PM, BERGAMO
EXPORT SCAN, Apr-30-10, 22:16 PM, BERGAMO
UNLOAD SCAN, Apr-30-10, 21:32 PM, BERGAMO
ARRIVAL SCAN, Apr-30-10, 21:27 PM, BERGAMO
ARRIVAL SCAN, Apr-30-10, 21:27 PM, BERGAMO
DEPARTURE SCAN, Apr-30-10, 20:49 PM, BOLOGNA
DEPARTURE SCAN, Apr-30-10, 20:49 PM, BOLOGNA
UPS INTERNAL ACTIVITY / UPS INTERNAL ACTIVITY, Apr-30-10, 19:53 PM, BOLOGNA
LOCATION SCAN, Apr-30-10, 19:50 PM, BOLOGNA
LOCATION SCAN, Apr-30-10, 19:50 PM, BOLOGNA
UPS INTERNAL ACTIVITY / UPS INTERNAL ACTIVITY, Apr-30-10, 19:44 PM, BOLOGNA
UPS INTERNAL ACTIVITY / UPS INTERNAL ACTIVITY, Apr-30-10, 19:35 PM, BOLOGNA
UNLOAD SCAN, Apr-30-10, 19:29 PM, BOLOGNA

All's well that ends well. Pics will follow suit. :)

Cheers