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Title: Anyone familiar with AMT Ertl Models?
Post by: Monster Dave on March 03, 2010, 12:44:20 PM
Hey everyone,

I've been searching high and low on the internet over the last few years trying to find some reference to a collectible Star Trek model that I acquired many years ago from Star Trek III but haven't even come across a single webpage or image of it.

Here it is:

(http://c2.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/113/l_2f8f0a8fa1394916afb94b4d16bda46d.jpg)

I'd really like to be able to know the value of it - it's in C10 condition, no crumpled corners and even still wrapped in the original plastic.

If anyone has any idea about it, please post up! Thanks!
Title: Re: Anyone familiar with AMT Ertl Models?
Post by: Kopfjäger on March 03, 2010, 12:49:14 PM
Ask Andy Stitzer.  :D
Title: Re: Anyone familiar with AMT Ertl Models?
Post by: Monster Dave on March 03, 2010, 12:52:57 PM
Ok, fist of all I had to Google who that was - then it was suddenly not funny and certainly not true.

[beer]


Besides, if you had something in the back of your closet gathering dust that could be worth some moola wouldn't you want to know??!!
Title: Re: Anyone familiar with AMT Ertl Models?
Post by: Speedbag on March 03, 2010, 12:58:48 PM
eBay is your friend.
Title: Re: Anyone familiar with AMT Ertl Models?
Post by: Duck-Stew on March 03, 2010, 01:20:50 PM
You're telling me that w/all the Trekkie-geeks on the intarwebz, you can't find ANYTHING about this model?!?

I dunno, but me thinks your searchin' could use some expandin'...


(and good luck!  I hope it's worth a bundle!)
Title: Re: Anyone familiar with AMT Ertl Models?
Post by: NorDog on March 03, 2010, 01:48:17 PM
Quote from: Duck-Stew on March 03, 2010, 01:20:50 PM
You're telling me that w/all the Trekkie-geeks on the intarwebz, you can't find ANYTHING about this model?!?

I dunno, but me thinks your searchin' could use some expandin'...


(and good luck!  I hope it's worth a bundle!)

The Trekkers won't give him the time of day because he doesn't know that actual name of the "typical font" used for Star Trek III.  Okay, I don't know the actual name either, but you know it's got one.  Probably something like "Terrian Sans Serif III"

Those Trekkers are ruthless.  You show any ignorance of the Trek canon and they cuss you out in Klingon and threaten to send you off to places with names like "Glutteous Remus IV".
Title: Re: Anyone familiar with AMT Ertl Models?
Post by: ROBsS4R on March 03, 2010, 02:45:07 PM

Prob not much

I just found some original models from the 60s online NIB for $40
Title: Re: Anyone familiar with AMT Ertl Models?
Post by: Rameses on March 04, 2010, 03:40:21 AM
Quote from: kopfjäger on March 03, 2010, 12:49:14 PM
Ask Andy Stitzer.  :D



[laugh] [laugh] [laugh] [laugh] [laugh]


Title: Re: Anyone familiar with AMT Ertl Models?
Post by: Monster Dave on March 04, 2010, 04:55:41 AM
Quote from: NorDog on March 03, 2010, 01:48:17 PM
Those Trekkers are ruthless.  You show any ignorance of the Trek canon and they cuss you out in Klingon and threaten to send you off to places with names like "Glutteous Remus IV".

[laugh] You guys crack me up!

It's true though, I haven't found anything about it and I've searched Ebay, and all over the internet. It's a mystery which is why I am so curious. I may be worth a ton, or then again it may be worth nothing at all, but because I can't find anything about it, my curiosity is perked.

Who knows, I could have the holy grail of Star Trek models and not even know it....










...but then again....probably not.
Title: Re: Anyone familiar with AMT Ertl Models?
Post by: Raux on March 04, 2010, 05:14:08 AM
http://www.starfleet-models.com/Models/Genre/Star_Trek/Default.htm (http://www.starfleet-models.com/Models/Genre/Star_Trek/Default.htm)

not on that page?
Title: Re: Anyone familiar with AMT Ertl Models?
Post by: Monster Dave on March 04, 2010, 05:15:42 AM
No, I just checked again. In fact, that was the best reference page that I have come across in my searching.


Nada.
Title: Re: Anyone familiar with AMT Ertl Models?
Post by: Monster Dave on March 05, 2010, 05:36:31 AM
Alright, well I finally decided to contact AMT/Ertl now inquire directly with them. I was surprised that I actually received a response before the end of the day yesterday. They told me to send them the UPC number that is on the box via email and that they would send me the information on it. Hopefully I'll find that it's some amazing find!
Title: Re: Anyone familiar with AMT Ertl Models?
Post by: Monster Dave on March 16, 2010, 12:12:20 PM
Ok, so I sent the UPC codes as well as the others over the AMT/Ertl and even they can't find anything about this item. It seems that at the time that the model was made, Ertl was a subsidary of a company called Kidde Inc which no longer exists (as I can tell) and the party line is that "because of the large number of toys RC2 has produced since 1946, we are unable to compile a thorough reference of our product line."

What company doesn't keep a history of the items that they have made/sold??

Fortunately, I was given the names of a few people to contact who publish the price/value guides for various RC2 (AMT/Ertl) items.

I'm just amazed at how much of a hunt this has turned into!
Title: Re: Anyone familiar with AMT Ertl Models?
Post by: Speedbag on March 16, 2010, 12:19:15 PM
List it on eBay and you'll find out what it's worth.  ;)
Title: Re: Anyone familiar with AMT Ertl Models?
Post by: ryandalling on March 16, 2010, 12:40:35 PM
Quote from: Speedbag on March 16, 2010, 12:19:15 PM
List it on eBay and you'll find out what it's worth.  ;)

List it with a $1000 minimum bid.... just to spice things up.  ;D
Title: Re: Anyone familiar with AMT Ertl Models?
Post by: Monster Dave on March 16, 2010, 12:48:03 PM
Yeah, the min would have to be an important part of that auction!!

I don't know that I want to part with it just yet though, at least not until I find out how much it's really worth.
Title: Re: Anyone familiar with AMT Ertl Models?
Post by: Popeye the Sailor on March 16, 2010, 01:25:38 PM
Quote from: Monster Dave on March 16, 2010, 12:48:03 PM
Yeah, the min would have to be an important part of that auction!!

I don't know that I want to part with it just yet though, at least not until I find out how much it's really worth.

It's only worth what someone's willing to pay.
Title: Re: Anyone familiar with AMT Ertl Models?
Post by: Monster Dave on March 16, 2010, 01:30:48 PM
Quote from: MrIncredible on March 16, 2010, 01:25:38 PM
It's only worth what someone's willing to pay.

That is true. I'm only interested in current market value though, I don't have a strong desire to sell it, I just want to know how much value it carries given that it's impossible to locate.
Title: Re: Anyone familiar with AMT Ertl Models?
Post by: NorDog on March 16, 2010, 01:39:54 PM
Have you asked some Trekkies?

I say, either post it on eBay, or open a tube of Testors and put it together already.

Apparently it doesn't have enough market penetration to even HAVE a market value.
Title: Re: Anyone familiar with AMT Ertl Models?
Post by: DucHead on March 16, 2010, 04:19:51 PM
Quote from: kopfjäger on March 03, 2010, 12:49:14 PM
Ask Andy Stitzer.  :D

[laugh] [laugh]

I'll give you $2 for it (shipped)!  I know Rameses is dying to put it in his microwave.  Especially since he isn't watching much college basketball.   ;D
Title: Re: Anyone familiar with AMT Ertl Models?
Post by: Rameses on March 16, 2010, 08:50:28 PM
Quote from: pompetta on March 16, 2010, 04:19:51 PM
[laugh] [laugh]

I'll give you $2 for it (shipped)!  I know Rameses is dying to put it in his microwave.  Especially since he isn't watching much college basketball.   ;D


>:(


Whatever.  We won tonight.


Title: Re: Anyone familiar with AMT Ertl Models?
Post by: Speedbag on March 17, 2010, 02:26:45 AM
Quote from: NorDog on March 16, 2010, 01:39:54 PM

I say, either post it on eBay, or open a tube of Testors and put it together already.


;D

In the late '90s, I purchased an original sealed kit of a '67 Cougar in order to build a replica of my personal car. The kits are extremely rare in any condition (they never re-issued it), and I paid dearly for it.

You should have heard the model collectors scream when they heard I built the kit.  [evil] Then I sold the box and unused parts on eBay for a relatively tidy sum to drive the point home further. 
Title: Re: Anyone familiar with AMT Ertl Models?
Post by: Popeye the Sailor on March 17, 2010, 06:55:52 AM
Quote from: Speedbag on March 17, 2010, 02:26:45 AM
;D

In the late '90s, I purchased an original sealed kit of a '67 Cougar in order to build a replica of my personal car. The kits are extremely rare in any condition (they never re-issued it), and I paid dearly for it.

You should have heard the model collectors scream when they heard I built the kit.  [evil] Then I sold the box and unused parts on eBay for a relatively tidy sum to drive the point home further. 

I think that made my day.
Title: Re: Anyone familiar with AMT Ertl Models?
Post by: Monster Dave on March 17, 2010, 07:04:13 AM
See though, I just have this feeling that in the back of my mind has always kept me from opening it. I don't know why, it just feels like something that I should hold off on doing. Because this item seems more and more rare as I search, I'm less inclined to open it more now than before. I'm not a pro model builder, so opening it would mean that it would never look the way it looks on the box.

I'm going to call one of the contacts that the RC2 rep suggested today and see what I can find out.
Title: Re: Anyone familiar with AMT Ertl Models?
Post by: Duck-Stew on March 17, 2010, 07:07:15 AM
Quote from: Speedbag on March 17, 2010, 02:26:45 AM
;D

In the late '90s, I purchased an original sealed kit of a '67 Cougar in order to build a replica of my personal car. The kits are extremely rare in any condition (they never re-issued it), and I paid dearly for it.

You should have heard the model collectors scream when they heard I built the kit.  [evil] Then I sold the box and unused parts on eBay for a relatively tidy sum to drive the point home further. 

;D  The collectors of models don't own or drive kick-ass cars like your Cougar anyhow...so F 'em!  [evil]
Title: Re: Anyone familiar with AMT Ertl Models?
Post by: Speedbag on March 17, 2010, 07:34:41 AM
Quote from: MrIncredible on March 17, 2010, 06:55:52 AM
I think that made my day.

Someday I would love to be able to buy a high-dollar, points-judged show car of some sort. When I'd go to pick it up, the proud owner would no doubt expect it to be pushed onto a trailer for transport. I'd then hand the guy the check, hop in, fire it up, and blaze the tires all the way down his street.
Title: Re: Anyone familiar with AMT Ertl Models?
Post by: Popeye the Sailor on March 17, 2010, 07:38:11 AM
Quote from: Speedbag on March 17, 2010, 07:34:41 AM
Someday I would love to be able to buy a high-dollar, points-judged show car of some sort. When I'd go to pick it up, the proud owner would no doubt expect it to be pushed onto a trailer for transport. I'd then hand the guy the check, hop in, fire it up, and blaze the tires all the way down his street.

What'd you think I'd do if you sold me your cougar?  [evil]
Title: Re: Anyone familiar with AMT Ertl Models?
Post by: Duck-Stew on March 17, 2010, 07:40:18 AM
I can vouch for Mr. I.  He flew to LA, and drove my '62 Falcon home.  He's serious...
Title: Re: Anyone familiar with AMT Ertl Models?
Post by: Monster Dave on March 17, 2010, 07:57:22 AM
How you define enjoyment is largely a personal thing. One person could own something, cherish and baby it, and fully enjoy owning it. While someone else could own the same thing, love it, put it to use, and fully enjoy owning it.

What's the difference other than one's opinion on how to enjoy it?

I collect 1:18 scale die-cast cars that have been made famous either by movies or TV shows. They are rare, and some none of them cheap. I keep them each in individual display cases on display on the top of a book case in the living room. They are isolated, out of reach, but pristine and really cool to look at! Maureen asked me one day though, why I never take them out of the display and mess with them, and trying to answer her question, I just had to say because I love them right where they are. They're like my shrine to automobilia and I have no desire to get finger prints all over them let alone dust.

So I suppose my point is that as long as you enjoy what you have as much as you want to enjoy it, who's to say that there's something wrong with how you go about enjoying what you have??
Title: Re: Anyone familiar with AMT Ertl Models?
Post by: Speedbag on March 17, 2010, 08:17:09 AM
Quote from: MrIncredible on March 17, 2010, 07:38:11 AM
What'd you think I'd do if you sold me your cougar?  [evil]

I would expect nothing less.  ;D
Title: Re: Anyone familiar with AMT Ertl Models?
Post by: g6 on March 17, 2010, 06:29:30 PM
  :o 
QuoteSo I suppose my point is that as long as you enjoy what you have as much as you want to enjoy it, who's to say that there's something wrong with how you go about enjoying what you have??
thats illegal in some states :-[ :-[
Title: Re: Anyone familiar with AMT Ertl Models?
Post by: Monster Dave on March 18, 2010, 06:37:09 AM
Quote from: g6 on March 17, 2010, 06:29:30 PM
  :o    thats illegal in some states :-[ :-[


You know what I meant!  [cheeky]
Title: Re: Anyone familiar with AMT Ertl Models?
Post by: Venom51 on March 18, 2010, 07:10:29 AM
Build it and they will come...
Title: Re: Anyone familiar with AMT Ertl Models?
Post by: Monster Dave on March 18, 2010, 07:13:00 AM
Quote from: Venom51 on March 18, 2010, 07:10:29 AM
Build it and they will come...

[laugh]