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Title: Daytona is tomorrow...inevitable spoilers
Post by: gm2 on March 03, 2010, 10:10:00 PM
The Daytona 200 will air on SPEED on Friday, March 5 at 9:00pm ET. The AMA Superbike doubleheader will air back-to-back on Saturday March 6 starting at 10:30pm ET.



Title: Re: Daytona is tomorrow...
Post by: desmoquattro on March 04, 2010, 01:59:24 AM
I don't think anyone noticed. Without Edmondson running the show the stands will be empty.


Title: Re: Daytona is tomorrow...
Post by: derby on March 04, 2010, 04:26:50 AM
I don't think anyone noticed. Without Edmondson running the show the stands will be empty.

it's daytona... the stands have been empty for decades.


Title: Re: Daytona is tomorrow...
Post by: EvilSteve on March 04, 2010, 05:23:55 AM
Day... what?


Title: Re: Daytona is tomorrow...
Post by: Spidey on March 04, 2010, 06:46:28 AM
I'm actually excited for Supersport.   [thumbsup]   [moto]  Lots of local kids.  Cameron Baubier, Elena Myers (her pro debut), Mike Corbino, and others. 


Title: Re: Daytona is tomorrow...
Post by: gm2 on March 04, 2010, 09:27:14 AM
I'm actually excited for Supersport.   [thumbsup]   [moto]  Lots of local kids.  Cameron Baubier, Elena Myers (her pro debut), Mike Corbino, and others. 

 [thumbsup]


Title: Re: Daytona is tomorrow...
Post by: gm2 on March 04, 2010, 09:30:25 AM
http://superbikeplanet.com/2010/Mar/100304b19.htm (http://superbikeplanet.com/2010/Mar/100304b19.htm)

yates on pole -- with jordan in the pits, filming some ESPN thing about the team... good timing, aaron.  ;)

oh, and pegram is complaining about something.  shocking, i know.


Title: Re: Daytona is tomorrow...
Post by: desmoquattro on March 04, 2010, 10:48:22 AM
Mike Corbino

As in ran-from-the-cops-with-a-load-of-hash-and-flipped-a-truck Corbino? His parents actually let him race again?


Title: Re: Daytona is tomorrow...
Post by: zooom on March 04, 2010, 11:17:39 AM
As in ran-from-the-cops-with-a-load-of-hash-and-flipped-a-truck Corbino? His parents actually let him race again?

maybe he is piloting a new program which is soon to be a sponsor for DMG ...."Racing as Rehab" ?!?!?!


Title: Re: Daytona is tomorrow...
Post by: duccarlos on March 04, 2010, 11:21:54 AM
I'm actually excited for Supersport.   [thumbsup]   [moto]  Lots of local kids.  Cameron Baubier, Elena Myers (her pro debut), Mike Corbino, and others. 

Is that the "young guns"?


Title: Re: Daytona is tomorrow...
Post by: derby on March 04, 2010, 11:29:09 AM
Is that the "young guns"?

yup.



Title: Re: Daytona is tomorrow...
Post by: duccarlos on March 04, 2010, 11:31:11 AM
There's some interesting names in that class.


Title: Re: Daytona is tomorrow...
Post by: Spidey on March 04, 2010, 11:52:01 AM
SUPERSPORT QUALIFING SPOILER (as if anyone cares)









As in ran-from-the-cops-with-a-load-of-hash-and-flipped-a-truck Corbino? His parents actually let him race again?

He didn't flip a truck.  He just left it on the street after running from the cops and headed directly into the yard of an off-duty DEA agent.  Oops.  I assume racing AMA Supersport must be part of one of those new fangled work-release programs.   ;D  

Anyway, it looks like something happened and he didn't make qualifying.  


Title: Re: Daytona is tomorrow...
Post by: desmoquattro on March 04, 2010, 11:53:35 AM
He didn't flip a truck.  He just left it on the street after running from the cops and headed directly into the yard of an off-duty DEA agent.  Oops.  I assume racing AMA Supersport must be part of one of those new fangled work-release programs.   ;D  Anyway, it looks like something happened and he didn't make qualifying.  


If I had pulled that kind of crap at his age, I wouldn't be able to walk, much less race.


Title: Re: Daytona is tomorrow...
Post by: kopfjäger on March 06, 2010, 07:21:39 PM
Damn Zemke.  :o


Title: Re: Daytona is tomorrow...
Post by: kopfjäger on March 06, 2010, 07:26:04 PM
2 top tens for Elena.  [thumbsup]


Title: Re: Daytona is tomorrow...inevitable spoilers
Post by: bdfinally on March 07, 2010, 04:21:53 AM
Daytona must really be irrelevant...nothing on RU


Title: Re: Daytona is tomorrow...inevitable spoilers
Post by: derby on March 07, 2010, 04:38:06 AM
Daytona must really be irrelevant...nothing on RU

press releases:

http://www.roadracingworld.com/news/article/?article=39655 (http://www.roadracingworld.com/news/article/?article=39655)

i'm sure they're driving back to cali from fl... i expect something today or tomorrow.


Title: Re: Daytona is tomorrow...inevitable spoilers
Post by: bdfinally on March 07, 2010, 08:07:10 AM
Lol, no I meant the other "RU" [beer]


Title: Re: Daytona is tomorrow...inevitable spoilers
Post by: gm2 on March 07, 2010, 08:08:26 AM
RU ≠ RRW.   =)



Title: Re: Daytona is tomorrow...inevitable spoilers
Post by: desmoquattro on March 07, 2010, 08:09:23 AM
RU ≠ RRW.   =)



I can see Ulrich uploading race footage over a Sprint card in the van...


Title: Re: Daytona is tomorrow...inevitable spoilers
Post by: ducpainter on March 07, 2010, 08:12:40 AM
I can see Ulrich uploading race footage over a Sprint card in the van...
The part where someone else wins?


Title: Re: Daytona is tomorrow...inevitable spoilers
Post by: desmoquattro on March 07, 2010, 08:34:36 AM
The part where someone else wins?

You mean every race? I don't think the Sprint card has that kind of bandwidth.


Title: Re: Daytona is tomorrow...inevitable spoilers
Post by: derby on March 07, 2010, 08:54:45 AM
RU ≠ RRW.   =)



yeah yeah yeah...  :P



Title: Re: Daytona is tomorrow...inevitable spoilers
Post by: ducpainter on March 07, 2010, 10:20:39 AM
yeah yeah yeah...  :P


Should this be quoted for...

posterity?


Title: Re: Daytona is tomorrow...inevitable spoilers
Post by: bdfinally on March 07, 2010, 11:07:18 AM
Bumper stickers should be issued!


Title: Re: Daytona is tomorrow...inevitable spoilers
Post by: tufty on March 08, 2010, 03:21:07 AM
IS it just me or is there always a lame excuse why Chris Ulrich doesn't attain greatness?

RRW must have a desk reference for it's journos... "Apologies For Racer Chris".

Page 24 paragraph 3, "the tire spun on the rim" is always a good one.

Oh and Daytona IS irrelevant, way past it's glory days I'm afraid.


Title: Re: Daytona is tomorrow...inevitable spoilers
Post by: ducpainter on March 08, 2010, 03:25:56 AM
IS it just me or is there always a lame excuse why Chris Ulrich doesn't attain greatness?

RRW must have a desk reference for it's journos... "Apologies For Racer Chris".

Page 24 paragraph 3, "the tire spun on the rim" is always a good one.

Oh and Daytona IS irrelevant, way past it's glory days I'm afraid.
Excuses are for egyptians in the land of denial.

There is, however, a reason.

He simply isn't talented enough.


Title: Re: Daytona is tomorrow...inevitable spoilers
Post by: GregP on March 08, 2010, 03:56:13 AM
Excuses are for egyptians in the land of denial.

There is, however, a reason.

He simply isn't talented enough.

This year there really is no reason a "privateer" team like RRW can't challenge for wins.  They're one of the most organized and well funded ( I assume) teams on the grid.  If Chris can't put it on the top of the box and challenge for wins in 2010, no excuse but "I don't have what it takes to win at this level", will do.


Title: Re: Daytona is tomorrow...inevitable spoilers
Post by: zooom on March 08, 2010, 05:09:17 AM
This year there really is no reason a "privateer" team like RRW can't challenge for wins.  They're one of the most organized and well funded ( I assume) teams on the grid.  If Chris can't put it on the top of the box and challenge for wins in 2010, no excuse but "I don't have what it takes to win at this level", will do.

you mean like Zemke on the privateer Jordan 'Zuke?


Title: Re: Daytona is tomorrow...inevitable spoilers
Post by: derby on March 08, 2010, 05:57:03 AM
This year there really is no reason a "privateer" team like RRW can't challenge for wins.  They're one of the most organized and well funded ( I assume) teams on the grid.  If Chris can't put it on the top of the box and challenge for wins in 2010, no excuse but "I don't have what it takes to win at this level", will do.

fwiw, rrw and m4 aren't the same team... rrw racing is owned by chris and team m4 monster energy suzuki is owned by john.


Title: Re: Daytona is tomorrow...inevitable spoilers
Post by: gm2 on March 08, 2010, 07:59:33 AM
This year there really is no reason a "privateer" team like RRW can't challenge for wins. 

all depends on the guy on the bike.  chris is fast-club-racer fast, not fast beat-the-top-5-AMA guys fast.


you mean like Zemke on the privateer Jordan 'Zuke?

that privateer distinction doesn't have much meaning anymore in the AMA.  esp not for teams like jordan/NG.


Title: Re: Daytona is tomorrow...inevitable spoilers
Post by: Spidey on March 08, 2010, 08:09:31 AM
The NorCal kids kicked ass.  Hopper is teh suck.  Zemke "I only go sideways" is my hero. 


Title: Re: Daytona is tomorrow...inevitable spoilers
Post by: enzo on March 08, 2010, 10:12:17 AM
(http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u291/enzo76/3.jpg)

(http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u291/enzo76/happycheck.jpg)


Title: Re: Daytona is tomorrow...inevitable spoilers
Post by: gm2 on March 08, 2010, 10:18:56 AM
(http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u291/enzo76/3.jpg)

...even with the giant check they got the amount wrong.


Title: Re: Daytona is tomorrow...inevitable spoilers
Post by: superjohn on March 08, 2010, 11:12:46 AM
How long ago was the Bell Atlantic pic? We haven't had a Bell Atlantic in forever.


Title: Re: Daytona is tomorrow...inevitable spoilers
Post by: gm2 on March 08, 2010, 11:15:39 AM
How long ago was the Bell Atlantic pic? We haven't had a Bell Atlantic in forever.

...seriously?


Title: Re: Daytona is tomorrow...inevitable spoilers
Post by: desmoquattro on March 08, 2010, 11:15:58 AM
How long ago was the Bell Atlantic pic? We haven't had a Bell Atlantic in forever.

That's from Happy Gilmore :)


Title: Re: Daytona is tomorrow...inevitable spoilers
Post by: Triple J on March 08, 2010, 11:39:40 AM
How long ago was the Bell Atlantic pic? We haven't had a Bell Atlantic in forever.

 [laugh] [laugh] [thumbsup]


Title: Re: Daytona is tomorrow...inevitable spoilers
Post by: Spidey on March 08, 2010, 12:40:13 PM
How long ago was the Bell Atlantic pic? We haven't had a Bell Atlantic in forever.

IMDB told me that the movie was released in 1996.


Title: Re: Daytona is tomorrow...inevitable spoilers
Post by: zooom on March 09, 2010, 02:32:02 AM
IMDB told me that the movie was released in 1996.

and MaBell split up in 1984 (no, George Orwell had nothing to do with it! ) -> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bell_System_divestiture (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bell_System_divestiture)

.....In 1994, Bell Atlantic became the first Regional Bell Operating Company to entirely drop the original names of its original operating companies.....

.....In a merger announced on March 5, 2006 and executed on December 29, 2006, AT&T Inc. acquired BellSouth for approximately $86 billion (1.325 shares of AT&T for each share of BellSouth)[3] The combined company retained the name AT&T. The merger consolidated ownership of Cingular Wireless and YELLOWPAGES.COM, both of which were joint ventures between BellSouth and AT&T.

With the merger completed, wireless services previously offered by Cingular Wireless are now offered under the AT&T name. In addition, BellSouth has formally become AT&T South, its Bell Operating Company doing business as AT&T Southeast, and ceased doing business under the BellSouth name on June 30, 2007....


so it was within the realm of possibility that the tourney in Happy Gilmore could have been sponsored by one of the Bell entities that may have still used the old Ma Bell logo and "Bell" name still....


sorry to threadjack a lil bit....




Title: Re: Daytona is tomorrow...inevitable spoilers
Post by: ducpainter on March 09, 2010, 03:41:56 AM
I find it interesting that in 1996 a golfer purportedly earned/won $17K for 18th place....[granted it's a movie]

and in 2010 a motorcycle racer earns $5K for winning?

I guess it's easy to tell which series has higher tv numbers. ;D


Title: Re: Daytona is tomorrow...inevitable spoilers
Post by: desmoquattro on March 09, 2010, 03:55:03 AM
I guess it's easy to tell which series has higher tv numbers. ;D

...or greedier race management ;D


Title: Re: Daytona is tomorrow...inevitable spoilers
Post by: zooom on March 09, 2010, 06:07:39 AM
look at the total purse for golf for each round ( and there are how many in a season??? ) and then how many rounds in the AMA and the total purses available per round......and it looks extroidinarily pathetic in comparo....and it does somewhat boil down to race management and race promotion taking a huge cut( not that they should work for free OR that they don't do work to earn what they get)....but if the show ain't gettin paid, then there soon won't be a show!....promotion and race management needs to woo big name sponsors to get off their wallets and pony up some cash and they certainly ain't doin that or at least seem like they aren't! ( and I thought that was half of the promise that DMG was supposed to deliver with the Francis family connection)...all it seems like they have done most effectively is to scare away the manufacturers that were ponying up the most to support the series....


Title: Re: Daytona is tomorrow...inevitable spoilers
Post by: duccarlos on March 09, 2010, 06:39:29 AM
Attendance.


Title: Re: Daytona is tomorrow...inevitable spoilers
Post by: GregP on March 10, 2010, 03:34:42 PM
What happened to Hopkins?  Two DNFs?


Title: Re: Daytona is tomorrow...inevitable spoilers
Post by: Spidey on March 10, 2010, 04:59:48 PM
Both mechanicals.  I think his engine let go in the first race.  It was pretty early -- the first couple of laps.  I didn't see the second, but it was another mechanical.  Not a good start for him.


Title: Re: Daytona is tomorrow...inevitable spoilers
Post by: gm2 on March 10, 2010, 08:14:27 PM
Both mechanicals.  I think his engine let go in the first race.  It was pretty early -- the first couple of laps.  I didn't see the second, but it was another mechanical.  Not a good start for him.

the media has been unusually silent about that one.


Title: Re: Daytona is tomorrow...inevitable spoilers
Post by: zooom on March 11, 2010, 04:13:10 AM
maybe he pulled a Cole Trickle and pegged the motor on purpose 'cause he's skuurrrred!


Title: Re: Daytona is tomorrow...inevitable spoilers
Post by: desmoquattro on March 11, 2010, 06:33:40 AM
the media has been unusually silent about that one.

Maybe the media realizes that nobody cares about Hopkins anymore ;D


Title: Re: Daytona is tomorrow...inevitable spoilers
Post by: superjohn on March 11, 2010, 12:11:57 PM
Maybe the media realizes that nobody cares about Hopkins anymore ;D


They will when he wins and the blinding light from his smile causes someone to go blind.


Title: Re: Daytona is tomorrow...inevitable spoilers
Post by: gm2 on March 11, 2010, 12:35:02 PM
there's a bet: does hopper win in the ama?  ever?


Title: Re: Daytona is tomorrow...inevitable spoilers
Post by: derby on March 11, 2010, 01:55:38 PM
there's a bet: does hopper win in the ama?  ever?

i'll take "yes"...


Title: Re: Daytona is tomorrow...inevitable spoilers
Post by: GregP on March 11, 2010, 04:28:07 PM
So for those of us not overly interested in the AMA anymore, does anyone have factory ride out there?

There is zero direct factory support in the superbike series, no?  Are there any full-factory rides out there in any class?

Will Hopper have cosmetic surgery to fix those silly ears?

Please advise!



Title: Re: Daytona is tomorrow...inevitable spoilers
Post by: gm2 on March 11, 2010, 07:02:22 PM
So for those of us not overly interested in the AMA anymore, does anyone have factory ride out there?

There is zero direct factory support in the superbike series, no?  Are there any full-factory rides out there in any class?

Will Hopper have cosmetic surgery to fix those silly ears?

Please advise!

the yoshimura suzukis and josh hayes' yamaha are 'factory'.  direct factory support, whatever.  the yam is in-house at Graves, but it's factory.. sorta.  yosh has always been factory-but-not, as in factory but run out of yosh here in CA.  no honda or kawis.

but that's all sorta not relevant -- the AMA rules since last year mean all the superbikes are essentially superstockish.  they aren't very super anymore.  hopper could win... just like a jordan bike, etc


Title: Re: Daytona is tomorrow...inevitable spoilers
Post by: gm2 on March 11, 2010, 07:17:55 PM
i'll take "yes"...

i want to concur.. but i don't yet.  i'm afraid he may have lost his nerve.  i sure as hell would have by now.

edit: then again, we should wait at least til he's on a track he's been to before.  and that isn't daytona.


Title: Re: Daytona is tomorrow...inevitable spoilers
Post by: kopfjäger on March 11, 2010, 08:09:44 PM
there's a bet: does hopper win in the ama?  ever?

yes


Title: Re: Daytona is tomorrow...inevitable spoilers
Post by: zooom on March 12, 2010, 02:22:52 AM
i want to concur.. but i don't yet.  i'm afraid he may have lost his nerve.  i sure as hell would have by now.

edit: then again, we should wait at least til he's on a track he's been to before.  and that isn't daytona.

Laguna?!?!?!


Title: Re: Daytona is tomorrow...inevitable spoilers
Post by: tufty on March 12, 2010, 03:02:09 AM
i'm afraid he may have lost his nerve.  i sure as hell would have by now.

+1, I think he's fallen off that pony one too many times. I reckon when when he's riding now there a big red, flashing "MORTALITY" light blinking in his brain.

He really should fix those ears though.


Title: Re: Daytona is tomorrow...inevitable spoilers
Post by: derby on March 12, 2010, 05:02:59 AM

edit: then again, we should wait at least til he's on a track he's been to before.  and that isn't daytona.

http://www.cornerspeedphoto.com/ama-superbike-archives/2000/1-daytonabeach-750-supersport (http://www.cornerspeedphoto.com/ama-superbike-archives/2000/1-daytonabeach-750-supersport)


Title: Re: Daytona is tomorrow...inevitable spoilers
Post by: derby on March 12, 2010, 05:07:31 AM
fwiw, here's the 2000 schedule and results:

http://www.cornerspeedphoto.com/ama-superbike-archives/2000-results (http://www.cornerspeedphoto.com/ama-superbike-archives/2000-results)

tracks that are still on the schedule:

daytona, sonoma/infineon, road atlanta, road america, mid-ohio, laguna...


Title: Re: Daytona is tomorrow...inevitable spoilers
Post by: gm2 on March 12, 2010, 07:37:49 AM
http://www.cornerspeedphoto.com/ama-superbike-archives/2000/1-daytonabeach-750-supersport (http://www.cornerspeedphoto.com/ama-superbike-archives/2000/1-daytonabeach-750-supersport)

oh, you know what.. my comment was based on an interview he gave a couple weeks ago.  just realized that was from the test at fontana, not daytona.  fontucky was brand new to him.

well anyway, i still think he's in deep mental doodoo. 


Title: Re: Daytona is tomorrow...inevitable spoilers
Post by: Spidey on March 12, 2010, 08:01:45 AM
Hoppper will win unless he proves to be irrevocably broken.  Which, like gm2 says, is a real possibility.  Man, I can't think of anyone recently whose career has gone backwards so quickly.  Jeebus, Hopper.   :-\


Title: Re: Daytona is tomorrow...inevitable spoilers
Post by: desmoquattro on March 12, 2010, 08:28:36 AM
Man, I can't think of anyone recently whose career has gone backwards so quickly.
(http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/42752000/jpg/_42752443_toseland300.jpg)
(http://img.thesun.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00477/James_Toseland_477652a.jpg)
(http://img.qj.net/uploads/articles_module/96384/James%20Toseland_qjgenth.jpg)


Title: Re: Daytona is tomorrow...inevitable spoilers
Post by: gm2 on March 12, 2010, 08:31:56 AM
it's a popular pasttime these days to give him shit, but not even close.

jt has 2 world titles, including a really hard fought and impressive 2007, and, until the bridgestone switch, was doing very well as a GP rookie.


Title: Re: Daytona is tomorrow...inevitable spoilers
Post by: Spidey on March 12, 2010, 08:41:24 AM
it's a popular pasttime these days to give him shit, but not even close.

+1.  JT went from a satellite GP ride to a factory WSBK ride, the same bike that won the championship last year.  And he's been pretty competitive in testing. 

Hopper went from a factory GP ride to a privateer WSBK, which lasted only a couple of races, then couldn't even get back in WSBK (along with that 3banger GP weirdness).  He's now in AMA on a privateer bike that blew up in each of its first two races.


Title: Re: Daytona is tomorrow...inevitable spoilers
Post by: desmoquattro on March 12, 2010, 08:43:35 AM
it's a popular pasttime these days to give him shit, but not even close.

jt has 2 world titles, including a really hard fought and impressive 2007, and, until the bridgestone switch, was doing very well as a GP rookie.

It was a joke. From world champion to piano man in 3 seasons.


Title: Re: Daytona is tomorrow...inevitable spoilers
Post by: gm2 on March 12, 2010, 08:54:23 AM
well, he was always the piano man...  =)


Title: Re: Daytona is tomorrow...inevitable spoilers
Post by: ducpainter on March 12, 2010, 09:00:16 AM
http://www.cornerspeedphoto.com/ama-superbike-archives/2000/1-daytonabeach-750-supersport (http://www.cornerspeedphoto.com/ama-superbike-archives/2000/1-daytonabeach-750-supersport)
Not everyone has a memory like yours. [laugh] [laugh] [laugh]


Title: Re: Daytona is tomorrow...inevitable spoilers
Post by: gm2 on March 12, 2010, 09:04:09 AM
derbywaybackmachinepedia.org


Title: Re: Daytona is tomorrow...inevitable spoilers
Post by: ducpainter on March 12, 2010, 09:09:11 AM
derbywaybackmachinepedia.org
simply amazing ;D


Title: Re: Daytona is tomorrow...inevitable spoilers
Post by: darylbowden on March 12, 2010, 09:21:24 AM
there's a bet: does hopper win in the ama?  ever?

nope.


Title: Re: Daytona is tomorrow...inevitable spoilers
Post by: duccarlos on March 12, 2010, 09:27:27 AM
Now that we're throwing random comments:

JT only cares about his band


Title: Re: Daytona is tomorrow...inevitable spoilers
Post by: Spidey on March 12, 2010, 02:53:37 PM
Now that we're throwing random comments:

I love lamp.


Title: Re: Daytona is tomorrow...inevitable spoilers
Post by: zooom on March 15, 2010, 01:18:26 AM
Now that we're throwing random comments:

 

nuke a gay whale for jesus!


Title: Re: Daytona is tomorrow...inevitable spoilers
Post by: desmoquattro on March 15, 2010, 03:03:56 AM
Now that we're throwing random comments:

make the beast with two backs yo' couch.
(http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/7585/fuyocouch.gif)


Title: Re: Daytona is tomorrow...inevitable spoilers
Post by: duccarlos on March 15, 2010, 05:08:54 AM
baby iguanas are scary


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