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Title: Horrible M/C accident in PHX today.
Post by: Randimus Maximus on March 25, 2010, 04:21:20 PM
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http://ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=36371.msg638229#msg638229 (http://ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=36371.msg638229#msg638229)
Title: Re: Horrible M/C accident in PHX today.
Post by: DesmoDiva on March 25, 2010, 04:36:39 PM
RIP.   :'(

Title: Re: Horrible M/C accident in PHX today.
Post by: mitt on March 25, 2010, 05:30:54 PM
Ah crap.  RIP riders.

It could just as easily have been a family in a car run over and killed if it was a large truck from behind.


mitt
Title: Re: Horrible M/C accident in PHX today.
Post by: Bigbore4 on March 25, 2010, 06:58:21 PM
RIP

Look at that shit, "deadly motorcycle accident"...

"10 motorcycles got into an accident with a dump truck"

I am at a loss for words to articulate my loathing for the biased media.  The fekking truck ran over a group stopped at a light per the report.

All I can say is RIP brothers...
Title: Re: Horrible M/C accident in PHX today.
Post by: Howie on March 25, 2010, 08:42:30 PM
Horrible! 
Title: Re: Horrible M/C accident in PHX today.
Post by: TiNi on March 26, 2010, 01:00:40 AM
 :'(
Title: Re: Horrible M/C accident in PHX today.
Post by: sno_duc on March 26, 2010, 05:24:32 AM
RIP

To my brothers and sisters here, ride safe you're surrounded by idiots.
Title: Re: Horrible M/C accident in PHX today.
Post by: Grampa on March 26, 2010, 06:18:58 AM
 :'(
Title: Re: Horrible M/C accident in PHX today.
Post by: ryandalling on March 26, 2010, 06:53:10 AM
wow. It's hard to even formulate a response to that. In the world of worst case scenarios...  :'(
Title: Re: Horrible M/C accident in PHX today.
Post by: triangleforge on March 26, 2010, 07:12:38 AM
Heard about this from my neighbor yesterday (we're up the hill from Phoenix) -- I was in the kitchen & heard Mitch (who rides a V-Star that's his pride & joy) yelling next door that he needed to see me.

Absolutely sickening, and all either of us could think of was to remind the other to ride safe & pay attention out there.

RIP, riders.
Title: Re: Horrible M/C accident in PHX today.
Post by: Slide Panda on March 26, 2010, 07:24:09 AM
Quote from: Bigbore4 on March 25, 2010, 06:58:21 PM
"10 motorcycles got into an accident with a dump truck"

Yeah - I caught that too.  Reminds me of how the local news reported about a rider who was hit by a guy, who ran a red while running from the cops. The news talked about how the rider 'popped' into the instersection... made not mention initially of the fact that he had the green light.

RIP to all those folks - and my best wishes for the survivors that will have to deal with all the pain to come.
Sad sad sad
Title: Re: Horrible M/C accident in PHX today.
Post by: Goat_Herder on March 26, 2010, 08:45:45 AM
Quote from: Bigbore4 on March 25, 2010, 06:58:21 PM
Look at that shit, "deadly motorcycle accident"...

"10 motorcycles got into an accident with a dump truck"

I am at a loss for words to articulate my loathing for the biased media.  The fekking truck ran over a group stopped at a light per the report.

All I can say is RIP brothers...
I can't agree more....   [bang]

RIP  :'(
Title: Re: Horrible M/C accident in PHX today.
Post by: Monster Dave on March 26, 2010, 10:18:23 AM
As a voice from Phoenix, it seems like every year there's a very tragic accident with motorcycles and vehicles. It's absolutely tragic.

I'm at a loss of words...
Title: Re: Horrible M/C accident in PHX today.
Post by: ctrain on March 26, 2010, 11:06:23 AM
 :'(

my thoughts and prayers are with everyone affected.
Title: Re: Horrible M/C accident in PHX today.
Post by: mitt on March 26, 2010, 11:21:55 AM
I just learned - the rider of the white s4rs is one of my good friends - he was involved in the accident - broken arm and leg.  He is from here in Iowa, but winters in AZ.  

Double crap.


mitt
Title: Re: Horrible M/C accident in PHX today.
Post by: Monster Dave on March 26, 2010, 12:19:43 PM
So sorry to hear that - he's lucky to be alive.
Title: Re: Horrible M/C accident in PHX today.
Post by: triangleforge on March 26, 2010, 12:26:57 PM
According to witnesses at the scene, the driver of the sanitation truck was "shuffling with his paperwork" and distracted.

http://www.azcentral.com/community/northvalley/articles/2010/03/26/20100326phoenix-motorcycle-crash-folo0326.html (http://www.azcentral.com/community/northvalley/articles/2010/03/26/20100326phoenix-motorcycle-crash-folo0326.html)
Title: Re: Horrible M/C accident in PHX today.
Post by: Monster Dave on March 26, 2010, 12:37:28 PM
Can you believe that!!

And people wonder why texting should be banned!!!
Title: Re: Horrible M/C accident in PHX today.
Post by: superjohn on March 26, 2010, 12:39:42 PM
Quote from: triangleforge on March 26, 2010, 12:26:57 PM
According to witnesses at the scene, the driver of the sanitation truck was "shuffling with his paperwork" and distracted.

http://www.azcentral.com/community/northvalley/articles/2010/03/26/20100326phoenix-motorcycle-crash-folo0326.html (http://www.azcentral.com/community/northvalley/articles/2010/03/26/20100326phoenix-motorcycle-crash-folo0326.html)


Jalopnik reported that yesterday as well. That is intolerable. This prevailing attitude that driving is easy and you can talk on the phone, or text, or shuffle through papers while operating a vehicle has got to stop. Driving is hard. It requires concentration and awareness. This guy is now a mass murderer through his ineptitude and I hope he's never again allowed to operate a vehicle, even if it's the prison bus.
Title: Re: Horrible M/C accident in PHX today.
Post by: NorDog on March 26, 2010, 01:13:47 PM
Quote from: Monster Dave on March 26, 2010, 10:18:23 AM
As a voice from Phoenix, it seems like every year there's a very tragic accident with motorcycles and vehicles. It's absolutely tragic.

I'm at a loss of words...

I've live all over the country, and the worst drivers I've every encountered are in Phoenix.  Add to this a rather large population of MMI students, many with very powerful sportbikes, and I suspect you have a higher than average motorcycle accident occurance.

As a matter of fact, a few weeks after I left a kid I knew (an MMI student) died crashing his bike.

Sad.  All around, very sad.
Title: Re: Horrible M/C accident in PHX today.
Post by: Rufus120 on March 26, 2010, 01:40:29 PM
........Rip to everyone involved.
Title: Re: Horrible M/C accident in PHX today.
Post by: IZ on March 26, 2010, 08:19:11 PM
Unbelievable!!  >:(

I didn't know there was a Monster involved?!  No wonder my co-workers were worried.  Hope your friend recovers quick Mitt! 

NorDog..agreed, the traffic can get pretty bad down here in certain areas & times.     
Title: Re: Horrible M/C accident in PHX today.
Post by: ab on March 27, 2010, 04:45:43 AM
RIP

This is horrible tragic accident.  Sad to hear this.  Having lived in Phoenix, I always thought that was one dangerous place to ride or even drive.  The speeds and carelessness of the drivers I encountered still astounds me.
Title: Re: Horrible M/C accident in PHX today.
Post by: WetDuc on March 27, 2010, 05:08:40 AM
This is a terrible, sad story. 
I'm always so scared sitting at lights, I nearly got smashed once back when I rode a scooter, the guy screeched up to about 6 inches from my rear tire. ugghhh
Thoughts and best wishes to the families.
Title: Re: Horrible M/C accident in PHX today.
Post by: IZ on March 27, 2010, 05:47:44 AM
Quote from: iamhybris on March 27, 2010, 05:08:40 AM
I'm always so scared sitting at lights


I believe that was PennyRobber's experience a few years back..girl on cellphone rearended him.
Title: Re: Horrible M/C accident in PHX today.
Post by: vwboomer on March 27, 2010, 05:56:34 AM
Totaled my 04 S4R getting rear ended at a light. Not much you can do to get out of the way even if you know it's happening.
I'm waiting to see what happens to the truck driver.
Title: Re: Horrible M/C accident in PHX today.
Post by: LA on March 27, 2010, 06:29:30 AM
Yea, sometimes I look around at a stop light to see if people are coming to a halt like they should, but usually?  I just sit mindlessly waiting for the light to change.

And hell yea, as you pull off, best be looking to see if that set of peeps are slowing like they should, or if there's a couple of "important" people who are going to stuff it under the changing light to run your Ducati ass over.

It's a make the beast with two backsing jungle out there!

Must be a helpless feeling to know someone just ran over and killed family and there's nothing you can do about it.  I'm sorry for them.

LA
Title: Re: Horrible M/C accident in PHX today.
Post by: hcomp on March 27, 2010, 11:51:31 AM
I have ridden that route several times. My condolences to the families and it sounds like there will probably be some major wrongful death lawsuits. I hope the families own the company after this is all said and done. Even though the families will receive compensation I'm sure, there is no replacing lost family members.  That idiot driving the truck should have been paying F'ing attention! Especially driving something that size that has the capacity to kill several people. He seemed to have no sense of responsbility.  People are idiots out here in Phoenix..  
Title: Re: Horrible M/C accident in PHX today.
Post by: Chucko9-696 on March 27, 2010, 02:46:20 PM
R.I.P.   :(
Title: Re: Horrible M/C accident in PHX today.
Post by: Rob Hilding on March 27, 2010, 03:19:21 PM
 :'(

Those pictures are sickening

Thoughts to all involved.

This is another reminder to us all to not text and dial, etc. while driving. Unfortunately, this could ( and probably will) happen again.

Very sad
Title: Re: Horrible M/C accident in PHX today.
Post by: mitt on March 29, 2010, 04:00:30 AM
I heard another rider died from injuries, bringing the total to 4  :'(


mitt
Title: Re: Horrible M/C accident in PHX today.
Post by: akremzar on March 29, 2010, 02:36:59 PM
All.  I'm from Iowa too.  This picture of T with the S4rs and K1200 were from a ride him and i did ~6weeks ago when i visited him.  I rode that bike up that mountain that day, and the K12 back down.  T is one of the nicest and coolest people you could ever wish to meet.  I got the unfortunate call from his wife this morning about the accident...  i still don't think it's sinked in yet. I've spent a good part of the day notifying some of our fellow riders in the area about what's going on while i've been trying to keep in touch with the family.

I can't even imagine how horrible this would have been to be a part of.  Obviously, thoughts and prayers out to ALL people and families involved. 

Me and another Ducati rider from Iowa are still planning on coming to AZ Apr 8-11.  we were planning on a motorcycle ride, but now we are ready to help T through his recovery and get them ready to come back to Iowa for the Summer.

T, WISH you a SPEEDY recovery!  Call as soon as you are up for it.  I'll be seeing you in less than 2 weeks.  hope you're ready to join me with a bottle of Tequilain 13 days!!!!

Kindest Regards,
AK(http://api.ning.com/files/oj64e4wicqU0t8dn89LV9UKqyijuo8WN5lutvG727G*eJu5RxtScLlBrmTQhv-bgCMDC44iFAKQg5aqT6Zgjp7xFWIlz6K5y/IMG_1238.jpg?width=721)
Title: Re: Horrible M/C accident in PHX today.
Post by: slyfox on March 29, 2010, 06:19:02 PM
R.I.P
My condolences to anyone involve
& GWS to T
Title: Re: Horrible M/C accident in PHX today.
Post by: Howie on March 29, 2010, 06:33:50 PM
To a quick and complete recovery, T [beer]

Title: Re: Horrible M/C accident in PHX today.
Post by: muskrat on March 30, 2010, 05:54:08 AM
My condolences and prayers go out to the family of the slain.  Slain because I too believe texting, talking (unless on hands-free) and any other distractions should be banned as well.  IMO the driver should pay, after all he has a previous record and violations.  No matter what the consequence to the driver those lives are irreplaceable and in the end this is all that matters.   
Title: Re: Horrible M/C accident in PHX today.
Post by: mitt on March 30, 2010, 05:59:38 AM
Quote from: muskrat on March 30, 2010, 05:54:08 AM
My condolences and prayers go out to the family of the slain.  Slain because I too believe texting, talking (unless on hands-free) and any other distractions should be banned as well.  IMO the driver should pay, after all he has a previous record and violations.  No matter what the consequence to the driver those lives are irreplaceable and in the end this is all that matters.   

Yea, the drivers record doesn't look too good.  Why was he allowed on the road with so many previous tickets & violations.

mitt
Title: Re: Horrible M/C accident in PHX today.
Post by: EvilSteve on March 30, 2010, 06:09:21 AM
RIP - very sad.

Remember everyone, this is life on a motorcycle. As horrible and avoidable as this incident was, people die.

There's a splitting ordinance under discussion in AZ at the moment, this accident is being held up as a reason why splitting stopped traffic should be permitted.

http://jalopnik.com/5502943/the-phoenix-dump-truck-motorcycle-deaths-were-preventable (http://jalopnik.com/5502943/the-phoenix-dump-truck-motorcycle-deaths-were-preventable)
Title: Re: Horrible M/C accident in PHX today.
Post by: webspoke on March 31, 2010, 12:36:55 PM
RIP  and condolences.  Everyone keep their eyes open out there.
Title: Re: Horrible M/C accident in PHX today.
Post by: hcomp on April 06, 2010, 04:27:54 PM
It was just on the local news here in Phoenix: The driver of the truck was on illegal drugs at the time of the accident. The news was not specific what drugs he was on however.  This now means he will probably be charged with vehicular homicide. Rightfully so.

Title: Re: Horrible M/C accident in PHX today.
Post by: hcomp on April 06, 2010, 04:56:38 PM
New update...

He was on Meth at the time...

http://www.abc15.com/content/news/phoenixmetro/north/story/PD-Driver-was-on-illegal-drugs-at-time-of/VwL7ONcC50ut3E2abcC4Qg.cspx (http://www.abc15.com/content/news/phoenixmetro/north/story/PD-Driver-was-on-illegal-drugs-at-time-of/VwL7ONcC50ut3E2abcC4Qg.cspx)
Title: Re: Horrible M/C accident in PHX today.
Post by: mitt on April 06, 2010, 05:03:42 PM
I hope someone kills him in jail.

Title: Re: Horrible M/C accident in PHX today.
Post by: cokey on April 06, 2010, 05:22:20 PM
RIP riders..
Title: Re: Horrible M/C accident in PHX today.
Post by: muskrat on April 06, 2010, 06:51:00 PM
I hope they skin him alive.  Lets pray there are the 1%'ers in that jail he's sitting.
Title: Re: Horrible M/C accident in PHX today.
Post by: hcomp on April 06, 2010, 08:58:01 PM
There is a place to make donations for the families on their meetup page on the left hand side.

http://www.meetup.com/Phoenix-M-C-Kruzers/ (http://www.meetup.com/Phoenix-M-C-Kruzers/)
Title: Re: Horrible M/C accident in PHX today.
Post by: slyfox on April 07, 2010, 12:43:25 AM
Extremely sad incident indeed ......
The drivers' name probably said it all .... "Jakscht" .... How do you pronounce that ...?   Jacks**t
Title: Re: Horrible M/C accident in PHX today.
Post by: Greg on April 07, 2010, 03:27:29 AM
Quote from: ryanracer on April 06, 2010, 04:56:38 PM
New update...

He was on Meth at the time...

http://www.abc15.com/content/news/phoenixmetro/north/story/PD-Driver-was-on-illegal-drugs-at-time-of/VwL7ONcC50ut3E2abcC4Qg.cspx (http://www.abc15.com/content/news/phoenixmetro/north/story/PD-Driver-was-on-illegal-drugs-at-time-of/VwL7ONcC50ut3E2abcC4Qg.cspx)

"Jakscht was reportedly under surveillance at his residence in Scottsdale when the surveillance team observed him leaving and noticed "impaired driving behavior."

If he really was under surveillance then this should have been prevented.
Title: Re: Horrible M/C accident in PHX today.
Post by: DCXCV on April 07, 2010, 06:24:37 AM
Quote from: SA_S2R on April 07, 2010, 03:27:29 AM
"Jakscht was reportedly under surveillance at his residence in Scottsdale when the surveillance team observed him leaving and noticed "impaired driving behavior."

If he really was under surveillance then this should have been prevented.

Not the most well written article, but it sounds like he has been under surveillance since the accident, pending the outcome of the drug test and that's when they saw him driving impared and pulled him over.  It says there are possible additional charges for driving impared on Tuesday.