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Title: Tech question about DC-DC voltage converter
Post by: He Man on March 27, 2010, 08:25:11 PM
is there such a device that you can hook up to your bike so it you could hook it up to a device that normally runs on battery only?
Title: Re: Tech question about DC-DC voltage converter
Post by: mookieo2 on March 28, 2010, 04:13:24 AM
What voltage does the device you want to hook up need? There are plenty of converters out there. You need to be more specific.
Title: Re: Tech question about DC-DC voltage converter
Post by: Major Slow on March 28, 2010, 05:03:33 AM
yes
Title: Re: Tech question about DC-DC voltage converter
Post by: He Man on March 28, 2010, 05:19:50 AM
stnadard battery voltages... 1.5v and 3v
Title: Re: Tech question about DC-DC voltage converter
Post by: ducpainter on March 28, 2010, 05:24:22 AM
Quote from: He Man on March 28, 2010, 05:19:50 AM
stnadard battery voltages... 1.5v and 3v
You really need to use google... [roll]
Title: Re: Tech question about DC-DC voltage converter
Post by: Popeye the Sailor on March 28, 2010, 06:24:27 AM
No, it's not possible.
Title: Re: Tech question about DC-DC voltage converter
Post by: stopintime on March 28, 2010, 11:16:06 AM
A very thin 200 meter cable to loose whatever is needed? (I don't even know if I'm joking)

My 9V battery operated glove liners (another joke) became MUCH hotter with the 12/13/14 volts off my bike.
Their controller box reduces the heat ~ "a lot" - no idea how much in terms of voltage.
Maybe a/your Gerbing controller can do it?
Title: Re: Tech question about DC-DC voltage converter
Post by: Major Slow on March 28, 2010, 11:54:07 AM
look up a lm317 regulator It is good for a variety of voltages and is really a good all around regulator it sources 1.5 amps. http://www.google.com/search?q=lm317+datasheet&rls=com.microsoft:en-us:IE-SearchBox&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sourceid=ie7&rlz=1I7ADBF (http://www.google.com/search?q=lm317+datasheet&rls=com.microsoft:en-us:IE-SearchBox&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sourceid=ie7&rlz=1I7ADBF)
Title: Re: Tech question about DC-DC voltage converter
Post by: He Man on March 28, 2010, 12:30:17 PM
i found a lot of shit for cars. but stuff for cars arent waterproof and are exposed or huge pieces of equipment.

I googled the topic and it seems others have the same idea as me. Cameras that run on battery only, or other crap. And there are voltage regulators out thre that you could put into a box, but im looking for something premade. They have a LM317 like thing at radioshack. like the dial found on the Fatduc modulator.

What i want to do is power my Go pro cam. The battery life on it is a joke (20-40mins depending on temp, vibration and if its on video/picture mode, yes i am using rechargeables, no i will not just buy $8 lithium batteries every time i want to use it.
Title: Re: Tech question about DC-DC voltage converter
Post by: stopintime on March 28, 2010, 01:18:47 PM
When I asked GoPro about a wall charger converter, they told me to get anything with a USB socket and 5 volts.
My point is that 5 volts is what the camera needs to charge.
Are you planning to connect wires directly to the camera, ditching the battery? (extra batteries are only $20?)
Title: Re: Tech question about DC-DC voltage converter
Post by: ducpainter on March 28, 2010, 01:22:15 PM
What voltage is a cell phone?
Title: Re: Tech question about DC-DC voltage converter
Post by: Mr Earl on March 28, 2010, 01:31:20 PM
Quote from: ducpainter on March 28, 2010, 01:22:15 PM
What voltage is a cell phone?

Happily, 5VDC.  I'm researching using a (car) cell phone charger guts to power a GPS.  Trouble with most of them (cell chargers) is the power output is only 200-300 mA.  The handheld GPS I've got needs 500 mA.

If you look carefully at the camera, there should be an indication of the power draw.  I don't have a video cam, so can't even guess.
Title: Re: Tech question about DC-DC voltage converter
Post by: ducpainter on March 28, 2010, 02:05:53 PM
Quote from: Mr Earl on March 28, 2010, 01:31:20 PM
Happily, 5VDC.  I'm researching using a (car) cell phone charger guts to power a GPS.  Trouble with most of them (cell chargers) is the power output is only 200-300 mA.  The handheld GPS I've got needs 500 mA.

If you look carefully at the camera, there should be an indication of the power draw.  I don't have a video cam, so can't even guess.
So...

if the camera requires less than 500 mA you could theoretically add a 12v lighter socket and a cell phone charger in a tank bag.

Go-pro shows a charger for the HD hero. Part# acarc-001 Have you seen that?
Title: Re: Tech question about DC-DC voltage converter
Post by: He Man on March 28, 2010, 02:11:37 PM
it doenst say anything about mAh. But what i did read on it (Thats not mentioned on the website) is the fact that it says you must use lithiums when in high vibration use.

The problem isnt cost of a rechargeble battery, but the fact that a battery doesnt last very long and if i wanted to just leave the camera on for an hour, id need to carry 6 batteries and swap them out every 20 minutes.

I planned to drill a hole on the backside of the case and put 2 wires that ill solder it directly onto a dummy battery then seal it with some silicone.


ducpainter the SD Go Pro does not support internal charging. the HD Hero support it, but it also comes with a lithium rechargebale pack that is resistant to shock.
Title: Re: Tech question about DC-DC voltage converter
Post by: ducpainter on March 28, 2010, 02:41:29 PM
coin up...

buy the good one. ;)
Title: Re: Tech question about DC-DC voltage converter
Post by: He Man on March 28, 2010, 03:04:17 PM
Quote from: ducpainter on March 28, 2010, 02:41:29 PM
coin up...

buy the good one. ;)

man wth i just bought the go pro less than 9 months ago!
Title: Re: Tech question about DC-DC voltage converter
Post by: ducpainter on March 28, 2010, 03:13:19 PM
Quote from: He Man on March 28, 2010, 03:04:17 PM
man wth i just bought the go pro less than 9 months ago!
dood...

you know the gig with technology...

buy big...

buy often. [evil]
Title: Re: Tech question about DC-DC voltage converter
Post by: mookieo2 on March 28, 2010, 03:52:05 PM
I thought I read somewhere on the GoPro site that the NimH rechargeable batteries that they recommend are about 900mAh.

I had my GoPro HD record 2 and a half hours no problem with the rechargeable it comes with  ;D.

This (http://www.amazon.com/12V-2A-DC-Converter/dp/B000KGKFA4) should do it. I says 2A and adjustable voltage.
Title: Re: Tech question about DC-DC voltage converter
Post by: Aflac on March 28, 2010, 04:34:17 PM
Can your GoPro be recharged with the usb cable? if so can't you use a car phone charger with usb connection?
On my 748 I had my MiniDV camcorder on the bike but battery would die to often. So this is what I did went to Radio Shack and picked up
a connector that hooked up to the plug for my battery tender. Also got a cigarette extention cord and cut the end off and soldiered on the plug for the battery tender. and plugged a small power converter in and plugged my camcorder in and had constant power to camera from now on. Since then I've upgraded to a Vholdr ContourHD 1080p but am in the process of doing the same on that seeing I only get just under 3 hrs of charge and luck would have it the only way you can charge and record at the same time is to use a cigarette lighter charger
Title: Re: Tech question about DC-DC voltage converter
Post by: He Man on March 28, 2010, 04:59:42 PM
Aflac, thats exactly what im trying to get to.

and mookie how the hell are you getting that many hours? i have 900mAh Energizer rechargables and those last 20minutes for me. the $5.99 AAA Lithium 1 time use ones last the full 2-3 hours on my bike on a nice warm day.

My go pro DOES NOT charge via USB. if it did that would be great. Thats why i was thinking of just feeding it a constant power supply from my bike, but it would have to directly into the battery well.


Mookie, that looks perfect. cheap enough for me to disamentle and rebuild into something roadworthy [evil]
Title: Re: Tech question about DC-DC voltage converter
Post by: mookieo2 on March 29, 2010, 05:12:52 AM
Quote from: He Man on March 28, 2010, 04:59:42 PM
and mookie how the hell are you getting that many hours? i have 900mAh Energizer rechargables and those last 20minutes for me. the $5.99 AAA Lithium 1 time use ones last the full 2-3 hours on my bike on a nice warm day.

I have the HD one. it comes with the battery. I`ve used it for 4 or five hours snowboarding with it on and off of standby.


Quote from: He Man on March 28, 2010, 04:59:42 PM

Mookie, that looks perfect. cheap enough for me to disamentle and rebuild into something roadworthy [evil]

I`m sure you can set up something good with it. Maybe put the transformer under your seat or hide it in the side panel.
Title: Re: Tech question about DC-DC voltage converter
Post by: Aflac on March 29, 2010, 03:57:33 PM
He Man. I got temporary solution for ya not water proof though... They sell a variable voltage charger at Radio Shack just cut the end off and soldier it on your connection in the camera. The min voltage is 3 volts don't know if this will help you... (edit) be very careful you get the polarity correct the battery should show which side is positive and the charger shows the same wether the center pin is positive or not. When you cut the plug off leave about 6" this way you can use your VOM meter to see which wire goes to the center pin ie: black w/white stripe or black.

http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=3875413#tabsetBasic (http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=3875413#tabsetBasic)

(http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k195/john543/P1010203.jpg)