Ducati Monster Forum

Are they worth it?

I know Duc parts are expensive, I could live with a few scratches.

Looking to getting back on a Monster the cheapest way possible without having to resort to getting a 600 series. Could/would live with a 900 (carbed or ie) would rather a 2000/2001 injected 900.


Just thinking out loud.  :P

Nothing wrong with them and I can say that from experience.
Not fixing them but owning.
I'd say you'll find a 900 carb for a pretty decent price.
What sorta budget do you got?

I think it depends on how much damage it has. A mate of mine is currently doing an 848. In the past he has purchased and fixed up an ST4, speed triple and a few Kawasakis. He apparently has made money on each. I think the trick is searching worldwide for parts with the benefit of a strong Aus $$.

I think a monster would turn out OK as there are many standard parts on here for cheap. Its the bling that can be expensive!

It's luck of the draw on auction pricing.

The day i went, people were bidding stupid money on smashed bikes ie $7k on GSXR600's (that still require $800 rego + repairs) that you could buy unsmashed for around $9k.

My mate saw a badly smashed 1098 go for $26k. He got a bargain on a BMW but the bargains seem to be very rare. The scooters were great value. Cosmetic damage going for around $300.

You might need to go a few times to find something well priced. I dare say a cosmetic damaged ducati will still fetch a premium and you might only save a few hundred vs buying a non-crashed model. Plus you won't know whats wrong with it at auction, it's just assumed damage. Pretty risky for a Duc given the price of parts. I didn't end up buying one after my visit to the auction as i couldn't see the point in saving $500 but potentially risking so much.

I guess as you say buying at auction is always up and down.
Sometimes as you said people are paying silly money for bikes but that sort of money
you'd find people are buying track bikes and don't intend them for road use, so if they pay 6k or 8k
it's a bargin to them, instead of buying a roadie that someone is trying to sell.

Mr T.I.B good to hear from you man!

Some word of experience:

1. Buy at the right price. check out the cost of replacement parts before you bid on something.
2. Always anticipate repairing more than what you see is initially wrong with the bike because there will always be something extra to spend on especially if you can't start the bike.
3. When the bike is on the written off register you will need to take the bike over the pits at the RTA. There is a fee for the inspection of around $400 just to clear the write off status. When you go over the pits you must show what you have spent on the repairs. They even go to the extent of calling the places that supplied you parts just to confirm you have not provided bogus receipts. I completed a stat dec stating I completed the repairs myself and supplied all receipts. Just remember the RTA is looking for scamers re birthing cars & bikes.
4. On top of the $400 you need to get a blue slip plus pay for rego.
5. Lastly, if you go to sell the bike just remember the written off status will be noted on REVS which may devalue the bike.

Robs 2cents [bacon]

 [thumbsup]

Yeah. I got the shits one day last December, & took myself off. Not riding and being on this site doesn't mix.

Hardly seems worth going the auction route, in the coming months I'll see what the budget can handle and maybe go the 800/900 route.  :D

Whichever way you Mr Super Wood T.I.B Duck it'll be great to have you back here and on a bike.

I do know of a nice looking S4 going for a good price!

Whats your budget??

Not pigmy's bike?  ???

Not sure about my budget yet. It would be in the $8k-$9k range, I would say. Lower than that, even better. :D


 [thumbsup] It would be great to be back. Knowing that this bike would be more a toy than my main form of transport will make me appreciate it more.

I did see a nice looking 98 900s on ebay. But I'm not exactly in the market at the moment.

I think you need to give him a call.  [thumbsup]

Let me know if you need his number!

WHAT !!!

         What smoking cyclinder ??





              Mmick

never heard of or seen such a thing (unless you be right behind uncle chop chop)

Sorry might be mistaken, thought that last time I saw it there was a James Bond like smoke screen trailing.

Yours doesn't smoke Mmick, it's performance vapour from the speed you carry in corners.

Thanks

Soooooo, now my next q would either be 2V or 4V. I suppose if the price is right, I'd go either way, fridge or no fridge.  ;)

But if I had the money, I've always had a crush on your bike Rob.  [cheeky]

Hmmm...

http://news.smh.com.au/breaking-news-national/rerego-ban-to-prevent-car-rebirthing-20100408-rtpg.html (http://news.smh.com.au/breaking-news-national/rerego-ban-to-prevent-car-rebirthing-20100408-rtpg.html)

http://www.rta.nsw.gov.au/newsevents/downloads/minister_releases/media_release100408.html?hhid=writeoff (http://www.rta.nsw.gov.au/newsevents/downloads/minister_releases/media_release100408.html?hhid=writeoff)

That ain't gonna work out well for motorcycles (or motorcycle insurance...)

big

Awwwww shucks mate your making me blush. :-[

Sounds like you've got until August.

Seems such a waste, s'pose there will be a lot of reasonable machines going to the crusher.

But if they are just not to be registered, does this mean that they are still options for the track, etc? Could see a big drop in the market value of track bikes.

This is a good thing as a lot of the stolen and re-birthing should stop.
For example the thieves would steal a late model car worth big dollars and strip enough parts of it to make it a repairable write off.
They would then buy it back at an insurance company auction cheap, fit all the parts back to it & sell it.
Big profit, little cost and insurance companies losing out big time.
I know we don't really care about them but then all their costs are passed on to the end consumer.

Also dangerous shoddy repairs will decrease.

Track bike prices will decrease and there should also be lots more parts available cheap !

This is a really smart decision and a long time coming.

The problem that I see is that you may have vehicles written off for relatively minor cosmetic damage (say scratched engine casing and frame on a Monster) ... so this vehicle would never be allowed to be registered again?

Seems a little strange. But like all things it will depend on how it is implemented and enforced ... if it is anything like the Government's idea of 'safer roads' I won't hold much hope.

But no argument that re-birthing is BAD.

Really? S'pose I don't know you [cheeky]

Sorry Matty if I offended, I was speaking generally not about anyone's bike in particular.
This whole issue will make a big difference to the smash repair,car side of the automotive industry

And  yes Betty if it is an insurance write off it will now have the Vin number marked NEVER TO BE REGISTERED.

Nickati

Nickati, I don't think that you were the one confusing him? ???

What am I doing? You are sitting right next to me and I am posting you a reply? This Forum stuff really is addictive.
While I'm at it, I'm making myself a cuppa. Want one?  [coffee]

 [roll]

PM sent  ;D

Cool

Gone Rob

Ok, might be a bit cold by the time I get there though  [coffee] better make that a nice  [wine] or a  [drink] cheers  [beer]

Oops..... not me?




                                Mmick

Wtf just happened in this thread? Geez I'm gonna give up these long work hours so I can keep up with my fav soap opera, right here on the ozmo forum  [cheeky]

just jokes people!

btw, we now have some serious household-double-posting happening in this forum
- betty and jukie
- signora and nickati
- two other that shall remain nameless..

lucky the bronster just reads and has not registered an account - it seems to be coming into fashion  ;D

yep

I only just come back & the shit starts flying!  ;D


Awesome.  [thumbsup]

 such is your alure and charm buddy  [cheeky]

I've got charm up the ying yang!

Sorry goldFiSh. The result of Mr and Mrs Nickati having a love of all things Ducati (and His and Her Laptops). Also, contrary to popular belief, married couples can have a great deal in common and like each other.  [laugh] [laugh] [laugh]
Will try to be a bit more concise and stick to the topic. Sorry!  [bow_down]
End of threadjack.  [thumbsup]

Don't stick on topic - no one here does, why should you start!

Don't worry, I'm sitting here posting with Bron across the room on her laptop - you're not alone!

Just Bron has decided to keep off the DMF as she doesn't rate Ducs as highly as per beloved vespa, and doesn't want to start an argument she can't win - cause ducs are better (and i hope she doesn't read this over my shoulder)

LOL and she offers everyone Coffee last night and I end up getting it  ;D

Was there a topic ???

I can speak from experience, The MV has been great fun to work on. It was IMO a cheap way of getting a bike. You would have better chance getting reasonably priced parts for a monster than I did for the MV. I have spent  about $9k on it. the only thing I haven't done is but new plastics (not an issue with monster) I repaired them myself and painted them myself. As its a track bike I am not too concerned.
As for the costs, I could have probably haggled a registered and good condition bike to maybe $13 - $15k. Cost saving of buying a repairable write off is maybe 30% less than good second hander but it will always be worth 20-3-% less because of its history.
I should prob post some pics, I used my phone so they are not too flash but it looks OK.
(http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk203/Stozza_photos/steve%20stuff/mv1.jpg)
(http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk203/Stozza_photos/mv2.jpg)

Look at this site regularly,http://www.motorcycledisposals.com.au/Bikes/Bikes%20Currently%20Tendering/Currently%20Tendering.html (http://www.motorcycledisposals.com.au/Bikes/Bikes%20Currently%20Tendering/Currently%20Tendering.html) its were I got mine (I offered about 30% less than advertised price and got it accepted straight away.) they are great guys, will help you out and will be straight up with you about the damage to the bikes.
There's another 2c for ya!

My Story in short:

Ducati monster 620ie

Repairable write off,

$6500 at Auctions (have seen Cheaper)

"Water Damage"

Had to replace a Pillion foot peg and i have a ding in the fuel tank...

My experience, Alot of money saved!

Very nice Tri ,when's it's first trackday  ???

Monday 26th April  [thumbsup], Doing lvl 1 superbike school on Fiday 23rd on the monster then taking the MV on Monday to give it a test run. I will be there with my brother in-law on his cbr (repaired), just doing slow group so I can get used to it and make adjustments at my own pace. I am excited though  8)

Great drop in and say hello I'm normally the garage next to Pitt exit.

So that was you who made my jaw drop at turn 9 at the creek!  ;)

What have I done  ???

Nothing I'm sure you are very innocent!

yeh right vince is innocent [evil], he is Italian ya know [roll]