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Title: Stranded in San Diego - bike is misbehaving
Post by: NoisyDante on April 10, 2010, 02:41:40 PM
I need some help here. I rode from LA to SAn Diego and upon getting here, the bike started jerking at stops.  Now when I try to start it I get the red oil warning, the ignition clicks, but no start up.  Gas light is not on, I charged the battery last night, fuses are all fine.  Can someone give me an idea of what's going on?  Also, it isn't doing it anymore but the gauges would flicker and not do the usual calibration of the dials.

I don't know what else to describe, could it need time to cool down? ???


Title: Re: Stranded in San Diego - bike is misbehaving
Post by: Ddan on April 10, 2010, 03:15:19 PM
How old is the battery?  That would be my first guess


Title: Re: Stranded in San Diego - bike is misbehaving
Post by: NoisyDante on April 10, 2010, 03:15:58 PM
Only a few months old.


Title: Re: Stranded in San Diego - bike is misbehaving
Post by: DucHead on April 10, 2010, 03:43:05 PM
Check the ground to the motor (right side near the crankcase breather).


Title: Re: Stranded in San Diego - bike is misbehaving
Post by: NoisyDante on April 10, 2010, 05:26:49 PM
Why would the oil light be on?


Title: Re: Stranded in San Diego - bike is misbehaving
Post by: Popeye the Sailor on April 10, 2010, 06:43:36 PM
Why would the oil light be on?

Mine stays on until the bike is running. AFAIK, it means "hey the key is on but my oil pressure is low!" which is irrelevant unless the bike is running.


And at least you're stuck in San Diego, and not some hellhole like Tijuana, Colorado, or New Hampshire (You can tell them apart as Tijuana has less snow, and New Hampshirites talk funny).


Title: Re: Stranded in San Diego - bike is misbehaving
Post by: danaid on April 10, 2010, 06:57:40 PM
  My 696 was doing similar things,(ignition clicks and all) and it turned out to be a bad battery. I had it on a battery tender and It showed full charge, the volt gauge on the bike read 12.5v. It died on the fourth day of commuting to work.

 at least you can find a shop/Ducati dealer nearby, GP motors?



 


Title: Re: Stranded in San Diego - bike is misbehaving
Post by: NoisyDante on April 10, 2010, 07:21:10 PM
Yes, thankfully I'm not in Tijuana, though I still dont know my way around.

I'm wondering hat placed will be open tomorrow. Might be the battery though that doesn't explain the jerking when the revs dropped upon arrival.

I'll try to run start it tomorrow too.  Is it dangerous to fill it with gas while it is running??  Probably, right?


Title: Re: Stranded in San Diego - bike is misbehaving
Post by: Popeye the Sailor on April 10, 2010, 07:32:12 PM
Yes, thankfully I'm not in Tijuana, though I still dont know my way around.

I'm wondering hat placed will be open tomorrow. Might be the battery though that doesn't explain the jerking when the revs dropped upon arrival.

I'll try to run start it tomorrow too.  Is it dangerous to fill it with gas while it is running??  Probably, right?

Unless you have two keys with you how would you open the tank with the bike on?  :P



If it's running I would shut it off, get gas, and if the battery is dead, you can always roll start it.


Title: Re: Stranded in San Diego - bike is misbehaving
Post by: NoisyDante on April 10, 2010, 07:41:25 PM
Unless you have two keys with you how would you open the tank with the bike on?  :P

If it's running I would shut it off, get gas, and if the battery is dead, you can always roll start it.

ahhhh touché!  I've been drinking you see.



Title: Re: Stranded in San Diego - bike is misbehaving
Post by: Howie on April 10, 2010, 07:43:35 PM
Alternator output is low at low engine speeds, which can cause problems when a fuel injected bike has a bad battery.  Get the battery load tested, check the battery connections and the ground on the engine as described by Pompetta.  Don't just look, disassemble and clean.  If the battery and connections are good the bike should now start.  Now it is time to check charging system output.  Ummm...2007?  Still under warranty?


Title: Re: Stranded in San Diego - bike is misbehaving
Post by: NoisyDante on April 11, 2010, 07:48:39 AM
The bike started up this morning so I'm hoping it does again when I'm ready to leave and when I have to stop for gas.  I will check my battery connections before riding.

The temperature got to 267, is that abnormally high??  This is so weird.  I'm sure the solution is going to be simple as shit.


Title: Re: Stranded in San Diego - bike is misbehaving
Post by: CapnCrunch on April 11, 2010, 10:34:33 AM
try some injector cleaner


Title: Re: Stranded in San Diego - bike is misbehaving
Post by: NoisyDante on April 11, 2010, 11:57:02 AM
I made it back to LA, the bike started fine.  Looks like a ghost in the machine.  I'll be checking the battery connections and I'll have it load tested.  The battery is only 3 months old and it was on a tender until i left.  While I'm at it I might replace the spark plugs and check the solenoid and starter circuit.  Might be time to pick up a digital volt ohm meter as well as my own load tester.


Title: Re: Stranded in San Diego - bike is misbehaving
Post by: DoubleEagle on April 11, 2010, 04:22:40 PM
The bike started up this morning so I'm hoping it does again when I'm ready to leave and when I have to stop for gas.  I will check my battery connections before riding.

The temperature got to 267, is that abnormally high??  This is so weird.  I'm sure the solution is going to be simple as shit.
If it were my bike , 267 would be extremely high.

Dolph      :)


Title: Re: Stranded in San Diego - bike is misbehaving
Post by: NoisyDante on April 11, 2010, 04:46:17 PM
That's where it peaked at after doing 85mph mostly on the 5 and 405, i was in 5th or 6th gear at about 7000 to 8000 rpm for almost 2 hours straight.

I might talk to the guy I bought the bike from, see if he had similar experiences with it.

I'll mull over my bike issues with a cigar.  [coffee]




Title: Re: Stranded in San Diego - bike is misbehaving
Post by: Popeye the Sailor on April 11, 2010, 06:20:53 PM
If it were my bike , 267 would be extremely high.

Dolph      :)

You have a water cooled bike, not an air cooled bike.


ND-that's not a rediculous temp for yer bike. I also think that you have an electrical gremlin, and the temp is not related.


Title: Re: Stranded in San Diego - bike is misbehaving
Post by: NoisyDante on April 11, 2010, 07:17:45 PM
I also think that you have an electrical gremlin, and the temp is not related.

I think that as well.  I like that term, electrical gremlin.  Thanks, the load test will reveal a lot i think.


Title: Re: Stranded in San Diego - bike is misbehaving
Post by: gh0stie on April 12, 2010, 11:24:19 AM
has your bike been in water lately? (rain, swimming pools etc)

I had similar gremlins on mine a while back and it turned out to be water in the instrument cluster.....it sort of went away by itself

http://ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=34140.msg596204#msg596204 (http://ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=34140.msg596204#msg596204)

Also, your battery can show a full charge on the tester and still be dead if it doesn't have enough core cranking amps (or something like that)


Title: Re: Stranded in San Diego - bike is misbehaving
Post by: NoisyDante on April 12, 2010, 11:27:31 AM
No contact with water, I did check the gauges multipin as well.  I'm picking up a load tester today after work, then we'll see if the battery was the culprit.  Thanks


Title: Re: Stranded in San Diego - bike is misbehaving
Post by: somegirl on April 12, 2010, 03:14:52 PM
267 is in a reasonable range for an air-cooled monster.


Title: Re: Stranded in San Diego - bike is misbehaving
Post by: NoisyDante on April 12, 2010, 04:46:15 PM
267 is in a reasonable range for an air-cooled monster.

Thank you, I know you've got a 695 yourself.


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