I think these S2R1000 models are supposed to be smoother than what I'm experiencing. I bought the bike used and the vibs have been that way from my first extended ride. Are there any things fellow owners have found to cause vibration, especially with regard to the throttle hand numbness.
So, let me see if i understand you. You think the vibration is causing the numbness? Or do you think you are just leaning too forward?
Any combination of the above. my 900 did the same thing.
you can try lubing the throttle cable and stop grabbing the throttle so hard. it will help with relaxing ur muscles.
I have mounted higher and more pullback bars so I'm no longer leaning on them like the stock bar position. The left side doesn't get vibration anywhere near as the right. I make a conscious effort to keep a light touch on the bars. I get the same feeling when I use my two-stroke weedwacker. So yes I think vibration is causing numbness.
Throttle cable is new and lubed, so is the throttle to bar interface.
The right hand side shouldn't vibrate more than the left? It sounds like your right hand is sensitive.
I don't know if anything can be done, but maybe try a physio.
I enjoy my Grip Puppies, which are foam tubes mounted in addition to your excisting grips.
http://www.casporttouring.com/store/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=CST&Product_Code=GPSMALL&Category_Code=GRIPPUP (http://www.casporttouring.com/store/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=CST&Product_Code=GPSMALL&Category_Code=GRIPPUP)
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The older Monsters used a heavy weight in the bar end to reduce vibrations in the bars.
Maybe try that.
Bar ends are OEM and weigh more than aftermarket one I have seen. Although I feel that the state of tune is good as the bike runs well. Admittedly I haven't compared it to another 1K Monster. I wonder if anything in the state of tune could be diagnosed to be the cause of unwanted vibrations- a spark plug, or ignition timing or cam timing. How about the dry clutch? It sure does rattle under the solid cover. Stock exhaust is mounted with isolators. My Quat ExBox is mounted directly to the engine case. Could that inject some vibrations? And finally would the modified exhaust itself be the cause? No change has been made to the ECU, however I read somewhere where none was necessary with this exhaust.
You probably have the heavy OEM bar ends, so nothing more to be done with those.
All the things you mention contributes to vibration, but they're "normal" and a part of riding a motorcycle.
It doesn't sound like your state of tune, spark plug a.s.o. is causing this.
Exhaust mounted directly.... hmmm.... maybe. Haven't tried it.
One small thing not mentioned - a very tight chain can cause a buzz. Check it?
Apart from my Grip Puppies suggestion, all I have is to have another Duc rider test yours/you test his or see a dealer/good shop. Even then, there's still the question of why this is only an issue with your right hand. Have you checked your mirrors to see if you can establish if the vibration is indeed only on the right side or both?
Yeah you can get bar risers as well. I also came across a product called "snake" something or another that is made to reduce vibration in the handlebars for Harleys. Its a spring shaped thing that you stuff in the handle bar and supposedly reduces vibration.
you mean like a welders hammer?
motovationusa also sells weights connected to bar ends.
http://www.barsnake.com/ (http://www.barsnake.com/)
Yeah, that.
I'll have to give that liquid barsnake a try.
Have any riders of S2R1000 or others that have changed from stock exhaust systems did you use the isolators that Ducati uses to mount the cat. Mine were not used but I think I can mount it with them if the exbox doesn't hang lower. With the bike jacked up to max ride height my riding buddy says its very close to touching the ground. When I return from a two-week tour with my BMW I'll look into it. I also need to install my new Penske shock!
Here is another solution: http://www.vibranator.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=08%2D000%2D500%2D1%2D002 (http://www.vibranator.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=08%2D000%2D500%2D1%2D002). I have not tried it.
Something that I thought of and have yet to try on my own is something that cyclists use for vibration absorption:
(http://www.hardie-bikes.com/smsimg/29/864261714.jpg)
The vibrations are significantly stronger on our Monster's so the density of the rubber would need to be greater, but in theory the result should be similar.
NERDPORN:
The Vibranator is a very efficient tuned mass damper tuned for the resonant frequencies of motorcycle handlebars.
The vibration induced involuntary muscle firing that causes numbness and tingling is the result the nervous system's defense mechanism that responds to a dominant consistent vibration frequency, the resonant frequency of the handlebar.
Tuned mass dampers interrupt and cancel the harmonic resonance so the vibration amplitude is radically reduced.
There are tuned mass dampers that use rubber as a spring. IMO, they are not as efficient as ones that use a metal spring. The rubber spring absorbs energy in both directions that should be used to exploit the oscillating mass better. The Vibranator uses hard rubber that is tightened/preloaded for mounting purposes. The mass is suspended by the metal spring and is allowed to move freely.
The end result is extreme hand pain relief and perception of a higher quality motorcycle. If your steering wheel buzzed in your car when it was new, your perception would be that it's not made well. That's why well built cars have many tuned mass dampers in them.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuned_mass_damper (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuned_mass_damper)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tonic_vibration_reflex (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tonic_vibration_reflex)
you can always do this mod, and no more vibration would be sensed.
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Quote from: RicorSHX on April 21, 2010, 05:42:36 PM
NERDPORN:
Tuned mass dampers interrupt and cancel the harmonic resonance so the vibration amplitude is radically reduced.
There are tuned mass dampers that use rubber as a spring. IMO, they are not as efficient as ones that use a metal spring. The rubber spring absorbs energy in both directions that should be used to exploit the oscillating mass better. The Vibranator uses hard rubber that is tightened/preloaded for mounting purposes. The mass is suspended by the metal spring and is allowed to move freely.
The end result is extreme hand pain relief and perception of a higher quality motorcycle. If your steering wheel buzzed in your car when it was new, your perception would be that it's not made well. That's why well built cars have many tuned mass dampers in them.
Thank you Dr. Cooper.
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RicorSHX sent me a PM which I responded to but I haven't heard anything in return.
So I have done some experimentation on why my right hand is effected by vibration causing it to essentially go to sleep, be numb, or tingly. The left hand is unaffected. Yes the handlebars vibrate. And tightness may be contributing to discomfort but it is not what you may think. I rode about 40 miles up a twisty bit of road at my normal spirited pace. Right hand needed relief and at about that time there was another 20 miles of boring highway at 55mph. Paying close attention I noticed that the vibration was really minimal at cruising speed. I grasped the throttle lightly but still my hand didn't get much relief. I pulled on the glove fingers and still with a light grip noticed that after a short distance my hand felt better. I experienced this once 4 years ago riding my BMW and on that day I cut the finger tips off both right and left sides of the summer gloves I was wearing at the time as I recall all felt better. Now I removed my right hand glove and rode another 60 miles of twisty roads, spirited pace, and no right hand issues. The gloves I was wearing color matched the Monster and fit well, I thought, until I needed them to hold the throttle. Odd that the left hand was doing fine. I'm right hand dominate so maybe the hand is larger requiring a XL glove.
I had an XL pair in the garage so I rode with the color matched L on the left side and the old XL on the right. Problem gone. All I can determine from this is that when grasping the throttle the webbing between the thumb and index is compressing under pressure as well as the glove finger tips are compressing my digits causing the blood to stop flowing or nerve compression, similar to having your foot tingle and "go to sleep" when it is positioned a certain way, like legs crossed when sitting.
Although this should be apparent I shall still mention it the sitting to handlebar position between my BMW and Monster are different. Less weight upon the handlebars on the BMW.
Perhaps this chapter in search of comfort is not over but needless to say I'm searching for a new pair of XL gloves.
I this process I began to pay close attention to seams of the gloves too. Some of my gloves have a seam on the thumb that is right in contact with the throttle causing an irritation and other gloves have the seam slightly off that very spot. I tried on several gloves at several different retailers selling several different manufactures. I can't seem to find the proper fitting glove. Some were okay in the thumb but tight in the little finger and/or way long in the index. In the meantime I guess my finger tips will be exposed.
Maybe these?
http://www.leeparksdesign.com/catalog_items.asp?pagenum=1&uTotalRecords=&uLimitPartName=&uLimitPartNumber=&cat=530-3637&imgview=y (http://www.leeparksdesign.com/catalog_items.asp?pagenum=1&uTotalRecords=&uLimitPartName=&uLimitPartNumber=&cat=530-3637&imgview=y)
Since you are an experienced rider you probably have hand position and no death grip worked out. You might try different weight bar ends as this will alter vibration and perhaps a cramp buster or similar device.
http://www.crampbuster.com/ (http://www.crampbuster.com/)