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Title: Bought the wrong tire Post by: seevtsaab on April 19, 2010, 04:28:53 AM Somewhere along the way I got confused when ordering a front tire of all things.
This was just as / just before the riding season started here in NW VT (early-mid March). Got it stuck in my head I was using a Michelin Pilot Road 2CT and that's what I ordered, replacing a Pilot Road 2.I'm feeling a bit of difference with the 2CT - not quite as grippy. Could be the tire's new, could be the cold roads, could be winter salt season residue, could be alot of things. With a Pilot Road 2 on the back, am I going to be sorry living with this front tire? I'll probably run it a pound or two soft, but I'm concerned about spirited riding (no track). I can use all the confidence I can get, already got the shitty front end to worry about (05 620). Tell me I'll love it fine once it's better scuffed and the roads warm up? Title: Re: Bought the wrong tire Post by: DCXCV on April 19, 2010, 05:36:11 AM As far as I know there are only the Pilot Road 2 and the Pilot Power 2CT. If you got the Power 2CT it's actually more grippy than the Road 2.
http://two-wheels.michelin.com/2w/front/index.jsp?codeRubrique=2092004103747&lang=EN (http://two-wheels.michelin.com/2w/front/index.jsp?codeRubrique=2092004103747&lang=EN) Title: Re: Bought the wrong tire Post by: Desmo Demon on April 19, 2010, 08:15:49 AM As far as I know there are only the Pilot Road 2 and the Pilot Power 2CT. IIRC, there is the....Pilot Road Pilot Road 2ct Pilot Power Pilot Power 2ct and the....Sport HPX, Power One, Power Race, and Power Pure. For some reason I want to say that the Pilot Road 2 was the predecessor to the Road 2ct and is no longer manufactured, but I'm a Pirelli guy. If the Road 2ct is giving you issues, especially in curves, I would probably guess it is cold roads, cold tires, or sand/trash in the road. The 2ct technology is supposed to do better in the curves with softer compounds on the sides than a single compound tire when looking at sport-touring tires. Title: Re: Bought the wrong tire Post by: He Man on April 19, 2010, 08:19:02 AM road 2ct takes a bit more heat to warm up, and i find that they are paricularly slippery when cold, but they are pretty awesome when warmed up though.
Title: Re: Bought the wrong tire Post by: Statler on April 19, 2010, 08:44:31 AM When exactly are you guys slipping a front tire on the street?
Title: Re: Bought the wrong tire Post by: Popeye the Sailor on April 19, 2010, 08:46:19 AM When exactly are you guys slipping a front tire on the street? My commute in. Typically on tar snakes in the rain. ;D Title: Re: Bought the wrong tire Post by: Statler on April 19, 2010, 09:04:17 AM My commute in. Typically on tar snakes in the rain. ;D ok. And shiny paint. And center road oil in light misty weather. Tire make a difference there? Honest question. I haven't felt a difference. Title: Re: Bought the wrong tire Post by: Grampa on April 19, 2010, 09:27:14 AM thats cuz lawyers have no feelings
zing! [laugh] ;D Title: Re: Bought the wrong tire Post by: He Man on April 19, 2010, 09:36:12 AM When exactly are you guys slipping a front tire on the street? i thought we're talking about rears here. i dont slide the front...not with out crashing atleast. Title: Re: Bought the wrong tire Post by: zooom on April 19, 2010, 10:11:28 AM i thought we're talking about rears here. i dont slide the front...not with out crashing atleast. I thought that was Spidey! ZING! Title: Re: Bought the wrong tire Post by: DCXCV on April 19, 2010, 11:51:12 AM IIRC, there is the.... Pilot Road Pilot Road 2ct Pilot Power Pilot Power 2ct The Michelin site has a Road 2 (advertised as featuring 2CT technology) and a Power 2CT. The Road 2 may very well say "CT" on the tire itself, though. Title: Re: Bought the wrong tire Post by: Popeye the Sailor on April 19, 2010, 12:34:25 PM ok. And shiny paint. And center road oil in light misty weather. Tire make a difference there? Honest question. I haven't felt a difference. I couldn't even tell you what's on the bike. Long as it's round I've never noticed any poor effect, 'cept those caused by the rider. Title: Re: Bought the wrong tire Post by: Howley on April 19, 2010, 02:38:05 PM The road 2 is the predecessor to the road 2ct. I think the 2ct is a better tire having used both
Title: Re: Bought the wrong tire Post by: seevtsaab on April 20, 2010, 07:57:59 AM OK duh I got the Power 2CT instead of the Road 2 - I mispoke about getting the 'Road 2CT'
When I say sliding, I'm talking very subtle, on a casual lean on a 25F morning. Doesn't feel as bad as a tar snake. Haven't been around any sphincter-tightening corners-on-rails. I had been watching prices in the Road2 (~$125) and I saw $95 (Power 2CT whoops) and jizzed in my pants. The description listed (I looked at this on the motorcycle-superstore site) for both tires is identical. I generally consider conditions when cornering, and I'm no daredevil, but I do enjoy the lateral G's occasionally. I'll go with He-Man's cold tires, and others cold road theory for now. When the group gets over to the Adirondacks on a few of the twisties I'll know for sure. Title: Re: Bought the wrong tire Post by: He Man on April 20, 2010, 08:07:38 AM 25F? my road2ct is ROCK hard in that temp and ive had it slip and wiggle just turning. Let it warm up!
Title: Re: Bought the wrong tire Post by: Spidey on April 20, 2010, 08:14:49 AM When I say sliding, I'm talking very subtle, on a casual lean on a 25F morning. Unless you have ice spikes on your tires or dirt knobbies, they're gonna feel like that at 25F. You're fine with a 2CT. It's an even better performing tire than your Roads. It'll feel great once the roads are warmer and after you've shaken the winter rust off your riding comfort level. Title: Re: Bought the wrong tire Post by: Pip on April 20, 2010, 09:44:39 AM It's gonna be more slippery until the Mould Release Compound has worn off.
Doesn't help that you are at 25F. Give it time, ride the MRC off, and enjoy. [thumbsup] Title: Re: Bought the wrong tire Post by: ODrides on April 21, 2010, 04:06:09 AM You should run tire warmers. But you'll need a very long extension cord!
Title: Re: Bought the wrong tire Post by: red baron on April 21, 2010, 04:51:27 AM Once it warms up, you'll find out how soft those Power 2ct's are.
Title: Re: Bought the wrong tire Post by: junior varsity on April 22, 2010, 06:28:53 AM pilot road front slips on me when cold. pucker entering the tollway one morning. it was zero fun.
i like the wear-life, i don't like the grip. |