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Title: Below triple clip-ons
Post by: duc_poultry on April 28, 2010, 04:26:08 PM
Anybody have them? Advantages? Disadvantages?



Title: Re: Below triple clip-ons
Post by: Mr.Saturn on April 28, 2010, 04:39:15 PM
I've got a set of MW clips set below the triple; install took a bit longer than some brands but they work fine.  I have the optional risers that bring them up an inch or two.  Still far lower than stock bars.  I like em for the looks, but I'm indifferent on how they feel.  Honestly the first ride was the only time I even noticed they were different - I went to lean like I did with the stock bars and found the motions of my arms needed to change a tad.


Title: Re: Below triple clip-ons
Post by: 1KDS on April 28, 2010, 05:03:05 PM
Advantage: looks awesome


(Juan's bike)
(http://ducatimonsterworldwide.org/BOMb/001/001-02.jpg)


Title: Re: Below triple clip-ons
Post by: NoisyDante on April 28, 2010, 06:14:07 PM
Mine are below the triple without any rise to them.  I find them comfortable, and I like how there is more weight distributed to the front.  I feel more confident in turns.  And the lower profile looks awesome, IMO.

Downside is that the real-estate for brake lines and wiring lessens greatly, so it takes a little ingenuity and patience to get it all to fit again.


Title: Re: Below triple clip-ons
Post by: DRKWNG on April 28, 2010, 06:40:10 PM
I've got SpeedyMoto zero rise clip ons mounted bellow the top triple on my SC.  Looks nice, but is a little extreme in the ergo department.


Title: Re: Below triple clip-ons
Post by: He Man on April 28, 2010, 08:19:30 PM
unless you have long arms or are very tall, most people wont like clip ons without any rise.

i have below triple clip ons....with 2.5" rise.


Title: Re: Below triple clip-ons
Post by: Mr.Saturn on April 28, 2010, 09:19:18 PM
unless you have long arms or are very tall, most people wont like clip ons without any rise.

i have below triple clip ons....with 2.5" rise.

I'm 5'4" and I really doubt I could handle zero-rise bars.


Title: Re: Below triple clip-ons
Post by: duc_poultry on April 29, 2010, 01:33:58 AM
Well I'm 5'10 with basketball arms I'm going to see if bacon junkie will let me try his bike! But I'm thinking it would give a lot handling benefits...


Title: Re: Below triple clip-ons
Post by: avizpls on April 29, 2010, 05:24:29 AM

advantage: racing
disadvantage: everything else

(http://www.personal.psu.edu/adv11/front.jpg)

(http://www.personal.psu.edu/adv11/rear.jpg)



(http://www.personal.psu.edu/adv11/background2.jpg)


Title: Re: Below triple clip-ons
Post by: sbrguy on April 29, 2010, 07:56:59 AM
i agree with the post above,

i never understood why someone would use clip ons till i tried a track day on a sportbike with them on, and for the first time clip ons were actually comfortable the entire time and made complete sense.


Title: Re: Below triple clip-ons
Post by: He Man on April 29, 2010, 08:43:48 AM
thats why you get adjustable risers..... above triple for the street, and below triple for the track.

and FTR, once you riden the mosnter with more weight in the front, going backwards from clip ons to bars makes the front feeeeellll liggghtttttttttt. not good feeling.


Title: Re: Below triple clip-ons
Post by: MAXdB on April 29, 2010, 09:25:58 AM
i'm only 5'10" (on a good day) and love my no rise clipons-admittedly I have only owned sportbikes before my monster so I am used to that position.. but I think it may have more to do with the way you ride and personal preference than physical dimension.


Title: Re: Below triple clip-ons
Post by: scduc on April 29, 2010, 01:30:43 PM
The problem with going above, is that you have to drop/ raise the front end. Which in return, effects the suspension. I went on-top of with my 750 and did not have any problem. Now, I am thinking of going below with Speedy's high boys'.


Title: Re: Below triple clip-ons
Post by: duc_poultry on April 29, 2010, 01:53:39 PM
I'm pretty sure Im going to make the change Im just firguring out which I want to buy :)


Title: Re: Below triple clip-ons
Post by: He Man on April 29, 2010, 02:29:54 PM
how much rise do you want? How much adjistbility do you want?

SPeedymoto tallboys, adjustibility? 5/10 Rise? 10/10
Apex Adjustable Risers adjustibility? 10/10 rise 8/10
Apex no rise clip ons? Adjustbility 5/10 Rise 0/10 ease of install 10/10



Title: Re: Below triple clip-ons
Post by: avizpls on April 29, 2010, 04:32:05 PM
I have to recommend against the apex adjustable set.

First, they are adjustable only in a single cone. Second, they do this by pivoting around the main bolt, and keeping from spinning by use of a small pin which aligns with holes on the clamp side. Eventually, on mine at least, they started to give. I could tighten them to the point of almost snapping the bolts-but I could still rotate the bar back and forth. Not easy, but hard braking and wheelies all in one day will move one of them just a smidge. And them a few months later more of a a smidge.....then you buy woodcroft or vortex.


Title: Re: Below triple clip-ons
Post by: DarkStaR on April 29, 2010, 04:53:25 PM
Tomaselli Clip-Ons:
(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y126/hundredpercentkill/dmf/IMG00007-20100429-1935.jpg)


Title: Re: Below triple clip-ons
Post by: uglyducky on April 29, 2010, 05:21:48 PM
what are you guys doing with the stock triple?  i just got some clip ons and am about to install them but feel like the top triple is gonna look like poop now.  most of you getting billet triples?  any ideas that aren't gonna cost me hundreds?


Title: Re: Below triple clip-ons
Post by: duc_poultry on April 29, 2010, 06:22:42 PM
how much rise do you want? How much adjistbility do you want?

SPeedymoto tallboys, adjustibility? 5/10 Rise? 10/10
Apex Adjustable Risers adjustibility? 10/10 rise 8/10
Apex no rise clip ons? Adjustbility 5/10 Rise 0/10 ease of install 10/10



Honestly Im just looking for an aggressive riding position...


Title: Re: Below triple clip-ons
Post by: avizpls on April 30, 2010, 03:19:22 AM
Aggressive riding position?

http://www.turnoneracing.com/Clip-On-Hand-Controls/Vortex-Clipons/Vortex-Clipons-50mm-p164.html (http://www.turnoneracing.com/Clip-On-Hand-Controls/Vortex-Clipons/Vortex-Clipons-50mm-p164.html)

replacement bars are available for $15


Title: Re: Below triple clip-ons
Post by: avizpls on April 30, 2010, 03:21:12 AM
and for the holes the stock bar will leave behind, just run some clean bolts into it. Looks fine.

(http://www.personal.psu.edu/adv11/top.jpg)

or that. Its a bar clamp from monsterparts.org. I milled out the bottom so it would fit over the tripple clamp main bolt, and milled the middle and put in a voltage monitor. (ok now im just showing off)


Title: Re: Below triple clip-ons
Post by: uglyducky on April 30, 2010, 11:55:55 AM
hahahahaha, looks great and i'm gonna take that and run with it.  thx.


Title: Re: Below triple clip-ons
Post by: FastAndLight on April 30, 2010, 12:58:32 PM
I just put on woodcraft clip ons with a rise below the triple. I replaced the stock triple with a speedymoto one.  I can't help you on the saving money front...

As for fit and feel, I absolutely love it.  That said, I'm 6'4" and have a whole lot of arm. The whole bike looks and feels so much better with the clip ons. 

(http://lh3.ggpht.com/_wOZuAIM4OIA/S8pnPvbqaYI/AAAAAAAACeQ/0HDGEWJofqU/s800/Ducati%20Mods%205.jpg)

(http://lh6.ggpht.com/_wOZuAIM4OIA/S8pnAcXGI2I/AAAAAAAACdw/5DURkHW7b9I/s800/Ducati%20Mods%201.jpg)

With the clip ons below the triple you will likely run into this problem:
(https://lh5.ggpht.com/_wOZuAIM4OIA/S8pnTAMm_sI/AAAAAAAACeY/alCQdrIwgyw/s800/Ducati%20Mods%206.jpg)
The gauges are now too high and things look funny with the windscreen on there. My next project is to figure out the gauge / headlight / windscreen issue.



Title: Re: Below triple clip-ons
Post by: duc_poultry on April 30, 2010, 01:15:01 PM
I really like the look!!! Im going to low pro with a heavier front wheel, and those look like that will do it...


Title: Re: Below triple clip-ons
Post by: He Man on April 30, 2010, 01:30:40 PM
lower teh gauges. problem solved


Title: Re: Below triple clip-ons
Post by: duc_poultry on April 30, 2010, 01:33:49 PM
lower teh gauges. problem solved

Yeah I was looking at the mounting... it doesnt look like that hard of a mod....


Title: Re: Below triple clip-ons
Post by: He Man on April 30, 2010, 01:41:10 PM
it isnt. if you look at the threads for the gauges, if they are through the length of the triple you should be fine just threading it from the buttom up.


Title: Re: Below triple clip-ons
Post by: uglyducky on April 30, 2010, 02:17:06 PM
geniuses.  this is better than discovery channel. 


Title: Re: Below triple clip-ons
Post by: b. on April 30, 2010, 02:19:58 PM
Not the greatest pic, but here's my setup: 

SpeedyMoto universal clip-ons mounted below the triple w/ lowered gauges.  There's a little bit of a rise built into the clip-on, but still plenty aggressive with how low they're mounted.

(http://lh4.ggpht.com/_beyYkNn5r7A/S80sCsKobhI/AAAAAAAAF-4/3S_-AcYsmGU/s800/DSC_0394.JPG)


Title: Re: Below triple clip-ons
Post by: FastAndLight on April 30, 2010, 03:42:52 PM
lower teh gauges. problem solved

Agreed, it should be easy.  Putting the gauges on from the other side is only part of the battle. I also want to lower the headlight and get rid of the dumb U bracket and just mount the headlight to the forks. I might even do it this weekend, but I also want to swap out the headlight or at least figure out a way to be able to see at night.  So part of that is deciding whether I want a stock looking light or something crazy.


Title: Re: Below triple clip-ons
Post by: He Man on April 30, 2010, 03:51:09 PM
or something crazy.

that sounds about right.


im trying to put a HID projector into my bucket.


Title: Re: Below triple clip-ons
Post by: avizpls on May 01, 2010, 09:07:53 AM
hahahahaha, looks great and i'm gonna take that and run with it.  thx.

let me know what you come up with


Title: Re: Below triple clip-ons
Post by: uglyducky on May 01, 2010, 02:51:42 PM
let me know what you come up with
will do. 


Title: Re: Below triple clip-ons
Post by: TrevOwnz on May 02, 2010, 08:40:07 PM
I've heard that Duc brakes are soft compared to Inlines and when you put triple clamps on when you brake hard all of your weight goes to your wrist and arms. For me I have weak wrist due to a break and would be bad for me. I don't know personally this is what others told me when I asked.


Title: Re: Below triple clip-ons
Post by: xcaptainxbloodx on May 02, 2010, 10:08:04 PM
you should never be putting weight on your wrists or arms. ESPECIALLY under braking.  grip the tank with your knees and keep the weight OFF the arms.


Title: Re: Below triple clip-ons
Post by: TrevOwnz on May 03, 2010, 09:19:32 PM
you should never be putting weight on your wrists or arms. ESPECIALLY under braking.  grip the tank with your knees and keep the weight OFF the arms.

I wasn't posting from personal experience. I know your legs and knees do the work on a track but when you think about it the lower the bars are the more your bent over or on your wrist even if your not holding up your weight you still will have more pressure on it if you do triple clamps. I mean I had a inline and my back hurt after a hours ride and now with the Duc it's not half as bad.


Title: Re: Below triple clip-ons
Post by: xcaptainxbloodx on May 04, 2010, 06:33:54 PM
first off, triple clamps wont change your stance at all (unless theyre raked but thats really not an issue with our bikes, its a chopper thing)

I assume you mean clip ons or perhaps specifying below the triple clip ons. assumptions made I stand by my previous statement, you never put weight on your hands or wrists, ever.  alright, maybe not ever, around town in traffic when your thighs start burning and stance doesnt really mean a damn then yeah, lean away.

But much of that discomfort is due to poorly set up lever ergonomics. The book  "total control" has a decent chapter on this .

the bigger issue with clip ons (when using proper riding technique) is the hunchback stance it puts you in. This is why many people say you cant ride on them all day. clip ons should hurt your back, not your wrists.

the claim that duc brakes are soft and somehow that means you would transfer weight to your wrists is confusing me. duc brakes are decent to good to amazing depending on the bike and any front brake is going to want to shift your weight forward.  Its up to you to make sure that weight stays off your arms and instead gets directed through your knees to the tank.  allowing it into your arms shifts weight to the front end (and its smaller contact patch) and will cause you to wreck in any number of horrid ways.


Title: Re: Below triple clip-ons
Post by: TrevOwnz on May 04, 2010, 10:10:30 PM
What I meant by soft breaks is when you brake hard the absorb a lot more than my 636 did. I understand what you mean about not putting weight on your wrist and I did agree with you so there isn't any need to try and prove me wrong I was just saying what someone told me.


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