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Title: 696/1100 dual headlight setup vs streetfighter over/under setup
Post by: Veloce-Fino on April 29, 2010, 12:57:14 PM
I have been searching for anyone who has done this to a 696/1100 but can't seem to find a single one. I don't mind the new style headlight but at the same time I am interested in seeing how these options might look.

Check out the different options on this site:

dual setup
http://www.xpostreetfighter.com/detail.aspx?ID=28 (http://www.xpostreetfighter.com/detail.aspx?ID=28)

Ducati SF style
http://www.xpostreetfighter.com/detail.aspx?ID=26 (http://www.xpostreetfighter.com/detail.aspx?ID=26)

They even offer a universal install kit for the conversion.

Opinions? Pictures? Photoshop jobs?
(http://www.ducatimonsterforum.org/BOMb/010/bomb002.jpg)
edit* cross posted the pics of the S4Rs from the homepage


Title: Re: 696/1100 dual headlight setup vs streetfighter over/under setup
Post by: DucatiTorrey on April 29, 2010, 01:20:31 PM
i was considering it too, you could be the first, do it, and post pictures!!

and streetfighter is a broad term, even before ducati made their steetfighter, i think that is what they mean on the website


Title: Re: 696/1100 dual headlight setup vs streetfighter over/under setup
Post by: Veloce-Fino on April 29, 2010, 01:25:45 PM
i was considering it too, you could be the first, do it, and post pictures!!

and streetfighter is a broad term, even before ducati made their steetfighter, i think that is what they mean on the website

Hmm, I think I might. I'll have to follow my usual method for considering major cosmetic mods. Sit and stare at my bike imagining the part installed on it.

It would be a real challenge due to the 696 headlight being directly integrated into the gauge cluster mount.

Hope it looks good!


Title: Re: 696/1100 dual headlight setup vs streetfighter over/under setup
Post by: Mojo S2R on April 29, 2010, 08:40:56 PM
Those have both been done on the older style monsters.  I've never seen them done on the new (696/1100).  I think you would be the first.  If you are interested in seeing some pix just use the search function and look for "Hesa Fire Headlight" and "dual headlight".  I like the look of the Hesa Fire Headlight but it was too skinny for my windscreen.  It looks good without a fairing and the new 696/1100 windscreen might even work with it.  The Hesa was also used on the Monstrada (Bomb bike a little while ago).  The only 696/1100 headlight mods I've seen other than painting/powdercoating the silver part of the headlight has been to install the headlight off on S2R and I just recently seen one with a Duc Streetfighter Headlight.  Search for "Streetfighter Headlight".  It was posted just last week IIRC.


Title: Re: 696/1100 dual headlight setup vs streetfighter over/under setup
Post by: DoWorkSon on April 29, 2010, 09:35:54 PM
Is is absolutely doable and pretty easy....

When I made the switch, I was debating between the dual and single... I went with single because i liked the classic/standard look.... But,with the same amount of ease I installed the single you could easily install the dual.

(http://i688.photobucket.com/albums/vv250/bsurjan/027-2.jpg)

(http://i688.photobucket.com/albums/vv250/bsurjan/009.jpg)

I bought the light/mount/turn signal comp from xpostreetfighter.com... The dual headlight is same mount/brackets and most likely the same wiring


Title: Re: 696/1100 dual headlight setup vs streetfighter over/under setup
Post by: Veloce-Fino on April 30, 2010, 09:05:45 AM
Was it a direct install with the included plug just working out of the the box or was there a bunch of cutting/splicing/soldering to get the light working properly?


*edit
Also, I'm about to buy the H-comp exhaust. How is the sound compared to stock or termi's. I love the look but am concerned that without any type of silencer the sound may not be very clean or have an attractive tone. I want to sound mean, but not like crap. Is the volume ear deafening? (I ride with a Harley owner w/ straightpipes unbaffeled and even this is not insanely loud)


Title: Re: 696/1100 dual headlight setup vs streetfighter over/under setup
Post by: DoWorkSon on April 30, 2010, 10:50:12 AM
Was it a direct install with the included plug just working out of the the box or was there a bunch of cutting/splicing/soldering to get the light working properly?



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Also, I'm about to buy the H-comp exhaust. How is the sound compared to stock or termi's. I love the look but am concerned that without any type of silencer the sound may not be very clean or have an attractive tone. I want to sound mean, but not like crap. Is the volume ear deafening? (I ride with a Harley owner w/ straightpipes unbaffeled and even this is not insanely loud)

No, it was not. This is a universal light so it is not specific to the 696/1100 wiring. What I did was cut off the plug on the stock headlight and solder that to the new one.... It really wasn't that difficult. I have a buddy who is good at soldering/wiring and was able to do it fairly quickly.

The most difficult part was making mounts for the gauges. It takes some times, and tools to get them right.

As far as the H-competition exhaust.... It's amazing! I had quat-d oval slipons.... I thought they sounded good and were loud with the baffles out... The under-seat exhaust blows it away in sound. Very clean and refined sound. I absolutely love it. It is loud, and earplugs are a must on long rides..... But, it sounds much more refined than my slipons did with the baffles removed. Bike seems to have much more power and get going much faster. It comes with a whole new mid-pipe as well as the muffler..... it's an excellent system.


Title: Re: 696/1100 dual headlight setup vs streetfighter over/under setup
Post by: FastAndLight on April 30, 2010, 12:43:04 PM
Have you checked out these:

http://www.desmorados.com/shop/catalog/default.php?cPath=350_266 (http://www.desmorados.com/shop/catalog/default.php?cPath=350_266)

Here is a dual unit in black for you:

http://www.desmorados.com/shop/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=350_266_566&products_id=1895 (http://www.desmorados.com/shop/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=350_266_566&products_id=1895)


Desmoworld has a good reputation around here and apparently the guys running it speak passable English (just in case http://translate.google.com (http://translate.google.com) isn't good enough for you).

It looks like they have cheaper prices and a good number of options.  I think somewhere on there they also sell fork mounts, but those are generally pretty easy to find.


Title: Re: 696/1100 dual headlight setup vs streetfighter over/under setup
Post by: Veloce-Fino on April 30, 2010, 02:34:09 PM
Have you checked out these:

http://www.desmorados.com/shop/catalog/default.php?cPath=350_266 (http://www.desmorados.com/shop/catalog/default.php?cPath=350_266)

Here is a dual unit in black for you:

http://www.desmorados.com/shop/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=350_266_566&products_id=1895 (http://www.desmorados.com/shop/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=350_266_566&products_id=1895)


Desmoworld has a good reputation around here and apparently the guys running it speak passable English (just in case http://translate.google.com (http://translate.google.com) isn't good enough for you).

It looks like they have cheaper prices and a good number of options.  I think somewhere on there they also sell fork mounts, but those are generally pretty easy to find.


This word "Doppelscheinwerfer " made my day,  it just says "twin headlights" but when you yell it angrily it's more sinister.


Title: Re: 696/1100 dual headlight setup vs streetfighter over/under setup
Post by: Veloce-Fino on April 30, 2010, 02:43:24 PM
No, it was not. This is a universal light so it is not specific to the 696/1100 wiring. What I did was cut off the plug on the stock headlight and solder that to the new one.... It really wasn't that difficult. I have a buddy who is good at soldering/wiring and was able to do it fairly quickly.

The most difficult part was making mounts for the gauges. It takes some times, and tools to get them right.

As far as the H-competition exhaust.... It's amazing! I had quat-d oval slipons.... I thought they sounded good and were loud with the baffles out... The under-seat exhaust blows it away in sound. Very clean and refined sound. I absolutely love it. It is loud, and earplugs are a must on long rides..... But, it sounds much more refined than my slipons did with the baffles removed. Bike seems to have much more power and get going much faster. It comes with a whole new mid-pipe as well as the muffler..... it's an excellent system.

Any chance you could take some close up photos of the method you used to mount the gauges? I am confident I could manage to make a nice bracket but I'd like to have a starting point. 


Title: Re: 696/1100 dual headlight setup vs streetfighter over/under setup
Post by: DoWorkSon on May 01, 2010, 10:20:09 AM
Any chance you could take some close up photos of the method you used to mount the gauges? I am confident I could manage to make a nice bracket but I'd like to have a starting point. 

http://ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=25427.0 (http://ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=25427.0)

Somewhat of a writeup... Some pics of the brackets I made... Pretty simple design that worked really well... Everything is hidden behind the gauge cover.

Now I have clipons and new handlebars so it's a tad bit different


Title: Re: 696/1100 dual headlight setup vs streetfighter over/under setup
Post by: DucatiTorrey on March 17, 2011, 04:44:32 PM
id like to see a 696 / 1100 with these over under style, maybe tucked deep back into the forks.
(http://www.fast-autos.net/diecast-cars-models/diecast-car-image-large/streetfighter-motorcycle-dominator-twin-dual-headlight_180433236374.jpg)


Title: Re: 696/1100 dual headlight setup vs streetfighter over/under setup
Post by: NateNewThread on June 11, 2011, 04:22:27 PM
id like to see a 696 / 1100 with these over under style, maybe tucked deep back into the forks.
(http://www.fast-autos.net/diecast-cars-models/diecast-car-image-large/streetfighter-motorcycle-dominator-twin-dual-headlight_180433236374.jpg)

Where can I purchase these? They are the exact ones I want to upgrade to.


Title: Re: 696/1100 dual headlight setup vs streetfighter over/under setup
Post by: DoWorkSon on June 11, 2011, 05:11:09 PM
spieglerusa.com

www.xpostreetfighter.com/ (http://)

monsterparts.com

to name a few....

It's a pretty standard design from the looks of it.. Probably same manufacturer



Title: Re: 696/1100 dual headlight setup vs streetfighter over/under setup
Post by: NateNewThread on June 11, 2011, 06:24:25 PM
thanks. Is the headlight more of a project to do over the winter or was it really that easy? I don't have accessibility to powder coating and no one I know is really any good at electric work.


Title: Re: 696/1100 dual headlight setup vs streetfighter over/under setup
Post by: 2-Skinny on June 11, 2011, 06:31:59 PM
I did the wiring for it- it is really easy. Not necessarily a Winter mod, you could do everything in a day if you had all your parts together.

 For the wiring you can solder and shrink tube the new connector to the old harness which I prefer (permanent and more secure) or even easier would be to use butt connectors or other crimp-on connectors.  Read any basic 12v wiring write up on line and you should be able to figure it out. 

As far as powder coating, you COULD get away with rattle can if you prime first, sand in between coats, and clear coat but it could chip easily.  The only reason we had the part powder coated is because we modded the headlight mount "ear" brackets shorter so the light would sit closer to the forks. 

Also, you need to bend two short pieces of aluminum or steel to hold instrument cluster because it normally mounts to top of stock headlight.  Check out DoWorkSon's write up on it for more info:

http://www.ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=25427.30 (http://www.ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=25427.30)








Title: Re: 696/1100 dual headlight setup vs streetfighter over/under setup
Post by: chiu on June 11, 2011, 06:58:54 PM
Anyone knows if it possible to install a streetfighter headlight onto a monster 1100??
Thanks.


Title: Re: 696/1100 dual headlight setup vs streetfighter over/under setup
Post by: DoWorkSon on June 11, 2011, 08:29:06 PM
You must also re-mount the gauge cluster... Installing headlight is easy, making a bracket to hold the gauge cluster takes some time and trial and error... Especially difficult if you don't have appropriate tools.

@chiu... Anything is possible... I bet that headlight costs a pretty penny
 


Title: Re: 696/1100 dual headlight setup vs streetfighter over/under setup
Post by: NateNewThread on June 19, 2011, 05:57:12 PM
I did the wiring for it- it is really easy. Not necessarily a Winter mod, you could do everything in a day if you had all your parts together.

 For the wiring you can solder and shrink tube the new connector to the old harness which I prefer (permanent and more secure) or even easier would be to use butt connectors or other crimp-on connectors.  Read any basic 12v wiring write up on line and you should be able to figure it out. 

As far as powder coating, you COULD get away with rattle can if you prime first, sand in between coats, and clear coat but it could chip easily.  The only reason we had the part powder coated is because we modded the headlight mount "ear" brackets shorter so the light would sit closer to the forks. 

Also, you need to bend two short pieces of aluminum or steel to hold instrument cluster because it normally mounts to top of stock headlight.  Check out DoWorkSon's write up on it for more info:

http://www.ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=25427.30 (http://www.ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=25427.30)


All good information, thanks. This project is getting closer and closer to happening and I couldn't be more excited. So you mentioned the soldering the new connectors to the old harness. Is this pretty straight forward? Once I am confident that I can do the electrical work I will get the wheels rolling of the project. Also, what about the turn signals? Do you have to replace the stock ones when you do the headlight? Do you get rid of them all together? Or do you use the stock ones?





Title: Re: 696/1100 dual headlight setup vs streetfighter over/under setup
Post by: 2-Skinny on June 20, 2011, 06:09:56 AM
You can probably get away with fitting the stock ones, but it would look lame.  Either buy a nice Rizoma set, a cheap plastic set, or don't run any.  The "ear" brackets for the headlight should come with spaces to mount.

As far as wiring, it is straight forward- the new connector has same amount of leads, just match up the stock harness to new plug, clip, solder new connections and shrink tube.  OR, like I said, if you aren't so hot soldering then us "butt" connectors or plug connectors.


Title: Re: 696/1100 dual headlight setup vs streetfighter over/under setup
Post by: Grrrly on June 20, 2011, 10:38:57 AM
just a heads up, if you want to purchase the dual headlights and monsterparts can't get them  google "dominator headlights" and you will find this style.    I had a set of them on my older gen Monster years ago.  

I don't know what the headlight connection plug looks like on the newer monster, but if it's a common 3 prong, you can go to napa and pick one up, then install that plug to your new light.  I don't know if you ever plan to do track days, but it's nice to be able to disconnect your headlight completely, just something to think about.  Also in case you change your mind in the future   ;)


Title: Re: 696/1100 dual headlight setup vs streetfighter over/under setup
Post by: Veloce-Fino on June 20, 2011, 05:32:45 PM
just a heads up, if you want to purchase the dual headlights and monsterparts can't get them  google "dominator headlights" and you will find this style.    I had a set of them on my older gen Monster years ago.  

I don't know what the headlight connection plug looks like on the newer monster, but if it's a common 3 prong, you can go to napa and pick one up, then install that plug to your new light.  I don't know if you ever plan to do track days, but it's nice to be able to disconnect your headlight completely, just something to think about.  Also in case you change your mind in the future   ;)

It's a different connector than the older monsters. I'd probably just cut it off and attack the connector to the dual headlights. If I wanted to switch back, solder it.


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