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Moto Board => Tech => Topic started by: Airborne on May 01, 2010, 12:25:41 PM

Title: ReInstalling Hub into SSSA (pic heavy)
Post by: Airborne on May 01, 2010, 12:25:41 PM
confused about where a couple of parts go because I didnt pay attention when I was ripping things apart.

Heres a parts diagram for reference
(http://lh4.ggpht.com/_jj3HiAAtMLU/S9yX8Grna7I/AAAAAAAAAl4/YKZGN5EjNPc/s1024/DSCN0180.JPG)

could someone match these to the above parts diagram?
(http://lh3.ggpht.com/_jj3HiAAtMLU/S9yZcoAcqcI/AAAAAAAAAm4/vGRZLv-760Y/s1024/DSCN0191.JPG)

also does anyone know what size bolt i can replace this with? I feel like it cant grab enough threads on the swingarm, I would like something longer. When I had it installed it also rubbed the brake disc.
(http://lh6.ggpht.com/_jj3HiAAtMLU/S9yY7ZbkAtI/AAAAAAAAAmg/kyScc8tE984/s1024/DSCN0187.JPG)

I had the caliper holder pushed flush with the swing arm, yet it still touched. It goes here.
(https://lh5.ggpht.com/_jj3HiAAtMLU/S9yY60I1wwI/AAAAAAAAAmc/Kg_wxHkTFZI/s1024/DSCN0186.JPG)

Are parts 7 and 8 from the diagram crammed in this old sprocket?
(https://lh5.ggpht.com/_jj3HiAAtMLU/S9yX9zYdJ2I/AAAAAAAAAmE/acDW8po0rOA/s1024/DSCN0183.JPG)

The old sprocket and the new supersprox looks like they share the same inner diameter?
(http://lh3.ggpht.com/_jj3HiAAtMLU/S9yY5mvM6qI/AAAAAAAAAmU/IovuDv2ik8Q/s1024/DSCN0184.JPG)

new sprocket in 42T, hard to find supersprox stealth these days.
(http://lh6.ggpht.com/_jj3HiAAtMLU/S9yX8uB70cI/AAAAAAAAAl8/FzxwCgKKrrs/s1024/DSCN0181.JPG)

swing arm porn (Powdercoat by Heman)
(http://lh4.ggpht.com/_jj3HiAAtMLU/S9yZbbcKKZI/AAAAAAAAAmw/hsKlbljUKew/s1024/DSCN0189.JPG)

(http://lh4.ggpht.com/_jj3HiAAtMLU/S9yY75JIWpI/AAAAAAAAAmk/jAyLaqMWeZA/s1024/DSCN0188.JPG)
Title: Re: ReInstalling Hub into SSSA (pic heavy)
Post by: Speeddog on May 01, 2010, 12:46:22 PM

(http://lh3.ggpht.com/_jj3HiAAtMLU/S9yZcoAcqcI/AAAAAAAAAm4/vGRZLv-760Y/s1024/DSCN0191.JPG)

Item on the left is #12 in that diagram.

Center item is the washer that goes under the nut on the *right* side.

Item on the right is goes between the center item (washer) and the wheel itself, on the *right* side.

Title: Re: ReInstalling Hub into SSSA (pic heavy)
Post by: Speeddog on May 01, 2010, 12:48:32 PM
also does anyone know what size bolt i can replace this with? I feel like it cant grab enough threads on the swingarm, I would like something longer. When I had it installed it also rubbed the brake disc.
(http://lh6.ggpht.com/_jj3HiAAtMLU/S9yY7ZbkAtI/AAAAAAAAAmg/kyScc8tE984/s1024/DSCN0187.JPG)

I had the caliper holder pushed flush with the swing arm, yet it still touched. It goes here.
(https://lh5.ggpht.com/_jj3HiAAtMLU/S9yY60I1wwI/AAAAAAAAAmc/Kg_wxHkTFZI/s1024/DSCN0186.JPG)


That part is threaded into the swingarm *before* you install the caliper hanger.
Title: Re: ReInstalling Hub into SSSA (pic heavy)
Post by: Speeddog on May 01, 2010, 12:55:40 PM
Are parts 7 and 8 from the diagram crammed in this old sprocket?
(https://lh5.ggpht.com/_jj3HiAAtMLU/S9yX9zYdJ2I/AAAAAAAAAmE/acDW8po0rOA/s1024/DSCN0183.JPG)

Part #8 is in the old sprocket.

Parts #6 and #7 are on part #5.



The old sprocket and the new supersprox looks like they share the same inner diameter?
(http://lh3.ggpht.com/_jj3HiAAtMLU/S9yY5mvM6qI/AAAAAAAAAmU/IovuDv2ik8Q/s1024/DSCN0184.JPG)

Yes, it has no part #8
Title: Re: ReInstalling Hub into SSSA (pic heavy)
Post by: Airborne on May 01, 2010, 01:16:42 PM
Thanks, I think I'm all straightened out now.

Heman found this thread which is amazing
http://ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=34425.0 (http://ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=34425.0)
Title: Re: ReInstalling Hub into SSSA (pic heavy)
Post by: minnesotamonster on May 02, 2010, 07:29:57 AM
Airborne, did you replace your Cush drives? If so where did you get them?

I just noticed two of mine are backing out and eating at my eccentric.  :-X
Title: Re: ReInstalling Hub into SSSA (pic heavy)
Post by: Airborne on May 02, 2010, 11:48:35 AM
Quote from: minnesotamonster on May 02, 2010, 07:29:57 AM
Airborne, did you replace your Cush drives? If so where did you get them?

I just noticed two of mine are backing out and eating at my eccentric.  :-X


I did not replace them. I inspected them and they look alright. Also this supersprox will not allow the cush drives to back out. My drives only have about 8k miles on them.
Title: Re: ReInstalling Hub into SSSA (pic heavy)
Post by: ellingly on May 03, 2010, 04:44:19 AM
Quote from: Airborne on May 01, 2010, 01:16:42 PM
Thanks, I think I'm all straightened out now.

Heman found this thread which is amazing
http://ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=34425.0 (http://ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=34425.0)
I reckon my next citation report I need to generate for work for a pay rise (I'm a professional scientist), I'm gonna include how many people link to my thread.

I made it pic heavy for a reason. :). Glad to see it's all back together :).

[drink] from downunder now I'm back from looking at rocks in the middle of nowhere :D.
Title: Re: ReInstalling Hub into SSSA (pic heavy)
Post by: Airborne on May 03, 2010, 03:39:42 PM
Quote from: ellingly on May 03, 2010, 04:44:19 AM
I reckon my next citation report I need to generate for work for a pay rise (I'm a professional scientist), I'm gonna include how many people link to my thread.

I made it pic heavy for a reason. :). Glad to see it's all back together :).

[drink] from downunder now I'm back from looking at rocks in the middle of nowhere :D.

Did you ever find out what grease they used in the bearing? I agree that it looks like awesome stuff.
Title: Re: ReInstalling Hub into SSSA (pic heavy)
Post by: ducrider45 on May 03, 2010, 05:35:49 PM
When I rebuilt my hub I just used high temp Castrol grease.
Title: Re: ReInstalling Hub into SSSA (pic heavy)
Post by: ellingly on May 04, 2010, 05:28:20 AM
Quote from: Airborne on May 03, 2010, 03:39:42 PM
Did you ever find out what grease they used in the bearing? I agree that it looks like awesome stuff.
Nah... I'm almost hoping I can con someone in our organic chem section to have a perve at it for me :).
Title: Re: ReInstalling Hub into SSSA (pic heavy)
Post by: He Man on May 04, 2010, 07:57:55 AM
are you talking about the grease for the needle bearings that the axle rides on?
Title: Re: ReInstalling Hub into SSSA (pic heavy)
Post by: DucHead on May 04, 2010, 11:25:42 AM
Quote from: ellingly on May 04, 2010, 05:28:20 AM
Nah... I'm almost hoping I can con someone in our organic chem section to have a perve at it for me :).

[laugh] [laugh] Good luck with that!
Title: Re: ReInstalling Hub into SSSA (pic heavy)
Post by: Airborne on May 04, 2010, 04:29:06 PM
Quote from: He Man on May 04, 2010, 07:57:55 AM
are you talking about the grease for the needle bearings that the axle rides on?

what was that red grease you gave me? mobil 1 synthetic? Im using it on everything. Im not repacking my bearings anyway.

I googled the alvania rl3 grease for kicks and cant find anyone who even sells it.
Title: Re: ReInstalling Hub into SSSA (pic heavy)
Post by: He Man on May 04, 2010, 06:08:02 PM
yea mobil 1 synthetic. i pretty much use that on everything.

http://www.desmotimes.com/product164.htm (http://www.desmotimes.com/product164.htm)

this is suppose to be some high end stuff.  no FHE though.
Title: Re: ReInstalling Hub into SSSA (pic heavy)
Post by: ellingly on May 09, 2010, 08:19:17 PM
Quote from: pompetta on May 04, 2010, 11:25:42 AM
[laugh] [laugh] Good luck with that!
We do have some good organic chem people... and I may have snared an organic chem prize back in the day :P.

I'd more love to know what grease they run in the double-row angular contact bearing (the SKF one, sprocket side). It's pretty awesome... definitely not like any high-temp wheel bearing grease I've seen. Far too runny.
Title: Re: ReInstalling Hub into SSSA (pic heavy)
Post by: He Man on May 09, 2010, 08:27:00 PM
have you tried asking ducati? lol
Title: Re: ReInstalling Hub into SSSA (pic heavy)
Post by: ellingly on May 10, 2010, 12:34:21 AM
Quote from: He Man on May 09, 2010, 08:27:00 PM
have you tried asking ducati? lol
Yeah, reply was... ask SKF.

Asked SKF (boyfriend of a friend of mine works for them as a mechanical engineer) and the answer was... erm, we're not sure. Ask the Spanish factory... and they haven't told me :).