Ducati Monster Forum

well, i spent a small fortune on my S4R lately, had the exhaust headers modified, replaced tyres, oil and filter, chain and sprockets (new rear still on the way!) and a new clutch basket and plates. yep, i've been busy, but i'm a little pissed off! i've almost always used genuine clutch plates but there were no alloy plate kits available so i grabbed a surflex clutch pack, steels and friction plate kit. years ago i used a barnett kit and had major trouble getting the pack height correct and it slipped like a bastard, no such worries with the surflex kit, easy to fit, no worries about it slipping, BUT, with an open clutch cover the pack sticks together after a wash and just will not come apart without stripping the clutch or rolling the bike and dropping it into gear, NOT GOOD! now, the open cover has been on for years so i have a habit of starting the bike and letting it run with the clutch pulled so as to fling any moisture out before parking up, i would have thought this would be enough as the genuine plates never did this but no such luck. anyone else have a similar experience???


paul.

Ahhhhhhhh so another bitten by the bling........





Bitten on the arse that is  ;D [bang] Smile !!!!

don't all jump in at once!

Do the Surflex plates have a "metallized type of friction material??

 If so it could be a corrosion thing binding the drive plates to the driven plates?? ???

Just a thought as the stock friction plates (like from my M1000S) aint metallic.

Whenever I wash my bike I whack the stock cover back on!!  [thumbsup]

strangely, no. the SPS plates i've always used have a heavy metallic mix through them and they never stuck at all, these surflex friction plates look "organic?" for want of a better word, and they were definitely stuck! i can't believe i'm the only one to have this issue.

paul.

Faulty batch? Bike washing product eating away at compound?

My solution was to have the clutch sealed up at the factory and bathed in oil.

Probably not the solution you are after [cheeky]

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You are such a thinker Betty!  ;D

cheeky bugger! [bang]

paul [thumbsup]

OHHHhhhhh some one has dry clutch syndrome! ;D

I've never heard of it...
so.. the surflex pack have alloy frictions?

is it sticking on the fingers or the clutch pack material sticking to the steels?

what basket is it?

it's a new alloy basket, you match the friction plate material to the basket, steel plates would chew an alloy basket up very quickly, it doesn't stick the fingers to the basket, rather the friction material is sticking to the steel plates making the pack as one. when you buy a surflex kit you get the friction plates (aluminium or steel backed) and the steels.
    open covers are a common mod, i wonder if surflex have changed something in their friction material??

paul.

Paul,

Whilst home sick I have been googling this problem you have.

Could this help?

http://www.ducati.ms/forums/archive/index.php/t-65692.html (http://www.ducati.ms/forums/archive/index.php/t-65692.html)

cheers

thanks for that, mate, the issue for him seems to be a wrong pack height, the hydraulics needing a bleed or a lever adjustment issue, mine is all about the stack sticking together, aside from that issue my clutch works perfectly. i spoke to bev at eurotwins today and he's going to talk to ian gowanloch who is the importer and see what he says.
thanks for the help though, much appreciated mate.

paul.

cool as - the other thing I noticed in that article is that he mentioned about slipper and non slipper plates - I guess they can be easily confused?

cheers

Jason

slipper clutches take the same plates, he was saying he uses sintered plates in the slipper clutch on his 999R and organic plates in the slipper clutches on his 900SS and ST2,
oh, how i hate the rich!

paul.
p.s, mine are sintered plates.

cool thanks for clearing that up Paul.

and yeah capitalists!  mind you a mate lives by the moto "he who has the most toys wins!"

I will probably look at a slipper type unit when I go to replace my clutch - eventually. ;D

If you don't wash your bike, plates won't stick  - problem solved.  [thumbsup] I take it you don't ride in the rain either?

weird...
I can only guess that there is/was some sort of packing/storage gunk on the frictions or steels??
maybe give the frictions a light sand on a flat board and clean the steel..   :-\

How about a short ride to get the clutch hot enough to evaporate off all the water?

of course i ride in the rain! if i'm out and it rains i don't stop! or abandon my bike on the side of the road! i just take the car if i need to go anywhere and it's raining. ;D
you're just jealous that on our ride yours looked brown and mine was all nice and shiny [thumbsup]


paul. [coffee]

If you thought it was dirty then, you should see it now  :o   Even I think if looks dirty now.  [laugh] Might have to find someone to clean it for me.  [roll]

how was bevans work by the way? happy with your service and suspension set up?

paul.
p.s, you m ay need to adjust it once the dirt and potato crop are washed away ;D

hmn better not wash it then  [roll]

Very happy with the service.

The suspension changes have made the bike even more fun to ride.   [moto]