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This weekend, gang.   [moto]

I call Ollie's boobies in 1st and 2d for both races.    ;D

on @ noon and 1pm PST, speed

jt re monza: "The high-speed circuit is also pretty special; to hold it flat out in top gear for 7 or 8 seconds is something you don't do anywhere else."   [evil]

Sweet. Can't wait for the races.

FP1

Pos. Rider Team Bike Time
1 Cal Crutchlow Yamaha Sterilgarda Team Yamaha YZF R1 1:43.758
2 Michel Fabrizio Ducati Xerox Team Ducati 1098R 1:43.844
3 Jonathan Rea HANNspree Ten Kate Honda Honda CBR1000RR 1:44.004
4 Leon Haslam Team Suzuki Alstare Suzuki GSX-R1000 1:44.043
5 James Toseland Yamaha Sterilgarda Team Yamaha YZF R1 1:44.190
6 Max Biaggi Aprilia Racing Aprilia RSV4 1000 1:44.259
7 Troy Corser BMW Motorrad Motorsport BMW S1000 RR 1:44.416
8 Leon Camier Aprilia Racing Aprilia RSV4 1000 1:44.489
9 Ruben Xaus BMW Motorrad Motorsport BMW S1000 RR 1:44.547
10 Max Neukirchner HANNspree Ten Kate Honda Honda CBR1000RR 1:44.597
11 Tom Sykes Kawasaki World Superbike Racing Team Kawasaki ZX 10R 1:44.769
12 Noriyuki Haga Ducati Xerox Team Ducati 1098R 1:44.951
13 Jakub Smrz Borciani-Guandalini Racing Team Ducati 1098R 1:45.095
14 Lorenzo Lanzi   Ducati 1098R 1:45.206
15 Carlos Checa Althea Racing Ducati 1098R 1:45.399


Roger Hayden, 22nd, 1:46.812.

Wow...a factory Duc in the top 5!!  :P

The wrong one, though  ;D

...what happened here last year?

Wrong duc. 

Yeah, yeah, it's Fab's track.  Of course, I'd still rather see Haga on the top step.

Q1

1 35 C. CRUTCHLOW GBR Yamaha Sterilgarda Team Yamaha YZF R1 1'44.577 19 198,870 318,3
2 65 J. REA GBR HANNspree Ten Kate Honda Honda CBR1000RR 1'44.789 0.212 0.212 17 198,467 319,4
3 84 M. FABRIZIO ITA Ducati Xerox Team Ducati 1098R 1'45.134 0.557 0.345 20 197,816 309,2
4 11 T. CORSER AUS BMW Motorrad Motorsport BMW S1000 RR 1'45.234 0.657 0.100 17 197,628 320,4
5 91 L. HASLAM GBR Team Suzuki Alstare Suzuki GSX-R1000 1'45.303 0.726 0.069 18 197,499 317,3
6 111 R. XAUS ESP BMW Motorrad Motorsport BMW S1000 RR 1'45.542 0.965 0.239 23 197,051 309,2
7 3 M. BIAGGI ITA Aprilia Alitalia Racing Aprilia RSV4 Factory 1'45.592 1.015 0.050 22 196,958 313,2
8 96 J. SMRZ CZE Team PATA B&G Racing Ducati 1098R 1'45.603 1.026 0.011 16 196,938 314,2
9 52 J. TOSELAND GBR Yamaha Sterilgarda Team Yamaha YZF R1 1'46.019 1.442 0.416 23 196,165 318,3
10 99 L. SCASSA ITA Supersonic Racing Team Ducati 1098R 1'46.111 1.534 0.092 17 195,995 311,2
11 66 T. SYKES GBR Kawasaki Racing Team Kawasaki ZX 10R 1'46.170 1.593 0.059 20 195,886 312,2
12 2 L. CAMIER GBR Aprilia Alitalia Racing Aprilia RSV4 Factory 1'46.216 1.639 0.046 17 195,801 319,4
13 76 M. NEUKIRCHNER GER HANNspree Ten Kate Honda Honda CBR1000RR 1'46.402 1.825 0.186 16 195,459 313,2
14 57 L. LANZI ITA DFX Corse Ducati 1098R 1'46.413 1.836 0.011 15 195,439 311,2
15 41 N. HAGA JPN Ducati Xerox Team Ducati 1098R 1'46.451 1.874 0.038 19 195,369 312,2
16 50 S. GUINTOLI FRA Team Suzuki Alstare Suzuki GSX-R1000 1'46.588 2.011 0.137 23 195,118 310,2
17 7 C. CHECA ESP Althea Racing Ducati 1098R 1'46.756 2.179 0.168 15 194,811 305,3
18 67 S. BYRNE GBR Althea Racing Ducati 1098R 1'47.466 2.889 0.710 14 193,524 304,4
19 71 D. SAKAI JPN Yoshimura Suzuki Racing Team Suzuki GSX-R1000 1'47.922 3.345 0.456 11 192,706 307,3
20 15 M. BAIOCCO ITA Team Pedercini Kawasaki ZX 10R 1'48.041 3.464 0.119 20 192,494 304,4
21 77 C. VERMEULEN AUS Kawasaki Racing Team Kawasaki ZX 10R 1'48.191 3.614 0.150 19 192,227 312,2
22 23 B. PARKES AUS ECHO CRS Honda Honda CBR1000RR 1'48.254 3.677 0.063 17 192,115 301,5
23 95 R. HAYDEN USA Team Pedercini Kawasaki ZX 10R 1'49.217 4.640 0.963 19 190,421 303,4
24 31 V. IANNUZZO ITA S.C.I. Honda Garvie Image Honda CBR1000RR 1'49.958 5.381 0.741 13 189,138 303,4

oh me too, no question.

I'm pretty sure every single other ducati corse employee felt that way about monza last year, also.

hehhehee.

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4049/4586633493_c562514c1d_b.jpg)

OnTheThrottle's pre-Monza skype coverage:

http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/6748133 (http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/6748133)

did they cut out all the dead air?  the connetion dropped 3 or 4 times during the chat.

It dropped a coupla times (I'm through all of it yet), but they got them back w/in 30 seconds or so.  So I don't know if they cuts parts out or not.  It's a LONG interview. 

BTW, do you know who Dave Williams is?  How does he get all these people to talk to him for as long and as regularly as they do? 

 

nope, they didn't


afaik, he's just OTT-dave.  there must be some other history there, but a while back i made a comment to him @ mladin's treatment of nicky hayden in 2002 and he replied something like "i wasn't paying attention back then".  so he's not old school racing guy.

OTT has been around for several years.  somewhat in 2007, but esp in 2008/2009 he really came into his own by covering the AMA when basically no one else was.  LOTS of goodwill from the paddock.

how that translated to greene & martin i don't know.  unless it's as simple as he hooked up with them @ miller 3 years ago.  1 hotel bar drinkathon would have done the trick, i'm sure.

the ott/worldsbk hookup happened last year...

prior to that mainly followed wera racers/racing with some minor ama paddock stuff with those racers.

a few seasons ago, they started doing the ama post-race interviews and it kinda grew from there.

they got a LOT of visibility when the ama was doing week-delayed race broadcasts and ott was the only source for same-day coverage.

i may be wrong, but i think dave (williams) has/had another job with one of the ama teams.

Q2

Pos No. Rider Bike Time Diff
1 84 M. Fabrizio Ducati 1098R 1'43.737   
2 65 J. Rea Honda CBR1000RR 1'44.098 0.361
3 3 M. Biaggi Aprilia RSV4 Factory 1'44.314 0.577
4 2 L. Camier Aprilia RSV4 Factory 1'44.327 0.590
5 96 J. Smrz Ducati 1098R 1'44.452 0.715
6 91 L. Haslam Suzuki GSX-R1000 1'44.537 0.800
7 35 C. Crutchlow Yamaha YZF R1 1'44.577 0.840
8 99 L. Scassa Ducati 1098R 1'44.723 0.986
9 11 T. Corser BMW S1000 RR 1'44.763 1.026
10 76 M. Neukirchner Honda CBR1000RR 1'44.831 1.094
11 52 J. Toseland Yamaha YZF R1 1'44.912 1.175
12 41 N. Haga Ducati 1098R 1'45.022 1.285
13 50 S. Guintoli Suzuki GSX-R1000 1'45.063 1.326
14 67 S. Byrne Ducati 1098R 1'45.306 1.569
15 111 R. Xaus BMW S1000 RR 1'45.388 1.651
16 66 T. Sykes Kawasaki ZX 10R 1'45.450 1.713
17 57 L. Lanzi Ducati 1098R 1'45.511 1.774
18 77 C. Vermeulen Kawasaki ZX 10R 1'45.796 2.059
19 7 C. Checa Ducati 1098R 1'45.864 2.127
20 15 M. Baiocco Kawasaki ZX 10R 1'46.453 2.716
Out of Superpole
21 71 D. Sakai Suzuki GSX-R1000 1'46.679 2.942
22 95 R. Hayden Kawasaki ZX 10R 1'46.771 3.034
23 31 V. Iannuzzo Honda CBR1000RR 1'46.912 3.175
24 23 B. Parkes Honda CBR1000RR 1'46.914 3.177

Superpole Results

Pos No. Rider Bike Time Diff
1 3 M. Biaggi Aprilia RSV4 Factory 1'42.121   
2 35 C. Crutchlow Yamaha YZF R1 1'42.154 0.033
3 84 M. Fabrizio Ducati 1098R 1'42.499 0.378
4 65 J. Rea Honda CBR1000RR 1'42.566 0.445
5 91 L. Haslam Suzuki GSX-R1000 1'42.633 0.512
6 111 R. Xaus BMW S1000 RR 1'42.725 0.604
7 52 J. Toseland Yamaha YZF R1 1'42.789 0.668
8 66 T. Sykes Kawasaki ZX 10R 1'43.111 0.990
Out after Superpole 2
9 76 M. Neukirchner Honda CBR1000RR 1'43.410 1.155
10 99 L. Scassa Ducati 1098R 1'43.431 1.176
11 7 C. Checa Ducati 1098R 1'43.506 1.251
12 11 T. Corser BMW S1000 RR 1'43.508 1.253
13 2 L. Camier Aprilia RSV4 Factory 1'43.530 1.275
14 50 S. Guintoli Suzuki GSX-R1000 1'43.691 1.436
15 67 S. Byrne Ducati 1098R 1'43.813 1.558
16 41 N. Haga Ducati 1098R 1'43.957 1.702
Out after Superpole 1
17 96 J. Smrz Ducati 1098R 1'44.291 1.543
18 77 C. Vermeulen Kawasaki ZX 10R 1'44.802 2.054
19 57 L. Lanzi Ducati 1098R 1'44.878 2.130
20 15 M. Baiocco Kawasaki ZX 10R 1'46.180 3.432
Out of Superpole
21 71 D. Sakai Suzuki GSX-R1000 1'46.679 2.942
22 95 R. Hayden Kawasaki ZX 10R 1'46.771 3.034
23 31 V. Iannuzzo Honda CBR1000RR 1'46.912 3.175
24 23 B. Parkes Honda CBR1000RR 1'46.914 3.177

Damn...Haga is having a bad year.  :-[

Not as bad as Mr Hayden. I bet Roger wishes he'd stayed home this year.

In the OTT interview, the WSBK announcers said that RLH would be in the top ten if he was on the Yamaha.   And that the best Rossi could do on the Pedercini bike would have been 10th.   Ouch.  Granted, they were drunk and it was 2 in the morning, but they seemed to have faith his abilities and none in the performance of his bike.  I hope he stays in WSBK and has a decent ride next year.

Interestingly, this year it seems like more and more teams are using both of their qualifiers to get into Superpole 1 rather than saving them.

BTW, Biaggi did 205 mph (330 kph) down the front straight!?!?  :o   Frack me. 

xaus?!

and yeah, rough for pork chop.  but he has the right attitude about it and keeps improving each weekend.  really hope he can get on a better package for next year.

biaggi's top speed is a new wsbk record, btw

Good races...

Biaggi doubled easily.

The changes to the chicane haven't eliminated the first corner debacles. :-\

Aprilia rsv4 is sick  [bow_down]

Haga got beat by a Kawi?  WTF?

2...0...5....... on a motorcycle. That Aprilia is seriously fast.

that factory bikes aren't that bad... hacking was in the mix at miller last year, remember?

But they're green.  And they're Kawis.  And Haga's on a Duc.  Arrrghh!   Black is white.  Up is down.  The world is ending.   [laugh]

Man, Race 2 was a mess.  I was soooo rooting for JT and he got just obliterated.  Report is a mild concussion.  I was also rooting for Cal and he went splat.  I'm glad that crash looked gentle.  Between last year and this year, Monza's a bit of feast or famine for those factory Yammies, eh?

I love how in the post-race interviews Haslam was pretending it was his wrist that took the brunt of that near highside, when we all know he's singing a coupla octaves higher.

Yay! RLH got in the points, even if only by attrition.   [thumbsup]

I really want others to catch up in the points.  Haslam and Biaggi are starting to gap the others in the championship.

A damned shame for Cal Crutchlow. Still the best bike racing for my money though.

the way cal went down, vs what could have happened, was really lucky.  and while the crash was a total bummer, it did put the camera on his GF for a moment. =)

major bummer for jt.  that was an ugly moment.

This maybe a stupid question, but why don't they fit brake lever covers? The weight penalty versus bad wrecks has got be a decent trade off.

Anyone, Derby? ;D

I read somewhere--dunno where--that Biaggi's bike kicked up a rock that pierced his oil cooler.  That's just make the beast with two backsed up luck.   Edit:  here's a story on it -- http://www.crash.net/world+superbikes/news/159586/1/kicked_up_stones_ruin_crutchlows_day.html (http://www.crash.net/world+superbikes/news/159586/1/kicked_up_stones_ruin_crutchlows_day.html)

Brake lever covers?  Like handguards?  Iff the top of my head, it seems like that'd lead do more hand injuries as people's hand get trapped when they crash.  It would be pretty hard to hold the bars as one would like too.    

However, Crutchlow's weekend would end in the gravel trap on lap 13 when he spun on his own oil, which had begun leaking from a hole caused by stones being kicked up the Aprilia ahead.

I win!   [laugh]

iirc, yates put bark busters on his bike in 2002 and tech wouldn't allow 'em.

that was ama superbike, of course... not sure if anybody has ever tried in worldsbk.

ohh.. duh.  i was misreading you.  you were correct.  carry on.

;)

Skeptics may suspect a problem from race 1 that didn't get or couldn't be fixed:

Cal Crutchlow: “I felt like I put together a solid race, but we never got the best of starts again, the bike is hard to get off the line, but all credit to Yamaha, we came to their home round and second and third for me and James is a strong result. We knew we would struggle a bit for speed, but to be honest I struggled throughout with gear shifting, I had a leaky engine oil cover. I was struggling to change gear up the box, but I feel I rode well.”

Tons of pictures from Monza:  http://www.rideontwo.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2681&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0 (http://www.rideontwo.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2681&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0)

I especially like page 3 of the thread, right in the middle.  Trust me, it'll be worth the click.   [evil] [thumbsup]

wow, that's some impressive side-boob...

 :o

They are hangin' pretty low now.

Imagine when she is 50. You could probably hide a tin of cat food under each one.

That's what surgeons are for  ;D

Awesome pics. I love the ski slopes as well.  [evil]