Ducati Monster Forum

I want to stay Ducati on my next bike. But all the current models are ugly. I hate the headlight. 796 is kinda sharp, but not a lot of bang for the buck. Some I'm leaning towards a used Super Duke R or an Aprilia SVX 5.5 or should I wait till next year to see what comes out? Any word on the street?

I haven't heard anything but I doubt any all new models will be released next year that aren't based on the current line up.

really? no like the 848 light?

or you mean just nekkids?

Is there a reason you're not considering a newer S*R?

I'm still in love with Monsters, but there are a few nice KTMs  8)  Super Duke R is one of them.

Yeah, I feel the same...at least for the Monster line.
But you mentioned two super motos here, and I think the Hyper is a pretty cool bike, half racer half dirt bike.
Can you check out the Moto Morini stuff where you live ?
I would totally get their scrambler now when I was in the game for new wheels.
(http://mcblog.eu/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/moto_morini_scrambler_2009_12.jpg)

I doubt much is going to change for 2011...especially in the looks of the Monster/SF line-up.

your price range must be above mine, because i am loving  a lot of stuff in the ducati line up this year
and from the last couple years

but yes, the superduke is one helluva bike

wishlist includes
new multi,
the S*Rs
the hypers
the sport classics
and yes even the m1100

(http://pictures.topspeed.com/IMG/crop/200911/ducati-multistrada-1-13_460x0w.jpg)
(http://www.motorcycle-usa.com/photogallerys/2007_Ducati_Sport_1000_5.jpg)
see, hes SMILING!

Love the 848, but naked is what flips my switches.

I totally agree the new nakeds just don't seem to have that badassness or meaness or rawness or whatever you call it that the older monsters have.  The new ones come of as looking cheap or a knockoff instead of a real naked bike.

I don't dislike the new monsters they just don't speak to me like the older ones do.

for me, I think it is just a will to have a bit more power and just as much simplicity...so if I should be stepping away from my Gran Canyon, I would be looking at the KTM 990 SM-T in a heartbeat...I test rode it and it is the perfect replacement for me.....now I just need to find the rampant excess of cash to pay for it!

I was feeling like the OP, still loving my S2R, but sad I didn't see anything in Ducati's line-up I really wanted next.
But then I just picked up one of these, and now I will remain with Ducati for some time now! (sorry for crappy garage pics, raining for days in Chicago).
Pictures truly do not do the Hyper justice (like the SF), and if you grew up on dirt bikes, prepare to pull a face muscle from constant grinning!
YMMV ;- )
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4026/4604376983_daca4ac8bc_o.jpg)
(http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1013/4604990892_8aabbe815e_o.jpg)
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3411/4604991024_a81c85e317_o.jpg)
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3314/4605012244_a3bcfb8128_o.jpg)

The Monster concept was a one shot deal...it is impossible to improve upon perfection of concept and execution

it had a good run...but market pressure forces companies to compete against their imitators

Now it is all about "Naked Bikes" as a class of machines

You can put an SF next to a 1990's Monster and see that one of them has a lot of the hyperflash and drama...

the other one has the soul

you can stick an old M900 among a bunch of current-issue naked bikes...I know which one will stand out and catch my eye and my initial interest

Changing the subject slightly away from Monsters and Hypers...

I'd like to see Ducati offer a Multistrada 796 (or 1000 S2R1K motor) without all of the electronic riding aids.  Simple, basic, air cooled.   I know the previous "small" 'strada didnt sell too well (or at all here?), but as much as Ilike the MS1100, it's way too much "too much" for me.

Naked bike? Have you thought about  buell 1125  [evil]

I completely agree.  I have had several people not believe me when I tell them that my bike is an '01.  They assume that it is much newer.

Meets your needs...besides the air-cooled part.  ;D

(http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n258/JJGeo/IMG_1267.jpg)

There's an awesome looking one for sale in the classifieds for a GREAT price!!!!!   ;D

You might want to check out the new Kawasaki Z1000.  It's a little bit too dressed up for a naked for my tastes (why the designers feel they must add plastic to a "naked" bike, and also black out the motor, I don't know, but in my opinion it's detrimental to the looks) but it is supposed to be a great bike - http://kawasaki.com/Products/Product-Specifications.aspx?scid=6&id=432 (http://kawasaki.com/Products/Product-Specifications.aspx?scid=6&id=432)

I think the original monster look is the bee's knees as goes naked bikes.

Ducati along with other manufactures such as BMW have resorted to keeping up with the Jones.  They make flashy over powered bikes to compete against the other manufacturers.  Bikes that must sell now!  Slowly these manufacturers are pulling away from what made them what they are.  Don't get me wrong there are many benefits to this.  Ducati's reliability has greatly increased.  BMW's don't weigh 1,200 lbs anymore. 

One thing you guys are right about, the new bikes lack soul.  I tend to think this may have something to do with how the bikes were designed.  The Monster, 916, Super Sport and even the ST were probably designed with pencil and paper, small clay models and using existing frames with new parts to make a new bike. 

You can tell in the model line when the designers began using computers.  The design programs have opened a whole new world of creativity to the designer but programs have added an additional filter between the designer and the final product. 

The new models lack the character a hand made product would normally have.

Do you have $30K to spend on a bike  [evil]

I love these;

(http://www.engmore.com/6_images_files/61_roadster_files/black/big_black04.jpg)

Check out the down draft intake on what is typically the tank, and the seat cowl fuel filler.  Sweet!

Dayum that Wakan is freaking sexy!!!!

True, but so does a V-Strom 1000!   ;D

A few weeks ago I followed a fellow on one of those KTMs through a local canyon...just a moderate commuter pace.  When he pulled over at a look-out, I took the opportunity tot check the bike out and talk to him about it.  Very nice bike, no doubt about it (and yes, a few notches above the Strom in the all important coolness factor).

I like how you phrased that.  I think the Kawa Z1000 is a perfect example of an overly designed product, full of computer degenerated curves and lines of exaggeration.   I much prefer the clean lines and simplicity of the "classic" monster.

That's a Sportster style engine...that is what Buell should have become!!!!!!!!

Nice seat !     [roll]

Otherwise a great looking machine.

Dolph      :)

I believe that is the fuel tank under the seat;

(http://www.engmore.com/6_images_files/61_roadster_files/black/big_black03.jpg)

Down draft intake with butterfly valves;

(http://www.engmore.com/6_images_files/61_roadster_files/black/big_black05.jpg)

fixed it for you!!!

Considering buying a 07' S4R and continuing my build plans for the old S4. Taking it to the extreme 10 fold.
Kevlar tank, Ohlin's suspension, two huge PIAA HID rally lights

sounds like that african rhino skinned concept one from like a year or so ago....

Nope. The naked naked Duc concept. Very mechanical in appearance.
BST wheels, 4 piston calipers, light rotors. Light and naked as a jaybird. 

That thing is STUPID!!   :o   I would rock it in and instant!   [thumbsup]

I like everything about the Wakan except the engine  :P

Put something in there with gear/belt/chain driven overhead cams and you'd have a sweet bike  [wine]

+1
It seems like that is a normal 100 CI S & S motor.
Sweet bike though

Back to the current subject;

That new Aprilia RSV4 is sweet. So is the new KTM 1190 RC8
Saw both at the local dealer.

WHAT?  What dealer are you talking about?

(http://www.paddockreport.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/a_aprilia-rsv4_2009.jpg)
(http://www.roadracerx.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/BMW-S1000R.jpg)

IMHO it looks like the Aprilia & BMW both hired Japanese designers to design their new bikes. [bang]

Thanks, but I knew what bikes he was talking about.  Was more asking what dealer he was talking about as he (up until recently) was on the big island.

Gotta say i agree.
the current line up does nothing for me except for the Hypermotard. I wouldn't have one instead of my monster tho it would be an aswell as.

I like the sport classic range. The GT is very nice.

At this years Scottish bike show Ducati didnt have any of the sport classics on their stand so i assumed they had stopped making them.

This!!

I be lovin' my SC!   [thumbsup]

Yeah, I know what you mean...the M900 is just so pretty, I just like to go in the garage and look at it!



you can stick an old M900 among a bunch of current-issue naked bikes...I know which one will stand out and catch my eye and my initial interest
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I moved to the San Francisco area about three months ago.

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I agree whole-heartedly...

New monsters do NOTHING for me compared to the new line up..... Not a huge fan of the newer SBK's either, although theyre nice..


Search for a well cared for used machine is what i'd suggest...


Monster- m900,S2R1K,S4RS- [thumbsup]
SBK- 916/996/998.....and the MV's  [thumbsup]

BUT....

I do dig the Hyper...

 

How ya liking all the bike shops and roads?

Well, it is 55 degrees and foggy right now. Had to buy all new gear. My vented/perforated stuff was not cutting it. Killer roads though. It is strange to ride without sweating like hell.

I just sent you a PM about your move

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I agree that the lines of those bikes are not beautiful. But that Aprilia is just sick

EAT IT!! 

I'll be on my way to DC in two weeks.   ;D

Simply Fantastic. We are really glad to have moved here. Next up; TRACK DAY. (Well as soon as I recover from the insane expense of moving from HI) [bang]

So....riding in circles on a small island-is it like Nascar but on bikes?  :-*


Which of the many tracks are you picking?  ;D

Nah, down here mainly turn right.

There were some decent twisties on the Big Island, but the island is the size of Connecticut and you had to ride a long way to get to them.

There a definitely a lot more great spots here but the quality of the road surface was WAAAAYYY better in Hawaii. Plus with Hawaii being closer to the equator the turns felt tighter. (I wonder if any will buy that) :P

Which track? No clue yet. I probably will do some instruction first. I'm hopin' to make it down to your place for a few hours for DIMBY.

You're kidding right?  The roads here on Oahu are in ridiculously poor shape.

 [thumbsup] ;D

Yep. Oahu was bad. Big Island was better.

Here is just unbelievable. Every road I've been on is BAD! Patches over patches over patches, Bumps, dips, potholes, things that don't even have names yet. I'm tellin' you it is shockingly bad.  I can only assume it is because the state is destitute.

But I still really dig it here.

zoso, that Hyper kicks ass.

For me the new 1198 and 848 look to much like Jap bikes.  The old monsters rule and the new ones will change IMO, when I don't know.  The big BUT here for me is how they are introducing a half-Tard at only 2K less....no my cup of tea but I do and will buy the full-Tard.  The streetfighter is sexy but my S4R is too still the classic look I want and the insurance, God the insurance. 

My next bike may very well be the new Multi and a Sport Classic but the S4R will NEVER leave the garage, no way no how.

Frankly I think Ducati has lots a bit of it's edge on the superbike field.  The RSV looks bad ass and the prettiest of the bunch for me that is.

Ahem...

(http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z53/b_upton/Moto/pictures-mv-agusta-f4-1000-senna-bi.jpg)

And Massimo still used clay when he did this ;D

Not to mention consulting with Italy's most respected manufacturer of pipe organs, to learn about the timbre and harmonics that different shapes and sizes of tubes can impart onto the bike's exhaust system.   [thumbsup]

If we lined it up next to a bunch of the other I4's including the S1000RR and started blipping throttles could you tell the difference?

Who knows.  Just the fact that he did it is cool in my books. 

Uhm.
Yes.
Please.
Now, please.

Just because I am such a fan of the unobtainable;
What are they asking for these little rockets?

very nice and probably a head-to-head competition for me but after going over the RSV with a fine tooth comb I'm thinking that it wins - EXCEPTION being the exhaust where the Agusta has everyone beat.

Not any longer.  Have you seen the 4 square exhaust outlets on the latest :P.
(http://www.mvagusta.net/images/news/168_thumb.jpg)

I did and still like it but not as much as the old.

It's a beautiful bike.  But I get the feeling he reached into his bag of old tricks.  The lines look so familiar.  916 with a few added new parts?