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Title: Sneaky Coppers
Post by: FIFO on May 17, 2010, 09:31:35 PM

This is was told could be on the Great ocean road.
You Mexicans might be able to confirm this, or some one might recognize the road.
The last bike sounds and looks like a monster with hi rise pipes
they didn't clock him. [thumbsup]
 And i thought your gonna need more than the colour of the bike to fine the person :-\
Plus this is on the interweb it could be fake [evil]

bikes_and_cops.MPG (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G54Bus6bBhk#lq-lq2-hq-vhq)



Title: Re: Sneaky Coppers
Post by: mattyvas on May 17, 2010, 10:08:48 PM
very very sneaky.
sure the riders are not doing the right thing, but who hasn't done that.
to be so hidden is not playing very fair really.


Title: Re: Sneaky Coppers
Post by: craigo on May 17, 2010, 10:19:20 PM
f**kin weasels. They sit on the spot where it is probably safest to overtake on a road that probably was a hundred zone with  broken lines for years till the Vic state government started running low on funds. Mark Webber is right, nanny state. 


[more angry, expletive filled typing removed in the interests of anyone reading this from work]


Title: Re: Sneaky Coppers
Post by: loony888 on May 17, 2010, 10:41:47 PM
no surprise really. see, they have no friends, so they only socialise with each other and inevitably they cook up sneaky shit like that at traffic branch BBQ's.


paul


Title: Re: Sneaky Coppers
Post by: bikeless on May 17, 2010, 11:37:04 PM
when i see shit like that im glad i sold my bike as i woudnt have a licence long over here thats the norm  [bang]


Title: Re: Sneaky Coppers
Post by: Mr.S2R on May 18, 2010, 12:44:57 AM
haha love the sound of disappointment when the Monster goes past - NOTHING!! Read and weep boys!! [leo]



Title: Re: Sneaky Coppers
Post by: Dannog on May 18, 2010, 01:45:22 AM
at the end there they say someone was waving at them....nice to know that you can be lucky sometimes with someone giving up their position.


Title: Re: Sneaky Coppers
Post by: mostro900 on May 18, 2010, 03:03:42 AM
looks legit enough. certainly wouldn't surprise anyone here would it ?!

f'ers!


Title: Re: Sneaky Coppers
Post by: CairnsDuc on May 18, 2010, 12:10:50 PM
I will say I do support one thing, overtaking on Mountain ranges can be dangerous.
We have a number of riders on the various ranges and roads around Cairns killed because
of some dodgy and stupid passes in some pretty dumb areas. and some of these guys
are getting very close to the next corner before they pull in from the other lane. But the
Camera Angle could be making look worse than it really is.

Now I don't know this road, so I will reserve my judgment in this case, and I'll be the first to admit
that I have passed on Double lines on the Gillies range, but I know that road and I only pass on
decent long straights no where near a corner. and that was only in the early hours of the morning
when I would only see a couple of cars along the whole road (So seeing Headlights coming the other
way would give away the other cars approach) and Never in daylight hours.

And people crossing the lines in Cairns/Tablelands Ranges/Roads is frightening! Doesn't seem to matter
if it is on a Moped, Bike, Car or Semi, People up here treat the lines as a suggested path only. When I went near
a blind corner on any range up here I made sure to be on the outside of the corner (Meaning as far away
from the oncoming traffic) I have lost count how many times that has saved my life or from serious injury.
Maybe it's not as bad in Vic as it is up here in Cairns.

And the Speed gun is just the swift boot to the balls! (And quite frankly how is it saving lives?)
Revenue raising at it's finest!


Title: Re: Sneaky Coppers
Post by: vossy on May 18, 2010, 01:19:28 PM
the speed gun is no different really to a Bank robber holding up a bank.

Easy money.

What Loony said is true. I have a couple of cop friends who say that shit goes on all the time.


Title: Re: Sneaky Coppers
Post by: Monstar_100 on May 18, 2010, 02:58:54 PM
Unfortunatly it is happening in NSW.

A friend of mine was doing a road test for a magazine on the MV Augusta when he was over the mountains...

Fined for 5km over, overtake over unbroken lines...

(overtaking a caravan)


Title: Re: Sneaky Coppers
Post by: vossy on May 18, 2010, 03:07:38 PM
 You can be booked for overtaking on unbroken lines,  ( I accept that) ,but can you get done for overtaking a caravan on broken lines if you go over the speed limit just to get passed?


Title: Re: Sneaky Coppers
Post by: brimo on May 18, 2010, 03:29:15 PM
You can be booked for overtaking on unbroken lines,  ( I accept that) ,but can you get done for overtaking a caravan on broken lines if you go over the speed limit just to get passed?
Yes of course, you've gone over the speed limit, and you deserve everything the state can do to you, cos of your reckless and irresponsible behaviour.


Title: Re: Sneaky Coppers
Post by: vossy on May 18, 2010, 04:47:27 PM
the reason I said that, is because I over took a slow truck the other day and as I popped out behind him and overtook a copper was pointing his money maker at me and never pulled me over. (I was doing just over 90 in a 80 zone.)
I did however slow down to 80 once I passed.

Maybe it depends on the [leo]


Title: Re: Sneaky Coppers
Post by: White Lion on May 18, 2010, 10:32:01 PM
I'm even going to say, that's low!

They grabbed both of those bikes prior or during to an overtaking move. Neither was doing ridiculous speeds, just enjoying the road.

I know last week that Sutherland Highway did an operation in the RNP and got 8 guys doing over 45km/h(It was a media release). I was in there on saturday afternoon, and came across an Aston, two Evos and a Ducati. All of them were driving 'well', but none of them were, in my mind driving dangerously. I'm of the opinion that if you shut down every single known "drivers road", then more shananigans will occur on "every day roads". It's shit policing at it's finest.
 [moto]


Title: Re: Sneaky Coppers
Post by: mattyvas on May 18, 2010, 11:58:03 PM
Yeah couldn't agree more. The more people's fav roads are targeted the great the chance of riders/drivers
doing sillier things on any sort of road anywhere. While I don't agree with knee down scraping on public roads
and people riding/driving at crazy speeds like an un-named rider on a recent trip up North West who was proud
to tell us he clocked speeds of 250-270kph  [bang]

Crazy on public roads really, but targeting riders who seem to be doing a controlled overtake at only a slightly raised
pace. Policing policies are often out of touch with what the Force on the ground like to enforce.
   


Title: Re: Sneaky Coppers
Post by: CairnsDuc on May 19, 2010, 11:09:41 AM
I agree with you Mattyvas, to a point.

They overtook on an unbroken line (As I have said before, I'm no angel I've done it myself)
But if Motorcycle riders are given leeway to cross the unbroken line, then we will have cars trying it on
then Trucks, tractors, etc
It will be a free for all, then someone will get killed or badly injured, then there will be an outcry of
why wasn't something done, Won't somebody think of the Children, Etc.

Maybe people crossing the unbroken lines is not so bad in Vic and NSW as it is up here in Cairns (and greater Region)
but is shockingly bad up here, Some of the Semi drivers up here would scare the Piss out of you!!!  :o
but because the Cops focus on the whole speed issue, it get's ignored for
the sake of raising more Cash. and it will take a massive tragic accident to force people to focus on it again,
but as we all know the accident would be blamed on excess speed, and within a couple of days people will be
back to there old habits and driving however they want on the mountain ranges.

I for one would cop it on the chin if I got got caught doing it, I knew I did the wrong thing, I wouldn't like it!
but would would pay the fine and move on.

But I have to say, ok, ping em for crossing the lines, that's one thing, but then the Speeding fine on top of that
is just going to far.


Title: Re: Sneaky Coppers
Post by: Betty on May 19, 2010, 01:19:13 PM
CD, I understand and agree.

The problem we have been facing is not only the lowering of speed limits (makes it easier to cut back on maintenance too) but also the changing of broken lines to unbroken lines.

For example a road may have had a limit of 80km/h previously and broken lines ... now the limt is 60 and the lines are unbroken. Brings a whole new meaning to the 'triple bottom line':
. less costs for maintenance
. increased revenue from 'speeding' while travelling at speeds previously deemed safe
. increased revenue from overtaking on unbroken lines where previously it was deemed to be safe


Title: Re: Sneaky Coppers
Post by: Mr.S2R on May 20, 2010, 12:02:15 AM
They overtook on an unbroken line
odd question and probably off topic but if you overtake on the unbroken line, dont you have to cross over the line for it to be an offence?  Say the car was pulling to the left to let you past, that is not an offence?

Note: I do realise both bikes crossed the line that were reported....but if you had enough room to sneak past....

oh and at least there were indicators used!


Title: Re: Sneaky Coppers
Post by: monstermick58 on May 20, 2010, 12:19:06 AM
odd question and probably off topic but if you overtake on the unbroken line, dont you have to cross over the line for it to be an offence?  Say the car was pulling to the left to let you past, that is not an offence?

Note: I do realise both bikes crossed the line that were reported....but if you had enough room to sneak past....

oh and at least there were indicators used!

Not an ex-spurt by any means, but I believe its an offence to share the same lane (side by side) or some thing like that.









                                        Mmick


Title: Re: Sneaky Coppers
Post by: dragonworld. on May 20, 2010, 12:48:14 AM
Supposedly illegal, but the Plod motorbicyclists do it!! [roll]

"Not do as I do" an all that crap maybe??  [moto] :o


Title: Re: Sneaky Coppers
Post by: bikeless on May 20, 2010, 02:55:29 AM
i thought the double white lines were for bikes , dont get all emotional but every body who rides bikes breaks the law on most occasion even accelerating up to the prescribed speed limit quickly is breaking the law its just how much you break the law and cd if you get a bike here you will have too learn  a how too ride again cause you are aloud to cross the to the other side with all the shit and rod kill on the road you have too make your mind up ride through the shit or go round most here choose to go around and the plods agree cheers bazz 


Title: Re: Sneaky Coppers
Post by: Betty on May 20, 2010, 10:46:59 AM
Not an ex-spurt by any means, but I believe its an offence to share the same lane (side by side) or some thing like that.

Unless you are on a pushbike ... but 3 or 4 abreast (as can be common on the old road) is not legal.


Title: Re: Sneaky Coppers
Post by: Betty on May 20, 2010, 11:23:01 AM
with all the shit and rod kill on the road you have too make your mind up ride through the shit or go round most here choose to go around and the plods agree cheers bazz 

Ahh the marsupial slalom ... remember it well.

But to tie together Tassie roads and unbroken/broken lines ... it was quite the revelation riding down there. The unbroken lines (if there are any lines at all) start in the corner when you can look through and see if there is any oncoming traffic and act accordingly.

If the coast is clear and you are being frustrated by slow moving traffic it is infuriating to be held back by and unbroken line ... and these are the kinds of things that make people careless/reckless.

But this would also mean that the verges need to be well maintained, something else which effects the bottom line.


Title: Re: Sneaky Coppers
Post by: CairnsDuc on May 20, 2010, 07:18:45 PM
i thought the double white lines were for bikes , dont get all emotional but every body who rides bikes breaks the law on most occasion even accelerating up to the prescribed speed limit quickly is breaking the law its just how much you break the law and cd if you get a bike here you will have too learn  a how too ride again cause you are aloud to cross the to the other side with all the shit and rod kill on the road you have too make your mind up ride through the shit or go round most here choose to go around and the plods agree cheers bazz 

I'm not against crossing the Double lines on selected occasions, I have done it on more than 1 occasion  [thumbsup]
It's just a sad state of affairs when a simple run up a mountain range could earn you a loss of license for
only minor indiscretions.


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