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I watch this show for 6 years and loved the chaos and confusion the whole time.
Then it ends like that?!?!?!
>:( >:( >:( >:(
I hope all three of the alternate endings they're going to show on Kimmel are the smoke monster murdering the producers and writers of the show
Never watched it. Glad it's over, along with 24. (never watched that pos either) :D
I could never get into 24 either.
I didn't like the ending at all. Didn't answer anything and actually gave more shit to wonder about. I agree, WTF?!
The kimmel alt endings were not what I was expecting, but they
were a little entertaining.
IMO a lot of things don't fit with the ending or the story line and absolutely nothing got explained or answered. The cast on kimmel didn't seem to have a clue about anything either.
I no longer buy into shows with endless meandering story lines
you sit there waiting for some sort of intellectually consistent conclusion to the plot line
then they don't get renewed for another season and they just drop the series and leave you hanging like a high school date (ex: X Files)
or give you some bullshit conclusion cobbled together on-the-fly that can't or doesn't explain 1/10th of the questions raised during the series' lifecycle
this is why I have chosen to follow the Kardashians...I find them profoundly attractive, spiritually enlightened and intellectually insightful
I even have a nickname for the fat one; Karcrashian
I think the Statue of Liberty should be torn down and sold for scrap back to the French
and we should erect a statue of the Kardash gals...they are the true symbol of what America now represents to the rest of the world
No one survived the crash.
Quote from: Mad Duc on May 24, 2010, 03:54:37 AM
No one survived the crash.
I thought this as well, but wasn't certain.
Quote from: Mad Duc on May 24, 2010, 03:54:37 AM
No one survived the crash.
i'm not exactly sold on that...
it seems to me that the "real timeline"
could have actually happened with hurley and ben (and rose and bernard) staying behind while lapidus, kate, sawyer, miles, claire, and richard really left on the plane.
in his meeting with jack, christian said that some of the people in the church died before him and some died after him. the conversation between hurley and ben suggests that they "ruled" the island together for some time. therefore, as christian said, the altiverse was a place where all of those people could be together again before they moved on.
the final episode felt a little "wrapped up" to me but, for the most part, i enjoyed it. honestly, it could been a lot worse. ;D
fwiw, i've had a few other fleeting ideas about the series since the finale.... a list of "what ifs" that may not survive peer review. ;D
what if... the "everybody gets together" thing was a hurley construct. ben basically told him that he can throw out jacob's rules and make his own. and it definitely seems like something "make everybody happy" hurley would do for his friends.
what if... the first time they "got rescued," when jack said "we have to go back," what if everybody else was "ready to go" and them going back to the island was actually to "save" jack?
that's probably really overthinking, though may eventually rewatch parts of the season/series with a new eye given the finale.
aside from lost-haters, do any of you have other "plausible" thoughts?
;D
Quote from: Monsterlover on May 23, 2010, 07:07:49 PM
I could never get into 24 either.
I tried but the show failed. All Jack did was yell and he never shot the people that needing shooting. Kinda like X Files.
Watched maybe 1-2 Lost shows when it came on but had zero interest. Never hooked me.
Quote from: fastwin on May 24, 2010, 08:18:43 AM
I tried but the show failed. All Jack did was yell and he never shot the people that needing shooting. Kinda like X Files.
he's making up for that his season.
Quote from: fastwin on May 24, 2010, 08:18:43 AM
Watched maybe 1-2 Lost shows when it came on but had zero interest. Never hooked me.
episode 4 (walkabout) was the one that hooked me. after seeing the beach scene following the crash a few times, specifically the focus on locke's wiggling toes, the "big reveal" of his paralysis was brilliant.
I saw the first 3 episodes of season one, but also never got hooked.
One question though, was the fat guy still fat in the end? Was that one of the plot points that they were able to finalize in the end, or was that also just a huge question mark?
Quote from: NoisyDante on May 24, 2010, 11:08:10 AM
I saw the first 3 episodes of season one, but also never got hooked.
One question though, was the fat guy still fat in the end? Was that one of the plot points that they were able to finalize in the end, or was that also just a huge question mark?
they were only on the island (the first time) for about 4 months... how long do you think it would take for him to lose a "noticeable" amount of weight?
Quote from: derby on May 24, 2010, 11:24:46 AM
they were only on the island (the first time) for about 4 months... how long do you think it would take for him to lose a "noticeable" amount of weight?
I'd think he'd lose a liiiittle bit from the manual labor and the heat, but 4 months isn't much time, didn't know that, obviously I didn't tune in.
My coworkers tell me some 'Dharma Initiative' entity had food or supplied food or something.
I think this would have been a good opportunity for that actor to have his agent negotiate a personal trainer into the contract. Though if they shot drastically out of order, he would have had to fatten back up.
Quote from: NoisyDante on May 24, 2010, 11:36:12 AM
I'd think he'd lose a liiiittle bit from the manual labor and the heat, but 4 months isn't much time, didn't know that, obviously I didn't tune in.
My coworkers tell me some 'Dharma Initiative' entity had food or supplied food or something.
yeah, there was a food drop in season 2.
http://lostpedia.wikia.com/wiki/Periodic_resupply_drop (http://lostpedia.wikia.com/wiki/Periodic_resupply_drop)
Quote from: NoisyDante on May 24, 2010, 11:36:12 AM
I think this would have been a good opportunity for that actor to have his agent negotiate a personal trainer into the contract. Though if they shot drastically out of order, he would have had to fatten back up.
iirc, he lost (hehehe) some weight in real life, obviously not a lot.
Emotionally I thought the finale was brilliant. It made me choke up a few times. At the end though when I still had 11bill questions about it I was pretty disappointed.
Who made the statue?
Why did pregnant women die on the island? Why didn't they die in the 70's?
Who found the island originally? Who put the cork in "the heart?"
What is the origin of the island?
etc etc etc
Where did the numbers originally come from?
I know they're from the island but why broadcast those numbers?
Agreed on the statue.
How could entering the numbers and pushing a button relieve built up electromagnetic energy?
How'd that work before they installed the comodore 64 with the magic button?
Why can Desmond survive it and nobody else can?
I'm wondering if they all didn't die when Juliet set off the H bomb. The two resulting timelines weren't happening in parallel. The real world time line happened after the island timeline.
Thoughts?
Or even better, the real world timeline was actually the afterlife.
Jack was the last (that we know of for sure) to die on the island. He was also the last to "remember" his life there. Didn't Kate tell him they were all waiting for him inside [the church]?
Quote from: derby on May 24, 2010, 11:56:42 AM
iirc, he lost (hehehe) some weight in real life, obviously not a lot.
HA, lost [laugh]
Quote from: Monsterlover on May 24, 2010, 01:13:55 PM
Or even better, the real world timeline was actually the afterlife.
Jack was the last (that we know of for sure) to die on the island. He was also the last to "remember" his life there. Didn't Kate tell him they were all waiting for him inside [the church]?
jack wasn't the last to die on the island. we saw him die in the bamboo forest while hurley, ben, rose, and bernard stuck around for an undetermined amount of time.
I can't remember. . .
they showed the 4 of them still alive after they showed jack die?
OK... now I am offically lost in this thread. Pun intended. [laugh]
Quote from: Monsterlover on May 24, 2010, 02:25:17 PM
I can't remember. . .
they showed the 4 of them still alive after they showed jack die?
i don't recall them being shown, but we didn't see them leave the island.
if you take the church scene at face value, hurley tells ben he was a great number 2 (to his number 1), implying that they spent some time on the island after jack died.
i may have posted this before, but i love this pic accompanying the wired article (http://www.wired.com/magazine/2010/04/ff_lost/):
(http://www.wired.com/magazine/wp-content/images/18-05/ff_lost_2000px_f.jpg)
good stuff here, especially the timeline at the top.
(right-click > view image to see full size)
I was Lost when the fat guy never seemed to lose weight.
Must have had a hidden stash of Oreo's somewhere on the island.
Quote from: Duck Fat on May 24, 2010, 04:39:49 PM
I was Lost when the fat guy never seemed to lose weight.
Must have had a hidden stash of Oreo's somewhere on the island.
from earlier in the thread:
Quote from: derby on May 24, 2010, 11:24:46 AM
they were only on the island (the first time) for about 4 months... how long do you think it would take for him to lose a "noticeable" amount of weight?
Quote from: derby on May 24, 2010, 11:56:42 AM
yeah, there was a food drop in season 2.
http://lostpedia.wikia.com/wiki/Periodic_resupply_drop (http://lostpedia.wikia.com/wiki/Periodic_resupply_drop)
iirc, he lost (hehehe) some weight in real life, obviously not a lot.
Quote from: derby on May 24, 2010, 02:40:07 PM
i don't recall them being shown, but we didn't see them leave the island.
if you take the church scene at face value, hurley tells ben he was a great number 2 (to his number 1), implying that they spent some time on the island after jack died.
well the out here is that we don't know when jack died in relation to any of them. Christian said some of them died before him, some after.
Quote from: Monsterlover on May 24, 2010, 05:35:32 PM
well the out here is that we don't know when jack died in relation to any of them. Christian said some of them died before him, some after.
christian said the people
in the altiverse died before or after, not on the island.
assuming the island was real and the altiverse was purgatory (or bardo (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bardo), or whatever), jack died after re-corking the island.
Right (sort of). Reread my last post.
What I was getting at is just because (ben for example) ben is already at the church (dead) before jack gets there doesn't mean he actually died before jack did.
At least that's how I'm currently interpreting it.
Maybe the guy who wrote it also did the last Seinfeld episode...
Just sayin'.
Quote from: Monsterlover on May 24, 2010, 06:11:12 PM
Right (sort of). Reread my last post.
What I was getting at is just because (ben for example) ben is already at the church (dead) before jack gets there doesn't mean he actually died before jack did.
At least that's how I'm currently interpreting it.
gotcha... sounds like we're on the same page.
LOST re-enacted by Cats in 1 minute. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-DShnvNNv0&feature=player_embedded#lq-lq2-hq-vhq)
Spoiler:
The island takes off.
Quote from: IV on May 25, 2010, 03:30:33 AM
Maybe that fade out is the reason I'm not disappointed with the ending, but I never really expected nor wanted a full disclosure. Polar bears, statues etc...For me it was about the characters, their lives and relations, second chances, trails and what not.
I was a bit disappointed when the ending began (don't remember exactly when) to get a bit of Christianity-dogma-feel. All that business with heaven, hell and afterlife. This show deserved a better influence.
this is one of the better post-finale LOST write-ups i read yesterday: http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/showtracker/2010/05/lost-if-you-come-with-me-ill-show-you-what-i-mean.html (http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/showtracker/2010/05/lost-if-you-come-with-me-ill-show-you-what-i-mean.html)
Quote from: Pip of Darkness on May 25, 2010, 03:41:32 AM
Spoiler:
The island takes off.
that was the season 4 finale. ;D
Quote from: derby on May 25, 2010, 04:22:48 AM
that was the season 4 finale. ;D
Damn... did I just get derby'd by its eponym? ???
Quote from: derby on May 25, 2010, 04:21:50 AM
this is one of the better post-finale LOST write-ups i read yesterday: http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/showtracker/2010/05/lost-if-you-come-with-me-ill-show-you-what-i-mean.html (http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/showtracker/2010/05/lost-if-you-come-with-me-ill-show-you-what-i-mean.html)
That was very well written indeed. Really helps put things into perspective.
Also, I was thinking maybe we aren't supposed to know the origins of the island and who put what where, because the "losties" never knew.
Maybe it was supposed to be a Rose N Bernard outlook on it: "We don't know what the island is or who was here before us, and frankly we don't care because we are all together and happy now and that's all that matters."
Quote from: derby on May 25, 2010, 04:21:50 AM
this is one of the better post-finale LOST write-ups i read yesterday: http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/showtracker/2010/05/lost-if-you-come-with-me-ill-show-you-what-i-mean.html (http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/showtracker/2010/05/lost-if-you-come-with-me-ill-show-you-what-i-mean.html)
Thanks you for that Derby...the author expressed my feelings about the show far far better than I could have. His Watership Down reference was perfect!
I think everyone that is disappointed should read 'Venus on the Half Shell' by Kilgore Trout