Ducati Monster Forum

1.    Valentino Rossi    ITA   Fiat Yamaha Team    1m    49.751s   
2.    Jorge Lorenzo    ESP   Fiat Yamaha Team    1m    50.12s   
3.    Loris Capirossi    ITA   Rizla Suzuki MotoGP    1m    50.359s   
4.    Colin Edwards USA   Monster Yamaha Tech 3    1m    50.772s   
5.    Dani Pedrosa    ESP   Repsol Honda Team    1m    50.773s   
6.    Ben Spies    USA   Monster Yamaha Tech 3    1m    51.004s   
7.    Casey Stoner    AUS   Ducati Marlboro Team    1m    51.128s   
8.    Andrea Dovizioso    ITA   Repsol Honda Team    1m    51.255s   
9.    Nicky Hayden USA   Ducati Marlboro Team    1m    51.387s   
10.    Hector Barbera    ESP   Paginas Amarillas Aspar    1m    51.582s   
11.    Randy de Puniet    FRA   LCR Honda MotoGP    1m    51.605s   
12.    Marco Simoncelli ITA   San Carlo Honda Gresini    1m    51.717s   
13.    Marco Melandri    ITA   San Carlo Honda Gresini    1m    51.782s   
14.    Aleix Espargaro    ESP   Pramac Racing    1m    52.202s   
15.    Hiroshi Aoyama JPN   Interwetten Honda MotoGP    1m    52.399s   
16.    Mika Kallio    FIN   Pramac Racing    1m    52.418s   
17.    Alvaro Bautista ESP   Rizla Suzuki MotoGP    1m    55.257s

What a surprise...

Actually, yes:

I didn't get past 1 and 2. Capirossi is a huge surprise. Lets see if he can keep the race pace.

Not to mention Colin Edwards in fourth.  It's still early though but that was also nice to see.

Loris must be on a fresh motor....LOL


you think we'll see a motor grenade in this race?

Yeah, yeah, blah, blah, blah....  [roll]

Wake me 4 laps in on race day.

Race prediction, Vale 1st, Jorge 2nd and what the hell... Casey 3rd. Remember, you heard it here first.   [laugh]

OMF Rossi broke his leg in practice! Helicoptered to hospital   :-X "official diagnosis: VR has suffered a displaced&exposed fracture to the third medium of the right shinbone."


Likely to miss FOUR races: http://www.motomatters.com/news/2010/06/05/valentino_rossi_out_of_mugello_motogp_li.html (http://www.motomatters.com/news/2010/06/05/valentino_rossi_out_of_mugello_motogp_li.html) 


I really didn't want Lorenzo to win this year damn it.

Here's the video. http://www.motogp.com/en/videos/2010/FREE+EXCLUSIVE+VIDEO+Rossi+crash+in+Mugello+FP2 (http://www.motogp.com/en/videos/2010/FREE+EXCLUSIVE+VIDEO+Rossi+crash+in+Mugello+FP2)

I was really looking forward to the brewing battle between Rossi and Lorenzo.  Oh well!  :-\

wow... that is a pretty serious injury  :(
he's in surgery now...
get well soon valentino

he hasn't missed a race since 1996

Valentino Rossi mugello Crash 05062010.mpg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J4lYnZD8rV8#lq-lq2-hq-vhq)

Boy, do I feel stupid!

Heal well VR.

Qualy results

Pos.   Rider   Team   Bike   Time
1   Dani Pedrosa   Repsol Honda   Honda   1:48.819
2   Jorge Lorenzo   Fiat Yamaha   Yamaha   1:48.996
3   Casey Stoner   Ducati Marlboro   Ducati   1:49.432
4   Nicky Hayden   Ducati Marlboro   Ducati   1:49.546
5   Colin Edwards II   Tech 3 Yamaha   Yamaha   1:49.683
6   Randy De Puniet   LCR Honda   Honda   1:49.737
7   Ben Spies   Tech 3 Yamaha   Yamaha   1:49.861
8   Andrea Dovizioso   Repsol Honda   Honda   1:50.065
9   Aleix Espargaro   Pramac Racing   Ducati   1:50.168
10   Hiroshi Aoyama   Interwetten Honda MotoGP   Honda   1:50.224
11   Marco Simoncelli   San Carlo Honda Gresini   Honda   1:50.434
12   Loris Capirossi   Rizla Suzuki   Suzuki   1:50.479
13   Hector Barbera   Paginas Amarillas Aspar   Ducati   1:50.561
14   Marco Melandri   San Carlo Honda Gresini   Honda   1:50.664
15   Mika Kallio   Pramac Racing   Ducati   1:50.970
16   Alvaro Bautista   Rizla Suzuki   Suzuki   1:53.243

that was my first thought.

So he's going to be out for a few races, will Spies move up to take the Factory bike? Or some other guest rider.

Damn it, this really sucks. I really don't want Lorenzo to win because Rossi's injured. It doesn't feel right. But then again, there is still plenty of time for Lorenzo to launch himself into the stratosphere.

i'm watching fp2 right now, and it's really hard to see him in that much pain.. the incident completely silenced the crowd.

That was terrible to watch.  Here's hopes to a good recovery and well wishes until he returns.

Out for the year?

http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5isJKDFdDBgMP-BRpNXC5nSTAvCKw (http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5isJKDFdDBgMP-BRpNXC5nSTAvCKw)

Well Matador, where do you want the JWB and cigars sent to.

On another note, how does this play out with who stays at Yamaha?  I'm assuming Spies will move up to the factory squad to take his place for the next 2-3 months ( or season ).

there's debate on whether or not the rookie rule would allow that.

saying that, if they want to give him the experience, there's nothing keeping them from pairing him with burgess and crew on the tech 3 team.  [evil]

This sucks!!!

Hope Rossi feels better soon.    :(

I'm sure his larger than life personality will be greatly missed at the track.

The rest of the season won't be the same without him.

Wouldn't 'most' replacement riders fall under the new rookie rule also?

The rule says a rookie is someone that hasn't done 9 motogp events in a single season.

The rules, as I understand them, also say that Yamaha must replace Rossi after he misses two or three races.

Bayliss was sputtering about riding again.... ;D

But I'm betting Spies gets the nod as a replacement.

I tended to cheer for Ducati, but very very bummed.
It wont be the same without Valentino.  :'(   

it is very sad indeed.

if he's out for the rest of season, do you guys think he's coming back next year?

Yes. In red.

I dunno, significant injuries have a way of making people reconsider things.  Schwantz comes to mind.

I think so.

I don't think Rossi will want to be remembered going out waving from a stretcher.

i think rainey had a lot to do with schwantz.

I would think Colin would be the more likely candidate to move up to the Factory team.  His consistency would help them secure the manufacturers title.  Anyway if either Ben or Colin move up who is going to move into there spot at Tech 3...Toseland, Bayliss?

Colin's already been there. They'd probably promote Spies to play second fiddle to Jorge...rules permitting.

what a battle for 4th... sad to see nicky go down
no matter, i just can't be excited to see the pedrobot win

i don't know about colin taking rossi's place... he finished last  :-\ spies is more likely, imo

Race results

1.    Dani Pedrosa    ESP   Repsol Honda Team    42m    28.066s   
2.    Jorge Lorenzo    ESP   Fiat Yamaha Team    42m    32.080s   
3.    Andrea Dovizioso    ITA   Repsol Honda Team    42m    34.262s   
4.    Casey Stoner    AUS   Ducati Marlboro Team    42m    53.789s   
5.    Marco Melandri    ITA   San Carlo Honda Gresini    42m    53.801s   
6.    Randy de Puniet    FRA   LCR Honda MotoGP    42m    54.031s   
7.    Ben Spies    USA   Monster Yamaha Tech 3    42m    56.872s   
8.    Aleix Espargaro    ESP   Pramac Racing    43m    8.238s   
9.    Marco Simoncelli ITA   San Carlo Honda Gresini    43m    9.460s   
10.    Loris Capirossi    ITA   Rizla Suzuki MotoGP    43m    10.173s   
11.    Hiroshi Aoyama JPN   Interwetten Honda MotoGP    43m    11.161s   
12.    Hector Barbera    ESP   Paginas Amarillas Aspar    43m    11.429s   
13.    Colin Edwards USA   Monster Yamaha Tech 3    43m    42.459s   
14.    Alvaro Bautista ESP   Rizla Suzuki MotoGP    43m    52.455s

DNF:   
Mika Kallio    FIN   Pramac Racing   
Nicky Hayden USA   Ducati Marlboro Team

http://www.motogp.com/en/news/2010/Tech+3+review+Mugello+result (http://www.motogp.com/en/news/2010/Tech+3+review+Mugello+result)

On the other side of the Monster Yamaha Tech 3 garage team-mate Colin Edwards was affected by a mystery fatigue which he first felt in the morning warm-up session. The Texan finished the race 13th and was dissatisfied after feeling strong on his M1 machine throughout the weekend.

“I'm really disappointed and a bit mystified because I've felt good all weekend and we got the bike working really well again after we switched back to the setting we had at Mugello last year,” said Edwards. “The bike was working well, but I can't ride in that condition. I felt fatigued really early in the race and was really struggling to change direction with the bike. I've had a bit of an arm pump issue all weekend for the first time in my career and needed quite a few injections to ease that. I'll try and figure it out and be ready to come out fighting strong in Silverstone.”

more from colin:

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/84191 (http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/84191)

Woo!  Go Pedro!  [bow_down]  ( He's the only shot I got at not losing my Rossi/Lorenzo bet )   ;D

Dani!! My hero.

(he's not really miserable in real life.)

He has a life? ;D

Jorge's post-race comment:

"I wanted to win and dedicate this to Vale but I come second. So I dedicate that place to him"
 
[laugh]

He'll be back- I was on a bike after a compound tib and fib in 4 months and I sure as hell a'nt in the condition of a GP rider. He'll be back in the game. Maybe 5 races missed if the healing is slow. I would also agree he'll wear red at some point before he hangs up his boots.

V.
 [evil]

“Now I can say my morale is reasonably high because I’ve discovered I have a great rapport with morphine!” he joked, before going on to show that he was well and truly on the road to recovery with another comment about the race, which Dani Pedrosa won shortly after the interview. “I hope nobody wins!”

Good thing he didn't finish 10th

Wait, he's human?  [laugh]

I'm personally still puzzled by how pissed Jorge looked after the race. I don't for one minute think he was all broken up by Vale's accident and he can't be that bummed getting beaten by the Pedrobot.

Can he?

I wouldn't blame you if you wanted to back out now, it doesn't feel right without Rossi in the running.

Ahhh, this is where you need to understand the Spaniard mentality. To see his arch-enemy beat him by 5 seconds while he had to battle with what he considers a lesser opponent would be like being forced to watch while someone else has his way with his woman. You have to understand that with Rossi out of the challenge he expected an easy win, instead he was humiliated by his main rival and had to fight for second. Yes, we are a stupid people. 

This Sucks !

Now everything is up in the air .

It's pretty much for sure Rossi isn't going to win another Championship this year.

Maybe this will spur the boys in Red to get there shit together.

They don't have Vale as an excuse .

I feel your pain Val.

Torn ligaments and Tendons w, a crushed Ankle , then 7 weeks of a Staff infection .

Dolph

Rossi - He will be back for a few races at the end in blue and white. Expect him to be in blue and white next year

Spanish Turd - Still a dick regardless of how many races he wins. Just goes to show that you should never give him a clear track. He sucks when actually "racing".

Whore-ge - Dissapointed that he lost to the turd. Probably relived that he doesn't have to battle Rossi all season long

Stoner - Why couldn't he have ridden the whole race like he did the last lap?

Nicky - Borrowed Stoner's bike.

He makes my life miserable. Does that count? [laugh] You need to do a google search for better heros. [cheeky] The MotoGP season just made AMA SBK look good. [bang]

Dude, for someone who's latin, you don't really know much about Spanish people. I expect Lorenzo to be the most upset, apart from Rossi, that Rossi is out of contention. If only due to the fact that if he wins the championship this year, all the haters are going to sayit was gifted to him by the injury.

I agree with Jesus. Who gives a shit if you win the gold medal in the 100 meter sprint at the Olympics if the best sprinters all fall down? If Lorenzo wins there will probably be an astric next to his name. * = no Rossi. [bang]

Nah, he had already shown that he could beat Rossi on similar machines. Now he just needs to be smart. He's by far the best rider out there right now simply because the turd isn't fast unless he's leading.

Man, mebbe my expectations for this season were too high, but it's been disappointing so far.  Casey keeps falling down, The Ben has been hit or miss, Colin has been uninspired and the 250 riders are nowhere to be seen.  The couple of bright spots are Hayden and Dovi back on pace and the fact that Honda has turned around its fortunes so quickly.   That was 4 hondas in the top 6?  Not bad, particularly considering that they looked like dogshit at the beginning of the season.  Did they all go back to Showa or did they just get it figured out?

And is it me or are the Ducati guys falling down a lot?

Oh, and Pedrosa is still a douchenozzle.

+1.

On the other hand, I hated Moto2 for replacing 250s, but I love it now.  Guilty pleasure, I guess.

Everybody is falling down a lot.
Stoner's been having troubles.
Ben's pulled out of one race with a duff front, and lost the front once to crash out.
Rossi's been chasing for rear grip, likely with a setup biased to get front grip, and it bit him on the ass.
Nicky this week.
Capirossi twice in races, yes?

AFAIK, Dovi got the Ohlins figured out, as he's been on them since last September.
I'm not convinced that Pedrobot has the Ohlins figured out, he looked better this weekend, but I think it's just luck.
Melandri switched back to Showa, and it seems to be working.
I think all the other Hondas are on Ohlins still.

IMO, Bridgestone lost part of the recipe over the winter.

Rossi's replacement to come from Tech 3.  No, not The Ben.  (in Ryder's opinion)

http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2010/Jun/100607v46t3.htm (http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2010/Jun/100607v46t3.htm)

define irony.

The last thing I want to watch is a Fiat Yamaha torpedoing the back of Nicky's Desmo.  It will be interesting to see if Yuki can at least fight with the mid pack guys on superior equipment to his last ride.

If Ben or Colin filled in for Rossi, how do the points and engine rules work out?  Would rider points continue to accumulate normally, even though a person rode for two different teams?

Personally, I wonder if Hayes would turn down the offer.  He might prefer to focus on winning a national title?  Maybe if they offer the seat to Gibernau, Rossi will be motivated to heal as fast as possible :).

rider points are exactly that, rider points. constructor points, however, would stay w/ the team.

Points go to the rider.  Engines go with the team/bike.  Edwards/Spies would be using Rossi's engines.

I don't wanna see Takahashi (though Dorna would love to have a Japanese rider in the mix).  I either wanna see Colin on the bike or The Ben if they'll make a rule exception.   Not sure if either of those things are going to happen.  Then Crutchlow to Tech 3.  

I know he's leading the Moto2 championship, but woulnd't Elias be a solid fill-in rider?  That'd do a lot for getting him back into the MotoGP paddock.

Nah.  Rossi is out of the running because he made a mistake and his luck finally ran out.  That's racing man, it just won't be his year.  Jorge still has to win the championship though.  I'm rooting for Pedro or for Jorge to launch himself into the stratosphere again.

Booooo, hiss!

(http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00032/pedrosa_280x420_32402a.jpg)

Dani finds your lack of support amusing.

wasn't Shanghai where he went totally airborne and broke both ankles?...and that track is yet to come...

Yeah, but he finished that race in fourth and came back next race two weeks later to finish second. His right wrist was also Fubared.

Spies post-Mugello OTT interview  (with some LeMans discussion)

http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/7545625 (http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/7545625)

As usual, a really interesting technical discussion.

How would that fit into the rookie rule?

rule wouldnt' apply. he's not a regularly contracted rider in the motogp class.

he's also not a rookie.  he was in 2009, until talmacsi's money took his seat.

Ironic that he's not subject to the rookie rule but Spies apparently is ;D

how is it ironic?  this is ben's first year in GP.  yuki's was last year.

what IS ironic is that in 2009 yuki was given the Scot honda ride over ben b/c honda wanted a japanese rider in the series.  so ben went to wsbk, destroyed shit, yuki went to GP, crashed into some people, and then was replaced with another backmarker.

That's kind of what I was getting at. Ben's a different class of rider.

Did he do the 9 races?

Just curious, because to be honest the rule confuses me.

nah, actually he only did 7.  thought it was more than that.