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Title: Public 'Ticket Chronicles'_NEED ADVICE
Post by: joekarati on June 03, 2008, 09:17:38 PM
MUTHERFATHERCOCKERSPANIEL...!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I got another ticket this year...this time for "speeding" although the officer did not put down my approx speed on the citation...WTF?

But, that's not the topic here per se...HOW MANY TIMES have you been pulled over and /or ticketed in your career as a driver?



Ready, crack a coldy for this one... [drink]  Welcome to the Peoples Republic of California!

---disclaimer---I may have to edit his to ADD as memory serves, but here goes:

12 years old. Honda Mini Trail 50.   Driving on Public roads with an off road vehicle.  (no ticket)
16 years old. 63 Chevy Bel Air.  Pulled over for sunglasses hanging on the rear view mirror. (no ticket).
17 years old. 65 Chevelle Malibu.  Pulled over for flashing my reverse light as cop was driving behind me, I had a bright flood light off of a D8 tractor rigged to a switch for my reverse light.  :P  (no ticket, field sobriety test)
18 years old.  Honda 350R, street legal.  Pulled over for riding my girlfriend with no passenger pegs.  (ticket, fought and won).
20-ish years old. VW bug.  Seat belt ticket.  About the time the law took effect? (ticket, no contest)
21-ish years old. VW bug.  Driving down a one way street the wrong direction.  (ticket, fought and won...seriously, the muthermake the beast with two backsers changed the flow of traffic down this little side street with no clear signs to see, judge dismissed).
22-ish years old. VW bug.  Crashes bug making a left hander in the city, swears to this day the other driver popped the cherry. (no ticket, at fault).
STOPS DRIVING but goes to Connecticut to see a friend, he's high, I offer to drive and get pulled over for running a red. (ticket).
25 years old.  65 Chevy Impala two-door hard top, pregnant doges.  Pulled over for swerving in the hood.  (no ticket).
28 years old.  73 Triumph Bonneville.  Pulled over for "riding on the sidewalk", I was make the beast with two backsing parking it, San Fran style. (ticket, fought and won).
32 years old.  Monster 1K.  Crossing the double double yellow, speeding, etc.  (ticket for double yellow only, no contest, traffic school).
33 years old.  Monster 1K.  Speeding, ACH. (ticket, fought and won written trial by declaration).
34 years old.  Monster 1K.  License plate rake, Orange Curtain.  (no ticket).
36 years old.  2004 Ford 150.  Flicking a cigarette out the window.  (obvious ticket, no contest).
36 years old.  2004 Ford 150.  Crash on the 5, not at fault, glad to see Johnny Law that day... [thumbsup]
36 years old.  2004 Ford 150.  "Speeding" and something about my lane changes...(ticket for speeding, WILL FIGHT, TOTAL BS).

Other juvenile incidents, without incident. 
Skateboarding.  Broke into school gym to skate because it was raining.  Cops busted us, no ticket.
Graffiti.  Cops pulled over as we were tagging a Bus bench, they caught us and we denied it, no ticket.

Okay, so, I'm selling all my vehicles, only crossing the street when the "walk" sign flashes, paying my taxes on time and going back to Church.   [bang]




WHO'S NEXT?   ;D
















Title: Re: ANOTHER TICKET...Public 'Ticket Chronicles'
Post by: darylbowden on June 04, 2008, 09:07:22 AM
I don't remember nearly all of them, but I remember that by the time I hit 20 in Texas (driving since age 15), I had amassed around 25 citations.  Now, not ALL of them were traffic related (had a couple MIPs and some other nonsense), but my favorite 2 were:

1)  Leaving vehicle running while unattended.  Apparently, if you leave your truck running while you run in to grab a pack of smokes (and the only other person in the parking lot of the convenience store is a COP), that's illegal.

2)  Driving on the sidewalk.  I got annoyed with traffic and decided to use the sidewalk to go around a couple drivers who were particularly annoying. 

Cali has nothing on Texas when it comes to BS traffic tickets and overzealous cops. There are some bored-ass state troopers out there.


Title: Re: ANOTHER TICKET...Public 'Ticket Chronicles'
Post by: lucazuma on June 04, 2008, 09:29:21 AM

...dood, i dont think the server has ehough memory to hold the list of tix i got :)

living in Rome means having to KNOW that you WILL have to set aside bet 200/300 euro a month for tix...

The system is soooo backed up, my father still calls me up to say that hes getting notices for tix i took when i still lived there  ;D ...4years ago!

Since i moved to the US the flow has drammatically slowed down altho it feels like the tix i get here sting much more...probably because i get tix here for things cops dont give tickets fro in Italy...and dont get them for things im used to get them for back in the old boot...

ANY-WHO

i dont have such a good memory but i think i got a total of 3 parking tix (since i moved to Venice/Santa Monica) and 4 or 5 speeding...(faught all of them and none on my record:))



Title: Re: ANOTHER TICKET...Public 'Ticket Chronicles'
Post by: Grampa on June 04, 2008, 09:34:54 AM
I just turned in my traffic school cert.

I officially never went fast 8)


Title: Re: ANOTHER TICKET...Public 'Ticket Chronicles'
Post by: gm2 on June 04, 2008, 09:55:13 AM
age 16, day 1 of having a license.  hauling ass down some back road toward a friend's house.  cop.  he yells and screams, tells me that's it, my license is gone.  but doesn't give me a ticket.

age ~19, driving cross-country by myself, car full of stuff cuz i'm moving.  driving across the hell that is nebraska, finally realize there's lights behind me.  really nice cop but he tells me he's been behind me for miles.  lol.. woops, guess the rear view mirror was blocked.  he writes me a ticket, then says, "ok, follow me to the courthouse."  WHAT?  in nebraska you either pay on the spot or go see the judge on the spot.  i chose the former... he actually whipped out a credit card swiping machine.  crazy.



Title: Re: ANOTHER TICKET...Public 'Ticket Chronicles'
Post by: lucazuma on June 04, 2008, 10:43:11 AM


...tisk...those nebraskians  [roll]...tell me about it thats where i got my 998 and had to "test drive" it around the block  [evil]

...dont cops have bee hives or something on their doors? or is that utah?


Title: Re: ANOTHER TICKET...Public 'Ticket Chronicles'
Post by: madmatt on June 04, 2008, 03:00:08 PM
hmmmm...ok...where to start:

(note: this doesn't include the countless times we were harassed by the popo for skateboarding and underage drinking on vacant dirt hill tops)

15 years old. lighting firecrackers on an old burnt down lot. next thing you know, we're surrounded by cops. they make us walk backwards with our hands on top of our heads screaming at us. searched us face down on the ground. Turns out someone said we were shooting guns. Let us go, even after they found our bong.

17 years old. driving back to by dorm in Santa Cruz after a day of drinking. Got flipped off by the car next to me. Decided it would be a good idea to kick her car. I was greeted at the school entrance by 3 cop cars. According to the cop, "the good news is that you get to go home, the bad news is that you're going to have to deal with this later." she was right. After getting mug shots, finger printed and charged they let me go with a "vandalism with malicious intent" charge in addition to a restraining order.

17 years old. seatbelt ticket. not for me, but for my passenger. yes, they can ticket the driver as well.

18 years old. driving back to my dorm in Santa Cruz after buying some beer with my 23 year old friend. got pulled over after unknowingly taking part in an ABC sting operation. after confiscating my booze and giving me a ticket the sent me home. I decided to ignore that 'silly ticket.' after 2 years of driving on a suspended license and a warrant I realized how they didn't agree. they extended the probation I was already on and gave me a restricted license for a year.

18 years old. driving from Santa Cruz to LA. Got pulled over for 'allegedly throwing artichokes at a semi truck.' he let us go despite the bags full of artichokes in the back seat from our stop in Castroville.

19 years old. checking out of rehab with a call full of celebratory helium balloons. I pulled onto the 101, crossed 5 lanes at once got pulled over. after explaining I was just excited to get out of rehab he let me go. I pulled back into traffic as all of my balloons flew out of my sunroof and away they went.

19 years old. Speeding ticket PCH 62 in a 55. traffic school.

22 years old. pulled over on lincoln during a prostitution sting operation. oddly enough, there was nobody else in my car besides me. they embarrassingly apologized and let me go.

There are others, but those are some of the better ones.





Title: Re: ANOTHER TICKET...Public 'Ticket Chronicles'
Post by: derby on June 04, 2008, 03:38:56 PM
22 years old. pulled over on lincoln during a prostitution sting operation. oddly enough, there was nobody else in my car besides me. they embarrassingly apologized and let me go.


were the johns not biting that night, or what?


Title: Re: ANOTHER TICKET...Public 'Ticket Chronicles'
Post by: madmatt on June 04, 2008, 03:47:08 PM
were the johns not biting that night, or what?

yeah, that's before you were trolling.


Title: Re: ANOTHER TICKET...Public 'Ticket Chronicles'
Post by: Gus Duc on June 04, 2008, 04:11:26 PM
16-  Santa Cruz doing dounuts in my high school paring lot while the driving instructor was teaching some students from my class in the school's Chevy Chevette [laugh]  Cop laughed too & gave us a warning.  Man I miss my 78 Trans Am.

Same year..... throwing eggs..... checker at the grocery store called the cops after we bought 5 flats of eggs.... guess she didn't buy my story about my Mom being a caterer.... cops were waiting at my buddies house.... warning & luckily my buddies dad was cool & didn't tell my parents.

17- My first moto VFR 700 get pulled over on HWY 17 headed towards Scotts Valley.... shaking like a leaf..... cop says he pulled onto 17 & 120 & we were pulling away :o  Ticket.  Traffic school.  Lesson learned.

18- Road trip to LA.... VW Cabriolet 3 guys & 2 cases of beer.... got pulled over in Buellton at Ave. of the Flags...1 guy passed out & 3 Taco Bell cups that smell like beer not to mention the un-opened beer under the blanket next to the pased out guy... cop gives my buddy driving all the tets & amazingl he passes..... just when we think we're getting off the hook, his partner comes around to the passenger side where I'm seated & says he smells beer......... just after that I cut the nastiest fart.... cop opens the door, his partner asks him what he smells, & he says:" It smells like $hit......." & he slams the door [laugh]  We still laugh over that one to this day..... the fart that saved a 502.

36-  Westbound on the 10 Suday morning 5:45 on my way to meet Lester @ Chevron...... cop lights me up @ 4th & gives me a ticket for 65 :o  Took the traffic school option as I hadn't been since tha first one back in 87.

Those are the highlights..... when I lived in PV I got pulled over every other night for driving red GTi late a night with dark windows..... apparently it wasn't nice enough to be driven in PV [cheeky]  That got old fast.....

Lots of warnings on the bicycle too but no tickets...... just alot of lectures.......


Title: Re: ANOTHER TICKET...Public 'Ticket Chronicles'
Post by: joekarati on June 04, 2008, 05:37:47 PM
 [laugh] [laugh] [laugh]

@ Matt and the Artichokes...


Good Times... [laugh] [laugh] [laugh]


Title: Re: ANOTHER TICKET...Public 'Ticket Chronicles'
Post by: derby on June 04, 2008, 05:55:48 PM

the fart that saved a 502.


it's really bad when you have the code for driving while intoxicated memorized.  ;D


Title: Re: ANOTHER TICKET...Public 'Ticket Chronicles'
Post by: Gus Duc on June 04, 2008, 06:35:34 PM
it's really bad when you have the code for driving while intoxicated memorized.  ;D

especially when you're in a chick car like an 85 VW Cabriolet with a white top & there are no chicks in sight [laugh]


Title: Re: ANOTHER TICKET...Public 'Ticket Chronicles'
Post by: Privateer on June 04, 2008, 09:21:52 PM
pulled over once for speeding down La Palma.  Guy let me off because I had a bunch of mountain bike stickers on the side of my car.

pulled over once on the way to Grand Canyon when I missed a limit sign.  Got off with a written warning.


yay me.  Having said all this, I'll need to be very careful in the next few weeks.. bad karma and all.


Andy


Title: Re: ANOTHER TICKET...Public 'Ticket Chronicles'
Post by: madmatt on June 05, 2008, 07:25:31 AM
Blew the tranny...

I think Derby did that once.  [popcorn]


Title: Re: ANOTHER TICKET...Public 'Ticket Chronicles'
Post by: joekarati on June 05, 2008, 07:47:15 AM
I think Derby did that once.  [popcorn]

 [laugh] [laugh] [laugh]


Title: Re: ANOTHER TICKET...Public 'Ticket Chronicles'
Post by: derby on June 05, 2008, 07:52:15 AM
I think Derby did that once.  [popcorn]

you looked so cute in that dress, i couldn't resist.


Title: Re: ANOTHER TICKET...Public 'Ticket Chronicles'
Post by: hbliam on June 05, 2008, 10:47:44 PM
it's really bad when you have the code for driving while intoxicated memorized.  ;D

It actually dates him. That's the old code (502) and where the cop term "deuce" comes from. Like, "I think that guys deuce", or "I hooked a deuce tonight". The new one(s) is/are 23152 (a) and 23152 (b).

I also got my share of tickets in my youth. Maybe 7 or 8. None for the past six years.

I "had" to open up the new R6 the other night. Last I saw was 148 or some nonsense. Actually very stupid. Then saw a black and white behind me. I motion that I'm going to pull over, he waves me off. I have no idea why he let me go.



Title: Re: ANOTHER TICKET...Public 'Ticket Chronicles'
Post by: Loyalizer on June 23, 2008, 12:35:18 PM
Too many to count. However, today in the mail, I just found out I triumphed over yet another ticket and I quote, "Due to lack of Prosecution". Trial by Declaration is my new best friend. I'm going to by it a drink with the $500 I just saved...
[beer]


Title: Re: ANOTHER TICKET...Public 'Ticket Chronicles'
Post by: sexybill18 on June 23, 2008, 05:36:57 PM
been a long time since i've had a car (12 years or so), i think i got two speeding tix total during those years
1) speeding on that freeway that goes to laguna in my first car, a 79 datsun 200sx (avocado green metal flake and gold mag wheels - big pimpin'.  it's nickname was the frog.

2) charmed my way out of two potential tix and a lifetime in jail in baja california in my 2nd car, 81 jeep cj-5. broken tail light, fueled by pacifico, tequila and a crappy 4-banger motor.  thank god, i had taken 4 years of spanish, had no cash in my wallet and am handsome as the is long.  got pulled over twice, at night, on the way home from a day mucho celebrando.  my last resort was to tell the cops my jail name is 'juan estabadude'.

cut to 12 years later sans car...
3 tix, by same cop, doing the same exact thing on an orange 03 kawi z1000 in the same mother grabbing month. (that 3rd ticket doesnt go over so well w/ wives, btw)

traffic school for #1, trial by declaration for #2 -- DENIED was able to do traffic school.  and for some unknown reason able to do traffic school for the 3rd as well.  i'm a pro at on-line traffic school.  can get it done in just 3 hours.

fyi...don't cross the white line (into the shoulder to pass cars in the transition loop from the 101 E to the 405 S.  it took me three times to learn that lesson.  and apprently looks doesn't always get you a warning.  i'll have to look into purchasing some push-up bras.

chp motor officer mathews can kiss my gritts.


Title: Re: ANOTHER TICKET...Public 'Ticket Chronicles'
Post by: MetalDuc on June 23, 2008, 10:57:22 PM
I remember that month. Sucks ass. They should make a bike lane over there inthat extra room. Besides shouldnt he have been on the prowl for real criminals?


Title: Re: ANOTHER TICKET...Public 'Ticket Chronicles'_UPDATE!
Post by: joekarati on October 21, 2008, 06:00:28 PM
***UPDATE***

GOOD NEWS:

I BEAT my speeding ticket by Trial by Declaration!!!

Hurray!!!!!!!  So, for the second time, I have beaten a ticket by Written Trial...first one on the Crest, 9 miles over.
This one was in the Truck, 80 in a 65...

 [beer] [beer] [beer]

BAD NEWS:

New Ticket... let's just say the Bail is set for...$1,177.00

 [bang] [bang] [bang]

make the beast with two backs ME, this one I have no idea what to do, so let's hear it...long story short.

I passed a guy who was parked on the Crest at the rest stop at Mount Wilson.  I go, he musta come up from behind me...and he musta had a cop on his tail...

Me, CRUISING down the staircase, looking for a spot to pull off and take a photo (seriously).  I find a spot, begin to pull off and hear the Moto Cop (not Stout) siren the guy that was at the rest stop.  I had NO idea that this guy was anywhere close to me...he musta make the beast with two backsing jammed up the hill to catch up to me... Cop pulls him over, I am already pulling over just to take a make the beast with two backsing photo, and he points at me!!!  Like, hey, come here!!!  WTF?

It musta looked like the guy on the 998 and I were riding together, or IMO, at the point the cop caught up to him, he was just catching up to me...at this point I amd totally confused!!!

Turns out the guy on the 998 was LBPD.  I overheard this....the cop chews the 998 guy out, "What the make the beast with two backs are you thinking?!" the cop says to him...and guess what, the cop writes me up first, shocker!

He won't talk to me, he won't get near me...then he asks, are you guys together?  Me, "No, I don't know the Guy 998"...

He writes me up for crossing the double yellow and for excessive speed.  I verbally deny both counts.  I say, how fast did you think I was going?  He says, "You tell me?"  I paced you TWO at 70MPH...I state again, I'm not riding with 998 Guy!  He ignores me...

I should have stayed, but in the moment, I was totally confused and didn't realize that it may have been the case that he chased 998 guy and then caught up to me...

WHAT TO DO?:

A:  Fight by Written Trial-  I have to post bail...

B:  Hire a lawyer and fight in person.

C:  Fight in person, no lawyer.

D:  Dude, you're make the beast with two backsed, you and I both know that he saw you speeding and crossing the double yellow when you passed that Subaru on the uphill...this was a weird pass as I was NOT pressuring the Sub to pull over...they just simply made room for me on a long uphill straight and I took it...

BUT, this was miles back...very close to Mt. Wilson, no way had the 998 guy suited back up and caught up to me in that stretch...or did he...and BTW, where did the cop come from in all this?  make the beast with two backs if I know...



 ;D ;D ;D



Title: Re: Public 'Ticket Chronicles'_NEED ADVICE
Post by: GregP on October 21, 2008, 06:19:25 PM
DUDE, $1200!!!!!!  DANG!! :o

I have a sheriff that is on campus every day as a community rep. (Good guy).  He swears that if I file by decleration I will lose my ability to do traffic school.

What's the dealio, Mr. Ticket Assasin?

DANG, $1200!!!! :o

PS A lawyer is gonna cost more than $1200, no?  How many points is that gonna be? Can you go to traffic school with that high of a tix?

Holly crap, $1200!!! :o


Title: Re: Public 'Ticket Chronicles'_NEED ADVICE
Post by: joekarati on October 21, 2008, 06:50:59 PM
Uh, Dudes, I'm an idiot.  I just realized that the major infraction on my ticket was not having insurance proof at time of stop.  I have it, did not have it on me, looks like the bail amount will be cut in half if not more...

GregP:

You can request a New Trial-but I ain't saying nothing.  Search TR-220

BUT, what defense can you come up with that will potentially get you off the hook for speeding with a trailer?

I would fight your ticket by trial, I would argue that the cop did not have an accurate assessment of your speed...I can send you my defense for my 65 in an 80.  I stated that I was doing approx 65 at the time of my stop...that's make the beast with two backsing arguing that the speed assessment was 15 mph OFF what he states!  I used an arsenal of defenses to state that he did not have an accurate judgment of my speed. 

BTW, this cop NEVER informed me of my speed.  He did not state pacing, did not state radar.  In fact, there was no approx. speed written on my ticket!  He had to make an addendum to the infraction and it was sent to me 2 weeks later! 

So, I fought all fronts.  If he was pacing, had an argument, if he in fact used radar, argument...it's 2 pages long.

jc



Title: Re: Public 'Ticket Chronicles'_NEED ADVICE
Post by: hbliam on October 21, 2008, 09:02:30 PM
Uh, Dudes, I'm an idiot.  I just realized that the major infraction on my ticket was not having insurance proof at time of stop.  I have it, did not have it on me, looks like the bail amount will be cut in half if not more...

GregP:

You can request a New Trial-but I ain't saying nothing.  Search TR-220

BUT, what defense can you come up with that will potentially get you off the hook for speeding with a trailer?

I would fight your ticket by trial, I would argue that the cop did not have an accurate assessment of your speed...I can send you my defense for my 65 in an 80.  I stated that I was doing approx 65 at the time of my stop...that's make the beast with two backsing arguing that the speed assessment was 15 mph OFF what he states!  I used an arsenal of defenses to state that he did not have an accurate judgment of my speed. 

BTW, this cop NEVER informed me of my speed.  He did not state pacing, did not state radar.  In fact, there was no approx. speed written on my ticket!  He had to make an addendum to the infraction and it was sent to me 2 weeks later! 

So, I fought all fronts.  If he was pacing, had an argument, if he in fact used radar, argument...it's 2 pages long.

jc



He probably just didn't fill out the form and return it.  :)

BTW: What color were A: the 998 and B: The driver of the 998


Title: Re: Public 'Ticket Chronicles'_NEED ADVICE
Post by: joekarati on October 22, 2008, 04:50:06 AM
Yellow Motorbike (998?  996?) , African American.  We chatted for a minute about the track...nice guy.

This must all sound pretty strange...I mean the course of events leading up to the pull over...I was distracted and searching for a place to pull off...I never looked back, I never heard 998 if he was in my range...

The long, long story is that 998 is fast.  I saw him at the base of the Crest.  I gassed up and he took off.  I never saw him on my way up.  At the first rest point, he was stopped, I passed, then stopped off the side of road to snap a photo.  He passes me, I give a little chase, good pace, Never saw him until the Mount Wilson turn off point...I pass him, again, he's pulled off the road there.

At that point in the trip, there's a looooong uphill straight, then quite a few more uphill turns until the descent into the staircase...

I may go back up there to calculate speed and mileage between points...if he was tailing me, say he jumped right back on and caught up to me quick, at what point did the cop see "us"...?  Shite, wish I had eyes in the back of my head. 

And No, for the record, I didn't use my mirrors once that trip...never do.   :P


Title: Re: Public 'Ticket Chronicles'_NEED ADVICE
Post by: madmatt on October 22, 2008, 08:23:54 AM
maybe google earth snapped an image...check there.


Title: Re: Public 'Ticket Chronicles'_NEED ADVICE
Post by: hbliam on October 22, 2008, 09:16:10 AM
Yellow Motorbike (998?  996?) , African American.  We chatted for a minute about the track...nice guy.

Yeah, he's a very nice guy. It's a nice 998 as well.


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