Title: 696 rebuild - on the road & stage 2 Post by: Raux on June 09, 2010, 10:34:34 AM Well here is a brief photo update
(http://img1.werkenntwen.de/photo12/0f169289724f954c6131a2f705150bcf/0/p/0pupvd7ayba2qwdn9zdclg0bv6b.jpg) Title: Re: 696 rebuild - finally an update Post by: Pip on June 09, 2010, 11:51:28 AM SONUVpregnant dog I can't see this pic at work. [bang]
Title: Re: 696 rebuild - finally an update Post by: Chucko9-696 on June 09, 2010, 01:32:14 PM lookin great [thumbsup] cant wait o see the finished product [drink]
Title: Re: 696 rebuild - finally an update Post by: Travman on June 09, 2010, 03:59:59 PM Very cool. You're probably the first ever with a red subframe. What color are the wheels going to be?
Title: Re: 696 rebuild - finally an update Post by: danaid on June 09, 2010, 05:55:06 PM Almost there! ;) Did you get the suspension bits sorted out? Ahhh nice "black" swing arm.
Title: Re: 696 rebuild - finally an update Post by: Duck-Stew on June 09, 2010, 06:07:42 PM Hey J!
Lookin' good bro... I'm assuming the slightly pink-ish looking color is a result of poor photography. Is that YOUR engine back together?!? What year is the F1 behind your bike?!? [evil] [laugh] Title: Re: 696 rebuild - finally an update Post by: Raux on June 09, 2010, 08:11:18 PM yeah sorry cell phone pic. the red is the official PPG red from the new Ducati's I found the color mixture from PPG for the perfect match.
The rear sub has been polished so it's as smooth as the the front. I'll take the good camera today. the swingarm has been smoothed a bit and PC'd semi matte black like the wheels, I have one of the early grey swingarms Wheels are stock black but eventually i hope to put OZ or Carrozeria (Sp?) black rims. Want to get special 4.5 rear made so i can stick with teh 160 rear. the front forks are on the way, modified 1198 Showas. The engine is 100% stock at this point. just want to get it back on the road first. upgrades will be DP ECU, Air filter, machined flywheel, ergal cam rollers, port and polish (did a bit of cleanup already on the intake plenums) That's part original TT F1 behind it. We have 3 being built in the shop, including one original. We make the frames at the shop. also have a former Xaus race motor that need rebuildin! boy do i want that for a track bike. Title: Re: 696 rebuild - finally an update Post by: ungeheuer on June 10, 2010, 02:02:30 AM Looking good Raux I cant wait to see the finished deal.....I'm sure this photo doesnt do that subframe true justice...
You powdercaoted the rear spring black too.... I like [thumbsup] Title: Re: 696 rebuild - finally an update Post by: DucatiTorrey on June 12, 2010, 05:11:52 AM Amazing work Raux, i had once thoguht of doing the swing arm a darker shiny black, but the subframe, nice work! Cant wait to see the forks too. Wow.
Title: Re: 696 rebuild - finally an update Post by: Raux on June 12, 2010, 07:56:24 AM Hey J! I misspoke. that IS an original TT F1, but not an endurance like i was thinking it was. That one (the Endurance) is on a track in France this weekend. I got to do some hands on work on the F1 yesterday. pretty cool, but some of it has been totally rigged. his oil breather tube is a cut garden hose, probably from a certain track requirement that he never took off. Lookin' good bro... I'm assuming the slightly pink-ish looking color is a result of poor photography. Is that YOUR engine back together?!? What year is the F1 behind your bike?!? [evil] [laugh] Title: Re: 696 rebuild - finally an update Post by: Raux on June 13, 2010, 01:12:23 AM the forks are here. oh so nice black DLC on the lowers. I had the triples reworked to be black and properly set up for the 53/53mm SBK forks. working the brake issue with a great company out of Colorado. I am getting 6-bolt 15mm offset rotors instead of using 5mm spacers. means i have some good 320mm 10mm offset rotors with black middles for sale ;)
Ergal rollers are coming, got for good deal off ebay. all the engine/exhaust mods will wait til after summer i think. i want to ride sooo bad. still need to figure out the headlight situation. i don't think i can get the 848 front end grated on quickly enough so i have to find a temporary solution. Title: Re: 696 rebuild - finally an update Post by: ungeheuer on June 13, 2010, 02:53:18 AM So you're using the stock triples but bored out to 53mm? I take it that your original stock headlight didnt survive....
Title: Re: 696 rebuild - finally an update Post by: Raux on June 13, 2010, 02:57:21 AM No, the triples are being custom made by Style & Performance out of Italy. He had made the silver set, but said the top was too thin for boring. so we went ahead and swapped the whole set out and made them black to match the new 1198 forks (original plan had silver S4R forks). They will fit the stock light, but yeah I don't have one anymore (toast with the rest of the front end).
Title: Re: 696 rebuild - finally an update Post by: BellissiMoto on June 13, 2010, 08:40:27 AM Hey Raux,
I'm glad I found this thread, as I was actually checking Desmo-M's website to see if they had any finished pics of your bike last night. Anyhow keep up the good work and post some more pics! Title: Re: 696 rebuild - finally an update Post by: pjfa on June 13, 2010, 09:58:25 AM Nice work Raux.
You will enjoy/love the 1198 fork [thumbsup] I have the 2008 1098 fork (showa) and I can now feel the road. I will follow your updates [thumbsup] I also chose to buy a new triple instead bore the standart due to thickness. Title: Re: 696 rebuild - finally an update Post by: Raux on June 15, 2010, 09:30:13 AM so, here I am chopping up the 2nd airbox i picked up on the cheap for a tester... and surprise... it has a high flow airfilter in it... :) freebees and i didn't even know it.
Title: Re: 696 rebuild - finally an update Post by: Veloce-Fino on June 15, 2010, 09:50:10 AM I see your trying to spite my by finishing before my predicted 6 months as of a few days ago.
Great progress. Are you sure you don't want to let me "borrow" your dp ecu until your done ;D Title: Re: 696 rebuild - finally an update Post by: Raux on June 15, 2010, 11:12:19 AM yeah the DP ECU goes on the modified airbox tomorrow [evil]
Title: Re: 696 rebuild - finally an update Post by: DucatiTorrey on June 15, 2010, 03:09:29 PM what are you doing to the airbox?
Title: Re: 696 rebuild - finally an update Post by: Raux on June 15, 2010, 08:22:48 PM doubling the size of the intake openings
also will soon have 2 sets of clipons for sale. finally found the replacement, a set of woodcrafts. I'll post in the parts for sale when i take pics of the second set. the first, the highrise DP ones are already there. Title: Re: 696 rebuild - finally an update Post by: ungeheuer on June 16, 2010, 02:10:28 AM Those DP sportclassic highrise clipons are a tasty bit of gear and if I wasnt already all Swatted up, I'd take em off you in a heartbeat.
Title: Re: 696 rebuild - finally an update Post by: Duck-Stew on June 16, 2010, 02:34:05 AM Got any new pics?
Title: Re: 696 rebuild - finally an update Post by: Raux on June 16, 2010, 02:54:50 AM no new pics. I have it all taped up to protect the paint (i scratched it the other day [bang]) waiting for the new black triples.
Title: Re: 696 rebuild - finally an update Post by: Veloce-Fino on June 16, 2010, 08:56:01 AM Which set of woodcraft clipons did you go with. What height riser (if you got risers)
I'm looking into these for myself and feel they may be a better option than the speedymotos. Edit* it appears that the woodcrafts are very similar to the now dead Swatt clipons. agree? Title: Re: 696 rebuild - finally an update Post by: causeofkaos on June 18, 2010, 08:11:15 AM Title: Re: 696 rebuild - finally an update Post by: stopintime on June 18, 2010, 08:47:29 AM [popcorn]
good to see you're getting somewhere [thumbsup] Title: Re: 696 rebuild - finally an update Post by: Raux on June 20, 2010, 10:09:22 AM I think I have everything here or on the way again
But i think it's going to be 2 weeks, not this week [bang] then i will post completed pics Title: Re: 696 rebuild - finally an update Post by: DucatiTorrey on June 20, 2010, 11:17:40 AM were you really thinking 848 lights? how? fairing?
Title: Re: 696 rebuild - finally an update Post by: Raux on June 20, 2010, 11:28:39 AM I'm working on a special mount for the 848 front end.
I have the 696 dash mounted on the 848 dash holder already. did that last week. have the new Corsa screen on the way as well. looks bad ass. can't wait. Title: Re: 696 rebuild - finally an update Post by: DucatiTorrey on June 20, 2010, 01:05:53 PM I'm working on a special mount for the 848 front end. I have the 696 dash mounted on the 848 dash holder already. did that last week. have the new Corsa screen on the way as well. looks bad ass. can't wait. that sounds insane, i need pictures... Title: Re: 696 rebuild - finally an update Post by: Raux on June 22, 2010, 01:34:49 AM just a minor update.
tires... Mich. Pilot Road 2CT... too much autobahn around to go with softer tires. also, picked up the steel lightweight sprocket, Electron fast throttle cam and ergal cam gears. need to lighten the flywheel and but may wait til i do the headwork and get the PC V. trying to get the motor to spin faster to get to the 6k powerband quicker. Title: Re: 696 rebuild - finally an update Post by: Raux on June 22, 2010, 01:36:27 AM Which set of woodcraft clipons did you go with. What height riser (if you got risers) I'm looking into these for myself and feel they may be a better option than the speedymotos. Edit* it appears that the woodcrafts are very similar to the now dead Swatt clipons. agree? sorry i think i answered this in another thread, but i got the zero rise woodcraft for the stock sbk setup Title: Re: 696 rebuild - finally an update Post by: Raux on June 22, 2010, 01:37:25 AM pic please ;D rethinking this one. I may not do this until i get the PC V. Title: Re: 696 rebuild - finally an update Post by: ungeheuer on June 22, 2010, 02:24:21 AM just a minor update. I just put Michelin Power Pures (2CT) on mine.... so far I likey [thumbsup] The Michelin tyre range is sooooooooooooo bloody confusing though...... Are Power Pure 2CT softer than Pilot (Power?) Road 2CT??tires... Mich. Pilot Road 2CT... too much autobahn around to go with softer tires. Sorry.... I dont wish to hijack ya thread with yet another ..um.... fascinating.... tyre conversation. Title: Re: 696 rebuild - finally an update Post by: Raux on June 22, 2010, 02:33:17 AM I just put Michelin Power Pures (2CT) on mine.... so far I likey [thumbsup] The Michelin tyre range is sooooooooooooo bloody confusing though...... Are Power Pure 2CT softer than Pilot (Power?) Road 2CT?? Sorry.... I dont wish to hijack ya thread with yet another ..um.... fascinating.... tyre conversation. i think the Hardness goes, Road, Power, Pure Title: Re: 696 rebuild - finally an update Post by: ungeheuer on June 22, 2010, 02:40:19 AM ..soon be time for a new set then.... [laugh]
Title: Re: 696 rebuild - finally an update Post by: Raux on June 22, 2010, 02:42:29 AM (http://www.michelinmotorcycle.com/img/sport_comparo_lg.jpg)
Title: Re: 696 rebuild - finally an update Post by: Raux on July 01, 2010, 12:57:32 PM (http://img4.werkenntwen.de/photo12/9d9a62ceebcee423aef21b4fb3ebd2ca/z/j/zjwzmnptw9tkwfl2jgocp25v3c2.jpg)
320mm, 15mm-offset, 6-bolt, full-floating, wave rotors from Braking [evil] Title: Re: 696 rebuild - finally an update Post by: ungeheuer on July 01, 2010, 01:04:49 PM Shit hot [evil] [clap]
Title: Re: 696 rebuild - finally an update Post by: pjfa on July 01, 2010, 01:27:30 PM Niiiiiiiiiiiiice [evil]
Raux... don´t give us ideas. Look how bad is the situation ;D (http://img806.imageshack.us/img806/5798/xvii13novosmealheirosde.jpg) Title: Re: 696 rebuild - finally an update Post by: 00Kevin on July 01, 2010, 03:38:24 PM It all sounds ridiculously awesome.....i'm kinda losing it waiting for some pics though! What's with all the suspense??
Title: Re: 696 rebuild - finally an update Post by: Raux on July 01, 2010, 06:03:49 PM time.. it's a natural suspense builder... the shop is going to be closed for a couple of weeks for holidays, so it's going to be building more now. i should have photos of the new triples though when they arrive in the mail.
Title: Re: 696 rebuild - finally an update Post by: DucatiTorrey on July 02, 2010, 04:21:22 AM time.. it's a natural suspense builder... the shop is going to be closed for a couple of weeks for holidays, so it's going to be building more now. i should have photos of the new triples though when they arrive in the mail. oh thats right, in Europe you don't have holiday weekends, you have holiday months... Title: Re: 696 rebuild - finally an update Post by: Veloce-Fino on July 02, 2010, 05:13:19 PM time.. it's a natural suspense builder... the shop is going to be closed for a couple of weeks for holidays, so it's going to be building more now. i should have photos of the new triples though when they arrive in the mail. holiday for a couple of weeks ...pffffff here in AmUrica! I work 55hr weeks and have 4 days off a year. On top of that the government steals all my money and kicks me in the nuts at the end of the year. It's GREAT!! [thumbsup] Remember Raux... I gave you six months to finish or I get all your parts. ;D Title: Re: 696 rebuild - finally an update Post by: Raux on July 02, 2010, 07:42:00 PM holiday for a couple of weeks ...pffffff here in AmUrica! I work 55hr weeks and have 4 days off a year. On top of that the government steals all my money and kicks me in the nuts at the end of the year. It's GREAT!! [thumbsup] Remember Raux... I gave you six months to finish or I get all your parts. ;D oh trust me the germans pay some SERIOUS taxes here. probably 50% but they do have a lot of vacation time and great health care what was that completion date? Title: Re: 696 rebuild - finally an update Post by: Veloce-Fino on July 02, 2010, 08:38:05 PM oh trust me the germans pay some SERIOUS taxes here. probably 50% but they do have a lot of vacation time and great health care what was that completion date? 6 months from last month... so 5 month from now... making it December. Lets just say by December.. ;D I'll pm you my address so you can ship everything to me in December, call it an early christmas present. [cheeky] Title: Re: 696 rebuild - finally an update Post by: Raux on July 02, 2010, 09:17:39 PM honestly.. you're gonna lose this one, so what do i win again ;)
i have everypart here and the correct ones now. only thing left to work out is the mount for the 848 front end, but i have another light in case i can't get that in a month. Title: Re: 696 rebuild - finally an update Post by: Veloce-Fino on July 03, 2010, 03:59:12 PM honestly.. you're gonna lose this one, so what do i win again ;) i have everypart here and the correct ones now. only thing left to work out is the mount for the 848 front end, but i have another light in case i can't get that in a month. crap. I'll mail you a macaroni picture of me saying good job. Title: Re: 696 rebuild - finally an update Post by: Raux on July 12, 2010, 06:16:01 AM New Style & Performance triples with 53/53mm bores!
yummmmmm (http://img12.werkenntwen.de/photo12/e046b3e7524dd0ee71437a3bf51c5d79/9/j/9jd4ebhitj16gym2vjffahsa8d3.jpg) (http://img5.werkenntwen.de/photo12/e046b3e7524dd0ee71437a3bf51c5d79/m/5/m5zi4zvizks8kbe6i4j9oavcsrp.jpg) and 1098 axle is here, hopefully i'll be in the shop this weekend for some measuring up. Title: Re: 696 rebuild - finally an update Post by: stopintime on July 12, 2010, 10:21:32 AM Title: Re: 696 rebuild - finally an update Post by: Raux on July 17, 2010, 09:55:43 AM (http://img14.werkenntwen.de/photo12/e050c96afb017942b3be609e241d6c2f/4/e/4ex4ofw6ip0cjcvkm16v1k49aig.jpg)
thinking i'm gonna have to extend my kickstand. does that look high or what! Title: Re: 696 rebuild - some good progress Post by: DucatiTorrey on July 17, 2010, 01:59:59 PM is your geometry changing?
Title: Re: 696 rebuild - some good progress Post by: Raux on July 17, 2010, 02:16:32 PM i'm using the 1100 rear suspension mount along with the taller forks, so it sits more like the 1100 now.
Title: Re: 696 rebuild - some good progress Post by: M1100 on July 17, 2010, 02:44:55 PM lookin good!
Title: Re: 696 rebuild - finally an update Post by: stopintime on July 17, 2010, 09:02:44 PM thinking i'm gonna have to extend my kickstand. does that look high or what! Looking good Raux 8) Someone recently talked about a HM stand. Maybe cheaper to extend your own, but I thought I'd mention it. EVO SP even higher than ordinary HM? Title: Re: 696 rebuild - some good progress Post by: Raux on July 18, 2010, 01:08:57 AM looked at some photos, i think the HM spring is on the front. the 696 has the spring in the back of the kickstand.
Title: Re: 696 rebuild - finally an update Post by: ungeheuer on July 18, 2010, 01:48:04 AM Looking good Raux 8) Yup [clap] [thumbsup]Since 696 side stand is a welded steel jobbie, wouldnt be too difficult to fabricate a longer "foot" would it? Title: Re: 696 rebuild - finally an update Post by: Raux on July 18, 2010, 01:50:32 AM Yup [clap] [thumbsup] Since 696 side stand is a welded steel jobbie, wouldnt be too difficult to fabricate a longer "foot" would it? probably the solution I'll go with. next saturday I'm at the shop again. the guy that works there is like a master problem solver and master welder!. you should see the TT frames he builds. Title: Re: 696 rebuild - some good progress Post by: stopintime on July 18, 2010, 05:54:01 AM The HM discussion mentioned the need for the full assembly - probably because of the spring and/or switch(?)
More obvious solution to get a M1100 stand - if welding isn't your #1 choice Title: Re: 696 rebuild - some good progress Post by: mattc7 on July 18, 2010, 06:49:09 AM dont waste money on a 1100 stand...it's no longer than the 696,the bike just leans harder (especially with a taller profile tire like a pirelli). motocreations +1" stand it.
Title: Re: 696 rebuild - some good progress Post by: stopintime on July 18, 2010, 07:52:32 AM dont waste money on a 1100 stand...it's no longer than the 696,the bike just leans harder (especially with a taller profile tire like a pirelli). motocreations +1" stand it. Ok - didn't know that. I assumed it was higher since the 1100 is about 40mm higher.... Title: Re: 696 rebuild - some good progress Post by: mattc7 on July 18, 2010, 02:59:15 PM it is a tiny tiny bit longer, but sits at a different angle. The foot isn't as wide, and the aluminum stand is pretty weak (i've seen a few snap), The 1100 leans alot more, I'm not a huge fan of how much they lean, but they get the job done.
Title: Re: 696 rebuild - some good progress Post by: ungeheuer on July 18, 2010, 09:02:05 PM dont waste money on a 1100 stand...it's no longer than the 696.... Really? Whilst I admit I've never actually measured and compared....... are you sure?? Title: Re: 696 rebuild - some good progress Post by: mattc7 on July 19, 2010, 01:49:22 AM Really? Whilst I admit I've never actually measured and compared....... are you sure?? i haven't measured them side by side, i'm basing on hearsay from reputable sources. Title: Re: 696 rebuild - some good progress Post by: DucatiTorrey on July 19, 2010, 02:40:19 AM why would it be longer? the bikes seat height is just about the same, only different because of the bracket thingy on the rear shock. Tires would make the bike taller but I don't see wy it would be.
Title: Re: 696 rebuild - some good progress Post by: stopintime on July 19, 2010, 08:45:25 AM why would it be longer? the bikes seat height is just about the same, only different because of the bracket thingy on the rear shock. Tires would make the bike taller but I don't see wy it would be. The 1100 seat height is 40mm more than the 696. I don't know if that means a longer kickstand though. Title: Re: 696 rebuild - some good progress Post by: Raux on July 19, 2010, 08:47:57 AM we'll see when i take it off the stand and lift.
ill try to take a pic and check the lean angle. just painted upthe new front SBK fender. apparently and i didnt know this, it was a Senna fender... interesting... but it's black now. oh well. Title: Re: 696 rebuild - some good progress Post by: DucatiTorrey on July 19, 2010, 01:21:09 PM The 1100 seat height is 40mm more than the 696. I don't know if that means a longer kickstand though. 40mm? i thoughti heard like 13 mm Title: Re: 696 rebuild - some good progress Post by: Raux on July 19, 2010, 07:24:41 PM 40mm? i thoughti heard like 13 mm 810mm / 31.9in vs 770mm / 30.3in Title: Re: 696 rebuild - some good progress Post by: DucatiTorrey on July 20, 2010, 03:17:46 AM is that all rear shock bracket? i still gotta get that mod done
Title: Re: 696 rebuild - some good progress Post by: Raux on July 20, 2010, 05:56:03 AM i haven't seen the forks side by side. but i'm pretty certain the front sits higher too
Title: Re: 696 rebuild - some good progress Post by: ungeheuer on July 20, 2010, 02:08:58 PM yup M1100 is taller at both ends
Title: Re: 696 rebuild - some good progress Post by: Raux on July 21, 2010, 07:42:41 PM speaking of taller at both ends
i want to measure my front to rear angle. cna someone with an 1100 measure from the front of the frame at a point to the ground and from the tail of the frame to the ground and maybe give me a diagram of your exact measuring points. i want to make sure i don't throw off the stock geometry, now that it's been brought up. Title: Re: 696 rebuild - some good progress Post by: ungeheuer on July 21, 2010, 07:53:28 PM Maybe....
Ask nicely [coffee] Title: Re: 696 rebuild - some good progress Post by: Raux on July 22, 2010, 06:49:01 AM Maybe.... what the hell? you know you're gonna do it even if i don't ;DAsk nicely [coffee] Title: Re: 696 rebuild - some good progress Post by: Raux on July 25, 2010, 09:11:28 AM new fender
(http://img18.werkenntwen.de/photo12/e020c6f71a00d6ae8e31222dd4c44735/q/m/qm372a2k0eq0we4rsmn5wo1ajyl.jpg) well old grey fender with a satin black finish. Title: Re: 696 rebuild - some good progress Post by: Raux on July 25, 2010, 10:09:57 AM Title: Re: 696 rebuild - some good progress Post by: ungeheuer on July 28, 2010, 01:32:53 AM damn... ah ya big sook [cheeky]. I'll be out in the workshop tomorrow hopefully saying goodbye to an airbox, so I'll measure up for you then.please :-[ You're welcome ;D Title: Re: 696 rebuild - some good progress Post by: Raux on August 01, 2010, 04:28:34 AM well some more minor details
the bike is nearly completely wired and ready to fire up. still have details to work out for the rearsets, lights and dash. rear caliper holder painted (http://img12.werkenntwen.de/photo12/ef43c62a71ac78f41244f9840369420a/r/d/rdkuecjjsfdmrf69rb1lyzpv5yv.jpg) clips mounted but needing adjustment. fender is not mounted just resting there. (http://img2.werkenntwen.de/photo12/ef43c62a71ac78f41244f9840369420a/x/n/xnaacid4bcskawc0m6slw03xabk.jpg) Title: Re: 696 rebuild - some good progress Post by: DucatiTorrey on August 01, 2010, 07:50:16 AM nice work, when your done, send it my way, ill send another one to replace it...
Title: Re: 696 rebuild - some good progress Post by: Povidius on August 02, 2010, 05:00:09 PM rear caliper holder painted What paint did you use? Also, what paint did you use to paint the brembo logo? Thanks! Title: Re: 696 rebuild - some good progress Post by: Raux on August 02, 2010, 07:01:47 PM Just used a satin black rattle can with about 3 flat black layers and 3 satin layers. not sure it will hold, i have a few parts i'm going to either anodize or powdercoat eventually and this is probably one of them.
the brembo... car touch up paint ;) Title: Re: 696 rebuild - some good progress Post by: Raux on August 04, 2010, 01:24:27 PM Photos from today. I know colors are all jacked up. the space between the light and top triple is where the dash goes, so it won't appear to stick out so far. still have a few minor issues, but i'm thinking this weekend is start up.
(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs212.snc4/38948_103030573087013_100001402122676_21097_6733116_n.jpg) (http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs105.ash2/38591_103030646420339_100001402122676_21098_7296373_n.jpg) (http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs105.ash2/38591_103030649753672_100001402122676_21099_5821135_n.jpg) Title: Re: 696 rebuild - some good progress Post by: Chris,desmoworld on August 04, 2010, 01:33:13 PM i like the full red frame ;D
but i dont like the position of the light .... also if the dash fill out the space the light are to much in front ... looks like its not made for this bike only my point of view [thumbsup] Title: Re: 696 rebuild - some good progress Post by: Raux on August 04, 2010, 01:41:43 PM yeah at first i thought the same. and still may bring it back a few cm.
Title: Re: 696 rebuild - some good progress Post by: Raux on August 05, 2010, 09:12:50 AM well only worked an hour tonight. but the front is torqued and ready to go.
took it off the stands tonight. and the kickstand is short, but not too short. despite the added ground clearance with the longer forks and rear raise, this thing looks low and mean. hooked up the battery and dash... all lights are working no fuses blew. getting ready to start this weekend. a quick oil change to freshen it up, timing belts changed already. get those brackets done and it's test ride time. only changes so far will be the DP ECU with air filter i'm desperate to ride it so i'm gonna wait on the port/polish, flywheel, ergal cam gears, 1100 cams, PC V- until the riding weather goes south again. Title: Re: 696 rebuild - some good progress Post by: DoWorkSon on August 05, 2010, 09:47:41 AM well only worked an hour tonight. but the front is torqued and ready to go. took it off the stands tonight. and the kickstand is short, but not too short. despite the added ground clearance with the longer forks and rear raise, this thing looks low and mean. hooked up the battery and dash... all lights are working no fuses blew. getting ready to start this weekend. a quick oil change to freshen it up, timing belts changed already. get those brackets done and it's test ride time. only changes so far will be the DP ECU with air filter i'm desperate to ride it so i'm gonna wait on the port/polish, flywheel, ergal cam gears, 1100 cams, PC V- until the riding weather goes south again. So what are you going with on the engine internals? The 1100 cams will work I take it? Are you going with the racing cams or the stock 1100 cams? What other engine internals are you replacing? Title: Re: 696 rebuild - some good progress Post by: Raux on August 05, 2010, 09:56:29 AM keeping it a 695cc
replacing cams (stock 1100) flywheel, cam gears. i have an 848 clutch i might try. hmm been so long i forgot the plan Title: Re: 696 rebuild - some good progress Post by: Stinson on August 05, 2010, 11:23:37 AM Nice work!
Title: Re: 696 rebuild - some good progress Post by: 00Kevin on August 05, 2010, 12:02:33 PM That red frame looks absolutely killer [bow_down]!!
Title: Re: 696 rebuild - some good progress Post by: ReapeR696 on August 05, 2010, 04:18:40 PM I'm really interested in your ideas with the engine internals. If they are a bolt up and go, that would be a huge thing for any 696 owners looking to squeeze a few extra pony's out of their bikes. Flywheel is interesting as well. I've done a little searching on that topic but have really ended up with seeing alot of split decisions on wether or not a lightened flywheel is worth it, especially on a smaller cc bike. I'd be very interested to hear your take on it. How'd your idea end up in regards to the airbox? Still running a stock unit or did you end up modifying it? figured you are probably running something different since your using the Termi ECU now, what pipes are you running, Termi's as well? Bike looks amazing, the red frame like many others have commented is on e of my favorite changes along with the whole front end. Great work!
Title: Re: 696 rebuild - some good progress Post by: DarkStaR on August 05, 2010, 04:57:34 PM Someone REALLY needs to make a tubular trellis sub-frame for the newer monster.
I'm starting to get use to the looks of the newer monsters, but never that cast sub-frame. Title: Re: 696 rebuild - some good progress Post by: Raux on August 05, 2010, 07:02:55 PM I'm really interested in your ideas with the engine internals. If they are a bolt up and go, that would be a huge thing for any 696 owners looking to squeeze a few extra pony's out of their bikes. Flywheel is interesting as well. I've done a little searching on that topic but have really ended up with seeing alot of split decisions on wether or not a lightened flywheel is worth it, especially on a smaller cc bike. I'd be very interested to hear your take on it. How'd your idea end up in regards to the airbox? Still running a stock unit or did you end up modifying it? figured you are probably running something different since your using the Termi ECU now, what pipes are you running, Termi's as well? Bike looks amazing, the red frame like many others have commented is on e of my favorite changes along with the whole front end. Great work! for now the airbox got opened up by modifying the filter holder like the DP 1100 kit i have a set of Roads Italia exhausts that were CF. the cans got crushed in the wreck so i replaced the sleeves with AL. THe whole concept for the engine is lighter so it gets to the 6k power faster. as far as the cams, yeah that should help it breath better but i need to wait for the PC V. i want to get it now, but need to wait a few months, still haven't found a renter for my house. appreciate all the comments. you'd be surprised how much your guys' validation helps. the shop i work with speciality is older superbikes so a little monster isn't very impressive to them. Title: Re: 696 rebuild - some good progress Post by: ungeheuer on August 06, 2010, 03:34:45 AM ...cna someone with an 1100 measure from the front of the frame at a point to the ground and from the tail of the frame to the ground and maybe give me a diagram of your exact measuring points. OK so this is far from a precise science but here's what I got: From the top-front of the steering head (so at its highest point) measured vertically to the ground = 890mm +/- 5mm From the foremost of the stock exhaust hanger mounting bolt holes in the rear subframe vertically to the ground = 775mm +/- 5mm Measurements taken with the bike on its wheels, held upright by unreliable 3rd party but otherwise riderless & with around 1/2 tank of fuel onboard. Title: Re: 696 rebuild - some good progress Post by: M1100 on August 06, 2010, 05:05:30 AM ung, you should work for a drug company.....
Title: Re: 696 rebuild - some good progress Post by: DoWorkSon on August 06, 2010, 09:21:09 AM keeping it a 695cc replacing cams (stock 1100) flywheel, cam gears. i have an 848 clutch i might try. hmm been so long i forgot the plan So the 1100 cams are a direct replacement? No other modification needed? Title: Re: 696 rebuild - some good progress Post by: Raux on August 06, 2010, 09:32:18 AM not sure as of yet. need to check valve stem length etc. and will need PC V if everything works.
Title: Re: 696 rebuild - some good progress Post by: dutchy73 on August 06, 2010, 12:03:45 PM Is it just me, or is anyone else dying to see the finished product?! I just gotta know what she looks like finished. I cant take it anymore! The build-up is killing me. :o
Title: Re: 696 rebuild - some good progress Post by: Raux on August 06, 2010, 06:22:30 PM Is it just me, or is anyone else dying to see the finished product?! I just gotta know what she looks like finished. I cant take it anymore! The build-up is killing me. :o you and me both Title: Re: 696 rebuild - some good progress Post by: ungeheuer on August 07, 2010, 12:51:06 AM ung, you should work for a drug company..... How do you know I dont? ;)Title: Re: 696 rebuild - some good progress Post by: M1100 on August 07, 2010, 02:42:25 AM I don't... but with that description you sure didn't take a stand!! hehehe [cheeky]
Title: Re: 696 rebuild - some good progress Post by: Raux on August 07, 2010, 05:14:53 AM ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh she started today [thumbsup] next week hopefully every little thing worked out and test ride on saturday. Title: Re: 696 rebuild - some good progress Post by: ungeheuer on August 07, 2010, 05:16:24 AM You beauty [thumbsup]
Cant wait to see how it turns out [beer] Title: Re: 696 rebuild - some good progress Post by: greenmonster on August 08, 2010, 06:54:15 AM +1 on the red subframe, looks good! [thumbsup]
Surprised more haven`t tried this. Title: Re: 696 rebuild - some good progress Post by: Duck-Stew on August 08, 2010, 06:10:50 PM This is the first 'new' Monster I'm actually looking forward to the completion of!
Raux, nice work thus far and I'm sure there are 'final touches' that will add more to the bike than what you've already shown. Kudos!!! BTW, I did some research while still employed @ the local Duc shop (left for a better job). Turns out the 796's run the same cams as the 696's do. Just thought I'd put that out there. Title: Re: 696 rebuild - some good progress Post by: Raux on August 08, 2010, 06:26:45 PM *these are all winter mod ideas btw the way. GOT TO RIDE SOON
I've been reading a bit more about intake ports so i have a plan PC V - need to get 1100 cams for more aggressive valves - have ergal cam gears that allow some adjustment of timing as well. -have increase the intake opening at the top TB. but keep it the same and the bottom, smooth it a bit through the head. basically force MORE air into the same port size with the more aggressive cam profile. should speed up the intake flow AND allow more air in. - need to do Get a friend to make a new airbox, basically a larger CF box using the old one as the form, ie skin it. but with an 848 style air filter between the two intake ports at the top. or turn the stock sideways. this should increase the volume of the airbox and decrease the turbulence of the flow that the stock airfilter location has to cause. - need to do also still thinking i can figure out how to use the 999 intake plenums with the center located injectors and plug the stock locations. - need to do but have Title: Re: 696 rebuild - some good progress Post by: Raux on August 08, 2010, 06:29:20 PM This is the first 'new' Monster I'm actually looking forward to the completion of! Raux, nice work thus far and I'm sure there are 'final touches' that will add more to the bike than what you've already shown. Kudos!!! BTW, I did some research while still employed @ the local Duc shop (left for a better job). Turns out the 796's run the same cams as the 696's do. Just thought I'd put that out there. Thanks, Stu This wouldn't have been possible without you, Mark, Bruce and others. The encouragement and knowledge given to me over the last year really pushed me to do something I've never done before, but have always dreamt about. Title: Re: 696 rebuild - some good progress Post by: Duck-Stew on August 08, 2010, 07:07:47 PM Thanks, Stu This wouldn't have been possible without you, Mark, Bruce and others. The encouragement and knowledge given to me over the last year really pushed me to do something I've never done before, but have always dreamed about. -=blush=- ;D I may be listed as an inspiration for your work, but your work is just that: all yours. [thumbsup] Title: Re: 696 rebuild - some good progress Post by: ChrisH on August 09, 2010, 04:42:56 AM So the M1100 cams can be used as more aggressive cams for the 696? If so, that's pretty cool!
If you are going to do some headwork, do it up right the first time! Bore the throttle body, use a velocity stack on the Throttle body that draws air from the custom carbon air box like you are thinking, and have someone like Dan Paramore maximize the power through his unbelievably awesome headwork. That's what I'd do if I have the money. Hell, I'll probably find a way to have the money at some point anyway :P http://www.dprracing.com/ (http://www.dprracing.com/) Title: Re: 696 rebuild - some good progress Post by: Raux on August 09, 2010, 05:11:53 AM the cam is theory at this point. no one has done it with the 696
the headwork will be done at the shop i'm at now. not going to go bigger throughout as the TB are the bigger ones as on the 1100 so i know they are big enough. i'm just going to try and speed up the air by forcing more into the same size TB and smooth the head part to allow the higher velocity without disturbing it too much. for the stacks i have a set of 999 with the high mount injectors. thinking about trying that, but if not, i have a set of 916 aluminum ones i'll use as they are larger than the current ones built into the stock airbox. plan is to give the airbox more volume with larger mouths on the bells, less internal turbulence in the box by moving the filter out of the interior. Title: Re: 696 rebuild - some good progress Post by: ChrisH on August 09, 2010, 05:16:02 AM Sounds like a solid plan! Can't wait to hear results! Good luck with your project, looks awfully fun!
Title: Re: 696 rebuild - some good progress Post by: Veloce-Fino on August 09, 2010, 06:15:06 PM Raux, I figured I should thank you in advance for pioneering all these modifications on the 696.
After your project is complete I'll be using it as the textbook for my own modifications. also, christmas is getting ever closer. Better hurry up ;D Title: Re: 696 rebuild - some good progress Post by: Raux on August 10, 2010, 11:17:46 AM FREAKING bar end mirrors don't fit the bar [bang]
can NOTHING go on easily? Need to take about a mm or more off each diameter on the inserts to fit. the woodcraft bars are pretty thick aluminum so the inner diameter is much smaller than the steel bar. found some black reflective tape today. gonna go ahead and put a small strip on each spoke to get some safety going. also ordered the rear brake pressure switch for the light. readjusted the woodcraft clipons. more swept back. man, i'm gonna need to work out my core muscles before riding this for a long time. rearsets are high and forward now, may adjust them a bit lower but still forward. Title: Re: 696 rebuild - some good progress Post by: stopintime on August 10, 2010, 11:31:34 AM .................... rearsets are high and forward now, may adjust them a bit lower but still forward. Forwardsets? Don't you need them to be further rear to match and support your (clip ons) changed body position? Which ones did you get? Title: Re: 696 rebuild - some good progress Post by: ngk12 on August 10, 2010, 03:18:31 PM Hey Raux. just saw the write up on the bike. youve got some really sweet stuff going on, and im glad to see youre out riding again.
you should get a magnesium alt cover for it? ;D Title: Re: 696 rebuild - some good progress Post by: Raux on August 10, 2010, 05:55:25 PM Forwardsets? Don't you need them to be further rear to match and support your (clip ons) changed body position? Style and Performance. about 4 to 6 positions. right now i think at most forward and high.Which ones did you get? if i go more to the rear my feet will be less under me and unable to help keep up my core. we're talking maybe 1 inch each way. Title: Re: 696 rebuild - some good progress Post by: Raux on August 10, 2010, 05:56:05 PM Hey Raux. just saw the write up on the bike. youve got some really sweet stuff going on, and im glad to see youre out riding again. you should get a magnesium alt cover for it? ;D yeah i should huh. cause if i HAD one, it certainly would be online with pics ;) Title: Re: 696 rebuild - some good progress Post by: stopintime on August 10, 2010, 11:52:43 PM Style and Performance. about 4 to 6 positions. right now i think at most forward and high. if i go more to the rear my feet will be less under me and unable to help keep up my core. we're talking maybe 1 inch each way. If you put the pegs rearward, it lowers your knees, which in it's turn opens up the hip joint. An open hip joint allows the pelvis to rotate forward and straighten the lower back (L4 L5). Bonus of an open hip joint is better functionality with regards to muscle control/strength, which is welcome when controlling a bike. The more forward your upper body is, the more rear your pegs need to be - to ensure a natural function/linkage of the body, head to toe & back. Of course, the rearward limit is when applied lower body strength pushes you forward, not up - then it's too far. In my experience, all Monster generations needs quite a lot rearward'ing when clip ons are introduced. YMMV Title: Re: 696 rebuild - some good progress Post by: Raux on August 11, 2010, 08:55:15 AM good to know.
i'll try the high rear position first, then low rear, before moving forward high then low will do a little riding on all of them to feel the difference. Title: Re: 696 rebuild - some good progress Post by: ngk12 on August 12, 2010, 04:06:02 PM yeah i should huh. cause if i HAD one, it certainly would be online with pics ;) Ill post some pics in a few days, the cover was just put on today. I get the bike back tomorrow, then i have to install a bunch of parts, then ill post some before, crashed and after pics. but the build up wont be nearly as extreme as yours. Title: Re: 696 rebuild - some good progress Post by: greenmonster on August 16, 2010, 01:55:44 PM Just sayin, again,
I do like the red subframe: (http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs105.ash2/38591_103030646420339_100001402122676_21098_7296373_n.jpg) [thumbsup] Lets see more of that! Title: Re: 696 rebuild - some good progress Post by: Raux on August 17, 2010, 11:51:32 AM Thanks
here's the latest pic (http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs309.snc4/40768_106964746026929_100001402122676_54593_1016523_n.jpg) light is moving back 2" still working on an exhaust (near the front wheel) building a bracket for the regulator. not sure about the grab handles. could only use 2 of 3 bolts but have an idea for the third. just not sure i want them now. they aren't has high as i thought in the back and really dont lend to knowing where the back of the seat is for the passenger like say the old ss tails/grabrail My pearl white skins aren't in too bad of shape so i'll have this silver 80's look and the pearl white look when i want and contemplating using the long tail. tired of swampbutt from rain, but we'll see. Title: Re: 696 rebuild - some good progress Post by: stopintime on August 17, 2010, 12:22:02 PM I saw the (new?) Corse body work on a red framed 696 today.....
You know I'm not a huge new-style-Monster fan, but OMG that almost made me change my mind then and there. Title: Re: 696 rebuild - some good progress Post by: Veloce-Fino on August 17, 2010, 01:05:18 PM I saw the (new?) Corse body work on a red framed 696 today..... I make the beast with two backsING LOVE that new corse bodywork... IMHO it looks better on a black frame but I will be getting it in the near future. I believe it's ~$800 for the complete set. You know I'm not a huge new-style-Monster fan, but OMG that almost made me change my mind then and there. Raux, bike it looking pure sex! keep it up Title: Re: 696 rebuild - some good progress Post by: Raux on August 19, 2010, 08:50:44 AM [bang] THink i'm losing my shop support. back to the garage soon.
engine mods may take longer now. Title: Re: 696 rebuild - some good progress Post by: ungeheuer on August 19, 2010, 09:34:15 PM What? They're asking you to..... vacate?? How bloody ungrateful !!
Seems like now's the time to remind 'em that they'd more than likely be speaking Russian and still tripping over rubble if not for the benevolence of Allied forces.... ;). Title: Re: 696 rebuild - some good progress Post by: Raux on August 20, 2010, 02:07:13 PM yeah well. i'm kinda rushing (russian?) to get it running.
it's back together but not the final way. test ride tomorrow. Title: Re: 696 rebuild - some good progress Post by: IZ on August 21, 2010, 10:13:10 AM Thanks here's the latest pic (http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs309.snc4/40768_106964746026929_100001402122676_54593_1016523_n.jpg) light is moving back 2" still working on an exhaust (near the front wheel) building a bracket for the regulator. not sure about the grab handles. could only use 2 of 3 bolts but have an idea for the third. just not sure i want them now. they aren't has high as i thought in the back and really dont lend to knowing where the back of the seat is for the passenger like say the old ss tails/grabrail My pearl white skins aren't in too bad of shape so i'll have this silver 80's look and the pearl white look when i want and contemplating using the long tail. tired of swampbutt from rain, but we'll see. Oh yeah..red subframe with the tank silver/red!! NICE!! Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road Post by: Raux on August 21, 2010, 10:16:08 AM well i took her out today.
couple of hundred km's need to sort out the suspension. loves long sweepy roads, not bumpy city DP ECU + freeflow filter + 15t sprocket... OMG this combo has some speed. not as jumpy as the 14t but i find myself going faster due to thinking i'm not going fast with the lower RPM's. kept thinking my speedo was wrong. 180kph was a breeze. probably hit more, but was dark and was looking far down the road not at speedo. EDIT: oh and the electron throttle cam.. wow, talk about short throttle turns. easier on the wrist for sure. even with bars, i found the long twist of the throttle left my wrist hurting (could be Carpal tunnel) but even with the clipons, the short twist left my wrist at a good angle for riding. no pain after. have my headlight wired wrong, highbeam is on as the low beam. need to sort that out soon. had to use my stock exhausts for now. had no issue with the combo. i'll pull the plugs next week to check if running well. but didnt smell too rich and had some real power. maybe the extra backpressure was good for it. pics coming tomorrow. got home after dark and was wiped. a year not riding, and throwing out 200+km's today with new riding position was exhausting. Of course this is not the end of the thread. have tons of changes. I needed to get it running to 1-get a ride in before summer was over. 2-win the bet on this thread 3=wasn't sure i would have shop support anymore. Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road Post by: 00Kevin on August 21, 2010, 11:41:45 AM Man, that sub frame really is the cat's (_l_) !! Can't wait to see what the head light looks like with that 2" taken back, although I am a fan of the original headlight (minority maybe). Glad you're finally back on the road! [moto]
Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road Post by: Raux on August 21, 2010, 11:46:22 AM Man, that sub frame really is the cat's (_l_) !! Can't wait to see what the head light looks like with that 2" taken back, although I am a fan of the original headlight (minority maybe). Glad you're finally back on the road! [moto] got lazy and impatient. left the headlight in place. but will do the change when i fix the hi/lo beam screwup. thanks on the frame. yeah it was probably my #1 thing I wanted to do. A red frame with red subframe smoothed out. Still don't understand, other than costs, why Ducati doesn't do this even for the black. it's sooo much nicer. Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road Post by: stopintime on August 21, 2010, 11:49:01 AM I can see your smile, even if I am thousands of miles away [moto]
From now on every work hour goes into improving it, no more of the waiting torture now. I'm looking forward to the rest [thumbsup] Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road Post by: ngk12 on August 23, 2010, 04:10:27 PM Glad to hear youre back out riding again...congrats
Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road Post by: Raux on August 26, 2010, 07:09:02 AM (http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs214.ash2/47703_109234589133278_100001402122676_68081_5923570_n.jpg) (http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs428.snc4/47160_109234282466642_100001402122676_68080_2090018_n.jpg) (http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs414.snc4/47703_109234592466611_100001402122676_68082_4851106_n.jpg) Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road Post by: theprocess on August 26, 2010, 07:46:07 AM Nice work! Looks great!
Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road Post by: Veloce-Fino on August 26, 2010, 08:34:26 AM Let me just say, it looks fantastic.
not the end of the thread. have tons of changes. I needed to get it running to 1-get a ride in before summer was over. 2-win the bet on this thread 3=wasn't sure i would have shop support anymore. You certainly have won the bet. Four months ahead of my predictions ;D. Clearly all the time invested was worth it, you have a mean machine. Enjoy the rest of the season and if I'm ever in Germany, I'll be stopping by for a ride. [thumbsup] Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road Post by: Raux on August 26, 2010, 08:54:26 AM thanks.
i'm still getting used to riding with the clipons. my core muscles are sore and my legs shake still when squeezing the tank hard. until i'm stronger I need to ride closer to the tank, and slowly work my way back. and... i notice i'm skittish on left hand turns with railings... wonder why... [bang] also need to really need to readjust my lines, being too conservative and pushing myself wide, having to do midcorner corrections. new tires can handle them well. Pilot Road 2ct. can't believe how much clearance the new changes have given though. Higher rear, longer forks, raised rearsets. pretty amazing. Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road Post by: ungeheuer on August 26, 2010, 03:35:51 PM (http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs214.ash2/47703_109234589133278_100001402122676_68081_5923570_n.jpg) (http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs428.snc4/47160_109234282466642_100001402122676_68080_2090018_n.jpg) (http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs414.snc4/47703_109234592466611_100001402122676_68082_4851106_n.jpg) "you dont have a build, except in your head" [laugh] [laugh] Congrats for sticking to the task. Best way to answer the critics is to say little but do much. Great job Raux, you must be extremely proud. Fabulous work! [clap] [clap] Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road Post by: loopsrider on August 26, 2010, 04:40:46 PM Very nice Raux! [clap]
Title: Re: 696 rebuild - finally an update Post by: Raux on August 26, 2010, 10:15:57 PM crap. I'll mail you a macaroni picture of me saying good job. pm me for my mailing address :D Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road Post by: IZ on August 27, 2010, 01:41:23 AM [thumbsup]
well done!! Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road Post by: dennisd on August 27, 2010, 04:23:07 AM Hey Raux, glad to see I contributed my small part to your build (the billet crankshaft cover).
It's looking GREAT man! I've been thinking about going red for the subframe on my 1100 also. I think what I'd do however (after seeing yours, thank you very much), I'd mask off the inside of the triangle and have that matte black so the subframe looked more like tubes. Maybe a winter project, only problem; we don't get much of a winter in SE Texas. As to your clip-ons; I feel your pain literally. I broke my right wrist many years ago when someone pulled out in front of me. I can no longer ride with the controls that low. That's the main reason I never bought a 1098 or 1198 (even though I REALLY want one). Keep practicing those left turns with guard rails, it'll come back to you. Please, just don't do a repeat performance of your last encounter. [laugh] Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road Post by: ungeheuer on August 27, 2010, 05:10:32 AM I've been thinking about going red for the subframe on my 1100 also. I think what I'd do however (after seeing yours, thank you very much), I'd mask off the inside of the triangle and have that matte black so the subframe looked more like tubes. +1. I also thought that would "lighten" the look of the subframe..... I just didnt like to say so. But you know these Texans have no idea of tact ;) [roll] [laugh]. Anyway since its out there now..... I too would like to see some black vinyl (textured to match the swingarm would be good) applied to the recessed "inner triangle" sections. Its also the first time I've noticed that the left and right subframes are not the same... What rearsets are you running? Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road Post by: dennisd on August 27, 2010, 05:36:44 AM Tact???? Guess I'll have to get out my dictionary and see what that is.
I was wondering about the rearsets also. They look similar to my Woodcraft. No really Raux, I'm impressed with the amount of work you've done. And I guess I need to say the same thing to you Ungeheuer. A toast to you both... [wine] Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road Post by: Raux on August 27, 2010, 09:45:48 AM originally I was going to mask the insets and not even polish them to avoid reflections. time/shop interaction with the paint shop, which there was none due to language barrier, put me where I'm at.
just had seen it done (paint) and in the end, liked it being more 'real' and not a faked hole. But maybe I'll grab some matt vinyl and check out the look. the rearsets are Style and Performance. There are passenger pegs as well that hang from the subframe, I just don't have them attached. thanks for all the kind words and also those lacking tact ;) Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road Post by: 00Kevin on August 27, 2010, 10:02:33 AM Wow dude.....that bike is hot! [bow_down] Really nice job.
Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road Post by: Raux on August 27, 2010, 10:28:13 AM maybe I should list what has been done
DP ECU Hiflo Airfilter enlarge airbox opening S&P 53/53mm triples S&P rearsets driver & passenger 1198 forks w/ ohlins springs and racetech goldvalves 1198 axle & axle nut (1 sbk & 1 monster spacer) Braking wave disks (320mm with 15mm offset) Woodcraft zerorise clipons Brembo goldline masters 916/996 era superbike fender M1100 shock mount clevis powdercoated swingarm powdercoated spring frame and subframe painted barend mirrors louis.de headlight and front turnsignals R&G tail tidy DP Billet steering stem nut Billet Alt inspection hole cover Lightweight steel sprocket Billet front sprocket cover removal of emissions removal of underfront bodywork 80's tankskin and matching seat cover (also have slightly scratched pearl white skins) DP Monster tank protector-center piece only painted black: exhaust hangers, rear brake mount, kickstand mount and various minor pieces changes yet to be done Ergal cam gears 1100 cams lightweight flywheel PC V larger airbox port & polish larger velocity stacks AL/CF open exhausts changes hope to do 848 front lights/mirrors/fairing 2 into 2 mid pipe stock layout or custom Carrozzeria rims with 4.5" rear Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road Post by: Raux on August 27, 2010, 10:30:07 AM Wow dude.....that bike is hot! [bow_down] Really nice job. thanks. Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road Post by: ngk12 on August 27, 2010, 10:53:26 AM changes hope to do 848 front lights/mirrors/fairing That's a very interesting idea. Have you seen it done, or is it just something you've been thinking about? Would the addition of tthe fairing necessitate an auxiliary cooling system (secondary or larger oil cooler)? Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road Post by: Chucko9-696 on August 27, 2010, 11:54:37 AM Your bike looks awesom dude!! [thumbsup]
Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road Post by: dennisd on August 27, 2010, 12:06:06 PM .... But maybe I'll grab some matt vinyl and check out the look. .... That's one reason I suggested it. It will be fairly easy for you to try and you will do the experimentation for me. That way I'll know what I want to do with mine. OBTW; if you do it, be sure to post pics for me to compare. [cheeky] [laugh] Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road Post by: stopintime on August 27, 2010, 12:39:28 PM This is how I "painted" over Raux' plan in a previous thread. (http://i329.photobucket.com/albums/l394/stopintime/Raux.jpg) (http://i329.photobucket.com/albums/l394/stopintime/Raux2.jpg) Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road Post by: mattc7 on August 27, 2010, 01:14:00 PM raux, if you haven't sourced 1100 cams, i have a set of dp cams im putting in, and will have the stock cams ready to go out (granted, I don't plan to make that swap until winter-time [and waspworks finally releases their damn PUK], but the race cams are already here waiting)
Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road Post by: DoWorkSon on August 27, 2010, 02:34:51 PM Raux, are you still going with an underseat exhaust like the 848?
Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road Post by: Raux on August 27, 2010, 09:32:39 PM I have the cams already waiting in the box. thanks for the offer. DuckStew set me up with these.
the underseat isn't my goal now. I'm thinking more of the streetfighter look or the SC zards ok i'll experiment with the vinyl the 848 front end is kinda straight forward. I need to put a mount for the aluminum frame on the steering head. Whether I make it permanent (welded) or removeable (clamped) is the question at this point. I've sized it up and it looks incredible. I have the lights, nose piece, corsa windscreen, dash mount, AL mount, and mirrors. There's no need for more cooling since it doesn't block the lower airflow. and with the decreased air speed behind the screen, should help with the breathing of the air intakes. I had thought about mounting an oilcooler up front in it like the old F1, but decided to go without the oil cooler since I didn't go up to the 803 Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road Post by: Duck-Stew on August 28, 2010, 07:07:17 PM Nicely done... VERY nicely done! [clap]
Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road Post by: dennisd on August 29, 2010, 11:49:45 AM I kinda like the bottom subframe that Stopintime worked up.
Hell, I don't know what I want. Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road Post by: Raux on August 29, 2010, 11:51:24 AM if you really study the lines of the subframe, it will come to you.
Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road Post by: ChrisH on August 29, 2010, 05:05:08 PM Your bike came out awesome man! Looks great!
Did removing the bikini fairing make a huge difference in wind for you when riding? I really want to remove mine, but haven't done it yet. Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road Post by: DucatiTorrey on August 29, 2010, 05:36:14 PM I just shit my pants. Very nice bike.
Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road Post by: Veloce-Fino on August 29, 2010, 06:14:33 PM I just shit my pants. Very nice bike. Are we stating facts or was this a spontaneous result of Raux's awesomeness? If the former, I farted while typing the bolded word. ;D Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road Post by: Raux on August 29, 2010, 06:34:08 PM Your bike came out awesome man! Looks great! Did removing the bikini fairing make a huge difference in wind for you when riding? I really want to remove mine, but haven't done it yet. i notice it in triple digits and close to that, but it's nice because it takes some of the weight off my hands. Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road Post by: Raux on August 29, 2010, 06:34:29 PM I just shit my pants. Very nice bike. please clean before riding Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road Post by: Raux on August 29, 2010, 06:34:51 PM Are we stating facts or was this a spontaneous result of Raux's awesomeness? If the former, I farted while typing the bolded word. ;D i expect no-smelly macaroni Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road Post by: Veloce-Fino on August 30, 2010, 08:30:40 AM Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road Post by: Raux on August 30, 2010, 09:04:04 AM ahhhhahhhhhahahah
PC V arrived today ;D just got it on the road and I'm ready to take it off and do the motor [bang] Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road Post by: Raux on August 31, 2010, 07:12:05 AM had some clutch slippage today.
thinking I need to check the freeplay on the clutch lever? Noticed there is none... opinions. Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road Post by: Howie on August 31, 2010, 08:16:59 AM Good place to start. 1 - 1.5 mm.
Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road Post by: stopintime on August 31, 2010, 09:27:29 AM had some clutch slippage today. thinking I need to check the freeplay on the clutch lever? Noticed there is none... opinions. Screw + lever part # 4 on page 62, US 696 parts catalogue (2009) [thumbsup] So, I assume that's a yes for your bike as well. Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road Post by: Raux on August 31, 2010, 06:34:32 PM I'm running older Brembo goldline masters. i can't see how they adjust
Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road Post by: DarkStaR on August 31, 2010, 09:31:07 PM I'm running older Brembo goldline masters. i can't see how they adjust If they are small pivot goldline masters, this is what you are looking for to adjust (clutch side looks a bit different due to switch): (http://www.af1racing.com/store/ProdImages/st3/af1-brembo_adjuster.jpg) Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road Post by: Raux on September 01, 2010, 10:21:38 AM ok thanks
i think i can do that Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road Post by: stopintime on September 01, 2010, 11:52:36 AM I've heard people struggling with the set screw - it's often tight and/or loctite'd.
You might need to heat it - IIRC. Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road Post by: Raux on September 01, 2010, 11:53:13 AM I've heard people struggling with the set screw - it's often tight and/or loctite'd. You might need to heat it - IIRC. k will probably try to tackle it saturday morning Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road Post by: dbran1949 on September 01, 2010, 03:03:30 PM Be very careful I still have the end of the allen key stuck in the set screw on my clutch lever
Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road Post by: hcomp on September 02, 2010, 06:53:52 PM Holy BuhJeezus Wow Raux! I go away for 2 weeks and you finished a masterpiece! Awesome work and the bike looks super badass!
Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road Post by: Raux on September 02, 2010, 07:20:18 PM Holy BuhJeezus Wow Raux! I go away for 2 weeks and you finished a masterpiece! Awesome work and the bike looks super badass! what the hell are you taking 2 weeks off for ;) thanks, Ryan. now looking at the pics, wish i was able to accomplish more of the changes I wanted. Sometimes I think it isn't changed enough to be considered custom Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road Post by: ungeheuer on September 02, 2010, 07:33:37 PM [roll] I told you to put that Volkswagen Beetle rear-end on it, but you wouldnt listen... "too radical" you said.... so now look at you..... [roll] [laugh]
Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road Post by: Veloce-Fino on September 04, 2010, 12:31:14 PM The people who "matter" will know how custom it is.
Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road Post by: Raux on September 06, 2010, 06:11:12 AM phew spent some hours on the bike today.
wrote a small report in the riding tech. threads. I think I need to change some things and add others. The zero rise bars are great... but a lot of work. It makes a great weekend bike but not such a great commuter. Gonna have to decide what I want from this bike, cause in this config, it definitely is not an all around bike. IF I keep the zero rise, I need a damper. It turns SO easily. I don't want to change my suspension and lighten the front, but the steering angle is steep and I want to be careful of headshake. IF I come up a couple of inches, I can forget modding further toward the 848 cause I doubt I'll have room for a rise. But it will make the bike easier for commuting. The exhaust need to be fixed soon. The stock just aren't cutting it. I finally fixed the lights, now have low and high beam instead of just high and high+low. Painted a few more bits and pieces as well. I didn't like the look of the silver front sprocket cover, so that's black now. and a few brackets that I had made are black after being raw until I had some black paint. PC V is next. Suppose I'll need the autotune unless I can source a shop with a Dyno and willing to let me use it for free ;) Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road Post by: Raux on September 06, 2010, 08:25:52 AM [bang] got a deal on the first part of the dry clutch conversion
brand new side case Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road & stage 2 Post by: ungeheuer on September 06, 2010, 08:57:53 PM brand new ...magnesium... sidecase??
Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road & stage 2 Post by: Raux on September 07, 2010, 11:48:18 AM brand new ... Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road & stage 2 Post by: ungeheuer on September 08, 2010, 03:03:03 AM .. so why the [bang] ?? did I miss something?
Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road & stage 2 Post by: Raux on September 08, 2010, 07:29:40 AM cause goign down another rabbit hole
Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road & stage 2 Post by: ungeheuer on September 08, 2010, 01:20:56 PM .... sooo... you shall no longer be known as TB, you shall henceforth be known as Ferret [laugh]
Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road & stage 2 Post by: Raux on September 08, 2010, 06:25:16 PM well i want a damn [ferret] symbol then, whoever makes these.
Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road & stage 2 Post by: DucatiTorrey on September 13, 2010, 04:36:30 PM zero rise bars? pics?
Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road & stage 2 Post by: Raux on September 13, 2010, 06:44:48 PM zero rise bars? pics? sorry, meant the clip ons. mounted under the triple with no risers. Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road & stage 2 Post by: DucatiTorrey on September 14, 2010, 02:19:30 PM sorry, meant the clip ons. mounted under the triple with no risers. ah yes, for a second i thought you got yourself some drag bars, if that worked i would have copied.Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road & stage 2 Post by: DucatiTorrey on September 21, 2010, 05:22:54 AM just a random question, is this the same style forks you used? hows the price here differ? im gonna have to read through again, may be a mod next summer for me, but gonna read again to see what went into this mod.
thanks DT http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/DUCATI-848-1098-1198-FRONT-FORKS-SUSPENSION-/300438597816?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item45f38930b8#ht_1147wt_941 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/DUCATI-848-1098-1198-FRONT-FORKS-SUSPENSION-/300438597816?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item45f38930b8#ht_1147wt_941) Title: Re: 696 rebuild - some good progress Post by: DucatiTorrey on September 21, 2010, 05:32:26 AM this is going to be super random, but i just got an idea, what if someone just added tips to the exhaust in the format? exit on both sides? anyone done this?
ash2/hs105.ash2/38591_103030646420339_100001402122676_21098_7296373_n.jpg[/img] (http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs105.ash2/38591_103030649753672_100001402122676_21099_5821135_n.jpg) Title: Re: 696 rebuild - some good progress Post by: dennisd on September 21, 2010, 05:57:55 AM this is going to be super random, but i just got an idea, what if someone just added tips to the exhaust in the format? exit on both sides? anyone done this? I've thought about that too. Making some minor baffling and tips to turn the ends slightly out and down. Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road & stage 2 Post by: Raux on September 21, 2010, 07:24:18 AM just a random question, is this the same style forks you used? hows the price here differ? im gonna have to read through again, may be a mod next summer for me, but gonna read again to see what went into this mod. thanks DT http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/DUCATI-848-1098-1198-FRONT-FORKS-SUSPENSION-/300438597816?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item45f38930b8#ht_1147wt_941 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/DUCATI-848-1098-1198-FRONT-FORKS-SUSPENSION-/300438597816?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item45f38930b8#ht_1147wt_941) yep same style but mine are from an 1198 Title: Re: 696 rebuild - some good progress Post by: Veloce-Fino on September 21, 2010, 07:41:57 AM I've thought about that too. Making some minor baffling and tips to turn the ends slightly out and down. Basically a more simple version of the H-Competition Exhaust... No mid-pipe replacement just a baffled tip like Ryan created for his exhaust. Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road & stage 2 Post by: DucatiTorrey on September 21, 2010, 08:30:29 AM so, anyone know if a speedymooto top triple and stock lower triple with fit the 1098 forks? do i need a new axle? what about breaks?
Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road & stage 2 Post by: Raux on September 21, 2010, 08:40:20 AM 1098 (plain jane 1098 not the Ohlins) forks are 53/53mm so you'll need the 53mm SM triple and spacer for the lowers (.5mm thick sleeve basically) I think motowheels sells them.
If you get Ohlins 1098S forks, forget the stock lower, but enough material from what I heard to go out the required 56mm but maybe someone has done it. Axle.. 1098 axle and bolt with (1) 1098 spacer and (1) monster spacer worked for me perfectly. Brakes... with stock wheel, you'll need 15mm offset 6-bolt rotor or 5mm spacers between stock brakes and wheel (I went with 15mm offset Braking rotors) Your stock calipers will work Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road & stage 2 Post by: DucatiTorrey on September 21, 2010, 09:57:20 AM 1098 (plain jane 1098 not the Ohlins) forks are 53/53mm so you'll need the 53mm SM triple and spacer for the lowers (.5mm thick sleeve basically) I think motowheels sells them. If you get Ohlins 1098S forks, forget the stock lower, but enough material from what I heard to go out the required 56mm but maybe someone has done it. Axle.. 1098 axle and bolt with (1) 1098 spacer and (1) monster spacer worked for me perfectly. Brakes... with stock wheel, you'll need 15mm offset 6-bolt rotor or 5mm spacers between stock brakes and wheel (I went with 15mm offset Braking rotors) Your stock calipers will work perfect thanks man, i was considering a new bike, more power etc for tw up riding, but i think a stiffer rear spring, 1100 rise in the back and this 1098 set up with be perfect, and little more ajustability and higher seat will be nice for the two of us Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road & stage 2 Post by: Raux on September 21, 2010, 10:15:03 AM i haven't ridden two up, but yeah the bike is taller for sure
and forks are awesome but need to set up some time with a suspension expert to set preload/damping/rebound Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road & stage 2 Post by: DucatiTorrey on September 21, 2010, 11:04:33 AM but need to set up some time with a suspension expert to set preload/damping/rebound absolutely, that is key Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road & stage 2 Post by: dennisd on September 24, 2010, 05:24:56 AM Hey, calling Raux.
I've been wanting to paint the lettering on my calipers also. I was going to do a light sanding with a sanding block so only the ends of the letters are sanded and then use a small artist brush to put Urethane on the very ends. Is that how you did it or did you find a better method? Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road & stage 2 Post by: Raux on September 24, 2010, 09:26:14 AM I used car touch up paint and a steady hand
Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road & stage 2 Post by: dennisd on September 24, 2010, 10:33:28 AM OK thanks. I have some of the Dupli-Color paint in Duc red left over from when I painted my headlight trim and sprocket carrier. It's a perfect match. [thumbsup]
My only problem is I'm 54 years old and a steady hand was about 25 years ago. [laugh] Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road & stage 2 Post by: Raux on September 24, 2010, 10:46:14 AM OK thanks. I have some of the Dupli-Color paint in Duc red left over from when I painted my headlight trim and sprocket carrier. It's a perfect match. [thumbsup] My only problem is I'm 54 years old and a steady hand was about 25 years ago. [laugh] take the calipers off, put them on a stool and have your wife do it.. bet she paints her nails all the time. just make sure to clean them well so there's no grease, dirt or brake fluid Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road & stage 2 Post by: Raux on September 25, 2010, 08:56:25 AM well I've put enough miles on it for things to start vibrating loose. Kickstand front bolt was loose. Noticed it at the gas station and rode home, put it on the rear stand to tighten... one more ride and it would have been gone...
time to check every bolt again. Need to buy a torque wrench. Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road & stage 2 Post by: DarkStaR on September 26, 2010, 06:44:18 PM ...and you need to update your sig line also. :P
Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road & stage 2 Post by: Veloce-Fino on September 26, 2010, 07:06:24 PM ...and you need to update your sig line also. :P Agreed, it's been bothering me. Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road & stage 2 Post by: Raux on September 26, 2010, 07:08:41 PM better? I'm sure there are things I've forgotten on the specs, sorry
Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road & stage 2 Post by: Raux on October 04, 2010, 11:20:53 AM [bang] Aluminum is not a very good material for a dash mount.
Mounting tabs broke at 100mph today. need to remake a template and get it done in steel. Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road & stage 2 Post by: stopintime on October 04, 2010, 12:21:18 PM [bang] Aluminum is not a very good material for a dash mount. Mounting tabs broke at 100mph today. need to remake a template and get it done in steel. From wind pressure alone? :o Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road & stage 2 Post by: Raux on October 04, 2010, 01:02:15 PM From wind pressure alone? :o well probably from vibration due to crappy roads near my house as they redo the normal ones. AND a few runs in the triple digits... well more than a few. noticed it today. the normal short vibrations went into long oscillations... i knew it wasn't right. I was going to make sure the bolts were tight when i got home.... never made it before the dash fell into the wires behind the light at 100mph :o well that was the last speed I saw before... anyway, learned to ride with no speedo and no tach ;) I think I was carrying higher corner speeds as I wasn't looking for indicators, but was feeling the bike better. Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road & stage 2 Post by: Raux on October 14, 2010, 12:24:10 AM Was able to get a mount built before thursday's (last) safety day. got some pics back... really the first pics of me riding the new setup.
I need to get a short front brake line. (http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs883.snc4/71655_121161401273930_100001402122676_130022_5986866_n.jpg) and really need to start phase 2 which will include a custom exhaust (http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs903.snc4/71655_121161404607263_100001402122676_130023_3229172_n.jpg) but the ride height change with new rearsets... tons of clearance. need to get a new kickstand (Mark ;) ) that will hopefully give a bit more clearance. Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road & stage 2 Post by: Veloce-Fino on October 14, 2010, 09:27:43 AM Looking good!!
+1 on the new kickstand. Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road & stage 2 Post by: Raux on November 14, 2010, 08:17:24 AM Mounted the white skins back on for inspection so should have some nice photos.
Also bought some smaller rear signals matching the front ones. tuck in real nice under the seat. pics pending. Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road & stage 2 Post by: Veloce-Fino on November 14, 2010, 04:03:13 PM [popcorn]
Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road & stage 2 Post by: Raux on July 04, 2011, 10:56:22 AM stage 2 has started...
2 into 2 custom exhaust is first up with PC V [evil] think Zard's sport classic hi/lo split with stock monster routing :D Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road & stage 2 Post by: 696DCRider on July 04, 2011, 12:06:57 PM Liking it. [popcorn]
stage 2 has started... 2 into 2 custom exhaust is first up with PC V [evil] think Zard's sport classic hi/lo split with stock monster routing :D Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road & stage 2 Post by: stopintime on July 04, 2011, 12:08:11 PM .......... think Zard's sport classic hi/lo split with stock monster routing :D I can't think - I need pictures 8) Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road & stage 2 Post by: 2-Skinny on July 04, 2011, 12:55:49 PM stage 2 has started... 2 into 2 custom exhaust is first up with PC V [evil] think Zard's sport classic hi/lo split with stock monster routing :D Are you routing under cases for horizontal cylinder because that would be awesome... Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road & stage 2 Post by: Raux on July 04, 2011, 01:28:48 PM using stock headers for both cyl.
horizontal will stay high right side. vertical will curl under motor and out right side behind rearset Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road & stage 2 Post by: Raux on July 05, 2011, 01:35:43 PM ending up using the front head pipe from another bike at the curve near the top of my right boot.. happen to land perfect with the front exhaust shield mounts on that pipe :D looks very cool.
the top exhaust midpipe is welded up. gotta clean it all up. not a professional job, but it will work. nice snake look to it. it comes out wrapping around the higher mounted brake fluid reservior, so I may throw some shielding on that as well. going to measure the pipe length tomorrow and start matching up the low pipe routing, probably will have to make it into two parts to ease assembly. oh and decided no pics until complete. [evil] Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road & stage 2 Post by: stopintime on July 05, 2011, 01:41:37 PM Tease >:( Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road & stage 2 Post by: ungeheuer on July 06, 2011, 04:44:42 AM [popcorn]
[drool] [popcorn] Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road & stage 2 Post by: Raux on July 09, 2011, 12:35:54 PM I need a stock front exhaust shield and mounting hardware... anyone got one around?
Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road & stage 2 Post by: Veloce-Fino on July 11, 2011, 04:04:50 PM I need a stock front exhaust shield and mounting hardware... anyone got one around? That little shield on the horizontal cylinder pipe? I've got one. No hardware though, used it for the CF one. Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road & stage 2 Post by: Raux on July 11, 2011, 09:00:47 PM That little shield on the horizontal cylinder pipe? I've got one. No hardware though, used it for the CF one. yep that's the one. pm sent. Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road & stage 2 Post by: Raux on July 11, 2011, 09:08:16 PM started work on the horizontal and decided to cut up one of my extra 696 rear header pipes to reroute it. the stock curve is just too difficult to take back down under the motor. so not exactly the route i wanted, but still clean.
in fact, measured out the horiz cyl and this new rear routing will be the correct length anyway with only one connection instead of the funky two with a half moon routing i would have needed. oh and remapped the PC V with the euro version termi with no db killer. so when I mount it, it will be be a close match to the changes. although with the true 2 into 2 I still need to get onto a dyno, but going to hold off til i do the port and polish and airbox changes. the extra horiz shield i need is for the low pipe as it comes out near where my ankle would be at a stop light, the last extra horiz header I had sacrificed itself for that mount. so it also looks like I'll have a 696 midpipe left over. I'll be putting that in the for sale section when I'm finished Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road & stage 2 Post by: thought on July 12, 2011, 04:06:07 AM so it also looks like I'll have a 696 midpipe left over. I'll be putting that in the for sale section when I'm finished i want! Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road & stage 2 Post by: Raux on July 12, 2011, 04:52:14 AM i want! I'll pm you when I'm done (and certain I don't need it for parts [evil]) Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road & stage 2 Post by: thought on July 12, 2011, 05:58:29 AM I'll pm you when I'm done (and certain I don't need it for parts [evil]) thanks man [thumbsup] and get those pics up soon... stop being such a tease ;) Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road & stage 2 Post by: hcomp on July 12, 2011, 12:47:20 PM I have the stock mounting hardware for the exhaust shield. Do you want silver, black, or titanium?
Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road & stage 2 Post by: Raux on July 12, 2011, 01:47:57 PM veloce is sending me the shield
i just need the two clips and associated nuts bolts spacer washers Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road & stage 2 Post by: Raux on July 12, 2011, 02:04:08 PM well, ok here is a tease. mind you, mid-build. Upper is 95%, lower is 50%.
(http://img7.werkenntwen.de/photo14/f7cf2574c9cc8f2301758520b49bb07c/6/q/6qul7lyrub6a3chj2h0aqk9xt7z.jpg) (http://img18.werkenntwen.de/photo14/f7cf2574c9cc8f2301758520b49bb07c/q/n/qnz3wmgs7wx75jp1j7gmah6wygl.jpg) Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road & stage 2 Post by: thought on July 12, 2011, 03:12:23 PM high mount shotguns? s2r style? [thumbsup]
Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road & stage 2 Post by: Raux on July 14, 2011, 02:08:50 PM [evil]
Started IT up today in the shop. It's just evil. low thump thump thump on idle. didn't even get past 1500k due to being nearly 11pm local pics and videos hopefully tomorrow. the shop owner and I looked at each other and smiled... then said.. where are those baffles ;) Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road & stage 2 Post by: Raux on July 15, 2011, 12:38:58 PM ok bike is home.
i definitely need the baffles... i swear you could hear this thing a few kilometers away at full throttle. but for the first time i'm not hearing the rush of wind ;D and man it is pretty. expect pics and videos tomorrow, it's 10pm here and i think i woke up 3 towns coming home. Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road & stage 2 Post by: Raux on July 16, 2011, 04:12:18 AM Went for a ride. I had added the O2 modifiers from the PC V for now and hadn't put the whole PC V on. Basically they are the same as the FatDuc for the older bikes, telling the bike to run at 13.6 AFR as compared to stock which is more lean. BUT I think it's an issue with the new exhaust. At low throttle cruising for longer periods the engine liight comes on, if I sit and let it cool just a bit (O2 sensors I suspect) then there are no lights. And riding in twisties with throttle fluctuating, ie not always just sitting in the closed loop area, no light...
But here are the pics. (http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/281560_190195214370548_100001402122676_491817_4521052_n.jpg) (http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/282785_190195387703864_100001402122676_491818_1051313_n.jpg) (http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/284025_190195537703849_100001402122676_491819_8192204_n.jpg) (http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/284265_190195701037166_100001402122676_491820_908123_n.jpg) Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road & stage 2 Post by: koko64 on July 16, 2011, 05:28:34 AM Nice work Raux.
Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road & stage 2 Post by: Veloce-Fino on July 16, 2011, 07:18:12 AM Looks great!
Did you do the fab work yourself? That heat shield should be there in a week or so depending on customs. Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road & stage 2 Post by: Raux on July 16, 2011, 10:14:13 AM Looks great! Did you do the fab work yourself? That heat shield should be there in a week or so depending on customs. thanks guys. I was nervous about this, so I kept a complete stock setup. I did all the cutting on everything except the first ones on the top. I don't know how to weld yet so the local guy did the welding, then I cleaned them up and designed the mounts, etc. thanks for the shield. you can see why i need the third one. Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road & stage 2 Post by: stopintime on July 16, 2011, 10:30:15 AM This is an advanced mod [thumbsup] Italians will love it - they seek individual fabrication 8)
Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road & stage 2 Post by: thought on July 16, 2011, 02:54:55 PM looks awesome man :D
Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road & stage 2 Post by: emanon on July 16, 2011, 04:37:57 PM I have a colleague in Germany and when he was here last summer indicated that German law is very strict on modifications to motor vehicles, especially the exhaust. Was my colleague full of shit or did you find a loop hole in the laws?
Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road & stage 2 Post by: Raux on July 17, 2011, 12:57:27 AM I have a colleague in Germany and when he was here last summer indicated that German law is very strict on modifications to motor vehicles, especially the exhaust. Was my colleague full of shit or did you find a loop hole in the laws? US Government registration is different ;) but everything I've done is reversible. THere are plenty of Germans running Termis etc on their bikes. They just change them out to stock for their inspections. but we still can get fix it tickets. Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road & stage 2 Post by: asherrick on July 17, 2011, 04:15:25 AM Wow! Great job, Raux!
Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road & stage 2 Post by: ungeheuer on July 18, 2011, 09:54:13 PM (http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/281560_190195214370548_100001402122676_491817_4521052_n.jpg) Raux, I love what you're doing with this bike - beautiful and truly unique [clap] [clap] [clap] [clap] [clap].(http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/282785_190195387703864_100001402122676_491818_1051313_n.jpg) But please... lose the headlight "over-bite" and then it would be more beautiful and less unique [thumbsup]. Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road & stage 2 Post by: Raux on July 19, 2011, 08:30:56 AM well I have an idea. I picked up an S2R Monster windscreen that fits it as is. If I move it in... it's a no go....
it's red right now. Have to test fit it, take a pic Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road Post by: stopintime on July 19, 2011, 09:25:49 AM .......................... the 848 front end is kinda straight forward. I need to put a mount for the aluminum frame on the steering head. Whether I make it permanent (welded) or removeable (clamped) is the question at this point. I've sized it up and it looks incredible. I have the lights, nose piece, corsa windscreen, dash mount, AL mount, and mirrors. There's no need for more cooling since it doesn't block the lower airflow. and with the decreased air speed behind the screen, should help with the breathing of the air intakes. I had thought about mounting an oilcooler up front in it like the old F1, but decided to go without the oil cooler since I didn't go up to the 803 [coffee] Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road Post by: Raux on July 19, 2011, 09:33:37 AM [coffee] yeah yeah.. i know this was supposed to have been an interim fix. ran into funds issues on the getting the clamp CNC'd and support from a shop that had one. I was just thinking an interim fix for the windscreen as well as the light... Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road & stage 2 Post by: stopintime on July 19, 2011, 09:42:14 AM Do what you can, when you want [thumbsup]
The idea and the pictures just seemed so spot on. Does the S*R windscreen mount to your headlight bolts? Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road & stage 2 Post by: Raux on July 19, 2011, 09:47:39 AM Do what you can, when you want [thumbsup] The idea and the pictures just seemed so spot on. Does the S*R windscreen mount to your headlight bolts? i picked up with with the perfect brackets.. just need to pick up some windscreen screws. Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road & stage 2 Post by: Raux on July 19, 2011, 12:40:13 PM (http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/284328_191787810877955_100001402122676_496990_1092030_n.jpg)
(http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/283034_191788027544600_100001402122676_496991_5936184_n.jpg) (http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/281801_191788180877918_100001402122676_496992_2720829_n.jpg) (http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/285527_191788340877902_100001402122676_496993_5763914_n.jpg) Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road & stage 2 Post by: stopintime on July 19, 2011, 01:24:10 PM It's not perfect, but it looks better with it than without.
Standard headlight to match things up? Silver paint? Leave some red in the middle? Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road & stage 2 Post by: Triple J on July 19, 2011, 03:03:14 PM Umm, no.
It looks OK in the 2nd picture. But any view looking from the front is terrible. It's obvious the headlight doesn't match the windscreen. The new exhaust is very cool. [thumbsup] Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road & stage 2 Post by: Veloce-Fino on July 19, 2011, 08:12:54 PM Ehh.. I'd leave the windscreen off... for sure.
Cut those damn headlight brackets and stick that light in tight to the forks!!! Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road & stage 2 Post by: Raux on July 21, 2011, 10:36:44 AM http://new01.ugc.ducati.kontain.com/video/20110721/prod_da32f2d7-8ce2-4a6e-b4d4-4bc0a64663ff/af40f15c-7062-4864-8d6d-41fb5d5e862c.mp4 (http://new01.ugc.ducati.kontain.com/video/20110721/prod_da32f2d7-8ce2-4a6e-b4d4-4bc0a64663ff/af40f15c-7062-4864-8d6d-41fb5d5e862c.mp4)
Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road & stage 2 Post by: thought on July 21, 2011, 12:35:24 PM damn, that sounds awesome... and pretty freaking loud haha
Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road & stage 2 Post by: Raux on July 28, 2011, 12:27:43 PM alright already...
just ordered these (http://cdn4.louis.de/shop/img250/10020938-945.JPG) Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road & stage 2 Post by: Veloce-Fino on July 28, 2011, 03:57:36 PM alright already... just ordered these Haha, Finally!! No more protruding cyclops headlight! Should look great! Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road & stage 2 Post by: thought on July 28, 2011, 04:22:48 PM haha, cant wait to see pics of it all cleaned up
Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road & stage 2 Post by: ungeheuer on July 28, 2011, 04:54:44 PM alright already... [clap]just ordered these (http://cdn4.louis.de/shop/img250/10020938-945.JPG) [popcorn] Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road & stage 2 Post by: danaid on July 28, 2011, 08:49:20 PM Suck that windscreen in tighter and it'll work. [thumbsup]
Those exhaust look good, now get them ceramic coated. Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road & stage 2 Post by: Raux on July 28, 2011, 08:51:32 PM Suck that windscreen in tighter and it'll work. [thumbsup] Those exhaust look good, now get them ceramic coated. don't think the windscreen is staying as it won't fit with the tighter mounts. i'll be throwing that on the for sale board eventually Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road & stage 2 Post by: Travman on July 29, 2011, 07:41:39 AM alright already... Those headlight brackets look sharp. Do you have a link for them?just ordered these (http://cdn4.louis.de/shop/img250/10020938-945.JPG) Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road & stage 2 Post by: Raux on July 29, 2011, 10:07:54 AM Those headlight brackets look sharp. Do you have a link for them? they are LSLon phone so don't. have link Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road & stage 2 Post by: Veloce-Fino on July 29, 2011, 09:12:18 PM Those headlight brackets look sharp. Do you have a link for them? http://spieglerusa.com/lsl-headlight-brackets-3274.htm (http://spieglerusa.com/lsl-headlight-brackets-3274.htm) Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road & stage 2 Post by: DucatiTorrey on July 30, 2011, 08:49:02 AM raux, amazing work, i love it. Headlight is the sole bad spot, but its not bad, cant wait to see what the new one will look like, I was unsure of the chrome look on the pipes, but its awesome now that ive seen more views. And the sound! :o
keep it up man, amazing. Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road & stage 2 Post by: Raux on August 02, 2011, 12:23:05 PM put db killers in. didn't think it could sound better but it does, not so cracky, more bass, more oomph
idle is still a bit lumpy but better. suspect it's running too rich with the dynojet pc v optimizers. i'll take them out when the headlight bracket comes in... why... cause gotta take off the tank to take off the top triple anyway, below the tank is where the optimizer connections are. new bracket isn't 2 piece mount :( windscreen is staying also til the new mounts arrive. i hope i don't get spoiled Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road & stage 2 Post by: Raux on August 03, 2011, 08:54:47 AM well ride went well today. the db killers solved the idle AND the engine light from the O2 sensors. guess the added backpressure is what it needed.
the idle is smooth at 1200rpm when warm. throttle response is good and seems there is a bit more tq available. so gonna keep the optimizers and go ahead with the PC V install. windscreen was nice at 200 km/h. [bang] I'll need to rethink this. Maybe the small silked windscreen from DP would look good. But once the new brackets get in, the big one won't even be close to fitting. FREAKING RAINED TODAY. 2 1/2 days of sunshine is 5 weeks+ Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road & stage 2 Post by: 2-Skinny on August 03, 2011, 10:05:47 AM DoWorkSon has the Barracuda windscreen in the for sale section for cheap- I think it is similar to the DP one...
Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road & stage 2 Post by: Raux on August 03, 2011, 10:15:13 AM DoWorkSon has the Barracuda windscreen in the for sale section for cheap- I think it is similar to the DP one... yeah saw it but its too angular for my styleTitle: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road & stage 2 Post by: Raux on August 04, 2011, 09:06:10 AM package arrived today with LSL parts
Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road & stage 2 Post by: DoWorkSon on August 04, 2011, 09:20:34 AM I would love that exhaust setup but maybe with different cans... Like the comp werks ones that are on bellisimotos s4r project bike. Something a little shorter
Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road & stage 2 Post by: Raux on August 04, 2011, 02:40:53 PM and here are the pics of the new headlight bracket from LSL
(http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/262591_199262850130451_100001402122676_522290_7516770_n.jpg) (http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/283440_199262966797106_100001402122676_522292_3079647_n.jpg) (http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/252126_199263250130411_100001402122676_522295_6642968_n.jpg) had to remove the top triple and clipons just to get the bracket on there... [bang] Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road & stage 2 Post by: Raux on August 04, 2011, 02:45:56 PM I would love that exhaust setup but maybe with different cans... Like the comp werks ones that are on bellisimotos s4r project bike. Something a little shorter they are pretty short, there are two lengths of these type of cans and I got the shorter ones. The Comp werks... if they are anything like there short tail in quality... [thumbsdown] the Bellisimoto setup is nice, but I think the cans are backwards, ie the top should stick out further, not the bottom like it is. Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road & stage 2 Post by: DukeDenver on August 04, 2011, 05:52:14 PM HOLY BACON SANDWICH BATMAN IS THAT HEADLIGHT CLOSER TO THE BIKE?? [laugh] [laugh] [laugh]
Nice job Raux, very jealous at how well you are with bike mods [thumbsup] Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road & stage 2 Post by: Veloce-Fino on August 04, 2011, 08:35:26 PM Looks INFINITELY better than before.
I really like that headlight now. Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road & stage 2 Post by: Raux on August 04, 2011, 09:06:01 PM thanks. i just didnt want to spend 119 euro at the time.
guess it would have been worth it to stop all the freaking bucktooth jokes :( Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road & stage 2 Post by: ungeheuer on August 05, 2011, 04:44:42 AM Its official. I now like everything about your bike. Especially the exhaust.
You Sir, do indeed have a build ;) Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road & stage 2 Post by: koko64 on August 05, 2011, 01:36:35 PM Nice work. Best 696 [clap].
Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road & stage 2 Post by: Raux on August 05, 2011, 01:55:40 PM Thanks.... wish I could have taken it to Indy to compete.
Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road & stage 2 Post by: Raux on September 14, 2011, 11:50:42 AM Couple of small changes,
Picked up the DP smoked windscreen, fits the new look very well. pics coming, probalbly after the weekend Ducati Belgium meet ;D also, I changed the sweep on the clip ons a few degrees, much better feel and not as much of a stretch. will also help with the DP tankbag. it's meant to be on a bike with bars not clipsons below the triple, so it's a bit tall, but I can still reach with comfort now with the few degree change. Plan on entering their contest on Sunday... so we'll see. Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road & stage 2 Post by: DukeDenver on September 14, 2011, 03:10:05 PM best of luck Raux, look forward to the pictures
Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road & stage 2 Post by: ungeheuer on September 15, 2011, 05:32:35 AM best of luck Raux, look forward to the pictures +1[popcorn] Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road & stage 2 Post by: Raux on September 19, 2011, 12:08:10 AM Well the bike won Best New Monster! ;D
Early morning. Half the bikes that were in the garage are gone already. Thanks mine on the left. (http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/309862_220139721376097_100001402122676_590960_1654737857_n.jpg) sorry about the crappy cell phone pic more pics later. Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road & stage 2 Post by: ungeheuer on September 19, 2011, 02:45:08 AM Well the bike won Best New Monster! ;D Congrats [clap]Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road & stage 2 Post by: Raux on September 19, 2011, 04:17:17 AM These are photos from the arrival at the place a few of us stayed at. Geoff is in there with the snazzy black Ducati sweater I want desperately (not off his back of course)
Arriving in Buggenhout - Son was the packmule [evil] I'm explaining how I was stopped by the Belgium police for not have a license plate... didn't know I didn't have a license plate. Somehow vibrated off after crossing the border. But I did speed up after that stop... figured, speed cameras [cheeky] go ahead and take pics of my ass. (http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/313138_10150812631620223_153753890222_20623192_1455224051_n.jpg) And yes, I can see the speedo that way (http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/320723_10150812631960223_153753890222_20623197_1786299319_n.jpg) you should see me helmet face shield [puke] (http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/308262_10150812632415223_153753890222_20623208_2051114388_n.jpg) Me putting the bike in line. The Monster on the far right won Best Old Monster. (http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/317198_10150812632930223_153753890222_20623214_1835978505_n.jpg) Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road & stage 2 Post by: Raux on September 24, 2011, 02:26:02 PM (http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/299698_223024084420994_100001402122676_599313_428080389_n.jpg)
this is a cool angle Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road & stage 2 Post by: DucHead on September 24, 2011, 03:57:24 PM Lookin' good.
Now, 5-spoke wheels with some color. 8) Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road & stage 2 Post by: mattc7 on September 24, 2011, 10:09:36 PM Thanks.... wish I could have taken it to Indy to compete. Would have been great to see you there. I am really feeling that exhaust setup, and the headlight is so much nicer in tight. Yours is my second favorite new monster by far, second to mine, but I'm biased. Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road & stage 2 Post by: Raux on September 24, 2011, 11:08:05 PM Indy would have been awesome
I've been wanting a special set of either carrozzeria or oz with 4.5in rear but funds just aren't there Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road & stage 2 Post by: geoffduc on September 27, 2011, 12:42:47 AM Jerry forget Indy you've got a big weekend at Misano next year... [wine] [wine] [wine]
Theres always the garage contest at Wow-D-Wow... ;) ;) Geoff... [coffee] Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road & stage 2 Post by: stopintime on September 27, 2011, 01:15:47 AM Jerry forget Indy you've got a big weekend at Misano next year... [wine] [wine] [wine] Theres always the garage contest at Wow-D-Wow... ;) ;) Geoff... [coffee] Ducati recently said there are no plans for a 2012 WDW ??? Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road & stage 2 Post by: NateNewThread on September 27, 2011, 04:17:08 PM Nice bike man!
Where did you get these slick looking headlight brackets? (http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y37/Alucardbomb/308262_10150812632415223_153753890222_20623208_2051114388_n.jpg) Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road & stage 2 Post by: Raux on September 27, 2011, 09:17:22 PM http://www.lsl-motorradtechnik.de/php/index.php?l=de (http://www.lsl-motorradtechnik.de/php/index.php?l=de)
LSL how's your German? This is where I ordered them from http://www.louis.de/_20c8fd24117c7a43bb6a860729ec310af8/index.php?topic=artnr_gr&article_context=detail&grwgr=490&wgr=408&list_total=1&anzeige=0&artnr_gr=10020938 (http://www.louis.de/_20c8fd24117c7a43bb6a860729ec310af8/index.php?topic=artnr_gr&article_context=detail&grwgr=490&wgr=408&list_total=1&anzeige=0&artnr_gr=10020938) But had to call LSL to get the correct size in stock. Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road & stage 2 Post by: Raux on September 27, 2011, 09:18:58 PM Ducati recently said there are no plans for a 2012 WDW ??? have they missed one yet? Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road & stage 2 Post by: DoWorkSon on September 28, 2011, 05:27:26 AM Spiegler Performance parts also sells them for the USA folks
http://spieglerusa.com/lights-indicators/headlights-by-lsl.html (http://spieglerusa.com/lights-indicators/headlights-by-lsl.html) Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road & stage 2 Post by: stopintime on September 28, 2011, 06:30:03 AM have they missed one yet? I believe the 2010 was supposed to have been in 2009 - assuming it's a biannual thing. They answered my email and said no plans were made, but that does of course not mean it can't happen. Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road & stage 2 Post by: Raux on October 01, 2011, 09:28:17 AM Another photo from Belgium meet. A lone American surrounded by Brits.
(http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6167/6193326522_8277ec03b3.jpg) this side looks cool with no exhaust Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road & stage 2 Post by: Veloce-Fino on October 10, 2011, 03:36:26 PM Another photo from Belgium meet. A lone American surrounded by Brits. (http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6167/6193326522_8277ec03b3.jpg) this side looks cool with no exhaust Looks awesome. That windscreen really fits well. Were the Brits impressed by your mechanical skill and ability to properly speak english? ;D Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road & stage 2 Post by: Raux on October 10, 2011, 08:43:47 PM Thanks. yeah i too think the windscreen ended up looking perfect
and as far as english... some of their accents were so strong i had trouble understanding them Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road & stage 2 Post by: geoffduc on October 10, 2011, 10:31:04 PM Looks awesome. That windscreen really fits well. We're the Brits impressed by your mechanical skill and ability to properly speak english? ;D Well first off his mechanical skill, He won the best new style monster award but up untill now hasn't posted any pics... [bang] And secondly yes we did under stand him but I think he struggled to under stand some of our accents... ;) ;) Geoff... [coffee] Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road & stage 2 Post by: Raux on October 11, 2011, 08:32:40 AM Well first off his mechanical skill, He won the best new style monster award but up untill now hasn't posted any pics... [bang] I'm thinking of not posting just to cont seeing you askingAnd secondly yes we did under stand him but I think he struggled to under stand some of our accents... ;) ;) Geoff... [coffee] Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road & stage 2 Post by: Raux on November 27, 2011, 12:37:27 PM Finally got a chance to get a photo shoot done and working on a video. Just for fun.
(http://sphotos-a.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/374790_251975578192511_106810524_n.jpg) (http://sphotos-g.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/387174_251975754859160_776826365_n.jpg) (http://sphotos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/302249_251976034859132_97026742_n.jpg) (http://sphotos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/383831_251976254859110_100001402122676_693238_448320107_n.jpg) (http://sphotos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/378045_251976781525724_100001402122676_693241_1743280925_n.jpg) (http://sphotos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/381848_251976578192411_100001402122676_693240_1205594622_n.jpg) Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road & stage 2 Post by: Curmudgeon on November 27, 2011, 01:12:10 PM Nice choice of backdrop! Next come back when it's making steam. ;) Which windshield is that and how effective is it compared to stock, especially turbulence? Looking good!!! (http://gallery.leica-users.org/d/63069-3/LUG255.jpg) Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road & stage 2 Post by: Raux on November 27, 2011, 02:17:34 PM That's the DP shield. Bit taller than stock. plus for me it mounts directly on the dash and not on the light like the original because i'm using a custom light and mount.
The train is a museum piece in front of the rail works in Kaiserslautern. Every time I've driven past it I had thought about how this would look. Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road & stage 2 Post by: Raux on January 21, 2012, 09:46:11 AM Finally got around to getting the rear matching wave rotor mounted and new Ferodo Platinum pads all around.
(http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/394922_284730181583717_100001402122676_779787_738588933_n.jpg) Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road & stage 2 Post by: Raux on January 21, 2012, 09:49:29 AM oh and one of the rear sprocket nuts was finger tight :o good thing I checked
Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road & stage 2 Post by: Raux on March 10, 2012, 06:53:15 AM New 1" longer bars, mirrors and grips. Also Ram mount for GPS on left bar.
(http://sphotos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/423452_317341434989258_100001402122676_858739_179799855_n.jpg) (http://sphotos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/423521_317341518322583_100001402122676_858740_527270030_n.jpg) got tired of looking at the low end of the bar for mirrors. Still thinking about pulling the forks through 1" and putting the clipons above the triple. Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road & stage 2 Post by: Stabel1 on March 10, 2012, 10:35:32 AM Love your bike, especially the exhaust.
Any problems with the TÜV due to your modifications? Or don´t you have to take the technical inspection, since you are with the army (i guess). And you license tag isn´t our regular size either....want have... Klaus Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road & stage 2 Post by: Raux on March 10, 2012, 12:03:31 PM Love your bike, especially the exhaust. Any problems with the TÜV due to your modifications? Or don´t you have to take the technical inspection, since you are with the army (i guess). And you license tag isn´t our regular size either....want have... Klaus yeah no TUV. just Db limits. but i switch to stock for inspection time. plate size is US military standard here. Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road & stage 2 Post by: Link on March 10, 2012, 12:37:10 PM Congrats on the win ! Your bike is sick, my fav is of course the front end, the front brake master cyl. is a nice touch I imagine stoppies with one finger, not only have you built one of a kind you've helped a lot of us out with your all your posts. Hope to see it with those new wheels you mentioned.
Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road & stage 2 Post by: Raux on March 10, 2012, 02:04:10 PM Actually I almost picked up a set of radial brake/clutch masters from a SF. missed them by that much
thanks for the kind words. yeah the wheels. no one makes 4.5" aftermarket rears. so sticking with stock for now. besides don't have 1800 to drop on wheels right now Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road & stage 2 Post by: Raux on March 14, 2012, 07:24:32 AM Lightweight Billet Fly wheel from Gotham Cycles on the way [Dolph]
Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road & stage 2 Post by: Nottsbiker on March 16, 2012, 04:49:16 AM Love the exhausts mate - reminds me of two stroke GP bikes with unequal length expansion chambers [thumbsup]
Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road & stage 2 Post by: Raux on March 16, 2012, 06:30:44 AM Love the exhausts mate - reminds me of two stroke GP bikes with unequal length expansion chambers [thumbsup] [/quote appreciate the kind words. Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road & stage 2 Post by: Raux on March 23, 2012, 07:26:42 AM Flywheel arrived - Holy crap this thing is light.
Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road & stage 2 Post by: Raux on April 17, 2012, 01:25:02 PM wellllll FINALLY back in the shop for some motor upgrades and maintenance
valve check and adjustment 1100 cams lightweight flywheel Hypermotard 1100S starter gear (drilled for lightness from the factory) ergal cam gears oil change G2 Throttle tamer complete the install of the PC V hope my LED signals get in tomorrow, but not holding my breath oh and found some pin holes in the welds on the 2 into 2 pipes so gonna fix those. might fix that cel error i was getting with no db killers. Thinking of painted the valve inspection covers and cam covers red... what do you think? like this photoshop (http://img3.werkenntwen.de/photo10/84f32b5d202f7cd07e0832ea0022b2b6/2/q/2qjtuqoj1uskurcg7nofih16zys.jpg) Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road & stage 2 Post by: stopintime on April 17, 2012, 01:34:56 PM G2 Throttle tamer Thinking of painted the valve inspection covers and cam covers red... Tamer no ??? Red covers yes [thumbsup] Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road & stage 2 Post by: Nottsbiker on April 18, 2012, 04:48:32 AM Maybe use some red wrinkle paint like is used on Honda Type-R rocker covers [beer]
Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road & stage 2 Post by: Raux on April 18, 2012, 09:23:18 AM since the covers are actually plastic. I found some paint made for it. gloss red and put about 3 coats of gloss clear to help protect the front ones.
Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road & stage 2 Post by: Nottsbiker on April 18, 2012, 10:02:40 AM Sorry I thought they'd be made out of cast iron like on my uber modern 900 [thumbsup]
Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road & stage 2 Post by: Raux on April 18, 2012, 10:27:54 AM Sorry I thought they'd be made out of cast iron like on my uber modern 900 [thumbsup] nope, weigh nothing too. Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road & stage 2 Post by: ungeheuer on April 19, 2012, 04:52:56 AM red valve gear covers etc look good [thumbsup]
Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road & stage 2 Post by: Raux on April 19, 2012, 01:55:03 PM Frikin eh
horizpntl cam cover is toast the cam gear nuts were a pregnant dog and trying to hold the cam bnt the cm cove and shattered the inner inspection hole oh and in case your wondering 1100 cam covers are not the same size onside so now i have to nother cam cover i had and paint it an hope the dage it has is minor enough to use Vert valves openers were loose so fixed that. closers were good horiz closers are too tight so gotta get tthose change then get the openers pc v is on. the way they want you to run the harnes is ass backwards so i ran it the other side. yep cables too short so had to extend one and geound at the battsry instead Valves covers are painted and look hot. cam covers will be later Flywheel needs to be done next ugh forgot the frustration Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road & stage 2 Post by: Raux on April 20, 2012, 11:59:55 AM Fixed the horizontal cam cover. dremel is your friend.
flywheel is in (pregnant dog of a time) same with the ergal cam gears. those high tq nuts are a PAIN. Ducati specific tools are your friend too (needless to say oh, have an 1100 compatible lighteweight starter gear available. thought it was compatible but wasn't. bike is mostly back together just need to finish the horizontal valves. button those up, adjust the belt, and cover, tighten up the front exhaust... and pray all is right. OH and put in oil.. almost forgot myself [bang] then hit start. [Dolph] check all the settings. and see how the lightweight motor changes and PCV make a difference. Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road & stage 2 Post by: Raux on April 21, 2012, 03:34:57 AM alright all back together. but with issues.
posted in tech since this might affect others. zero-5% throttle hesitation/stuttering http://www.ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=56616.0 (http://www.ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=56616.0) fixed with adjusting idle screws. bike idles now at 1200... no off hesitation off the line. hibeam indicator on with RPM changes http://www.ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=56615.0 (http://www.ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=56615.0) couldn't duplicate in the dry... will check connectors for water later Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road & stage 2 Post by: rozer on April 21, 2012, 05:09:42 AM Raux, I don't want to tread jack but I have a quick question;
Do you know if you can remove the bolt between the Trellis and the subframe while the bike is still on it's wheels? I'm planning on anodize the bolt black or replace it with the item from the new Monster Diesel. Since you are the only one I know of who took apart the frame I thought I'd ask you. Thanks! Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road & stage 2 Post by: Raux on April 21, 2012, 05:16:10 AM Raux, I don't want to tread jack but I have a quick question; it is a cover screw designed lock in the position of the fram boltDo you know if you can remove the bolt between the Trellis and the subframe while the bike is still on it's wheels? I'm planning on anodize the bolt black or replace it with the item from the new Monster Diesel. Since you are the only one I know of who took apart the frame I thought I'd ask you. Thanks! just unscrew it if it was over tq‘d you may end up back the frame bolt a bit don't panic Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road & stage 2 Post by: rozer on April 21, 2012, 05:35:30 AM Many thanks for the quick info. [thumbsup]
Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road & stage 2 Post by: Raux on May 10, 2012, 11:35:01 AM [bang]
FRICKING clutch won't bleed, air is trapped again. OIL leak still not stopped on the horizontal cam cover wife says "it's because you take that thing apart too much" Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road & stage 2 Post by: Anchorism on May 10, 2012, 12:29:31 PM [bang] wife says "it's because you take that thing apart too much" That's a surprise....HA! Lol ;D Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road & stage 2 Post by: Raux on May 10, 2012, 12:30:46 PM That's a surprise....HA! Lol ;D hey where are the pics of the parts and guzzi? Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road & stage 2 Post by: Raux on May 28, 2012, 12:57:13 PM (http://sphotos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/149324_378005275589540_1636431306_n.jpg)
Cleaning and touchups [bang] Wife wants her garage back. Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road & stage 2 Post by: danaid on May 28, 2012, 01:59:44 PM Get that bike back together so you can start tearing down that ST 2 [cheeky]
Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road & stage 2 Post by: Raux on May 29, 2012, 01:47:36 PM so I've got it back together.
pics of the pretty Monster in the morning. (http://sphotos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/428441_378943095495758_100001402122676_78209246_237502976_n.jpg) oh.. for those of you using zero rise clipons, try using the stock or low seat. I've found the extra height of the comfort seat was part of the cause of my extreme angle. an extra 20mm or so made a huge difference just sitting on the bike gonna ride the stock seat for a week to see the difference on the road. Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road & stage 2 Post by: Raux on May 31, 2012, 11:10:17 PM I posted on my ST thread, but the Monster deserves some love...
Took a ride on the Monster today. While the ST is nice. I think i've I forgot how refined I made the Monster. The clutch (being wet) is smoother on engagement and (being APTC) smoother on decel. The throttle with the Eleactron cam is tight and quick. Add the lightweight flywheel and it's just a rocket through the revs. And it really engine brakes well. The ST if you roll off the throttle it just keeps rolling and you HAVE to stab the brakes to slow down. Which for brakes, the monster is a BEAST. The ST stockers scare me sometimes, i even overshot a into town ess curve they have to slow traffice down (luckily the exit is straight). Not sure if it's the older rubber lines or the brake calipers. The Monster with the radial brakes and braided lines just GRAB the Braking rotors. The ST hold on for dear life it seems. Ergos, Even the monster stock seat is more comfortable. And now using the lower stock on the monster, the reach is damn near the same as the ST. I just sit more upright on the ST. The shifter is better positioned on the monster as well as rear brake, not sure if that's the S&P rearsets or the poor ST setup. And I've smoothed out the bike so much with DP ECU and PC V that the bike can use any throttle position without sputtering. The ST, sputters at 0-10% throttle around town. The ST does have the room and storage and wind protection. Yesterday was full on raining and I didnt have to stop to put on rain paints. just a middle dampness in on the jeans. The Monster I would have been soaked. The two up riding is damn near impossible on the Monster as well with the clipons and rearsets compared to the ST. The ST has that smoother cruising motor. 6k rpm in 6th gear is just soooooo smooth on the autobahn. AND of course the wife loves riding the ST together. Definitely two very different bikes. Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road & stage 2 Post by: ungeheuer on June 01, 2012, 03:18:33 AM I just noticed that you gave the bar end mirrors the flick.....
Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road & stage 2 Post by: Raux on June 01, 2012, 03:20:49 AM I just noticed that you gave the bar end mirrors the flick..... too much head movement. but i need to readjust them. seeing elbows again. Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road & stage 2 Post by: ungeheuer on June 01, 2012, 03:50:47 AM best vision I ever had was with the Rizoma bar ends on my 696...
... I prefer the look of the mirrors on stalks though... even though all I see is my elbows [bang] [laugh] Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road & stage 2 Post by: Link on June 02, 2012, 06:22:41 AM I posted on my ST thread, but the Monster deserves some love... Took a ride on the Monster today. While the ST is nice. I think i've I forgot how refined I made the Monster. The clutch (being wet) is smoother on engagement and (being APTC) smoother on decel. The throttle with the Eleactron cam is tight and quick. Add the lightweight flywheel and it's just a rocket through the revs. And it really engine brakes well. The ST if you roll off the throttle it just keeps rolling and you HAVE to stab the brakes to slow down. Which for brakes, the monster is a BEAST. The ST stockers scare me sometimes, i even overshot a into town ess curve they have to slow traffice down (luckily the exit is straight). Not sure if it's the older rubber lines or the brake calipers. The Monster with the radial brakes and braided lines just GRAB the Braking rotors. The ST hold on for dear life it seems. Lighter flywheel WTF ! I missed that part, now I'm gonna have to read/re-read this thread. If your ST rotors are in spec you might try some Galfer white/sintered pads in the ST those pads have made big improvement over stock pads in my experience. Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road & stage 2 Post by: Raux on June 02, 2012, 08:29:32 AM Lighter flywheel WTF ! I missed that part, now I'm gonna have to read/re-read this thread. If your ST rotors are in spec you might try some Galfer white/sintered pads in the ST those pads have made big improvement over stock pads in my experience. Thanks for the tip. I actually have Ferodo sintered on the Monster so I may switch on the ST. I'm sure the brake lines have something to do with it too, but there I go thinking mods again.. yeah.. flywheel is just awesome. Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road & stage 2 Post by: Raux on June 04, 2012, 11:17:53 PM OMG. I just love this combo - DP ECU, PC V, Lightweight Flywheel, Electraeon Quick Throttle Cam - Just smooth smooth smooth through the entire rpm range. So responsive. No need for a 14t sprocket. You get to use the whole rev range the way you want it with no issues. 3rd gear pulls from 2000rpm, no problem. 6th gear cruising at 3000rpm, no problem. quick twists to push it past 6000k all the way to the limiter... soooo quick. blip the throttle for downshifts, so quick that you need less twist.
and I can't say enough about the 1198 forks with ohlin springs and goldvalves, just hug the road and combined with the Pilot Road 2CT... so much confidence. With the 1in wider Woodcraft bars this bike just falls into corners and holds whatever line I choose. need an adjustment midcorner, no problem. want to do a switchback, light push on the opposite bar and the bike just 'flips' to the other side like a flapjack on a spatula. soooo easy. If I could just afford a new rear shock to even it out, I would be in suspension heaven. after having the ST for about a month now, I've re-fallen in love with the Monster. Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road & stage 2 Post by: Anchorism on June 05, 2012, 12:14:18 AM after having the ST for about a month now, I've re-fallen in love with the Monster. Not surprised at all.... you did pretty much build it to you... One day ill reach that point as well. I mean, i do LOVE my monster but there are a few things to make it just right.... Btw, the headset is calling your name lol Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road & stage 2 Post by: Link on June 05, 2012, 09:41:43 AM OMG. I just love this combo - DP ECU, PC V, Lightweight Flywheel, Electraeon Quick Throttle Cam - Just smooth smooth smooth through the entire rpm range. So responsive. No need for a 14t sprocket. You get to use the whole rev range the way you want it with no issues. 3rd gear pulls from 2000rpm, no problem. 6th gear cruising at 3000rpm, no problem. quick twists to push it past 6000k all the way to the limiter... soooo quick. blip the throttle for downshifts, so quick that you need less twist. and I can't say enough about the 1198 forks with ohlin springs and goldvalves, just hug the road and combined with the Pilot Road 2CT... so much confidence. With the 1in wider Woodcraft bars this bike just falls into corners and holds whatever line I choose. need an adjustment midcorner, no problem. want to do a switchback, light push on the opposite bar and the bike just 'flips' to the other side like a flapjack on a spatula. soooo easy. If I could just afford a new rear shock to even it out, I would be in suspension heaven. after having the ST for about a month now, I've re-fallen in love with the Monster. About that rear shock, I was amazed at how well it works, until I did the SBK fork swap I thought the rear shock was shit, after fork swap and about 15mm of increased rear ride height and correct pre-load adj. I really can't see a reason to replace the rear shock. I'm sure the Ohilns would smooth out the ride and possibly better the handling but as you say it's so good now, I'll wait for your write up on rear shock replacement ! If anybody's done the SBK forks & rear shock replacement speak up. Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road & stage 2 Post by: Raux on June 05, 2012, 09:44:01 AM my preload is at 149 cm with compression down to about 4 clicks.
Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road & stage 2 Post by: Raux on November 22, 2012, 02:42:55 AM From track day at WDW2012, Misano
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about 124mph after speedo 9% error still had room under the redline. ;D Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road & stage 2 Post by: Raux on September 21, 2014, 04:52:16 AM I'm back.
New pics coming. Bike now has proper bars and high risers. Wife will be taking it over slowly as I build the ST2R Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road & stage 2 Post by: danaid on September 21, 2014, 07:47:39 AM Where have you been? [shot]
Waiting for those pics Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road & stage 2 Post by: Curmudgeon on September 21, 2014, 12:59:18 PM Welcome back! You were definitely missed but not forgotten. Looked up one of your technical posts only last week. ;) Gusee you've had to slow down since coming back! [leo]
Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road & stage 2 Post by: Raux on September 21, 2014, 01:04:35 PM yes, Oklahoma, has slowed me down and squared off my tires. [bang] plus have a nasty front tire with very big lumps due to the poor roads.
Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road & stage 2 Post by: ungeheuer on September 21, 2014, 03:51:11 PM Aw.... How sweet.
You missed us :) Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road & stage 2 Post by: Curmudgeon on September 21, 2014, 04:00:30 PM As..... How sweet. You missed us :) He's not going to recognize you with that new handle!!! ;D ;D ;D Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road & stage 2 Post by: ungeheuer on September 21, 2014, 04:06:54 PM He's not going to recognize you with that new handle!!! ;D ;D ;D eh? [evil]Title: Re: 696 rebuild - on the road & stage 2 Post by: ducpainter on September 21, 2014, 04:10:12 PM If only donkeys came in silver.
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