Ducati Monster Forum

Hi there I am about to either buy a 2007 S4RS Red on Red Frame black rims, in amazing shape with low low miles.  I have also found a 2008 S4RS Tricolore with decent miles in amazing shape. 

Are these bikes essentially the same bikes.  I've read all over the internet that 2007 has 117 HP and the 2008 has 130 HP and the Tricolore has better parts and is mechanically superior to the 2007.

Any thoughts or the difference between these two bikes.

Thanks

Mmmm, I am thinking the Tri-colore. I like those scooters. Sounds like it's a really close call. You say the tri bike is in mechanically superior shape and has better parts. Why? What's it got? Curious minds want to know. I actually wouldn't think the motors wouldn't be any different from my 999. I would think they were the same. I'll let others who know better make that call. Depending on what you say I'm leaning toward the tri bike. Just saying...

Not sure if this'll link properly:

ducati.com '07 S4RS vs. '08 S4RS (http://www.ducati.com/compare/index.do?op=add&year1=7&year1_new_value=false&bikeFamily1=22&bikeFamily1_new_value=false&bikeModel1=1461&bikeModel1_new_value=false)

Seems to work...

Nothing different between those 2 models AFAIK, other than the paint.

Either one a great Monster.

W, a Full Termi Exhaust , DP ECU and open Air box you should come close to 130 RWHP on either bike.

Go w, the one that speaks to you.

Dolph      :)

I don't *think* there's any real difference between an '07 S4RS and an '08 S4RS TC.

However, the S4RS TC is produced in limited edition - 1 of 400 made.

It sounds like the '07 has lower mileage. And the TC is slightly more rare. Either bike will make you extremely happy. I guess it depends on which one you like the look of better.

The HP diff is from Ducati going to crank HP like the big 4. Same exact bike. Different paint. That's it.

Red.

Red is hot!

Dark...oh I mean Tri color!

AFAIK they are the same same, 'cept for the paint and the limited edition number badge on the TC

Those HP numbers are probably measured two different ways. the 117 is probably Rear Wheel, and the 130 is probably at the crank. Most of the time, there's a 10% difference between the HP at the crank on a Duc and what's measured at the wheel - which matches exactly to this scenario 117 = 130 - (130 * 0.1)

get the red the tricolor is ugly.

same bike different color go with the better price.

if the price is close i would go with the tri-colore.

it should hold value better as its a numbered LE as was noted.

You can't go wrong with either, but i like the rarity of the tricolore.

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My guess is the TC is priced higher due to the "awesome" paint job?

Or maybe because they only made 400 of them? :)

Ducati only made 200 of my bike, only released it in north america and for only one year.  That doesn't make it worth more now.

That sounds about right. My 2005 999 has the full 57mm Termi system and DP ecu and AMS dyno'd it at 130 and change. Maybe 130.2, something like that. The motor should be the same as the S4RS.

Go with the one you can't stop thinking about. [thumbsup]

It does to some people. Which bike, BTW?

2002 monster 750 S ie   

Okay, I see your point. A run of the mill M750 isn't all that interesting. But an S4RS is sort of rare in and of itself, but coupled with the number plate. I dunno. Maybe you're right - maybe 5 years from now an S4RS will be the same price as the TC. I guess only time will tell.

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Where can one find out production numbers for Ducati's?  Id like to know how many 2001 M900 Cromos were produced/imported.

+1 on the TC being ug.

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Somebody finally said it. I was being nice. :)

I dig the dusty gold wheels/frame on the TC though. IMO, one of them would look totally kickass with the bodywork repainted red. Sorta the feel of certain '60s competition Ferraris with the Campy wheels.

nothing different with the tri but paint.   If the limited paint tickles your fancy great.  I wouldn't expect higher resale down the road for a special paint run though.

take a look at the tri up close...the paint on the tail and tank are different.   That bugs some people a lot.


also...look at both of their tanks carefully.   Check the clearance between the front of the tank and the ignition housing.  also look at the rubber frame bumbers under the tank.   Then read the expanding tank thread stickied up top in this forum.

then buy one and ride the snot out of it.   ;D

I will have to agree.  I was never that fond of the tricolore color scheme and then one came along my way and i wanted to have one of the last original monsters.  I saw the possibilities and purchased one - then the mods began and it has turned out far better than i could have imagined.  These modifications have turned it into a bike that i am proud of and receive so many compliments on the road and at the dealerships.  I could not have done it without my friend Roland at Motovations who got me all the Rizoma and Brembo accessories and the Riding House carbon.  In addition to these mods are the following:
14 tooth front sprocket
Vizitec tail light                            
Cox Radiator and Oil Cooler Guard                       
Shift Tech – Carbon Fiber Short Tail                       
Shift Tech – Carbon Fiber Rear Fender                    
Shift Tech – Carbon Fiber Front Chain Guard                 
Shift Tech – Carbon Fiber Rear Chain Guard                 
Rizoma Sprocket Cover                          
Rizoma Rear Sets                             
Rizoma Heal Guards for Rear Sets                         
Rizoma Zero 11 Turn Signals (front and rear sets)               
Rizoma Zero 11 Turn Signals Extenders (1 pair)                   
Rizoma Bar End Caps / Sliders                         
Rizoma Fluid Tanks Size 27                            
Rizoma Fluid Tanks Size 25                          
Rizoma Fluid Tanks Size 15                          
Rizoma Fluid Reservoir Bracket – Brembo                      
Rizoma Engine Oil Cap                            
Rizoma Billet Grips (gold)                          
Rizoma Clutch Plate                             
Rizoma Clutch Cover                             
Rizoma Conical Handlebars 29-22mm                     
Rizoma Reverse Retro Mirrors                       
Brembo 16 RCS Clutch Master Cylinder                        
Brembo 19 RCS Brake Master Cylinder                  
Yoyodyne Overthruster Clutch Slave Cylinder (gold)                     
Termignoni Exhaust Full Carbon System (with ECU and filter)      
Motovation Rear Axel Slider                        
Motovation Frame Slider                          
Motovation Fork Sliders                            
Ducati dark smoke shield                            
Speedy Moto water pump housing
Riding House - cowling and fairing carbon

Here is a video that Roland at Motovations shot for me.
Ducati S4RS Tricolore (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gERm5WsDC9U#lq-lq2-hq-vhq-hd)
http://www.motovationusa.com/ (http://www.motovationusa.com/)

enjoy!

You're rocking for only your second post! Welcome to the madness!! [thumbsup] [laugh]

Your list is wrong.  :P That's a speedymoto sprocket cover.  :)

Good catch - originally had the Rizoma sproket cover then changed to Speedy Moto - now it is back to Rizoma. the Rizoma looks better and more tied in with the rest of the bike.  Anyone in the market for a gold Speedy Moto sproket cover?

So far as I know, no changes of significance have been made since the first early release 2006 model.

I see the "impressive" list of modifications made and think if is doesn't make it stop or go it's not worth the effort, much less the money.

Mine's pretty much stock, almost, and the changes make it stop and go better.

35,000 trouble free miles so far.  I'm riding it until I, or it quits.

It literally seems to run better each time I fire it up.  Best scoot I've ever been on.

LA

Thanks everyone for your feedback. It is truly a hard choice.  I had a black 2004 S4R and it was a beauty but this is now a really hard choice.  When I look at the red I think wow hot and then when I look at the tricolore I think different and unique but not as hot as the Tricolore.

Again, get the one you can't stop thinking about. That has always worked for me. If your soul and heart says you can't live without it then that's the one! Damn... almost sounds like relationship advice!!! [laugh] [laugh] I guess it is sort of relationship advice.! [thumbsup]

Im going red, it is a hotter looking bike and I am not totally convinced with that paint scheme of the red, white and green it is a little too Italian for my Portuguese blood.

I checked with Nada Guides which isn't the best place to test values but the 2007 S4RS had a higher resale value than the 2008 Tricolore I guess because of the odd paint job it is not as popular or it is more rare.

Anyhow I am going Red.  The bike has 690 miles on it rarely ridden the tri has 5000 miles and I am not 100% convinced on that colour scheme, too red, white and green I am more of a solid colour man myslef.

Can't wait to start adding the upgrades.

Make up your mind and put us out of our misery! [laugh] Just do it!! You won't regret it either way. How many "you can't go wrong" bike buying deals do you run across?? Buy it and ride it!!! [moto] How many folks would love to be in this dilemma?

As everybody said bikes are same.  Get the one you can randomly peek into the garage at and just smile.
FWIW I originally went down to the dealership planning on riding a tricolor home - I thought it looked gorgeous in pictures.  Once I saw the tricolor in person I ended up riding home on a black and silver 07 and have never regretted it. But it should be your choice, not ours.

I didn't hesitate when I ordered black and it still wows me every time I look at it.

LA

The tricolor would definitely be the better choice.  The value on the bike is actually increasing...its the last of that monster generation too.

My insurance company stated they estimate the value at 17k.  meanwhile my reg. s4rs is only at 9.8k right now and its an 07

no it isn't.

just sayin'

Im going to say that the insurance company knows a little more on the value of the bike...just saying.


Plus just saw one in cali go for 15.5k.

Thats a pretty solid value, seeing how it retailed for just a little more than that 3 years ago.

quick search finds four for sale in the 10.2 range with mods.

but ok, invest away.  Maybe your insurance agent will buy it.

edit:  shit, even missed the one for sale on this forum for 9.5

I would say Slater may have a better handle on values than an insurance company..  he certainly is more involved in the Monster scene. 
We sold a TC a few months back that had a ton of goodies on it and went for as much as one could probably ask..  here is the picture
(http://ducatiseattle.smugmug.com/Other/Trades/S4RS-TC/820020166_eFPVN-M.jpg)

I actually saw the TC and the matching 1098R.  They are ohhhhh so nice.  It's quite stunning...   [drool]  Some lucky bastards got them at a good price

I want to know what the secret is to getting the carbon fiber *vented* belt covers on there.  I have a set but I can't see how they are going on without dropping the engine first.  Did somebody modify something or did they actually drop the engine?  Even with the battery tray removed the frame is just too close to the engine to maneuver the vertical cover around and get it down over the belt.

Um, just sayin', but if you're buying late-model bikes (or cars) as investments of sorts, you're gonna be pretty disappointed....

I've got real estate opportunities for ya.  ;)

Like others said, both bikes have the same HP.  Matter of fact, the '07 S4R had the same power as the S4RS for '07 and '08.  Adding the S to S4R gave you Ohlins and I think better brakes.  Of course if you find a good S4R for a cheaper price you could buy much nicer Ohlins parts than came on the S4RS.  Any of these bikes will be sure to put a grin on your face!   ;D