The FAA is planning on banning peanuts because a small percentage of the population can't eat them.
I am a member of an ever decreasing percentage of the population that can't tolerate extreme stupidity. What will they do for me? Wipe out congress?
Aviation Administration correct? Most airlines already stopped serving peanuts and offer pretzels instead.
The principal of my old elementary school quit his job of 30 years because they said the kids with allergies had to be segregated in the lunch room, they had to stay at their own little 'leper' table.
Clearly something has happened to cause a spike in allergic reactions to peanuts when there not nearly as many cases 20 years ago, but there needs to be a limit to this pussification of American.
I thought this was going to be another thread about a divorce, girlfriend or baby.
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I have a good friend that almost died of a peanut allergy.
Of course he ate one, just didn't come in contact like in a plane via air.
Which raises the question...........
If you are allergic to latex and you enter an examination room that has both latex and latex free gloves.................shouldn't they ban this practice as well as it works off the same principle?
How about restaurants?
Should their be a "No Shell Fish Area?"
Quote from: NoisyDante on June 15, 2010, 11:34:38 AM
Aviation Administration correct? Most airlines already stopped serving peanuts and offer pretzels instead.
i actually prefer pretzels and request those on flights instead of peanuts (and i'm not allergic).
Allergies are for pussies.
Quote from: cyrus buelton on June 15, 2010, 11:51:38 AM
Which raises the question...........
If you are allergic to latex and you enter an examination room that has both latex and latex free gloves.................shouldn't they ban this practice as well as it works off the same principle?
Some hospitals and doctor's offices are banning latex gloves.
The maternity ward we are going to bans latex balloons because of potential allergies.
Quote from: duccarlos on June 15, 2010, 12:22:36 PM
Allergies are for pussies.
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I like that term, "the pussification of America"!!! That's a good one! [clap] Can I use that term from time to time? I'll give you proper credit. Too bad it's true. Drivers are getting worse and people seem increasingly more stupid too. Is there no end in sight? [bang]
Nah, they'll just put you in a re-education camp to learn how to be stupid like everyone else.
im allergic to clothes and the known cure is naked women.
Quote from: He Man on June 15, 2010, 01:11:39 PM
im allergic to clothes and the known cure is naked women.
So naked women.....make you able to put clothes on?
You're doing it wrong.
I'm also for this, on the off chance my pilot is allergic to peanuts.
no, as in, im already naked and im allergic to women with clothes on.
I just want a medical reason to see some boobies.
if the pilot is allergic to peanuts why cant he just NOT eat peanuts? they are all pre packaged. just dont read the label that says peanut, know it, then open it, and knowling chew it and swallow it...
Apparently peanut dust gets released into the air when the packages are opened, and with all the air recirculation on board a plane, everybody ends up breathing that peanut dust. No biggie unless you are severely allergic.
Quote from: somegirl on June 15, 2010, 02:52:38 PM
Apparently peanut dust gets released into the air when the packages are opened, and with all the air recirculation on board a plane, everybody ends up breathing that peanut dust. No biggie unless you are severely allergic.
and a pilot.
Quote from: somegirl on June 15, 2010, 02:52:38 PM
Apparently peanut dust gets released into the air when the packages are opened, and with all the air recirculation on board a plane, everybody ends up breathing that peanut dust. No biggie unless you are severely allergic.
Don't people that are that allergic carry an Epi pen anyways?
If they don't, well, Darwin comes to mind.
Quote from: DesmoLu on June 15, 2010, 02:58:10 PM
Don't people that are that allergic carry an Epi pen anyways?
If they don't, well, Darwin comes to mind.
Epi pen won't always completely stop severe anaphylaxis. I've been in an OR that mistakenly had latex in it and the patient was in serious trouble. Took a lot more epi than is in an epi pen to save her.
If someone has an allergy to airborne peanut dust, then maybe they can call the airline in advance and ask for there to be no peanuts on the plane. I don't think it should be every flight....but I'd also rather be unable to eat peanuts for a flight than have to make an emergency landing for someone in anaphylactic shock.
^^ Yeah, the Epi-pen is just to keep you alive until you can get to a hospital. It's not an antidote.
This is such a slippery slope. Once we outlaw peanuts, only outlaws will have peanuts!
so if no peanuts are allowed, does that mean you won't be able to bring your own snack aboard? wouldn't they have to ban peanuts from all airport shops?
oh no... what about peanut m&m's ???
It's OK, settle down. The candy shell around the M&M will keep the peanut dust from killing anyone. Whew! That was a close one! ;D
Good thing. I love peanut m&ms.
I say fcuk it, let the peanut dust fall where it may.
You can't account for EVERYBODY'S specific allergy.
Stop worrying......we're all going to DIE !
Somewhere there's..... a Mack truck w, your name on the front of it, or ......a Heart Attack ,or.......an Electromagnetic Pulse Explosion which disables everything that operates on electricity caused by natural forces or an Enemy Nuclear Explosion for which our Country currently has no defense.
Dolph :(
Quote from: DoubleEagle on June 15, 2010, 08:36:39 PM
Stop worrying......we're all going to DIE !
~snip~
Dolph :(
Shit, that changes everything. :(
eh
I dunno
I get the need to ban the peanuts
the idea of a bad allergic reaction at 30,000 feet would be
but
I'd rather they just train and equip the staff to handle the issue
the ban is cheaper however so we all know which path they will take
One could always eat the peanuts you bring on board while cupping them secretly in your latex-gloved hands....
Quote from: Mother on June 15, 2010, 10:38:55 PM
the ban is cheaper however so we all know which path they will take
Absolute truth. Increased profit margin (however small) under the veil of public awareness and safety.
Quote from: Mother on June 15, 2010, 10:38:55 PM
I'd rather they just train and equip the staff to handle the issue
Have you flown recently?
I am not sure the flight attendant I had on Monday could dig himself/herself (protecting sex due to possible backlash of discrimination) out of a swimming pool.............
I'd be shocked if they could perform CPR effectively.
Quote from: somegirl on June 15, 2010, 12:50:11 PM
Some hospitals and doctor's offices are banning latex gloves.
The maternity ward we are going to bans latex balloons because of potential allergies.
Must be a CA thing.
All the offices, hospitals, urgent cares, diagnostic machine centers, etc. I have been here in Ohio and Indiana have one box of latex and one box of non-latex right above each other in every room.
They always ask if you are allergic to latex before throwing the gloves on.
However, that could be changing. You probably spend a lot more time in clinics then I do playing with fancy telescopes.
make the beast with two backs pretzels. f'n gluten
serve only gummie bears.
If the whole peanut dust in the hvac theory were viable then we would have had many planes dropping out of the sky and people dropping dead in their seats in the 70 plus years of commercial air travel.
Based on the premise of this new lowest common denominator peanut protection law I think we need to take it a little further. For instance, convicted criminals can't vote, diabetics can't have sugar, people with high blood pressure can't have salt, Asians can't drive cars. We need to ban a whole lot of shit.
Anyone see the movie Harrison Bergeron?
Quote from: silentbob on June 16, 2010, 07:12:49 AM
Anyone see the movie Harrison Bergeron?
I read the Vonnegut story... It's in my favorite book of all time, "Welcome to the Monkey House".
Quote from: silentbob on June 16, 2010, 07:12:49 AM
If the whole peanut dust in the hvac theory were viable then we would have had many planes dropping out of the sky and people dropping dead in their seats in the 70 plus years of commercial air travel.
Based on the premise of this new lowest common denominator peanut protection law I think we need to take it a little further. For instance, convicted criminals can't vote, diabetics can't have sugar, people with high blood pressure can't have salt, Asians can't drive cars. We need to ban a whole lot of shit.
Anyone see the movie Harrison Bergeron?
I'd like to volunteer to walk point on this and lead the "make the beast with two backs it, let's ban it" venture. My list of shit I want banned is pretty damn long and I'd be happy to take suggestions from others. People have been trying to ban my crap for years and now it's time for payback! Revenge is a dish best served cold. [evil] [laugh]
Quote from: somegirl on June 15, 2010, 02:52:38 PM
Apparently peanut dust gets released into the air when the packages are opened, and with all the air recirculation on board a plane, everybody ends up breathing that peanut dust. No biggie unless you are severely allergic.
If someone IS severely allergic, they can and should be carrying a rescue device (such as an epinephrine injector). Peanuts are ubiquitous on our planet, so short of living in a bubble one is going to get exposed. Strawberries and shrimp are other common food allergies, but I doubt there will ever be a move to ban them.
Airflow on commercial aircraft is laminar, ceiling to floor, and circulates through HEPA filters. The dust from peanuts in one part of the plane is not going to have a significant impact on a person in another part. Once off the plane, they're back in the real world with that grimy urchin snarfing peanuts in the airport, so we're back to unavoidable exposure. On-board, exposure is trivial.
There ARE people who are dangerously allergic to common foods. However, a very large number of people who claim food allergies do not have them. They certainly think they do, but it's quite easy to test. This has been done and it's clear that food allergies are massively over-reported. This is for ingested food. For severe inhalation allergies to foods, the number of real cases is even tinier. Again, those patients have no business leaving the house without a rescue device.
Quote from: fastwin on June 15, 2010, 12:56:37 PM
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I like that term, "the pussification of America"!!! That's a good one! [clap] Can I use that term from time to time?
By all means use it and spread it around, I can't remember where I heard it first. Possibly my mixing partner here at work, he coaches little league and he always complains that kids aren't tough anymore, and the rules in school prevent them from growing spines.
Tell your co-worker he coined a good one. I agree that the world (or at least this country) has a protect them from themselves attitude. I'm not a wild squid and yeah, sure safety is a good thing. I always wear all my riding gear. No one has to tell me or make it a law. But some things just go too damn far.
I love my 13 year old step son but sometimes I just stare and shake my head. What are they doing to him? You're right, where's the spine? He's in Boy Scout's gearing up for the big 100 year anniversary Jamboree in DC. That's a good thing. Maybe Scouts will help counter school and the rest of the world's "pussy effect". Damn, when I grew up you had to be bleeding bad from at least two places and have a bone sticking out (ala Rossi :P) for my parents to even take notice! Didn't hurt my feelings. [thumbsup]
I'm dating this girl right now who has two kids, and believe me, if I'm going to be some sort of influential figure in her sons life, he's gonna be tough as shit!
I'm allergic to bee stings.
Does that mean we should exterminate all bees and ban Honey Nut Cheerios??!!! [roll]
make the beast with two backs NO! >:(
Suck it up, Buttercup. Take off your skirt and grow a frickin' backbone.
Well, luckily my step son's Dad is a great guy and we have the same outlook toward all of that. My wife gets along with him really well in spite of him being an "ex" and actually she is friend's with his current wife. We babysit their little girl when they can't find someone to watch her. Hell, we have even gone on family vacations with them. Weird but true. Good for the kiddos. Like I said he's a good guy.[thumbsup]
Point is, even with his Dad and me all over him (in a good way) to "man up" when it's needed I still see the safetycrat/pussification effect on my step son coming through. Hell, he doesn't even want to go out and ride his bike or climb a tree. And nothing worse than to see the "drama queen" come out in him on the baseball field if he gets knocked down. Great kid, just being raised differently than I was and in a different world. Oh well, I'll keep working on it...
Today I had an interesting conversation with a gentleman from England. He said the USA aint got nuth'n in regards to the safe and fair oversight.
Bubble wrap everything.
Quote from: bobspapa on June 16, 2010, 06:14:13 PM
Today I had an interesting conversation with a gentleman from England. He said the USA aint got nuth'n in regards to the safe and fair oversight.
Bubble wrap everything.
I can personally attest to that, bp. It's still the wild west over here compared to England...
Where are our future Soldiers going to come from ?
If all the boys are growing up " softies ? "
Dolph
Quote from: bobspapa on June 16, 2010, 06:14:13 PM
Today I had an interesting conversation with a gentleman from England. He said the USA aint got nuth'n in regards to the safe and fair oversight.
I'm pretty sure they actually invented the term "nanny state."
Quote from: somegirl on June 15, 2010, 03:12:18 PM
^^ Yeah, the Epi-pen is just to keep you alive until you can get to a hospital. It's not an antidote.
and, anyone who has had a dose of EPI is in no state to fly a plane...
just sayin..
Quote from: mstevens on June 16, 2010, 09:08:29 PM
I'm pretty sure they actually invented the term "nanny state."
mary popins?
Quote from: fastwin on June 16, 2010, 09:37:12 AM
Revenge is a dish best served cold. [evil] [laugh]
No it's not.
It's best served as an all you can eat buffet!
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Ya know-I don't even recall seeing peanuts on any flight recently. P says Southwest has 'em and that's it.
Here you are, whining about something that has zero impact to you-you don't get to eat something they don't serve in a place you don't often go. Build a bridge and get over it. Pussification? This thread.
I'm Chris Capp and I approve this message
Quote from: DoubleEagle on June 16, 2010, 08:25:12 PM
Where are our future Soldiers going to come from ?
If all the boys are growing up " softies ? "
Dolph
As a Soldier, and a leader of Soldiers, I think this on a daily basis. "A guy I know" has a Soldier who came to us with a very high score on his intelligence exam he took when he came in. He was hospitalized recently for stomach pain caused by taking 30 Motrin tablets in one day for his back pain. He saw nothing wrong with this. Never mind the fact that he more than doubled the recommended dosage for a period of 24 hours. He went in yesterday morning, and gets out tonight.
In our line of work, back pain pretty much goes with the territory. You carry heavy gear for extended periods of time while walking or riding on the vehicles. We stay out in high heat with loads up to 80 pounds. (not counting rucksacks).
When I was at my last duty assignment, A Soldier came to us from training, excited to go to war. It turns out that he was clinically depressed and only joined so that he would die in battle. He told us that he was too scared to try and kill himself, so he was going to die in battle. He was given extensive psychological treatment, and then processed out of the military.
The military has had night/day changes since I enlisted. I do all that I can to toughen my troops and prepare them for the trials that they will face in the theater(s) of combat.
Don't really know where I was going with all of this except that we are getting "softer" individuals enlisting these days. However, where I am, they either adapt and man up, or get kicked the make the beast with two backs out. And that's the bottom line, 'cause Stone Cold said so.
And they can pry my can of peanuts from my cold, dead hands!
Lowest Common Denominator...
Hmmm, brings to mind Chinese drywall...
As a (severly) lactose-intolerant American...I'm not a hater towards cheese & milk. Hell, if you can enjoy it and want to... Go for it!
As for the peanuts, I can see the point to it but hey...I can also see the allergic person making her/his own accommodations.
Quote from: MrIncredible on June 17, 2010, 06:20:49 PM
Ya know-I don't even recall seeing peanuts on any flight recently. P says Southwest has 'em and that's it.
Here you are, whining about something that has zero impact to you-you don't get to eat something they don't serve in a place you don't often go. Build a bridge and get over it. Pussification? This thread.
Next they will ban your corn flakes that someone apparently pissed in. I also noticed that you posted in this thread more than me and I started it.
I would support legislature that banned urine in my cheerios
Quote from: Mother on June 17, 2010, 10:03:49 PM
I would support legislature that banned urine in my cheerios
says the bike pisser
Quote from: herm on June 17, 2010, 05:58:50 PM
and, anyone who has had a dose of EPI is in no state to fly a plane...
just sayin..
I'm pretty sure that anyone with a known anaphylactic inhalation allergy to a common food is not going to pass the flight physical for a commercial license.
Quote from: bobspapa on June 17, 2010, 10:06:08 PM
says the bike pisser
you pee on one DR and look what happens