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Title: 2010 Moto GP round 7, Catalunya! *Soon to have Spoilers*
Post by: El Matador on June 29, 2010, 04:17:42 PM
Aaaand we arrive at one of my favourite tracks, Catalunya.

What do you think, Pedrobot takes it in home court or Lorenzo continues his winning ways?


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Title: Re: 2010 Moto GP round 7, Catalunya! *Soon to have Spoilers*
Post by: zooom on June 30, 2010, 02:39:59 AM
my podium prediction....

Lorenzo
Dovi
DePuniet

Smurfy crashes due to a wild swaggering pass by RDP while they are both on the limit pushing and Hayden pulls another 4th and the Ben is rightt on his tail for 5th after a back and forth with Casey...


okay...and then I woke up...


Title: Re: 2010 Moto GP round 7, Catalunya! *Soon to have Spoilers*
Post by: desmoquattro on June 30, 2010, 03:14:18 AM
1. Stoner
2. Lorentho
3. Spies

Oh, and the dominoes start falling (http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/30062010/23/rossi-ducati-deal-announced-catalunya.html)...


Title: Re: 2010 Moto GP round 7, Catalunya! *Soon to have Spoilers*
Post by: zooom on June 30, 2010, 04:14:53 AM


Oh, and the dominoes start falling (http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/30062010/23/rossi-ducati-deal-announced-catalunya.html)...

you mean in terms of announcements being made official or in terms of motors starting to blow mid race given how they have been strategizing usage?


Title: Re: 2010 Moto GP round 7, Catalunya! *Soon to have Spoilers*
Post by: DesmoDiva on June 30, 2010, 04:57:49 AM
On Speed at 8am EST Sunday.   [moto]


Title: Re: 2010 Moto GP round 7, Catalunya! *Soon to have Spoilers*
Post by: desmoquattro on June 30, 2010, 05:19:18 AM
you mean in terms of announcements being made official or in terms of motors starting to blow mid race given how they have been strategizing usage?

Rossi to Ducati...the first domino.


Title: Re: 2010 Moto GP round 7, Catalunya! *Soon to have Spoilers*
Post by: zooom on June 30, 2010, 06:41:59 AM
Rossi to Ducati...the first domino.

second actually since the Stoner to HRC domino hit the rumor mills 1st...


Title: Re: 2010 Moto GP round 7, Catalunya! *Soon to have Spoilers*
Post by: desmoquattro on June 30, 2010, 09:42:27 AM
second actually since the Stoner to HRC domino hit the rumor mills 1st...

I think it'll be the first one announced.


Title: Re: 2010 Moto GP round 7, Catalunya! *Soon to have Spoilers*
Post by: zooom on July 02, 2010, 03:29:31 AM
FP1 results...

Results:

Pos No. Rider Bike Time Diff Diff Previous
1 99 Jorge LORENZO YAMAHA 1'43.259     
2 27 Casey STONER DUCATI 1'43.412 0.153 0.153
3 26 Dani PEDROSA HONDA 1'43.631 0.372 0.219
4 4 Andrea DOVIZIOSO HONDA 1'43.725 0.466 0.094
5 11 Ben SPIES YAMAHA 1'43.854 0.595 0.129
6 41 Aleix ESPARGARO DUCATI 1'44.136 0.877 0.282
7 14 Randy DE PUNIET HONDA 1'44.196 0.937 0.060
8 69 Nicky HAYDEN DUCATI 1'44.440 1.181 0.244
9 5 Colin EDWARDS YAMAHA 1'44.551 1.292 0.111
10 58 Marco SIMONCELLI HONDA 1'44.634 1.375 0.083
11 65 Loris CAPIROSSI SUZUKI 1'44.641 1.382 0.007
12 19 Alvaro BAUTISTA SUZUKI 1'44.692 1.433 0.051
13 36 Mika KALLIO DUCATI 1'44.745 1.486 0.053
14 33 Marco MELANDRI HONDA 1'44.806 1.547 0.061
15 40 Hector BARBERA DUCATI 1'45.004 1.745 0.198
16 64 Kousuke AKIYOSHI HONDA 1'47.757 4.498 2.753
17 8 Wataru YOSHIKAWA YAMAHA 1'48.015 4.756 0.258

the old guys subbing in are ONLY 4+ seconds off the pace....


Title: Re: 2010 Moto GP round 7, Catalunya! *Soon to have Spoilers*
Post by: desmoquattro on July 02, 2010, 03:49:14 AM
FP1 results...
17 8 Wataru YOSHIKAWA YAMAHA 1'48.015 4.756 0.258

Surprise, surprise...


Title: Re: 2010 Moto GP round 7, Catalunya! *Soon to have Spoilers*
Post by: Spidey on July 02, 2010, 05:50:14 AM
The usual -- aliens up front with Dovi nearby.  

This is the first time Spies has seen the track?  Fack.  


Title: Re: 2010 Moto GP round 7, Catalunya! *Soon to have Spoilers*
Post by: gm2 on July 02, 2010, 06:56:29 AM
This is the first time Spies has seen the track? 

yep.


Title: Re: 2010 Moto GP round 7, Catalunya! *Soon to have Spoilers*
Post by: duccarlos on July 02, 2010, 06:58:52 AM
Jorge
Turd
Dovi


Title: Re: 2010 Moto GP round 7, Catalunya! *Soon to have Spoilers*
Post by: Spidey on July 02, 2010, 06:59:21 AM
yep.

It was rhetorical.  Like when I wonder aloud if I'm actually this damn sexaaay.  ;D


Title: Re: 2010 Moto GP round 7, Catalunya! *Soon to have Spoilers*
Post by: Spidey on July 02, 2010, 07:00:03 AM
Jorge
Turd
Dovi

Not a bad call.  But no Stoner?  I assume you put him in fourth or DNF?


Title: Re: 2010 Moto GP round 7, Catalunya! *Soon to have Spoilers*
Post by: zooom on July 02, 2010, 07:46:53 AM
Not a bad call.  But no Stoner?  I assume you put him in fourth or DNF?

I vote for DNF due to some arm pumpin front end loss mystery issue.


Title: Re: 2010 Moto GP round 7, Catalunya! *Soon to have Spoilers*
Post by: Spidey on July 02, 2010, 08:00:39 AM
Best title ever. 

http://www.crash.net/motogp/news/161217/1/ben_spies_surprised_to_be_so_high.html (http://www.crash.net/motogp/news/161217/1/ben_spies_surprised_to_be_so_high.html)


Title: Re: 2010 Moto GP round 7, Catalunya! *Soon to have Spoilers*
Post by: derby on July 02, 2010, 08:11:09 AM
Best title ever. 

http://www.crash.net/motogp/news/161217/1/ben_spies_surprised_to_be_so_high.html (http://www.crash.net/motogp/news/161217/1/ben_spies_surprised_to_be_so_high.html)

i giggled when i read it.

(http://unrealitymag.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/floyd.jpg)


Title: Re: 2010 Moto GP round 7, Catalunya! *Soon to have Spoilers*
Post by: gm2 on July 02, 2010, 08:12:27 AM
and some.... cleaning products.


Title: Re: 2010 Moto GP round 7, Catalunya! *Soon to have Spoilers*
Post by: Jester on July 02, 2010, 09:17:59 AM
Stoner on Capirex

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/84950 (http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/84950)

My favorite part:

"I think maybe he's lost a little bit of motivation with the bike he's on," Stoner said. "Things wear you down like that. Being in racing as long as he has, and riding the amount of piles of cr*p to the limit that he has, maybe there comes a time when you've just had enough."



Title: Re: 2010 Moto GP round 7, Catalunya! *Soon to have Spoilers*
Post by: duccarlos on July 02, 2010, 09:24:03 AM
He'll be fourth. The Hondas have the top end and Lorenzo is looking unstoppable.


Title: Re: 2010 Moto GP round 7, Catalunya! *Soon to have Spoilers*
Post by: Speeddog on July 03, 2010, 06:05:40 AM
Qualy:

Pos    No.    Rider    Bike    Time    Diff    Diff Previous
1    99    Jorge LORENZO            YAMAHA    1'42.046         
2    27    Casey STONER            DUCATI    1'42.410    0.364    0.364
3    14    Randy DE PUNIET    HONDA    1'42.512    0.466    0.102
4    26    Dani PEDROSA            HONDA    1'42.592    0.546    0.080
5    11    Ben SPIES                    YAMAHA    1'42.710    0.664    0.118
6    4    Andrea DOVIZIOSO    HONDA    1'42.866    0.820    0.156
7    65    Loris CAPIROSSI           SUZUKI    1'42.903    0.857    0.037
8    41    Aleix ESPARGARO      DUCATI    1'42.931    0.885    0.028
9    58    Marco SIMONCELLI    HONDA    1'42.994    0.948    0.063
10    19    Alvaro BAUTISTA            SUZUKI    1'43.025    0.979    0.031
11    5    Colin EDWARDS            YAMAHA    1'43.059    1.013    0.034
12    69    Nicky HAYDEN            DUCATI    1'43.068    1.022    0.009
13    40    Hector BARBERA            DUCATI    1'43.417    1.371    0.349
14    33    Marco MELANDRI            HONDA    1'43.621    1.575    0.204
15    36    Mika KALLIO            DUCATI    1'43.685    1.639    0.064
16    64    Kousuke AKIYOSHI    HONDA    1'45.577    3.531    1.892
17    8    Wataru YOSHIKAWA    YAMAHA    1'45.759    3.713    0.182

http://www.motomatters.com/results/2010/07/03/2010_catalunya_motogp_qualifying_practic.html (http://www.motomatters.com/results/2010/07/03/2010_catalunya_motogp_qualifying_practic.html)


Title: Re: 2010 Moto GP round 7, Catalunya! *Soon to have Spoilers*
Post by: El Matador on July 03, 2010, 06:41:28 AM
Pedro on 4? that's interesting, I was expecting him do do much better


Title: Re: 2010 Moto GP round 7, Catalunya! *Soon to have Spoilers*
Post by: Speeddog on July 03, 2010, 07:09:58 AM
Seems these times are for a flyer lap, not so indicative of race pace due to the heat.


Title: Re: 2010 Moto GP round 7, Catalunya! *Soon to have Spoilers*
Post by: Jester on July 03, 2010, 08:48:11 AM
Seems these times are for a flyer lap, not so indicative of race pace due to the heat.

Yeah and Stoner/Spies both pulled those times out of their rear end at the end of the session.  I say Lorenzo manages the race and then pulls away once again.  I don't think anyone can keep up his pace over race distance at the moment.  He's on another level right now.


Title: Re: 2010 Moto GP round 7, Catalunya! *Soon to have Spoilers*
Post by: Jester on July 03, 2010, 10:03:20 PM
Very good warmup times.  I hope my prediction with Lorenzo was wrong.


Title: Re: 2010 Moto GP round 7, Catalunya! *Soon to have Spoilers*
Post by: DanTheMan on July 04, 2010, 03:42:27 AM
Who is randy De Puniet and when did he learn to ride a bike!?!?

Where did they the extra GO on the Zuki's. Maybe they ran the WSBK's versions  [laugh]


Title: Re: 2010 Moto GP round 7, Catalunya! *Soon to have Spoilers*
Post by: El Matador on July 04, 2010, 02:24:10 PM

:D


Title: Re: 2010 Moto GP round 7, Catalunya! *Soon to have Spoilers*
Post by: fastwin on July 04, 2010, 05:31:10 PM
Wait a damn minute. Pedrobot says he had no front brakes going into the first turn after getting the holeshot? Ah.... didn't you just do a sighting lap seconds before then and you certainly had brakes then. What, now they're gone after the light goes green? WTF?? I'm sure Brembo would be very upset to know that their brakes failed you in a matter of seconds. What a piece of shit! No, not the brakes.. you! Midget warrior needs to man up (if he can... [bang]) and shake loose from Puig and just say he make the beast with two backsed up. It's OK, your old teammate (and I use that term loosely) does that all the time! [roll] You just make the beast with two backsed up and straightened out the first turn. Big deal. Show some balls and don't blame it on your brakes. It's Ok... we'll still hate you anyway! [laugh]


Title: Re: 2010 Moto GP round 7, Catalunya! *Soon to have Spoilers*
Post by: Rufus120 on July 04, 2010, 11:38:43 PM
I'm sure this isn't the place....but holy moto2 race batman!


Title: Re: 2010 Moto GP round 7, Catalunya! *Soon to have Spoilers*
Post by: superjohn on July 05, 2010, 02:53:50 AM
I'm sure this isn't the place....but holy moto2 race batman!

+1  [thumbsup]

Moto2 is shaping up to be a great category.


Title: Re: 2010 Moto GP round 7, Catalunya! *Soon to have Spoilers*
Post by: Speeddog on July 05, 2010, 04:24:29 AM
Pedrobot said the bike got some headshake on the way to turn one.


Title: Re: 2010 Moto GP round 7, Catalunya! *Soon to have Spoilers*
Post by: gm2 on July 05, 2010, 05:46:54 AM
and Dovi halfway blames a wonky rear brake for his off.



Title: Re: 2010 Moto GP round 7, Catalunya! *Soon to have Spoilers*
Post by: Triple J on July 05, 2010, 07:33:17 AM
At least Stoner isn't blaming anyone but himself this week!

http://www.motorcyclenews.com/MCN/sport/sportresults/MotoGP/2010/July/jul0510-catalunya-motogp-stoner-rues-mistake/_/R-EPI-125219 (http://www.motorcyclenews.com/MCN/sport/sportresults/MotoGP/2010/July/jul0510-catalunya-motogp-stoner-rues-mistake/_/R-EPI-125219)


Title: Re: 2010 Moto GP round 7, Catalunya! *Soon to have Spoilers*
Post by: gm2 on July 05, 2010, 07:48:54 AM
At least Stoner isn't blaming anyone but himself this week!

http://www.motorcyclenews.com/MCN/sport/sportresults/MotoGP/2010/July/jul0510-catalunya-motogp-stoner-rues-mistake/_/R-EPI-125219 (http://www.motorcyclenews.com/MCN/sport/sportresults/MotoGP/2010/July/jul0510-catalunya-motogp-stoner-rues-mistake/_/R-EPI-125219)

i thought this was pretty cool, too

http://www.crash.net/motogp/news/161266/1/stoner_impossible_to_pass_pedrosa.html (http://www.crash.net/motogp/news/161266/1/stoner_impossible_to_pass_pedrosa.html)


Title: Re: 2010 Moto GP round 7, Catalunya! *Soon to have Spoilers*
Post by: Triple J on July 05, 2010, 08:01:05 AM
Don't want to be bagging on your future teammate!  [cheeky]


Title: Re: 2010 Moto GP round 7, Catalunya! *Soon to have Spoilers*
Post by: gm2 on July 05, 2010, 09:06:11 AM
hahaha.. good point


Title: Re: 2010 Moto GP round 7, Catalunya! *Soon to have Spoilers*
Post by: He Man on July 05, 2010, 09:15:38 AM
If stoner goes to honda, this might be very very true due to stoners uhh. crash happyness. hopefully it wont be a common theme.

(http://www.ratemymotivational.com/motivationals/13700-REPSOL-Its_Spanish_for_Teamwork.jpg)



Title: Re: 2010 Moto GP round 7, Catalunya! *Soon to have Spoilers*
Post by: Spidey on July 06, 2010, 07:10:50 AM
Who is randy De Puniet and when did he learn to ride a bike!?!?

Seriously.  ???  My biggest gripe about RDP is that mostrobelle and enzo came over to watch and I couldn't get MB to stop licking the TV screen.  It made it difficult to watch the race. 

Where did they the extra GO on the Zuki's. Maybe they ran the WSBK's versions  [laugh]
 

Well, I think Bautista's shoulder is better (despite a Sat crash), so that probably helped.   He's been riding messed up for a while now.  Also, at this point, they probably know that they're going to go through their engine allotment, I wouldn't be surprised if they said, "make the beast with two backs it, hop that pregnant dog up."

First, second and third in the championship are pretty spread from the rest.  But there's a TON of room for movement amonst the rest. Nicky actually moved up a notch by virtue of Valentino continuing to drop.  


Title: Re: 2010 Moto GP round 7, Catalunya! *Soon to have Spoilers*
Post by: Spidey on July 06, 2010, 07:14:58 AM
I'm sure this isn't the place....but holy moto2 race batman!

Wow.  what a pile-up in T1.  :o  And why didn't Morales get the position rather than a DNF?  He and his bike crossed the line.  And they may have even been touching at that point, as his bike landed on his back/neck right around the finish line.  Last I heard, he only had bruises.  I was pretty sure at first that he broke everything


Title: Re: 2010 Moto GP round 7, Catalunya! *Soon to have Spoilers*
Post by: Triple J on July 06, 2010, 08:06:14 AM
Wow.  what a pile-up in T1.  :o  And why didn't Morales get the position rather than a DNF?  He and his bike crossed the line.  And they may have even been touching at that point, as his bike landed on his back/neck right around the finish line.  Last I heard, he only had bruises.  I was pretty sure at first that he broke everything

That crash was brutal!  :o Glad to hear he's "OK".

Great race though!  [thumbsup]


Title: Re: 2010 Moto GP round 7, Catalunya! *Soon to have Spoilers*
Post by: kopfjäger on July 06, 2010, 12:40:12 PM
That crash was brutal!  :o Glad to hear he's "OK".

Great race though!  [thumbsup]

Moto 2 crash catalunya slow mo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffmi9a31oCQ#normal)


Title: Re: 2010 Moto GP round 7, Catalunya! *Soon to have Spoilers*
Post by: Spidey on July 06, 2010, 12:46:37 PM
Faaack.  :o   I guess that's why they wear back protectors and have speed humps.  Bikes bounce right off 'em.  
I'm not sure if it's worse in slow mo or real time.  In real time cuz you get a sense of the speed he was carrying when he had the get-off, but in slow-mo . . . OUCH!

Anyone have video of that Moto2 T1 carnage (before it gets pulled by Dorna)?


Title: Re: 2010 Moto GP round 7, Catalunya! *Soon to have Spoilers*
Post by: kopfjäger on July 06, 2010, 05:38:24 PM
If you pause the vid at 18sec, you can see the bike is headed off the track, and he is heading straight. Then he
gets jerked back off of the track (foot must have been caught on something).


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