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Title: Tire Break-in
Post by: RAT900 on July 08, 2010, 08:57:39 AM
OK so I am mounting a new set of Power Pure's

and I am looking for ways to scrub the mold release/break free off the rubber besides the usual riding them in and leaning incrementally...

I know I will push the tires and don't feel like discovering that I went too far over too soon the hard way

any thoughts, folk remedies?
Title: Re: Tire Break-in
Post by: The Bearded Duc on July 08, 2010, 09:19:19 AM
I've never tried this, nor have I ever heard of it being done but something about it makes some kind of sense to me. Could one try using a scouring pad, steel wool, or some other type of rough abrasion to get that "factory wax" off new tires? In my head it seems like it could/should work for a quicker break-in?!
Title: Re: Tire Break-in
Post by: avizpls on July 08, 2010, 09:23:12 AM
Tires talk. Listen. They will tell you
Title: Re: Tire Break-in
Post by: Triple J on July 08, 2010, 09:33:46 AM
Just ride it...a tad easy at first.

I read somewhere that you don't even need to scrub the tire in as tire manufacturers don't use mold release compound anymore. All you need to do is put them through a good heat cycle and you're done. I've never had an issue with new street tires slipping...and I've seen plenty of friends hit the track on a brand new set of tires and drag a knee within 2 laps after the tires are warm.
Title: Re: Tire Break-in
Post by: Popeye the Sailor on July 08, 2010, 10:01:04 AM
You need to heat cycle them-riding it the best way to do it.



Title: Re: Tire Break-in
Post by: okpanic on July 08, 2010, 04:24:43 PM
If you are really concerned about it and are willing to take the time to do it carefully, really fine grain sandpaper  and some patience should do the trick. just be sure to stop when you take that light layer of shinny off.
Title: Re: Tire Break-in
Post by: ducpainter on July 08, 2010, 04:35:55 PM
Go for a ride.

You're way over thinking this thing.
Title: Re: Tire Break-in
Post by: Howie on July 08, 2010, 07:38:04 PM
Quote from: ducpainter on July 08, 2010, 04:35:55 PM
Go for a ride.

You're way over thinking this thing.

[thumbsup]

Just avoid stupidity like leaning the bike way over under full throttle for a few miles.
Title: Re: Tire Break-in
Post by: RAT900 on July 08, 2010, 08:05:44 PM
Quote from: ducpainter on July 08, 2010, 04:35:55 PM
Go for a ride.

You're way over thinking this thing.

now that's a global issue in RAT-world
Title: Re: Tire Break-in
Post by: Buckethead on July 08, 2010, 09:11:17 PM
A light coat of WD-40 should do the trick.

[popcorn]
Title: Re: Tire Break-in
Post by: Javamoose on July 08, 2010, 09:56:50 PM
Quote from: Obsessed? on July 08, 2010, 09:11:17 PM
A light coat of WD-40 should do the trick.

[popcorn]

[laugh]

On a more serious note, when I had a CBR600 I got a new set of rubber and was super worried about the same thing due to all the 'forum stories' you hear.  However, I just rode and took it fairly mild, never had any issue what-so-ever.

Honestly, I think it's a scapegoat for squids who dump their brand new gixxah in the parking lot of the dealer...  [coffee]
Title: Re: Tire Break-in
Post by: Turf on July 08, 2010, 10:42:09 PM
modern sport tires are simple to get the compound off

Take it easy on the throttle

ride to the grocery store

obtain  [drink]

return home

celebrate

don't make it more complicated than it is

be one with the rubber
Title: Re: Tire Break-in
Post by: ducpainter on July 09, 2010, 03:11:44 AM
Quote from: RAT900 on July 08, 2010, 08:05:44 PM
now that's a global issue in RAT-world
Cut it out....

or I'll post an appropriate over played song. ;D
Title: Re: Tire Break-in
Post by: Popeye the Sailor on July 09, 2010, 12:01:03 PM
Quote from: Obsessed? on July 08, 2010, 09:11:17 PM
A light coat of WD-40 should do the trick.

[popcorn]

That's post break in. Armor all is the right stuff to help get compound off.
Title: Re: Tire Break-in
Post by: Speeddog on July 09, 2010, 08:33:12 PM
I had FHE with  a '78 XS400 Special whose owner had armor-alled the tires.
No amount of scrubbing would cure them.
If they even smelled water nearby, they'd start sliding.
Title: Re: Tire Break-in
Post by: RAT900 on July 10, 2010, 01:18:16 AM
Quote from: MrIncredible on July 09, 2010, 12:01:03 PM
That's post break in. Armor all is the right stuff to help get compound off.

I have some spare CLP break-free on the gun bench would that be a suitable substitute to Armor-all if I really soak it in well?    [laugh]
Title: Re: Tire Break-in
Post by: Raux on July 10, 2010, 01:34:25 AM
you know some newbie is going to read these, use them, crash, and sue you
Title: Re: Tire Break-in
Post by: RAT900 on July 10, 2010, 08:20:06 AM
Quote from: Raux on July 10, 2010, 01:34:25 AM
you know some newbie is going to read these, use them, crash, and sue you

hmmm could have a point there
Title: Re: Tire Break-in
Post by: ducpainter on July 10, 2010, 09:23:20 AM
I have a point too...

except it's on top of my head.

If anyone thinks either armor all or penetrating oil is the hot set up for a tire...

they deserve to crash.
Title: Re: Tire Break-in
Post by: Raux on July 10, 2010, 10:05:37 AM
knew someone that had their seat armor all'd by his wife as a surprise when she cleaned his bike for him. so it COULD happen
Title: Re: Tire Break-in
Post by: Ddan on July 10, 2010, 10:27:58 AM
Quote from: Raux on July 10, 2010, 10:05:37 AM
knew someone that had their seat armor all'd by his wife as a surprise when she cleaned his bike for him. so it COULD happen
He was sure she didn't know what she was doing?    ;D
Title: Re: Tire Break-in
Post by: The Bearded Duc on July 10, 2010, 11:26:20 AM
Quote from: Dan on July 10, 2010, 10:27:58 AM
He was sure she didn't know what she was doing?    ;D


[laugh] [laugh]
Messed up if she did!
Title: Re: Tire Break-in
Post by: dlearl476 on July 10, 2010, 02:35:19 PM
FWIW, I use a prroduct a called RU-Glide to mount my tires.  It's a soap-like substance and it makes kind of a mess.  When I'm done mounting and balancing a tire, I put a little in a bucket with water and wash the wheel and tire, including taking a few runs around the tread with the soap and a new Scotch Brite pad.  Never had an issue.

Like others have previously posted, I believe heat cycles are more important to breaking in a new tire.
Title: Re: Tire Break-in
Post by: Popeye the Sailor on July 10, 2010, 03:47:13 PM
Quote from: Raux on July 10, 2010, 01:34:25 AM
you know some newbie is going to read these, use them, crash, and sue you

Meh-let 'em.
Title: Re: Tire Break-in
Post by: Raux on July 11, 2010, 02:39:18 AM
Quote from: MrIncredible on July 10, 2010, 03:47:13 PM
Meh-let 'em.


how much you got? i'm low on funds :D
Title: Re: Tire Break-in
Post by: Popeye the Sailor on July 11, 2010, 09:29:53 AM
Quote from: Raux on July 11, 2010, 02:39:18 AM
how much you got? i'm low on funds :D

The company pays for my lawyer-we'll tie you up for years  ;D