Ducati Monster Forum

I would like to change my Stock throttle control with one of these !
Does anyone have the domino or the g2?

http://www.domino-group.com/en/catalogue/throttleControls_Detail.aspx?idmaster=2581 (http://www.domino-group.com/en/catalogue/throttleControls_Detail.aspx?idmaster=2581)
http://g2ergo.com/shop/catalog/G2-Tamer-Throttle-Tube-for-Ducati-267.html (http://g2ergo.com/shop/catalog/G2-Tamer-Throttle-Tube-for-Ducati-267.html)

I don't know anything about the domino -- though that link makes me think it's the same as stock (I've been told by G2 that the stock monster throttle is made by domino)

I have the G2 on both my 696 and my 1100 and LOVE it!  No complaints what so ever.  I posted more detailed feelings about it in another thread you can search for.

Do you know if these are linear or progressive throttles and are they larger diameter than stock?

I.e. Do they open your throttle quicker and/or offer fine control over small throttle openings but then more quickly go to full throttle as you twist the grip

If a quicker action with less wrist/elbow movement is what you're after....

http://www.electraeon.com/throttlecam.html (http://www.electraeon.com/throttlecam.html)

My experience is that a wire with almost no freeplay contributes to better throttle control, if that's the issue.

i'm going the electraeon route. waiting for it to arrive.

i think there was always a lot of free play with the throttle on my bike. i know there's supposed to be some, but it does make it sloppy not knowing when the throttle opens on the turn.

I've got one on my bike, actually  ;D

But I thought the electraeon didn't work on the newer models and I'm keeping my eyes open for something for a buddy's HM

Isn't that what the cable adjuster is for at either end of the throttle cable (e.g. engine side with tools, and on the fly at the controls)?

they have 2 versions now but i'll confirm when it arrives.

yes yes point out the obvious

I have the G2 on my KTM SMT. This is exactly what it does. It smoothes power delivery at small throttle openings (essentially requiring more of a twist than stock for the same power), then makes up for it by going to full throttle quicker at large throttle openings...so in the end the total twist to WOT is the same.

I like it a lot on my KTM.

YEs on mine it has a little freeplay, + i like to upgrade the throttle control , I dont like the plastice tube on the oem throttle control. so I am confused on wheater buy the Domino Throttle control with the Electraeon Cam  or just the G2 tube and keep the stock cam! Does it make sense?

If you ask me, also on a S2R 800, my opinion is that the shorter action of the Electraeon is a good mod for our bikes. It's not very dramatic to use full throttle and it makes a lot of sense not having to move the elbow and/or wrist quite that much. On the other hand, on let's say a SuperBike or a S4R, a quick action throttle cam might be too "hot".

Why don't you try the Electraeon first (including tightening the wire) and then decide if you need this or that throttle control? Seems logical to me.

hOW HARD is it to install it? any special tools? now I was reading they have some sort of number like 400Cam and G2 tamer too, what does it mean?

For the first two questions, answers are...... very easy and straight forward - no special tools.
One nut, off and on. Tighten the excess wire.
(I don't know about the third question)

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Bought a G2 and received/installed it on my M695 today - no riding time yet.  Nice little tube.  The mechanical action of twisting the throttle is much improved, but still nowhere near the level of the awesome push/pull setup on my SBK.  The cam portion on the G2 can be easily swapped out for one of several different profiles, which run ~$25 each from G2.  That aspect was not clear to me until I had the part in my hand and dug deeper into the G2 site.  Mine came with the most aggressive profile cam.  The electraeon would be completely redundant if you have the G2 (unless you opted for the stock profile).

My OE assembly is labeled as a Domino on the inside.

G2 also sells Domino throttle assemblies at their site.

Can't wait to spread on some jam with my new tube....

BK

Actually, I take that bolded statement back.  Seems the electraeon has a linear rate with less twist required to reach WOT.  The G2 and the electaeon might make a sweet combo - non-linear quick-turn!

BK

Two thumbs up on the G2 throttle tube!!  [thumbsup] [thumbsup]

The lack of friction, smoothness and precision is a big plus.  Didn't pay a lot of attention to the non-linear cam.  Could not help but notice the butter smooth throttle action.  Easier to crack the throttle open earlier because the brain knows that it can be eased on with absolute precision and timing.  Me like.

If I had to pick nits, the only thing to note is that the tolerance between the bar and the throttle tube is somewhat more apparent than on the OE tube and there is some amount of "chatter" in the hand on bumpy road surfaces.  The actual tolerance is similar (measured it) but it feels greater with the aluminum tube.

Money well spent - should have done it sooner.

BK

Just waiting on mine to arrive!! I'll post some pics and updates

You won't be disappointed.  Earlier you asked about the installation.  It is VERY simple and obvious.  Just two screws and two bolts to get the original housing/tube off.  I used some compressed air to help remove the old grip, which I recycled onto the G2 tube with some safety wire on both ends.  Adjust the cable for the correct (minimal) amount of free play and go ride!

BK

Installed the G2 and Pro Grip 719 grips! Nice! Vibes are not as bad, actually I dare say non-existent  [thumbsup] The throttle control, very nice and smooth, I can just work on feeding in a good drive from stops. I adjusted the play to the 2-4mm range more like 2 1/2 to 3mm, very nice!!

For some unknown reason, G2 just sent me  another tamer in the mail!! I will be calling back to see what is up?!!

Looking at the G2 website, the G2 Throttle Tamer only comes in 400 and the kit with the 3 different cams isn't available for Ducati?  Is this correct? 

So if I understand everything correctly I think the best set up for me would be the G2 stock throttle tube and the Electraeon Face Throttle cam.  Again just talking for me.  I think the stock profile is fine in the beginning. I just wish it was more aggressive at the end.  I want the G2 so that the I have the smoothest grip possible.  It looks as though they [G2] do not make a throttle tube with stock profile for the Ducati.  I sent them an email hoping they can clarify this.

You can use Marine-tex or JB Weld to change the cam profile on the G2.  The throttle tamer comes with a 500 series cam which is even milder on takeoff than the 400 they sell for other bikes.  You can build a little surface and trim to fit.  Easy enough to do. 

G2 got back to me, fast I might add.  They said they can do a custom invoice to do just the tube and a stock profile on the tube. =)

so...I wanted to dig into one of these on my 99 monster. Their application guide says 2000- only. I checked my local Duc dealer and the necessary parts have the same part numbers between 99-2000.

I decided to ring them-great guys by the way. Gary said as long as my system was a single cable system, it would work. I explained that my 99 was a twin cable. Gary explained to me that I needed to order the application for Multistrada as Domino only made 2 different throttles for Ducati as far back as they had record of. He also mentioned that he hadn't tried this type set up on an older bike like mine and if it didn't work, he'd gladly return it for me.

Anyone have any insight on this potential swap or am I gunna be the lab rat?

I just installed the G2 Throttle Tamer with 400CAM onto my Ducati Monster 1100 2009. I can safely say it made a huge difference in fact it was so different it took me a little bit to get used to the bloody thing!! ...I believe someone said its like night and day in this forum or another and I would totally agree with that statement.

I had to play around with the Throttle cable to get it 'just right' but a ride sorted that for me to find that happy medium...

There is a slight extra 'freeplay' than the stock tube hence why it feels very different but power is definitely there when you get on it. In fact it feels much better when feeding the throttle because of the smoothness of the Delrin inserts the G2 uses.

BTW: I noticed some people speaking about the G2 Throttle Tamer and the Electraeon (http://www.electraeon.com/throttlecam.html (http://www.electraeon.com/throttlecam.html)), anyone here actually recommend/tried both or does it make it completely redundant?

The Electraeon will make eveything happen with 75% of the twisting movement.
I put mine on because I thought I moved my arm too much - from 0 to full throttle.

It's not a noob mod, because it requires a steady hand. On my 800 - not so scary.

Combined, might be a nice option.

the Electraeon is a plus for me as it saves my wrist from being in an awkward position at full or 3/4 throttle where I do a lot of Autobahn riding.

but in town... it's touchy, but still smooth.

This is why I want to get the Electraeon.  I hardly ever get to 100% throttle because it takes too much twisting to get there.

That issue must be solved  ;D

hey guys question for anyone with the G2 Throttle Tamer installed.

Did you just adjust the throttle cable from top of throttle cable only as I have done OR did you adjust at the bottom near the throttle itself as well. I measured the 'freeplay' on mine currently at around 6-7mm however I ain't getting any 'jerkyness' I assumed this extra ''freeplay' was caused by the tamer/cam install to alleviate the original stock 'jerkyness' as described in the G2 video.

Just making sure I have mine setup in the best possible way.

I don't have a G2, but 6-7 mm sounds way too much.... Do you really mean you can twist the grip 6 - 7 mm without it resulting in anything? For me, the on/off throttle was gone when I reduced my freeplay to almost (ALMOST!) zero.
My adjustment was done down by the engine.

Ok interesting.

I placed a piece of paper on grip and throttle assembly and measured the distance i could move before it revs. I got to around 6-7mm, interestingly enough I don't get the bite caused by what you would think would be much slack.

I will adjust mine down below then as I cannot adjust any further from the top as it will only allow so much.

I think the top adjuster is meant for minor adjustments, like when the wire stretches a little bit over time.
Screw the top adjuster all the way in before you adjust down by the engine. Then fine adjust on top.

Ok no problems, I will give this a go tonight.

Thanks for your help.

I really dislike anything but the minimum cable freeplay, like 1-2mm or so travel measured at the grip.  Makes a big difference to me.  I would highly encourage you to tighten up the cable with the top adjuster and take it out for a spin.

BK

BK , unfortunately as mentioned above the top adjuster is only for minor adjustments which still leaves me with 6-7mm. So tonight I will adjust the bottom one which is designed to achieve larger adjustments which it seems I require.

Sorry didn't catch that, but as described they both accomplish the same thing, so adjust away and don't settle for anything less than perfection.  If you end up with a high warm idle you've gone just a bit too far.

BK

Cool just got home and sorted it. Much better now, Its about 1-2mm. Thanks for your help guys!

 [thumbsup] [moto]

+10 for an 1100.

Excellent for the twisty stuff, and the track, and flogging it.  A bit touchy in traffic.  But so nice to whack wide open