Ducati Monster Forum

So... I have 5 bikes in the garage... crikeys.... I think when I get the title for CB550... I will probably sell it... bought on a lark... but whatever.... but my bigger issue is the Multi... I have under 2000 miles on it... and I have already put that many on the 999.... I am thinking that all my sport touring grand ideas.... were a load of poo.... should I sell it?? anybody have a good idea on price? KBB says retail at $9500 with higher miles and no hard bags... but I have all three key matched hard bags and frame sliders and really low miles.... poo on a stick...

Calling Dan............ [evil]

Does it have ABS?  I know someone who might want it if it does. 

Oh, and most people's ideas of touring and two up riding fall short in reality.  My wife rode on the Monster twice in the two years I've had it.  Doesn't stop her from using it as a justification for needing new boots.  She treats me well, she gets what she wants whenever I can afford it. ;)

Scott

No abs till the new 1200.... Oh well.

CB550 come with that nifty tattoo certificate too?  ;)

Aww scheisse... the timing is never right...

What kind of timeframe are you looking at?  I'm very interested.  With where I live now, and the fact I'm gonna be even more rural in the next year, the SS needs to find a new home and I need something that can handle 2-up and gravel roads.  I am ordering a new chain & sprockets, installing that, then probably taking it to Daric to get the valves checked & adjusted.  After that... I wasn't gonna ride it much more before putting it on the chopping block.  I'd like to sell it while the weather is still good, because we'll be moving to Timbuktu before the next riding season starts.

I've been looking at the Multi, R1100/1150/1200GS, or a Moto Guzzi Stelvio.  The Multi is my least expensive option (for a low-mileage example, anyway).  I'd love the lower maintenance of shaft drive, but I dunno if I can afford it.  The Multi also handles much better than the others when you get it out on asphalt, and after the 5 miles of gravel road to where Erica and I will be living, it's an awesome twisty highway to ride to work everyday.

Don't fret about last rides Dan.  Get the service stuff done and put it up for sale.  As soon as you sell it you'll be getting something new so no reason to delay.

Scott

Crikeys... Actual mileage is 1364. Now I feel really embarrassed. I really didn't ride it. Dan, and anybody else on here... I would probably sell to at bluebook with all the extras. Craigslist  peeps are going to be asked for around 11k due to mileage and bags... Unless anybody thins I am smoking crack?

Hmm... this sounds familiar...

http://portland.craigslist.org/wsc/mcy/1843425804.html (http://portland.craigslist.org/wsc/mcy/1843425804.html)

 ;)

I'd say "let's arrange it", but it would require waiting until I can sell my SS and my '98 GTI.  I have very little money in hand, maybe $1000, and lots of bills I'm trying to pay (so I can't take out a loan).  Both vehicles are going down the road anyway, but it's a matter of the time to get a couple things done on each and get them out the door.  My goal is to get at least $5k each.  The SS should be worth at least that much, considering what I'm seeing on CL and at MotoCorsa.

If you need to get rid of it soon, especially if someone will pony up the $11,500, go for it.  If nobody buys it before I can get mine sold, I'll take it off your hands.  Don't put your life on hold waiting for this broke kid to scrape together the cash.


EDIT:
Updated mileage...
http://portland.craigslist.org/wsc/mcy/1845163478.html (http://portland.craigslist.org/wsc/mcy/1845163478.html)

Find yourself an unsecured personal loan with no early payoff penalty and the longest term you can. Could get the payment down to 250/month for a 4 year, or less for longer. Fix and sell the VW and the SS. Bam, paid off, and you only had to foot it for a couple months.

Or my favorite, cash advances on high-limit credit cards. They might have an initial finance charge, but, meh. Get back a couple hundred bucks free for cards with reward programs when you take 5k out, then pay it off immediately. Wahaha. You got all the vehicles you want and a house being built. Screw the credit rating for a while. If someone won't finance you for something even though they see you've never missed a payment, it's their loss.

Stocks suck at the moment. Pull it out of the 401k? Money's just money. Work and make more. Just make it happen, Dan. [moto]

Bendy... you are positively evil.  [evil]

I need to go look through my recent credit card offers...

Using some kind of offer as a stopgap while I sell vehicles to pay it back is a very tempting option.

(the unsecured line of credit is off the table... Wells Fargo just told me "no" on that when I wanted to consolidate a couple of debts, and US Bank has only given me a $5500 line that I used to buy the Durango and am still making payments against... doesn't seem to matter to anyone that I have a top-tier credit score and have a good engineer's income)

Paging Ryan...

Random question: what kind of range do you get between fill-ups on the Multi?  I know it has a 5.3-gallon tank, about a gallon more than the 900SS.  I typically go 140-150 miles between fill-ups, and it takes ~3.5 gallons at that point (42-43 mpg).  I've heard the 1100DS is thirsty, but I was wondering how much so.

Really I think around 150 is good bet... but I never have pushed a tank too far...

Holy crap... the reviews I'm finding suggest the 1100DS mill is capable of 50+ mpg:

http://www.montgomerybikers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=56321 (http://www.montgomerybikers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=56321)
(this is a derby of a Motorcyclist comparo between the MTS1100 and the Tiger 1050)

High/Low/Avg according to Motorcyclist was 59/46/50 mpg

With a 5.3 gallon tank, that means 200 miles between fillups with a comfortable margin left over.  [thumbsup]  My commute is getting bumped from 23 miles each way to 35 miles each way, Mom & Dad's house will be 97 miles away, Erica's parents house will be 99 miles away, sooooo... range is important.  In the GS realm, I was looking at new and used Adventure variants, because they have bigger fuel tanks (the R1200GS Adventure has an 8+ gallon tank... it's a 2-wheeled Chevy Suburban).

150 is a bad guesstimate Ryan . . . I seem to recall you telling me you hit !150 before the warning light came on . . .

Craigslist people are silly.

Do tell...

Sooooo... talked with Erica about this, because I wasn't being entirely rational.  ;)

Wifey is really not big on the idea of using a temporary loan.  She'd be more open to it, except we have other payments to make, debts to clear.  She's right, I just needed the reality check.  New sectional couch and washer/dryer on 12-month no-interest plans (that need to get paid off in less than 12 months or we face some pretty gnarly interest).  Plus some nagging credit card debt that is driving me crazy and keeping me awake at night.  I was one of those guys who always paid balances in full, never paid interest.  I was laid off last spring, used the CapitalOne card as my emergency fund (had a really low fixed rate).  Met Erica, and before I had the card paid back off, I was buying her a ring... so that was partly paid with cash, part credit.  In all the wedding planning, I forgot that I needed to buy my own ring, so that was all credit.  Then the honeymoon was partly my tax refund, and part credit.  Plus, when Congress passed that consumer credit act they left a godawful amount of time for the card companies to screw us before it took effect, so CapitalOne responded by jacking my rate from 8.9% fixed to 16.9% variable.  [bang]  Scheisse... that credit balance has got to go away.  I transferred it to a lower-rate US Bank card, but it's still not cheap.

I'm not even gonna go into the student loans that I'm still paying on.  Suffice it to say that they exist, and they're a significant chunk of my budget.

The bike will be sold and the car will be sold... that will pay off the credit card and leave a bit left over.  I will sleep a helluva lot more soundly once that happens.  Then I will be putting money in savings toward a replacement moto.  At that time, with no other revolving debt bothering me, I'd be willing to consider a fixed-rate vehicle loan, if the rate is low enough.

My wife had a valid concern: if I take out this "temporary" loan, but either the bike or the car doesn't sell in short order, I'm going to have that added debt hanging over my head and giving me even more sleepless nights.  I really, really, really hate debt.  Need to get rid of the toxic revolving crap first, because I'll feel a helluva lot better, and will then be in a position to buy a replacement moto with a clear conscience.  I'm not big on having a loan on a toy, but with moving to someplace rent-free next year, I'll be able to pay it off quickly (and it won't be as much of a "toy" when I'm using it to commute regularly).

On the positive side... let's say Ryan sells the Multi and gets his asking price... that's more money in his pocket.  Also, if I can get the vehicles sold, then I'll be in a position to look for a bike this winter and take advantage of any end-of-year deals, or possibly find someone trying to sell in the off-season.  I'd love to have Ryan's ultra-low-mileage example, and I know I want all 3 luggage cases on whatever I buy... I just really need to get my two vehicles sold and get rid of revolving credit first.  If this bike is supposed to happen, it will.  If not... someone else will buy it and Ryan's bank account will be fuller for it.  No worries either way.  :)

Do what you've got to do Dan, but get something.  You can get a CB in decent shape for $1k.  That way at least you can get your fix in when you need it.  Over the past ten years I've had bikes and been without.  So long as I can ride, I don't ever want to be without a bike again.  It's the only thing that takes the edge off a really crumby day, and every day at work lately is one of those.

Scott

I know.  Doing without is gonna suck.  I've kicked around the idea of taking a small part of the proceeds and buying something like a beater dual-sport thumper as an interim bike.  We will see.  I may also use the time to fix the fuel issues in the family Honda CL175.  It's only good to ~55mph on the stock trials tires, but it's 2 wheels and will go places (and it gets some absurd mileage... 75-80 mpg according to Dad).

Or... I can always beg a ride from one of my brothers.  [evil]

Febuary seems to be the month to wander into Motocorsa with a wad of cash

Not just MC, any moto dealer.

Dan, didn't the last borrowing of a bike in your family result in a track bike project candidate?  I'm not sayin', I'm just sayin'.  ;)

Scott

I shouldn't laugh, but...  [laugh]

Now that I think about it, thus far I am the only person in the family to borrow both CBRs without crashing or dropping either of them... knock on wood.

No you should laugh.  It was not at all mean spirited but I almost didn't post that.  Didn't want to hurt any feelings, but I guess I got it right.  :)

Scott

Oh... ya know, if I was desperate to ride... I still have a share in that '05 CBR 600RR trackbike.  It still lacks fairings and an official bracket for the instrument cluster (which is zip-tied in place right now), but otherwise it runs and rides.

I could throw some rudimentary lighting on it, license it, insure it, and ride it.  I wonder how much that would cost?  It's ugly as sin sans fairings, but it's a motorcycle.  Heck, the poor thing needs to see some use anyway.

Dude shorter than chuck wanted it, but wasn't tall enough... Then a couple of scam artists... Who wanted to overpay with a check and then have me pay a moving company to deliver it with cash out of my pocket... Maybe I don't sell it and just ride to Canada and get some real usage out of it.... Geesh

This goes to my whole, "You buy the bike at full price cash and you have one hour to return it for full refund if undamaged and you don't like it" theory.  No test rides, no messing about.  I got no time for your games.  Hope you get some more serious buyers soon.  Or Dan realizes a little debt to sooth the soul is ok ;)

Scott

Crap, sorry to hear about the hassles Ryan.

My wife and I have been seriously tempted by the temporary loan and other ideas... especially as the posted price has dropped.  But... I really, really gotta get rid of this credit card debt first.  It is driving me farking nuts.  With no guarantee about how quickly the SS will be sold, I don't want to end up with $10k in debt still there and a new loan on top of it.  All the trouble getting the Multi sold is not giving me confidence in listing on CL.  Now I'm wondering if I should go ask MotoCorsa how much their consignment fee is, and whether they're willing to take mine (or... if they'd want to just buy it from me).

In other news... I got the chain and sprockets yesterday.  Gonna be doing that, an oil change, and a good cleaning this Saturday.  The 900SS gets listed this weekend.

I still need to order the ABS cable for my '98 GTI, get that replaced, get it cleaned, and get it listed too.  I'd have to talk with Erica, but I might be willing to take out a loan for the Multi as soon as one of them sells, and not wait for both of them to go down the road.  I still have no idea how long it'll take to move either of them, though.

Chatted with motocorsa and they said it should sell easily at ten or ten.five.... Just to be patient.... They had some funny stories and a thrashed salvage multistrada in the used side.

Yeah, from the looking I've done on CL and cycletrader, ten-five is a totally fair price.  There's one yahoo with a red one with 3000 miles and no luggage who wants north of $11k... he's nuts.  I think yours could have gone for $11k to the right buyer since it has all three bags (not cheap parts)... $10.5k is a completely reasonable asking price considering the equipment and absurdly low mileage.

I also saw a used, salvage Multi for $6k.  Not sure I want to mess with that... then again, I am going to be moving out to the boondocks, and using it on an unpaved road regularly.  Maybe a salvage-title bike with a sump guard and some Pelican cases is in order?  (NOTE: that's not a serious question... I'm just pondering out loud)

In all seriousness, if I get vehicles sold before yours goes, I'll buy it.  If it moves before then, especially if you can get more money for it, it's that much better for you.  I'm not worried about it... there are nine hundred zillion options for used bikes.  And... part of me is still wondering if a shaft-drive GS Adventure wouldn't be better for the environment I'm in now, and the one I'm moving to next year.  Or a cheaper Suzuki DL1000 (something I really don't care about dropping on gravel).  Anyway... I'm just gonna go with whatever happens.  However it works out, it'll work out the way it's all supposed to.  [thumbsup]

Todd at corsa was talking about the salvaged CL one... I guess it is in much worse shape than he is advertising... I would stay away from that one... but hey... if you got a mechanics thumb... it could be the right bike... they also had a black salvaged one in the back room at corsa that I guess some dude from Texas bought on CL and flew into town to pick up and then was going to ride it back... when he realized it was too bad of shape to ride back... he hauled it to corsa and they sold him one of their used ones... and now they are going to part out whats left of the crappy one as its unridable... lol.

Ouch... I feel for the guy who bought it with the intent to ride away on it.

Good to know about the other salvage title one.  I wasn't really seriously considering it, but good to know it's not worth even a passing thought.

So Ryan, any legitimate bites on your Multi in the last few days?

Somebody came and looked at it, said he had to think about it as it was more than he wanted to spend. I didn't bite on his ploy and offer a lower asking price though. Hehehe. Somebody else offered me a old jeep Cherokee in trade... Don't know if you consider those serious or not.   ;D

Well... maybe I'll have better luck selling the SS.  If it goes before yours does, we'll see about floating a loan for the remainder instead of waiting on my GTI to sell as well.  Gotta run that idea past my better half, but I'd be down for that.