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I can't believe this isn't up yet, as the GOD is supposed to make his miraculous comeback.

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I sure hope the Germans aren't still all butthurt by the beatdown we gave them in the WC and sabotage Lorenzo's bike. Would't put it past them.   ;)

http://www.allaboutbikes.com/sport-mainmenu-34/motogp/2549-rossi-will-return-for-germany-can-he-catch-lorenzo (http://www.allaboutbikes.com/sport-mainmenu-34/motogp/2549-rossi-will-return-for-germany-can-he-catch-lorenzo)

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so who is going to make/take the bet that Rossi doesn't podium here in Germany?!?!?!

There's no way I would bet against Rossi being leaving us all dumbstruck. I hope he does well and has an exciting battle with Lorenzo, only to come up short in the end for a riveting 2.  ;D

I hope Rossi punts that smug little jerk off the racetrack ;D

I think Rossi rides up front and towards the end of the race falls back of the pace. I wouldn't put it past him to podium, but I doubt he'll win. If he does, then he is truly Superman.

Since Germany is mostly nascar turns, I think he has a shot at a podium if he doesn't fall off the pace due to not being fully fit ( in general, not because of the leg ).

Let's hope he doesn't hurt his leg in the process  ;)

Laguna the week after might be tougher.

(you'll need a motogp subscription)

http://www.motogp.com/en/videos/2010/MotoGP+prepared+for+Rossi+return+in+Germany (http://www.motogp.com/en/videos/2010/MotoGP+prepared+for+Rossi+return+in+Germany)

if you can't see this.. yes, he's using those crutches.  sorta.  he can also stand and walk without them.

and he's going to make a 2011 announcement after Brno.

What version of *walk* was he doing?

Normal or hurts like a sumpregnant dog?

40min remaining in FP1 and rossi is currently 4th fastest.

He ended up 7th...still competitive!
http://www.motogp.com/en/news/2010/pedrosa+fp1+sachsenring (http://www.motogp.com/en/news/2010/pedrosa+fp1+sachsenring)

1 Dani Pedrosa Repsol Honda Honda 1:22.521
2 Casey Stoner Ducati Marlboro Ducati 1:22.795
3 Nicky Hayden Ducati Marlboro Ducati 1:22.983
4 Ben Spies Tech 3 Yamaha Yamaha 1:23.189
5 Marco Simoncelli San Carlo Honda Gresini Honda 1:23.204
6 Jorge Lorenzo Fiat Yamaha Yamaha 1:23.224
7 Valentino Rossi Fiat Yamaha Yamaha 1:23.244
8 Randy De Puniet LCR Honda Honda 1:23.260
9 Marco Melandri San Carlo Honda Gresini Honda 1:23.290
10 Andrea Dovizioso Repsol Honda Honda 1:23.400
11 Mika Kallio Pramac Racing Ducati 1:23.420
12 Aleix Espargaro Pramac Racing Ducati 1:23.430
13 Colin Edwards II Tech 3 Yamaha Yamaha 1:23.440
14 Loris Capirossi Rizla Suzuki Suzuki 1:23.589
15 Hector Barbera Paginas Amarillas Aspar Ducati 1:23.599
16 Alvaro Bautista Rizla Suzuki Suzuki 1:24.020
17 Alex De Angelies Interwetten Honda MotoGP Honda 1:24.101

Lookie at Nicky and The Ben. Although I presume the order of things will change by tomorrow.

The difference between Spies (4th) to Dovi (10th) and Edwards (13th) is not much different than the gap from Spies (4th) to Hayden (3rd).

Four interesting things there:

Pedro is fast.  (he wants to keep his Repsol ride)
Lorenzo is struggling a bit.
Rossi is the GOAT.
Spies on pace at a new track.  

first time here, but it's a tight, ama-like track.

It's good to see DeAngelis back as well.  Hopefully, he can stay away from other riders (and the asphalt).  Next up  . . .  getting Elias back to GP.  I don't know why I feel so bad for those two guys.  They were doing well last year in the standings when it became apparent they were going to lose their rides.  

looks like he has a sprained ankle.


he's always fast here.  and no way will repsol get rid of him =)


not that that's not totally great... but isn't it almost expected at this point?  dude has no problem with never having seen a place before.  somehow.



uhh.  i feel that way for toni, yes.  CrashAngelis is a make the beast with two backsing liability.

Maybe I'm just being nostalgic and have forgotten how disgusted I was with him last year.  I really liked him at the beginning of last season. 

you just liked his helmet.

 [cheeky]

Ok this is just bat sh*t crazy.  I had a close buddy break his leg "worse" than Rossi in the same area and it took him close to a year to be back to normal.  Six weeks later and Rossi is still right there, jesus that guy is amazing.  Personally no matter what happens, I can't wait for sunday.

FP 2
Pos.   Num.   Rider   Nation   Team   Bike   Km/h   Time   Gap 1st/Prev.
1   99   Jorge LORENZO   SPA   Fiat Yamaha Team   Yamaha   279.9   1'22.253   
2   27   Casey STONER   AUS   Ducati Team   Ducati   280.2   1'22.393   0.140 / 0.140
3   46   Valentino ROSSI   ITA   Fiat Yamaha Team   Yamaha   275.2   1'22.686   0.433 / 0.293
4   26   Dani PEDROSA   SPA   Repsol Honda Team   Honda   282.9   1'22.753   0.500 / 0.067
5   14   Randy DE PUNIET   FRA   LCR Honda MotoGP   Honda   276.8   1'22.859   0.606 / 0.106
6   4   Andrea DOVIZIOSO   ITA   Repsol Honda Team   Honda   280.3   1'22.988   0.735 / 0.129
7   11   Ben SPIES   USA   Monster Yamaha Tech 3   Yamaha   275.0   1'23.062   0.809 / 0.074
8   69   Nicky HAYDEN   USA   Ducati Team   Ducati   276.4   1'23.202   0.949 / 0.140
9   40   Hector BARBERA   SPA   Paginas Amarillas Aspar   Ducati   281.3   1'23.262   1.009 / 0.060
10   58   Marco SIMONCELLI   ITA   San Carlo Honda Gresini   Honda   274.6   1'23.392   1.139 / 0.130
11   5   Colin EDWARDS   USA   Monster Yamaha Tech 3   Yamaha   273.8   1'23.395   1.142 / 0.003
12   36   Mika KALLIO   FIN   Pramac Racing Team   Ducati   278.9   1'23.674   1.421 / 0.279
13   19   Alvaro BAUTISTA   SPA   Rizla Suzuki MotoGP   Suzuki   277.3   1'23.703   1.450 / 0.029
14   41   Aleix ESPARGARO   SPA   Pramac Racing Team   Ducati   272.4   1'23.709   1.456 / 0.006
15   33   Marco MELANDRI   ITA   San Carlo Honda Gresini   Honda   280.0   1'23.751   1.498 / 0.042
16   15   Alex DE ANGELIS   RSM   Interwetten Honda MotoGP   Honda   276.5   1'23.839   1.586 / 0.088
17   65   Loris CAPIROSSI   ITA   Rizla Suzuki MotoGP   Suzuki   277.0   1'23.844   1.591 / 0.005

dry session...I guess the rain has held off for now...and looking at the way Nicky fell back in times...I am guessing he is trying to find that front/rear balance again from his commentary about yesterdays sessions...

I guess that's why they call them aliens.

Lorentho on Pole

1 Jorge Lorenzo Fiat Yamaha Yamaha 1:21.817
2 Casey Stoner Ducati Marlboro Ducati 1:21.841
3 Dani Pedrosa Repsol Honda Honda 1:21.948
4 Andrea Dovizioso Repsol Honda Honda 1:22.263
5 Valentino Rossi Fiat Yamaha Yamaha 1:22.395
6 Hector Barbera Paginas Amarillas Aspar Ducati 1:22.454
7 Randy De Puniet LCR Honda Honda 1:22.610
8 Marco Simoncelli San Carlo Honda Gresini Honda 1:22.624
9 Aleix Espargaro Pramac Racing Ducati 1:22.910
10 Marco Melandri San Carlo Honda Gresini Honda 1:22.917
11 Mika Kallio Pramac Racing Ducati 1:22.961
12 Colin Edwards II Tech 3 Yamaha Yamaha 1:23.026
13 Ben Spies Tech 3 Yamaha Yamaha 1:23.028
14 Loris Capirossi Rizla Suzuki Suzuki 1:23.040
15 Nicky Hayden Ducati Marlboro Ducati 1:23.090
16 Alvaro Bautista Rizla Suzuki Suzuki 1:23.193
17 Alex De Angelies Interwetten Honda MotoGP Honda 1:23.515

what a cruddy way to insure your pole position...

"The session was red flagged with 25 minutes remaining as Lorenzo’s M1 started to spill oil, and flames then began to pour out of the side of the Spaniard’s bike as he approached turn one before he managed to pull off the track. Following behind Spies (Monster Yamaha Tech 3) fell in the split oil, as did De Puniet (LCR Honda) and the Frenchman collided with Spies’ stationary bike as he slid off.

De Puniet went for X-rays on his right leg at the Clinica Mobile which confirmed no breaks, and he will be hopeful of taking his seventh spot on the grid..." 

I wonder how many engines Lorenzo has left?

Ahh yes, because it makes so much sense to sacrifice one of your six engines to ensure a pole when you're leading the championship by over two races worth of points. Especially when the riders behind you have absolutely no bearing in the championship. We should think a little before we go accusing someone of pulling a Schumaker. 

Just wondering whether that's going to play into the championship. I really have no idea how many he has left.

sorry desmoq, I can't quote on my bb and I meant my response to be directed at zooom, not you. I believe that he should have two left after this episode

No worries ;D

The board doesn't do so well on mobile devices...either BB or iPhone.

I doubt that anyone seriously thinks a rider would blow an engine (especially when there's a limit) just to secure pole. At least, I didn't read it that way.

Really?  I didn't take what Brian said to be accusatory at all.  Just saying that it was shitty luck for the others to have qualifying get shut down early due to having an engine bleed out all over the track. 

Not a big deal at all guys ;D

This is racing, and shit happens.

yes...to have to red flag a session...especially the pole session sucks...having seen in person what they do...you know the best flying laps were going to be coming in the last 5 minutes..most of the riders seem to do that and it sucks that Jorge's motor let go and spoiled it all...I wasn't accusing him of sabotage at all....

as far as how many motors he has left...I would bet he is probably cracking into his 4th at this point for the race...but who knows...Kropotkin seems to have figured out where you can find that info buried somewhere, but it certainly wasn't made to be easily findable...nobody knows who is using what strategy and how with this whole gambit...I know I have read a few different ways people are supposedly applying their alotments...but, those are kept close to the hip in the garages it seems....

Wonder how many engines Rossi saved by breaking his leg?

Probably safe to assume Rossi was in better shape than you friend before the accident.  ;D

Rossi's leg should have enough titanium hardware in it now that once the soft tissue healed he was ready to go   [moto]

Too bad there isn't a claiming rule in MotoGP ;D

great race for 3rd...  [evil]

holy crap.  :o

That ride by Rossi was amazing. Almost a podium with a broken leg? Incredible.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/85366 (http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/85366)


Rossi:
"It was a great battle with Stoner, congratulations to him. If it happened the other way around he would surely have cried like he did after Laguna Seca [in 2008], but this is racing. I'm happy because he was smiling at the end."

[laugh]

Dammit, now I gotta wait until the afternoon broadcast to see the end . . . that is if they continued into the next show.  That red flag extended the broadcast and cut my recording.


Funny how at the end of the 15th lap someone messed up the placement cards.  That is unless of course Rossi can now shapeshift into the likeness of other riders, which I wouldn't put it past him.

(http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k285/DanteFazio/Picture1-4.png)
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always pad live (race) broadcasts. i give f1 an extra 30 minutes (regulations limit the length of a race to two hours). i'm not sure how i would pad a motogp race since i watch them uninterrupted on motogp.com.


that's a speed thing. didn't see that on the world broadcast.

I don't think I've ever seen Pedrosa smile quite that large. Congrats to him he raced very well.

I was surprised to see Lorenzo be that composed and actually settle for second. Maybe he's growing up?

OMG ROSSI! Hell yeah that was awesome. I can't wait to see him at 100% on a Duc next year.

Any of you recon that Stoner is already making up excuses for next year's Honda?

Fun to watch Stoner and Rossi battle it out for 3rd.   [thumbsup]

So at the current pace, we're going to have about 10 healthy riders on the grid by the end of the season.

Yea I figured it's the Speed HD US broadcast, funny stuff.  Good call on the pad as well, I'll do that next time.

Yep...same thing happened to me. Oh well...they showed it in the 3 o'clock broadcast.

Great race for 3rd!! That was a nice move by Stoner.  [thumbsup] Overall amazing race by Rossi.  [bow_down]


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That was one outstanding return by Vale!!  


Was that really a smile, or just a particularly severe grimace; due to the fact that he was uncomfortable with the way he felt inside.  Almost like Data, "this sensation is peculiar and does not compute"...

Stoner's set up, and final pass was awesome.  [thumbsup]

(http://pix.crash.net/motorsport/360/PA787262.jpg)

Pedrosa seems to be straining an awful lot to carry that thing. Lorenzo is not amused.

Hell yes it was.  Looks like he is finally learning some tactics to his racing.  To bad he's still a douche...


How much you want to bet he had a turtle poking out in his leathers?

After getting over the hole estoril 2006 hayden/pedrosa crash... the guy (pedrosa)is a beast

speaking of Haydens....Roger Lee is gonna ride RDP's Honda after Bautista used him as a speedbump before trying to Dukes of Hazard off his bike....

took me 24 hours but finally watched the whole race... wow.  that was some incredible work by pedro.  fastest on the last lap after pounding out the :22s.  took em 3+ years to get that 800 sorted but i bet someone at HRC can finally stop sleeping in the office.

so i guess valentino's doing ok.  sheesh.  nice work by stoner.  major bummer for RDP, tib/fib and left leg no less.  i don't think he'll be back in 6 weeks.

bring on laguna!

Or like Rossi cried after Elias carved him up. ;)
 
Rossi being the  intelligent fellow he is, was having a cry in an indirect way, with his own inverse whining, I reckon. If he was genuine, he would have said it was just a great pass like the one he put on Stoner at Laguna, but he couldn't help himself coz he's hurtin' from being booted off the podium.

He's a cunning and intelligent whiner, whereas Stoner is more transparent and reactive, probably a factor of their different ages.

...and when you carry 11ty billion world championship titles...

your words sound different. ;)

+1, I was thinking exactly the same thing
Don

estoril, 2006?  strange, his crying sounded like congratulations.

True.
Experience in racing and experience in life.
The GOAT has probably compressed 40 odd years of experiences in his 30 odd.

...it is possible to go very fast... ;)

Moto2: Tony Elias!  [bow_down] [bow_down]

+1....I watched that race last night...aside from the number of bikes at the start vs. how many that finished....Elias was just "The Man"!...I am not sure if his intentions are to press for a GP seat or if he is looking to stay Moto2, but damn you have to know that people are lookin at him from everywhere for sure!