Ducati Monster Forum

Kitchen Sink => No Moto Content => Topic started by: the_Journeyman on July 21, 2010, 06:38:37 AM

Title: Sharing a Printer on a network
Post by: the_Journeyman on July 21, 2010, 06:38:37 AM
Ok, guys, I've got a 4-year degree in Computer Information Systems and I'm STILL having problems sharing a stupid printer...

Machine #1 - Windows Vista (HP Desktop), all sharing options turned ON like Microsoft said they needed to be in their knowledge base.  it is connected to the router via ethernet.  This is also the computer with the Canon iP3600 printer connected via USB.  It is also set up as a network/shared printer. 

Machine #2 - Windows XP (Dell Laptop), not sure of service pack status.  Id DOES have the network protocol installed that allows Vista to discover it properly and put it in the network map.  It is connected to the router via wireless.  Sharing is turned on, and a folder is shared.

Machine #3 - Windows 7 Starter (Gateway Netbook), also connected to router via wireless. Sharing options are turned on too, just like the Vista machine.

All are under the same workgroup for simplicity.  All can access the internet via the router without problems.

Any help?  Thanks,

JM
Title: Re: Sharing a Printer on a network
Post by: derby on July 21, 2010, 07:00:15 AM
start > run > <ip address of machine with printer shared> [enter]
Title: Re: Sharing a Printer on a network
Post by: the_Journeyman on July 21, 2010, 07:06:24 AM
Got "can't find xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx"

JM
Title: Re: Sharing a Printer on a network
Post by: derby on July 21, 2010, 07:13:13 AM
Quote from: the_Journeyman on July 21, 2010, 07:06:24 AM
Got "can't find xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx"

JM

disable the local firewall on the machine with the printer and see if it works...
Title: Re: Sharing a Printer on a network
Post by: the_Journeyman on July 21, 2010, 07:13:35 AM
Update - I can see all computers on the Windows 7 & Vista machine, as well as the rest of the network. (Router showing the XP & 7 machine, then a switch between my machine and the wireless router, even though it's one device).

XP machine can't see anything but itself ~

JM
Title: Re: Sharing a Printer on a network
Post by: the_Journeyman on July 21, 2010, 07:16:13 AM
Disabled firewall, same error message ~


JM
Title: Re: Sharing a Printer on a network
Post by: the_Journeyman on July 21, 2010, 08:25:10 AM

UPDATE - Vista can see the laptop and netbook.  It can access the XP laptop, but not the netbook.

Netbook can map all three, but only shows the Vista machine under the network window.  It can't access the Vista machine though.

XP can see itself and the netbook, but not the Vista machine.

Neither the laptop or the netbook will find the printer.  Firewall is still off.

JM
Title: Re: Sharing a Printer on a network
Post by: derby on July 21, 2010, 08:32:37 AM
some light reading:

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb727037.aspx (http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb727037.aspx)

Computers Running Windows XP Do Not Appear in the Network Map

If a computer that is running Windows XP and does not appear in the Network Map window, download and install an update on the computer running Windows XP from Network Map Does Not Display Computers Running Windows XP. This update installs a Link-Layer Topology Discovery (LLTD) Responder component, which responds to computers running Windows Vista when they are building the Network Map.


http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc749119%28WS.10%29.aspx (http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc749119%28WS.10%29.aspx)

To install the LLTD Responder onto a computer running Windows XP

   1. Download the update appropriate for your version of Windows:

          * If you are running Windows XP with no service pack, with Service Pack 1 (SP1), or with SP2, download the update from here: http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=70582. (http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=70582.)

          * If you are running Windows XP with SP3, download the update from here: http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?linkid=156601. (http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?linkid=156601.)
Title: Re: Sharing a Printer on a network
Post by: the_Journeyman on July 21, 2010, 08:34:49 AM
I've done that, and the XP machine does appear on the Vista's network map.  I need the XP to see the Vista computer now ~

JM
Title: Re: Sharing a Printer on a network
Post by: JEFF_H on July 21, 2010, 09:22:38 AM
I'd drop $40 on an external print server and save the trouble....
Title: Re: Sharing a Printer on a network
Post by: MendoDave on July 21, 2010, 01:14:28 PM
Quote from: JEFF_H on July 21, 2010, 09:22:38 AM
I'd drop $40 on an external print server and save the trouble....

+1 Or just get a network ready printer and plug it in to the router with ethernet.
Title: Re: Sharing a Printer on a network
Post by: ducpainter on July 21, 2010, 03:17:22 PM
Quote from: JEFF_H on July 21, 2010, 09:22:38 AM
I'd drop $40 on an external print server and save the trouble....
I'd get rid of Vista and 7 and just run XP. ;D
Title: Re: Sharing a Printer on a network
Post by: mitt on July 21, 2010, 04:01:21 PM
Quote from: ducpainter on July 21, 2010, 03:17:22 PM
I'd get rid of Vista and 7 and just run XP. ;D

I would do the exact opposite

;D


mitt
Title: Re: Sharing a Printer on a network
Post by: the_Journeyman on July 21, 2010, 04:51:07 PM
Backstory on the router:

Bought & set up by the last guy my wife dated, turns out he was a cheater.  He set it up, my now wife didn't know anything about the setup or what he did.  The username & password she initially used on the router no longer works.

Fast forward to now:

I can access ANY computer set up to share that shows up via wireless.  I can do anything the computer is set to allow, printing, read/edit files whatever the setup is.  All other computers see the switch built into the router, but not my computer that is hard lined to the router and thus behind the switch.  The conspiracy theorist in my wife and I say he set some kind of security protocol into the router setup so she couldn't easy see his computer to help him hide his actions.

JM
Title: Re: Sharing a Printer on a network
Post by: Raux on July 21, 2010, 07:51:57 PM
go to start menu of the computer with the printer
command prompt
type in "ipconfig"

find the IP address

on the other computers
add a network printer
use the network ip address you now have

might need the driver disk on the other computers when installing
Title: Re: Sharing a Printer on a network
Post by: ungeheuer on July 21, 2010, 08:07:20 PM
Raux's suggestion wont work if you're running DHCP on PC #1.

We need more info from the OP. 

Forget printing for a moment.  On PC #1 if you create a shared folder is it accessable from any of the other PCs?

Quote from: the_Journeyman on July 21, 2010, 06:38:37 AM
Machine # .... This is also the computer with the Canon iP3600 printer connected via USB.  It is also set up as a network/shared printer. 

Set up as a network printer, how?  On the PC to which its cabled by USB it should be setup as a local printer and then shared.....

1) Are you running DHCP on any of the workstations? 

2) Go to each PC > comand prompt > type "ipconfig /all"   and play spot the difference.....

3) Vista is a PITA.... piss it off for XP or 7.
Title: Re: Sharing a Printer on a network
Post by: Raux on July 21, 2010, 08:13:39 PM
Quote from: ungeheuer on July 21, 2010, 08:07:20 PM
^^  That wont work if he's running DHCP ... well it might work for a while until ip addy is reasigned....

We need more info from the OP. 

1) Are you running DHCP on any of the workstations? 

2) Go to each PC > comand prompt > type "ipconfig /all"   and play spot the difference.....

then he only needs the computer (hostname) name on the network instead.